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May 12, 2010

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SOUP

CANECHIC BROKE THE NEWS:

First with the news and Go Sharks!

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2010/05/miami-gives-football-coach-randy-shannon-new-four-year-deal/1

Posted by: canechic | May 12, 2010 at 08:01 PM

roachcane77

No excuses for recruits now... no more bashing from other schools saying there's no stability at the U!

Cat 5 Cane

1st, 2nd and 3rd... don't care

Cat 5 Cane

Roach... you dog, ya got me!

zarokon

yessssssssss!! say what you want about coach shannon! but i believe in him! i love the way that he coaches. and i believe he is going to lead miami back to the promise land where we deserve to be. Defense and Offense was vastly better last year than the previous 4 years. J.Harris. and Co. Should be much better! And Bailey and the Defense should be really great!! Thanks Kirby! Now I really cant wait til Sept.11th...Pryor..your going down!

Jersey_Cane

Love it!!! Congrats Randy, your fans at Canespace are believers in what you are doing, I am glad to see your administrators do as well. Go Canes!!!

roachcane77

Just a quick trip to check... and wow... there it was... 0 comments!

From the USA Today article:

"Miami's team also has been recognized for a strong performance in the NCAA Academic Progress Rate (APR), which combines graduation and retention numbers. Under Shannon, the team has been in the top 10% of major college programs."

That is NICE to see in a small article... finally some positive recognition for a change!

Go RANDY, and GO CANES!

canechic

Thanks Soup, CGNC not very happy right now.

Cat 5 Cane

Alright... check that off the list...

CRANK UP THE MUSIC!!!... There's going to be a party tonight and the team will be celebrating... Ohhh Yeah!

Great News for the U, The Team, The Coaches The Fans and Randy!... Whipple and Lovett will be smiling and saying ... Alright, we be good for 4 more... There are allot of good things spinning right now!!!

Sweet!

SOUP

Sweet!

Posted by: Cat5 in The 305 | May 12, 2010 at 09:52 PM

Indeed

Cat 5 Cane

... Hey Soupster... Bet Randy's head must be about size 10 about now... You got any hats you can lend him?

Graduation %'s  are great, but Wins are better

Over/Under 44 Wins the next 4 years ?

Cat 5 Cane

Now it's time to put everything in perspective... BEAT... VT, GT, NC, FSWho, CLEMSON and run the table in the ACC... Pitt and OSU will be icing and leave the little dogs yipping in the rear view mirror!

Time is now!... start the clock!

Cat 5 Cane

I wonder if they count the bowls... I'll take the over!

solarcane

1 under

they deserve a couple 10-2 seasons in 4 years. geezus look at the schedules they sign up. They aren't gonna go undefeated twice

I'll take a 4 years span of
10-2 12-0 10-2 11-1 compared to what I've sat through lately.

Ungar

Finally!

Now on to recruiting in 2011 with that contract in hand, hitting evil enemy coaches over the head with it, when they lied about it never happening.

Urban, this means you!

SOUP

Hey Soupster... Bet Randy's head must be about size 10 about now... You got any hats you can lend him?

Posted by: Cat5 in The 305 | May 12, 2010 at 09:57 PM

A closet FULL of them. LOL

canezilla

bout time!

Wins  are great, but BCS Championship Wins are better !

I wonder if they count the bowls... I'll take the over!

Posted by: Cat5 in The 305 | May 12, 2010 at 10:15 PM

SURE ! Let's think BIG and Positive ... ACC Championship and BCS Bowl Games included. Those are the Games that define these Canes.

44 could be and interesting and attainable number.

SOUP

Over/Under 44 Wins the next 4 years ?

Posted by: Graduation %'s are great, but Wins are better | May 12, 2010 at 10:12 PM

We will NEVER lose another game. EVER.

Unless it's cold.

Or raining.

Or Canesteeler goes to a road game.

Or Jacory throws four INTs.

Or we come out flat in the first half.

Or someone wears the wrong socks, or shirt or shoes to the game.

Or serves the wrong tailgate food.

I'm jus' sayin'...

solarcane

please, please,... please let the bottom line be high enough we don't spend the rest of summer hearing how Randy got robbed because

choose one:

The U is a cheap bastard
Boise State is over rated
Randy is black
Larry Coker

Ungar

Now, as to the REASON I came on, I finally had a chance to review comments, and saw this one that nobody countered, and figured I respond, since it was in response to my comment:


"I don't think Edge had a Hall of Fame career. Very good for 3-4 years, the rest average.

Posted by: Aqua | May 11, 2010 at 10:14 AM"

Well, Aqua, I respectfully disagree.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Football_League_rushing_yards_leaders

12,246 yards
11 year career in a field where 5 years is stretching it
SEVEN thousand yard seasons
80 touchdowns on a passing team
#11 all time in rushing yardage
Ahead of Hall Of Famers Marcus Allen, Thurman Thomas, and Franco Harris
#28 in the rankings, Earl Campbell, who was "very good for 3-4 years", is in the Hall Of Fame.
EVERY eligible RB in his range, down to #20 Ricky Watters, is in the Hall Of Fame.

So, I would be STUNNED if Edge doesn't get into the Hall Of Fame, and on the FIRST BALLOT.

Need I go on?

solarcane

Or Canesteeler goes to a road game.

LMAO! thats cold!!

Ungar

Solar, you are skipping ACC title games and bowl games. We gotta be able to win ONE of those in the next four years, right?

8-)

solarcane

the over unders are usually based on your regular season results

anything you win or lose after that isn't part of the equation
But yea i agree we will win a bunch of that stuff once we beat the Coastal teams down.

Cat 5 Cane

Urban, this means you!... LOL, you better add another 15 more coACHES TO THAT LIST!

NC
VT
GT
CFU
USF
FSU
LSU
ALABAMA
TENN... Kiffin
CLEMSON
WV
SC
OSU
PITT
USC... Kiffin


solarcane

damn Julian looks like a bad sumbich in that picture with Randy, and 404 is about as nice a guy as there is. lol!

Ungar

Or the other team actually plays better that day?

SOUP

Or the other team actually plays better that day?

Posted by: Ungar | May 12, 2010 at 10:44 PM

NOT possible. We are The U! ;-)

SOUP

damn Julian looks like a bad sumbich in that picture with Randy!

Posted by: solarcane | May 12, 2010 at 10:44 PM

In that photo it looks like Randy is the one who begged and was LUCKY to take a pic with 404. Cracks me up everytime!

solarcane

Here is how you know somebody is keeping a real close eye on Miami

The current BetUs Las Vegas odds to win the NC

Take a look at Alabama
Take a look at Boise State
Then look at Miami

We knock Ohio State off we will be single digit odds to win the NC

BetUs 2010 Las Vegas odds to win the NC

Alabama - 25/1
Arizona - 100/1
Arizona State - 150/1
Arkansas - 100/1
Auburn - 100/1
Boise St - 100/1
Boston College - 125/1
BYU - 200/1
California - 60/1
Cincinnati - 90/1
Clemson - 40/1
Colorado - 80/1
Florida - 7/4 Florida State - 20/1
Georgia - 50/1
Georgia Tech - 60/1
Illinois - 65/1
Iowa - 70/1
Kansas - 70/1
Kansas State - 175/1
Kentucky - 125/1
Louisville - 150/1
LSU - 19/1
Maryland - 180/1
Miami Florida - 20/1
Michigan - 80/1
Michigan State - 80/1
Mississippi - 50/1
Missouri - 80/1
Nebraska - 40/1
North Carolina - 35/1
Notre Dame - 30/1
Ohio State - 9/1
Oklahoma - 9/2 Oklahoma State - 60/1
Oregon - 30/1
Oregon State - 200/1
Penn State - 40/1
Pittsburgh - 100/1
Rutgers - 100/1
South Carolina - 80/1
South Florida - 40/1
TCU - 100/1
Tennessee - 70/1
Texas - 8/1
Texas A&M - 150/1
Texas Tech - 60/1
UCLA - 80/1
USC - 7/1
Virginia Tech - 16/1
Wake Forest - 80/1
West Virginia - 50/1
Wisconsin - 60/1

Ungar

Solar, sorry about soaking your keyboard!

Does SOUP really enter the room like that?

solarcane

Here is how you know somebody is keeping a real close eye on Miami

The current BetUs Las Vegas odds to win the NC

Take a look at Alabama
Take a look at Boise State
Then look at Miami

We knock Ohio State off we will be single digit odds to win the NC

BetUs 2010 Las Vegas odds to win the NC

Alabama - 25/1
Arizona - 100/1
Arizona State - 150/1
Arkansas - 100/1
Auburn - 100/1
Boise St - 100/1
Boston College - 125/1
BYU - 200/1
California - 60/1
Cincinnati - 90/1
Clemson - 40/1
Colorado - 80/1
Florida - 7/4 Florida State - 20/1
Georgia - 50/1
Georgia Tech - 60/1
Illinois - 65/1
Iowa - 70/1
Kansas - 70/1
Kansas State - 175/1
Kentucky - 125/1
Louisville - 150/1
LSU - 19/1
Maryland - 180/1
Miami Florida - 20/1
Michigan - 80/1
Michigan State - 80/1
Mississippi - 50/1
Missouri - 80/1
Nebraska - 40/1
North Carolina - 35/1
Notre Dame - 30/1
Ohio State - 9/1
Oklahoma - 9/2 Oklahoma State - 60/1
Oregon - 30/1
Oregon State - 200/1
Penn State - 40/1
Pittsburgh - 100/1
Rutgers - 100/1
South Carolina - 80/1
South Florida - 40/1
TCU - 100/1
Tennessee - 70/1
Texas - 8/1
Texas A&M - 150/1
Texas Tech - 60/1
UCLA - 80/1
USC - 7/1
Virginia Tech - 16/1
Wake Forest - 80/1
West Virginia - 50/1
Wisconsin - 60/1

solarcane

In that photo it looks like Randy is the one who begged and was LUCKY to take a pic with 404. Cracks me up everytime!

your right soup, it looks like Randy is sayin, "wait till Whipple sees who I got my picture with!" LOL!

Cat 5 Cane

the over unders are usually based on your regular season results...Solar


Thanks... Then 44 is too high and needs to drop to around 42 to draw interest!

solarcane

man typepad is doing that deal where the little dots circle for like infinity then unload an armful of stuff you posted three or four minutes ago

solarcane

Maryland - 180/1

that has to really suck considering there are only 120 D1 schools

and I don't think Duke even got odds

the rest of the ACC looks respectable except Wake

Cat 5 Cane

I'm starting to nod off... Later guys!

solarcane

cya cat , was hoping to hook up when you were up here

canesteeler

Solar we are working on changing that road record. It is about damn time the contract has been finalized. RS it is now time to make all of us recognize the fact you are the man to get the job done!

solarcane

canesteeler, I here ya!!
will you make GT or Clemson this year?
I'm up for those two and maybe a stay with soup for a home game.

solarcane

SURE ! Let's think BIG and Positive ... ACC Championship and BCS Bowl Games included. Those are the Games that define these Canes.

then hell ya we could win at least 44

I just puked

We will NEVER lose another game. EVER.

Unless it's cold.

Or raining.

Or Canesteeler goes to a road game.

Or Jacory throws four INTs.

Or we come out flat in the first half.

Or someone wears the wrong socks, or shirt or shoes to the game.

Or serves the wrong tailgate food.

I'm jus' sayin'...

Posted by: SOUP | May 12, 2010 at 10:33 PM

I'm NOT gonna say it .
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or no hail marys

solarcane


or we see Whipple and Randy doing Rock, Paper, Scissors to see who gets to call the timeout

SFCane

Wow. We are a greater favorite to win the NC than Alabama. Awesome.

Also it's about time they gave Shannon an extension.

404

Posted by: Graduation %'s are great, but Wins are better | May 12, 2010 at 10:12 PM

And when you have both, you have the perfect storm!

Let's Go Canes!!!

SOUP

Coach called...he says even though we are ALL celebrating, nothing good happens after midnight.

I'm out. Pannunzio is doing bed checks in 15 minutes...

404

It's great news on the contract. And getting that picture with The Boss was the highlight of last season! Trust me I was trying to play it cool, now I have it blown up and framed in my office!

solarcane

404

You look just like,

" Awright man, get your picture and get back down on the field..."

Look at Randy, it looks just like he's beaming... "Man this is 404 right next to me!"
thats some good stuff right there!

i'm out

SOUP

404...the photo of U and I with the cardboard cut-out of Randy is hilarious. I almost went with that one.

BYW...check out the new photo at the bottom of the article. I think your wife took that one too?

404

Yeah she did, so glad we decided to hit that up. Although next time I'm not going to buy a ticket for an out door public event!

SOUP

Damn, Pannunzio's knockin' on the door, gotta go!

'87 Canes

Excellent news !!!!!!!

Montreal-Cane

3 great news...Shannon's contract

The Flyers win

And Montreal won their
series against the Stanley
cup Champions Pittsburgh...

autumn

getting caught up on the news . . . good blog post, good blogging, solar & others in top form,
good news from the APR list and, of course, fantastic to get shannon's contract out of the way.
Can't SEE he deserved a good contract = cataracts.
from last blog hats off to bg1906 for the list of probable prospects.

i also thought this post of doc ibis was a really good one and i repost it:
. . .

Our strength on defense last year was our D-Line... Aside from the VT and Wisconsin games, we didn't give up many rushing yards... We got up 1590 all season and 3.5/carry is excellent and we gave up 10 rushing TDs all season... 272 and 2 TDs to Va. Tech and then 170 and 2 TDs to Wisconsin... Even with a banged up D-Line, our rushing D was still pretty stout and is probably going to be even better this year... And its good to know that giving up two rushing TDs in one game was an anomaly and only happened twice all season...

We held Ga. Tech, Clemson, Va., and Duke all under 100 yards for the game and only Va. Tech, Wisky, and Oklahoma went over 150 on us... I didn't realize that until just now...

So if I had to say, even with injuries, our D Tackles and Brandon Harris were the strength of our defense!!

Posted by: Doc Ibis | May 12, 2010 at 08:07 PM
. . .

Sean Spence is a Beast!!!

It's about time mothu efffers! now let's lock up the 305 and win one this year.

Cat 5 Cane

Updated: May 12, 2010, 9:08 PM ET
Miami, Shannon agree on new deal.

ESPN...

CORAL GABLES, Fla. -- Randy Shannon gave Miami more wins. He's getting rewarded with more money and more time to get the Hurricanes back into the national championship picture.

Shannon has signed a new four-year contract from his alma mater, the university announced Wednesday night, ending a back-and-forth negotiating process that began more than a year ago. The deal included an undisclosed raise over the approximate $1.2 million Shannon made last season.

"There's no other place I'd rather be than coaching Hurricanes football," Shannon said in a statement.

Shannon told The Associated Press he would have further comment about the new contract on Thursday.

The 2010 season was to be Shannon's last under his current deal, and there was some thought he could wind up taking a chance -- coaching this fall with no guarantees, basically betting that a breakout season this fall could net him a big payday.

In the end, Shannon and Miami found enough common ground to get something done now.

"We are very proud of the positive steps our football program has taken under the leadership of Coach Shannon," Miami athletic director Kirby Hocutt said. "With a commitment to excellence in the classroom, in the community, and in competition, we are well on our way, once again, to the top of the college football world."

The sides agreed in principle last week, and Shannon's new salary is believed to be around the midpoint of coaches in the Atlantic Coast Conference.

Shannon is 21-17 in his three seasons. The Hurricanes are expected to be among the favorites for this year's ACC title.

"Coach Shannon continues to bring together a special group of young men who will position our program for championship success," added Hocutt.

Getting this deal done was a top priority for Hocutt, who raves about Shannon for a number of reasons, perhaps most significantly the way the Hurricanes have excelled academically. There's been few significant off-the-field disciplinary issues since Shannon took over, and the football program ranks among the national leaders in the Academic Progress Rates scores charted by the NCAA.

Earlier Wednesday, Miami was recognized by the NCAA for having a multiyear APR score in the top 10 percent -- making the Hurricanes the only school from an automatic-qualifying BCS league among the teams that finished 2009 in the national rankings to have that distinction.

Under Shannon, the on-field product is getting better, too.

He went 5-7 in 2007, the first season after taking over from Larry Coker, then rebounded to go 7-6 and reach the Emerald Bowl one season later. The Hurricanes easily beat eventual Atlantic Coast Conference champion Georgia Tech last season, plus topped Florida State and Oklahoma in two other tests, then closed at 9-4 after falling to Wisconsin in the Champs Sports Bowl.

There's plenty of pieces in place for more improvement in 2010.

Quarterback Jacory Harris (3,352 yards, 24 TDs) will be back for his second season as a starter, running back Damien Berry could be poised to take over in the backfield and the Hurricanes might have the deepest crop of receivers in the nation, led by senior Leonard Hankerson and speedster Travis Benjamin. Defensively, lineman Allen Bailey is already being talked about as a first-rounder in the 2011 NFL draft, linebacker Colin McCarthy returns for his senior season and fellow linebacker Sean Spence could be among the ACC's best.

Shannon got them all to come to Miami. The way the Hurricanes see it, it's time for that potential to finally start paying off.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


What's this? ESPN playing nice?... They must be positioning themselves for a seat at the dinner table.

SinisterCane

got a link

Cat 5 Cane

For those who missed it....
ESPN's "Football Live Crew" breaking down the Top 25 for 2010.

Dated 5-3-10

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5159726&categoryid=2564308

Ungar

Parakeet singing:

"Oh what a beautiful morning,
Oh what a beautiful day,
Randy has signed a new contract,
Championships are coming our way!"

Cat 5 Cane

560 radio... listen to Joe Rose in the back ground while blogging

http://wqam.com/index.php?page=1

Lots of stuff on Randy

Aqua

Good points Ungar about Edge.

But didn't he miss a season because of injury? Then came back and was average for because he wasn't fully healed? Didn't they use other backs? He's got great # but I don't remember him dominating games like Thurman Thomas, or Marcus Allen. And those guys were great come playoffs.

Like I said, his first couple of season were good but for 2006- to the end of his career he was useless..

I bet you think Vinny Testaverde is a hof'er because he played 20 years has tons of stats too..

Aqua

Speaking of stats and the Hof, look at Bob Greise's #'s and you'll understand what I'm saying about amassing stats.

Candy CAne

FSU is 20 to 1 too!

Ungar

404...the photo of U and I with the cardboard cut-out of Randy is hilarious. I almost went with that one.

BYW...check out the new photo at the bottom of the article. I think your wife took that one too?

Posted by: SOUP | May 12, 2010 at 11:53 PM

Wait, that is 404's wife? She looks just like Donna Shalala!

Pay the man

What's all the cheering about?

oops, thank you for Paying the man

got it!

Ungar

Aqua, thanks for the response. No, I am not expecting VINT in the Hall Of Fame, nor am I just looking at stats, but at the impact on the game. However, stats DO matter in HOF candidacies, as a long and stable body of work is rewarded.

Year Team Games Yards Avg TDs
1999 IND 16 1553 4.2 13
2000 IND 16 1709 4.4 13
2001 IND 6 662 4.4 3
2002 IND 14 989 3.6 2
2003 IND 13 1259 4.1 11
2004 IND 16 1548 4.6 9
2005 IND 15 1506 4.2 13
2006 ARI 16 1159 3.4 6
2007 ARI 16 1222 3.8 7
2008 ARI 13 514 3.9 3
2009 SEA 6 125 2.7 0

Yes, you are right, his stats dropped off after 2006, his 8th season in the league. Coincidentally, that was the same year he moved to Arizona. After all, he went from a playoff team to a 5-11 team, playing from behind so often leads to fewer carries late in the game. But let's compare him to another RB that we can agree was Hall Of Fame material. 7 1000 yard seasons, and a sudden dropoff after 8 years, with an injury in the middle. Their numbers are eerily similar, so should I say Earl-ily similar.

Games Yards Avg TDs
16 1808 4.6 18
16 2105 5.6 14
14 1234 4.2 12
16 1821 4.5 11
3 277 4.6 1
9 1011 4.5 5
16 1659 4.3 14
15 1311 4.2 7
11 677 4.1 4
10 536 3.2 2
16 729 3.9 2
4 91 3.5 0

I can understand how viewing the tail end of a career can make a player look less worthy, but 7 of his first nine years were 1000 yard seasons, and one where he missed two games, he missed 1000 by 11 yards. That is a consistent high performer, a player that opponents had to game plan for, and worthy of the Hall Of Fame.

Aqua

Solid stuff Ungar,

those are big time #'s.

Really you had to go back to Eric Dickerson to find someone to compare him to? Eric Dickerson is like one of 5 guys to rush for over 2gs in a season. Different era, 1000 yd seasons were hard to come by(see dolphins) back then.
5 of Edge's 11 seasons he was under 4 yds per carry, with one season at 4.1. Conversely Eric Dickerson had an eye-popping 5.6 yds per carry one year, with only 2 seasons under 4 yds per carry.

Dickerson did things noone's ever done. Edge, not so much..

Aqua

With all that being said, I do think Edge deserves to considered. But I'd take away from him playing with a hof qb and wr.

You definetly changed the way I percieve Edge.

Windy1

Solar,
The current BetUs Las Vegas odds to win the NC puts two of UM's opponents, VT and OSU, ahead of UM. All other opponents either have worst odds or the same (FSU is tied at 20/1). UM gets VT and FSU at home.

If UM beats OSU, UM will not only instantly find themselves in single digits (10/1 or better), they will instantly be near the top 5 and national elite discussion.

An early OSU win will vault them back in the national elite, and hard work will keep them there. This is the year for Miami and Shannon to make a statement.

Aqua

More comparison:

Edge had 3 seasons avg. 100+ yds per game
Dickerson had 6

Edge 1 first team All-Pro
Dickerson 5

canesteeler

CGNC I never expected the Pens to lay such an egg in a big home game. They were timid from the start and Sids penaltly in the first 10 seconds exemplified the shitty night they had.

canesteeler

Solar I am down for road trips to Pitt and GT this season.

Ungar

It was fun either way, Aqua.

My point still stands regarding Gooden versus James, HOF numbers versus not. I makes me move James ahead of Gooden, even without the off-the-field issues.

Aqua

Yeah, good debate Ungar.

Aqua

After looking at some mock drafts for next year, I see Allen Bailey's name popping up in the mid first-round.

Marcus Robinson and Aldarius Johnson not so much..

Of course, Patrick Peterson is a top-ten pick in most of the mock drafts..

canezilla

Aldarius johnson isnt he going to be a sr next year ?Why would he be in the draft?

BEERicane

Quick: All-time Miami vs UF record.

Six

Beer - in what sport?

Aqua

Berri, off the top of my head I think it's 28-26 UM

canezilla, you do know that juniors are elegible. If they're good enough.

Like Patrick Peterson, he's a junior this season coming up and is rated in the top ten on most draft boards. He was committed to us at one point. I mention him because people on this blog thought Brandon Harris was/is better, lol.

I mentioned Marcus Robinson and aldarius because there use to be a bet on who goes higher in the 1st rd.

Six

If it's football, Miami holds a 28-26 advantage ... with a 3-1 record against the Crocs from 2000-present

macjones de Albuquerque

It's about bloody fU#kin' time!!!

Now, all the prospecitve Hurricane recruits can feel real comfy knowing that Coach Shannon will be around for four more years!

Can U'all Cane fandom dig it. No. Well, I didn't think so! LOL

CGNC

How about them flyers boy.. and the penguins girl... im sorry they lost cg cant win em all

Posted by: PhillyCane | May 12, 2010 at 10:51 PM

LOL Philly - I am pulling for your Flyers - much respect for them to be down 3 games and come back. Plus I would like to see Hartnell get ahold of Cammy and Hammy from the Habs

BEERicane

Thank you. Football of course... Email debate with some friends going back and forth. One of them asked.

Windy1

Aqua,
Brandon Harris is good, and I would take him over Joe Haden any day. It was a pleasure to watch Haden run a 4.7 at the combine after Urban Liar bragged so much about Haden's speed. Brandon Harris on the other hand has true Hurricane speed and should run a 4.4 or better.

Patrick Peterson (Johnson), however, is the best CB I have seen at the college level in quite a long time. Although I don't like him going to LSU, Peterson is truly a top 10 pick if he plays like he did last year.

I think it is a testament to how good that 2008 class in South Florida was.

Brandon Harris, however, has a far better chance of winning conference and national champtionships before he graduates than Peterson

CGNC

Canesteeler - yeah well we saw what part of their regular season looked like. I think Dan was outcoached by Jacques. Same with the Caps. I don't think the Habs are the better team even though they won in 7. Two long back to back Finals runs takes a toll, plus the Olympics. There just wasn't enough gas in the tank. And Fleury had one of his "bad game" nights to boot. They will be rested and ready for next year. And I won't have to listen to that commentator on VS anymore so that's a plus :-D

Canechic - no, not sad - they had two back to back runs and won the Cup last year. This team was tired and it showed midway through the season. This series was just more of the same

orange 'n green in the vein

I hate the Flyers, if they become the third team to rise from the 0-3 deficit, I'll puke. Why is everybody talking about '93 in Montreal when really, it's more flashbacks of '89 with a rookie Roy out of nowhere? Not enough overtime wins for that comparison?

GM Ompa Loompa won't be able to screw up the East contender too bad, either way, but somehow won't be able to secure the Blackhawks out of the west.

pb

MRob, Aldarius, Benjamin, Byrd and B. Harris will be juniors this season.

orange 'n green in the vein

CGNC, Pittsburgh got lazy, they never raised their level of play to match their opponents best shot every night. I thought, like they obviously did, that they would be able to turn the switch on in the playoffs and keep it there, never realizing that if you have to flip a switch to defend your title, you've already ceded it away to your hungrier chasers. I'm really confused by Crosby's season too, in all likely hood this makes him a better leader in the long run but I expected more out of him in the post-season.

Six

One thing to remember about Edge is, the Colts were willing to say adios to Marshall Faulk by trading him to the Rams and take Edge in the draft ... that's pretty significant

Another thing to look at as well - rushing for a 1,000 yards isn't as hard as it used to be, like Aqua said

The new bar to be set should be around 1,300 a season

Or, how about with teams very slowly starting to go with dual or triple backs to carry the workload - then would it diminish what a certain runner does, if he doesn't reach the 1,000 mark, if he's having to share his carries with another guy (or sometimes two others - like Dallas does)

Is it going to hurt a RBs chance of getting into the HOF, if he's in a system where they incorporate mainly 2 backs to help with carries - b/c he might have diminished numbers?

Look at the rushers from this past year in the NFL

Fred Jackson had over 1,000 yards. Fred .. Jackson

Michael Turner had 871 yards - in only 11 games

Matt Forte had 929 yards - in 16 games, with 80 more carries than Turner ... but yet, Turner still only had 58 less yards rushing in 5 less games.

Did Cutler and the Bears throw more than Matty Ice and the Falcons? Matty Ice missed 2 games and had around 100 less attempts than Cutler - but, Turner still put up those numbers as well, missing 5 games

Someone is going to benefit from having a good QB and WR/TE, and have that edge over someone who has a mediocre QB and WR/TE as well

Jamaal Charles is a perfect example. That cat carried his team on his back, and he wasn't even the starter the entire year. He had a less than average QB, with garbage WRs and TE .... but he still put up 1,120 yards on 190 carries

He had the least amount of carries of anyone that rushed for over 1,000 yards, by 26 less than the next lowest guy in the carries department ..... and even that guy shared carries with someone on his team - they both ran for over 1,000 yards

DeAngelo Williams (1,117) and Johnathan Stewart (1,133) ... those two guys from Cackalacka pulled off something special

I'd be very surprised if they could do that again ... esp. with Delhomme gone and Matt Moore or Jimmy Clausen behind center. At least with Delhomme, nobody knew what the hell he was going to do - well, you could probably bet he was going to throw an INT


Six

CGNC - the trunk monkey might be unleashed

A Pens fan rooting for the Flyers? Craziness


Six

UMike - I was just looking at that whole bracket yesterday and laughing at the very first matchup the Canes had

#2 Miami vs. #15 Oklahoma State

Haha

I hosted a radio show yesterday on the ESPN station here, and right before I went on the air, the executive producer and I were looking at that whole Pipeline bracket and saying that if the Canes don't win it all - it will be very very surprising.

USC did put out some very good players into the NFL, absolute Hall of Famers - and I would expect the final 2 to be Miami and USC

But of course, Miami has to win. Not b/c I'm a die hard Canes fan, but that's just reality

DZ8

Solar I am down for road trips to Pitt and GT this season.

Posted by: canesteeler | May 13, 2010 at 11:30 AM

Pitt is out-of-conference so OK... but are U sure about the GT game?

j/k

CGNC

Six - LOL I have not experienced a game live with Flyers fans so I am ok with that. I actually think they are fun to watch as long as they are not smashing your own team in the face. Its just Philly hockey.


OGV I don't know about lazy. They started off the season with their hair on fire, suffered some injuries (Malkin and Gonch) and they never really got back to that. Their trades didn't pan out either - Poni went out and looked like he was on a public session and Leopold took a hard concussion in the Ottawa series. They couldn't beat the Devils all season - why? because they didn't adjust to the trap. Same thing in this series. More than anything it was sloppy defense and not being able to adjust.

CGNC

Oh and Montreal: congratulations to you. Don't want to forget good manners here :-D

CGNC

Oh and Six - that's who the Flyers are: a team of trunk monkeys! Had to!

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