BankUnited CanesFest is back again, which means exactly what you all have been waiting for: The 2011 college football season is right around the corner.
This year's BankUnited CanesFest will be bigger and better than ever and is going back to its roots on campus at the University of Miami from 3-6 p.m. on Saturday, August 27.
You will not want to miss this exciting event. One lucky fan will be selected to drive home in the completely customized CaneMobile pictured below:
Uh, OK...minor correction: nobody is going to win the awesome Canemobile but most fans will go home with some other really cool stuff like mini-footballs, pom-poms, posters and all kind of other orange and green goodies.
Miami Hurricane fans will enjoy the 2011 fan fest with an afternoon full of family fun. Oh and I almost forgot to mention that there will be FREE BEER for everybody who attends!
What's that? No free beer? I should have known that it was too good to be true! Oh well, we recommend that you go anyway in spite of the absence of adult beverages.
Seriously though, family fun activities will include several interactive games with student-athletes, the ever popular inflatables, tours of UM athletic facilities and a Q&A session with the Hurricane coaches.
A a special incentive to get fans to attend this year's event the first 10 fans that show up will also get to take home a Miami Hurricanes cheerleader!
OK, I admit we were just kidding about that last little part there about the cheerleaders. We just wanted to make sure you were paying attention. The rest of the information is 100% la verdad.
Except for winning the CaneMobile. Yeah, that and the free beer of course.
And the most loyal Canes fans - season ticket holders - will receive EXCLUSIVE ACCESS to a football autograph and photograph session from 4:00-6:00 p.m. in the Knight Center.
UM Alumni and current Hurricane Club members are all encouraged to attend. As a special incentive they will have first shot at sinking UM President Donna Shalala in the popular "dunk tank" activity.
We keed, we keed!
But I bet that activity would be a big hit at an event like this, don't U?
Now for the real facts on the event on the UM campus on August 27, 2011:
General Information:
Date: Saturday, August 27
Time: 3:00 – 6:00 p.m.
Admission: Open to the public free of charge
Location: Hecht Athletic Center, Knight Center, Greentree Field and more
Featured Events:
3 p.m. – Doors open
3 -6 p.m. – Interactive sports experiences with Canes teams
4- 6 p.m. - Season Ticket Holder Autograph & Photo Session
First again! Was first before the bowl game earlier this year, but that didn't really count, did it. Keep up the great work everybody. I love this site!
Posted by: montanacane | July 31, 2011 at 06:45 AM
Montana...early bird gets the FIRST! If you want a new 2011 version Canespace T-shirt, email me your shirt size and mailing addy to:
canespace86@aol.com
Posted by: 86Cane | July 31, 2011 at 06:48 AM
It is early out here. What am I thinking? Thanks and will be in touch!
Posted by: montanacane | July 31, 2011 at 06:53 AM
Nice
Posted by: 2002nemo | July 31, 2011 at 08:13 AM
Love my Canespace T-shirt!!! People here in Greenville, SC ask me about it all the time!!
Go Canes!
Posted by: Bad Bart | July 31, 2011 at 08:22 AM
My Canespace shirt is awesome! Thanks
Posted by: Randall McDade | July 31, 2011 at 10:01 AM
Papa Cane - Kicker Situation: Freshman Matt Goudis will compete against RS junior Jake Wieclaw for the starting spot. Don't be shocked if Goudis wins.
Miami Hurricanes Football's Own Amazing Race - These exercises truly build team chemistry; great stuff: ow.ly/5Rrcf
Posted by: OhioCane | July 31, 2011 at 10:36 AM
Elliot,
Ed Reed & company ain't coming back, let me know if u need more clarification bout dat! Oh yeah, didn't someone post a quote from Vilma earlier this week in which he even said 'Enuff about the past, time 2 move on 2 the future'.?
Yeah it is time to move to the future but in the meantime I like to reminisce. Call me an old soul if you will. That is why I listen to music from the late 90's. Some of the best alternative rock and rap artists came out during this time. What's wrong with taking a trip down memory lane every once in a while and watching that Miami and Nebraska NC game? No CANE team will ever touch the 2001 team.
Posted by: elliott | July 31, 2011 at 10:50 AM
Sean Spence and Heather Spinach
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Posted by: solarcane | July 31, 2011 at 10:58 AM
No CANE team will ever touch the 2001 team.
elliot I remember
We said that exact same thing about the 1987 Cane team.
Hopefully somewhere down the road there will be another shock the world Canes team that will be the latest best of all time.
Posted by: solarcane | July 31, 2011 at 11:34 AM
1987...
how the heck do you get to schedule your final 6 games in a row at home in the Orange bowl?
We need that guy to make our schedules up again
Posted by: solarcane | July 31, 2011 at 11:37 AM
Solar - call ESPN they control the schedules now!!!
Posted by: canechic | July 31, 2011 at 11:39 AM
Love my Canespace T-shirt!!! People here in Greenville, SC ask me about it all the time
Posted by: Bad Bart | July 31, 2011 at 08:22 AM
My Canespace shirt is awesome! Thanks
Posted by: Randall McDade | July 31, 2011 at 10:01 AM
Welcome x 2. Glad U all like your 2011 Canespace shirts. U know we just do what we do. And we do it well!
Posted by: 86Cane | July 31, 2011 at 11:46 AM
canechic,
I hear ya.
That was nuts back then, the farthest we went was like to Arkansas.
I think 1987 was also the year Miami and FSU put all those guys into the NFL in one bunch around 40 I think.
Posted by: solarcane | July 31, 2011 at 11:47 AM
Yes solar football has changed so much since those days. The ACC thingy just stinks but I know it had to be done in order to keep up with other teams in the money department.
Money rules football! Football does not rule football!
Posted by: canechic | July 31, 2011 at 11:50 AM
If we can stay healthy this year and have a dominant d line I see no reason why we can not go 10-2. But the keyword here is "healthy" and unfortunately I do not see this happening. 8-4 is starting look right with a win in a bowl game finally. I believe next year we should have everything in place to make a run at a NC. When do U guys think we will contend for an ACC title and maybe a NC? I do not see it happening this year but next year with the recruiting and the QB's we have coming in I feel rather confident about an ACC title. Although it appears FSU it light years ahead of us right now in terms of defense.
Posted by: elliott | July 31, 2011 at 01:36 PM
it=is
Posted by: elliott | July 31, 2011 at 01:37 PM
And whats up with the DT situation? I see FSU has like 6 locked up for next year and we can not get one? WTF?
Posted by: elliott | July 31, 2011 at 01:37 PM
When do U guys think we will contend for an ACC title and maybe a NC? I do not see it happening this year but next year with the recruiting and the QB's we have coming in I feel rather confident about an ACC title.
Posted by: elliott | July 31, 2011 at 01:36 PM
elliott...actually IF it doesn't happen this year with a senior/junior loaded squad then it will be at least two more years like 2013 (ACC) or 2014 (BCS).
But I'm good with that as long as we play HARD and improve each year. But who knows we could actually go 10-2 this year and 8-4 next year before it ALL comes together for Golden and his crew of coaches and players.
I guess Al gets fours years like Randy did to show what he's got?
Posted by: SOUP | July 31, 2011 at 02:18 PM
elliott...actually IF it doesn't happen this year with a senior/junior loaded squad then it will be at least two more years like 2013 (ACC) or 2014 (BCS).
Posted by: SOUP | July 31, 2011 at 02:18 PM
On the one hand, we lost some pretty good players in Harris, Bailey, and Hankerson. Being thin at DT and CB is generally a Very Bad Thing, especially when we only have one truly proven LB (Spence).
On the other hand, we'll have a coach who believes in explaining to his players what he wants them to do, rather than having them guess and getting mad at them for getting it wrong. That's probably worth an extra few touchdowns a year.
Posted by: dj moonbat | July 31, 2011 at 02:32 PM
When do U guys think we will contend for an ACC title and maybe a NC? I do not see it happening this year but next year with the recruiting and the QB's we have coming in I feel rather confident about an ACC title.
Posted by: elliott | July 31, 2011 at 01:36 PM
elliott...actually IF it doesn't happen this year with a senior/junior loaded squad then it will be at least two more years like 2013 (ACC) or 2014 (BCS).
Posted by: SOUP | July 31, 2011 at 02:18 PM
I think a team has to start actually playing in big bowl games and winning them before you can predict a BCS championship. I don't understand this mentality of "we win the Acc title one year and the BCS the next." Get real.
Bottom Line: we are nowhere near being contenders. Let's focus on making it to a bowl game and actually winning.
The DLine situation is a problem, a REAL BIG F-ING problem. Bad DLine + bad decision making QBs = mediocre at best.
Posted by: SIMON CITY ROYALS 7})0 (formerly mike james for heisman) | July 31, 2011 at 02:34 PM
The DLine situation is a problem, a REAL BIG F-ING problem. Bad DLine + bad decision making QBs = mediocre at best.
Posted by: SIMON CITY ROYALS 7})0 (formerly mike james for heisman) | July 31, 2011 at 02:34 PM
I think we have a DT problem. The situation at DE isn't nearly so bad. Vernon, Ojomo and M-Rob are all good, and Andrew Smith is OK.
Posted by: dj moonbat | July 31, 2011 at 02:41 PM
Bottom Line: we are nowhere near being contenders. Let's focus on making it to a bowl game and actually winning.
Posted by: SIMON CITY ROYALS 7})0 (formerly mike james for heisman) | July 31, 2011 at 02:34 PM
Fair enough. Do me a favor, email me ASAP at:
canespace86@aol.com
I have a question and an assignment for you.
Posted by: SOUP | July 31, 2011 at 02:44 PM
Forston has Got To step up and be the monster he was supposed to be. Regis can be pretty solid if Forston is in there next to him tearing things up.
I have no idea whether any of these other DTs on the roster are ever going to amount to anything.
Posted by: dj moonbat | July 31, 2011 at 02:45 PM
Watch it elliot!! Say sumthin bout fsu & u get attacked by the TROLL PATROL! :(
Posted by: 4-Real | July 31, 2011 at 02:52 PM
2012 DT in south florida and where they are commited to:
Imarjaye Albury (Miami Northwestern) West Virginia
Teko Powell (Miami Norland) not committed but has eliminated Miami
Lamar Bynum (Miami Coral Reef) not commit. but eliminated Miami
Sheldon Lewison (Seffner Armwood) Wake Forest
Jordan Hinojosa (Miami Central) Minnesota
Dalvon Stuckey (Walton) FSU
Dante Phillips (Venice) UF
Mike Minns (Dwyer) no commit. but has eliminated Miami
Posted by: SIMON CITY ROYALS 7})0 (formerly mike james for heisman) | July 31, 2011 at 02:57 PM
and it definitely hurts when Elkino Watson, an awesome DT from Booker T. Washington, passes on UM to go to USF. I mean WTF!!!!!!?????????
Posted by: SIMON CITY ROYALS 7})0 (formerly mike james for heisman) | July 31, 2011 at 02:44 PM
I have to think a lot of these guys are guys who wouldn't make the cut academically.
Posted by: dj moonbat | July 31, 2011 at 03:01 PM
Watch it elliot!! Say sumthin bout fsu & u get attacked by the TROLL PATROL! :(
Posted by: 4-Real | July 31, 2011 at 02:52 PM
Don't forget I defended U dude. LOL
Posted by: SOUP | July 31, 2011 at 03:04 PM
Bottom Line: we are nowhere near being contenders. Let's focus on making it to a bowl game and actually winning.
Posted by: SIMON CITY ROYALS 7})0 (formerly mike james for heisman) | July 31, 2011 at 02:34 PM
Fair enough. Do me a favor, email me ASAP at:
canespace86@aol.com
I have a question and an assignment for you.
Posted by: SOUP | July 31, 2011 at 02:44 PM
what is your question?
I am not interested in any assignments
Posted by: SIMON CITY ROYALS 7})0 (formerly mike james for heisman) | July 31, 2011 at 03:24 PM
U mean 2 tell me that outta all the high school defensive tackles around this country not 1 of em can afford 2 buy a UM scholly 4 $55!! Lol
Posted by: 4-Real | July 31, 2011 at 03:29 PM
Win a bowl first!!!! Simon city hits the nail on the head! I have no idea what makes fans, other than by sheer want and hope, believe we win the ACC? It makes me crazy when I hear this notion. Remember the canes were in the Big East and have never, ever played a conference championship, let alone win one! Baby steps folks! Mentally this team is still to weak!
Posted by: canechic | July 31, 2011 at 03:30 PM
Simon City...don't give up hope just yet! The top 3 DTs for 2012 on Scout.com ALL have UM on their list of schools of interest:
1. Quay Evans, DT
Morton, MS
Morton HS
Height:6-2 Weight:318
2. Jarron Jones, DT
Rochester, NY
Aquinas Institute-Rochester
Height:6-5 Weight:290
3. Eddie Goldman, DT
Washington, DC
Edison-Friendship Public Charter School
Height:6-3 Weight:290.
Posted by: SOUP | July 31, 2011 at 03:32 PM
Talking about next year and camp for this one hasn't even opened yet? Inmates are taking over here. Look, if Morris wins the job outright and shows he's got what it takes to make the jump from marginal prospect to major college QB, then maybe 2012 will be a big year. If Harris wins the job and Williams wins the job in 2012, we're back to square one again because Williams has to show he can handle big time college football well first.
As for the DT's, I'm just resigning myself to the fact the 3-4 is on its way and there's nothing any of us can do to stop the Nitany Lion crew from staying in the 4-3 so we're only going to need a starter and an extra decent backup on the roster at any given time. Although with option team 1 and option team 2 in the division they might be better served going even farther back in our history (4-Real should stop reading now) and digging out Schnell's old 5-2. Hey, it worked against Nebraska's supposed greatest team ever fielded (and enhanced by steroids), it should rip up the Technical schools and their far inferior modern versions.
Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | July 31, 2011 at 03:51 PM
As for the DT's, I'm just resigning myself to the fact the 3-4 is on its way and there's nothing any of us can do to stop the Nitany Lion crew from staying in the 4-3 so we're only going to need a starter and an extra decent backup on the roster at any given time.
Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | July 31, 2011 at 03:51 PM
This may be a reason WHY we're not getting many big-time DT recruits yet. They may want to see whether UM is only going to be fielding one DT, cutting the available playing time in half at the DT slot.
Posted by: dj moonbat | July 31, 2011 at 04:10 PM
If Harris wins the job and Williams wins the job in 2012, we're back to square one again because Williams has to show he can handle big time college football well first.
Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | July 31, 2011 at 03:51 PM
Who's this Williams guy of whom you speak?
Posted by: dj moonbat | July 31, 2011 at 04:13 PM
GARY FERMAN FROM CANESPORT JUST TOLD ME THAT MIAMI HAS NOT AND CURRENTLY IS NOT RECRUITING ANY OF THE PLAYERS ON THIS LIST:
2012 DT in south florida and where they are commited to:
Imarjaye Albury (Miami Northwestern) West Virginia
Teko Powell (Miami Norland) not committed but has eliminated Miami
Lamar Bynum (Miami Coral Reef) not commit. but eliminated Miami
Sheldon Lewison (Seffner Armwood) Wake Forest
Jordan Hinojosa (Miami Central) Minnesota
Dalvon Stuckey (Walton) FSU
Dante Phillips (Venice) UF
Mike Minns (Dwyer) no commit. but has eliminated Miami
GOODBYE SIMON CITY TROLL, GOODBYE...
Posted by: SOUP | July 31, 2011 at 04:19 PM
moonbat, Ryan Williams, QB transfer from Memphis who is sitting out this year.
Teko Powell; any relation to Tydreke (sp I think?) Powell we were in on for a little while a few years ago that ended up at UNC?
Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | July 31, 2011 at 04:25 PM
moonbat, Ryan Williams, QB transfer from Memphis who is sitting out this year.
Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | July 31, 2011 at 04:25 PM
Oh, yeah; I forgot about that guy. And he'll be competing against (probably) a couple of redshirt freshmen.
Posted by: dj moonbat | July 31, 2011 at 04:28 PM
"I am not interested in any assignments"
Wonder what Canespace could be like if everybody DID contribute one assignment a year?
Ohiocane came up big this year
Native Cane the year before
Who'll be the next in line?
The Kinks
Posted by: solarcane | July 31, 2011 at 05:02 PM
I think our DL will be a strength this year...We are thin at DT, but the talent at the top with Forston and Regis is strong. I think a few True freshman will contribute. Hopefully we don't have any serious injuries at DT.
Posted by: CANED | July 31, 2011 at 06:53 PM
By the way I am so glad that canesfest will be on campus....big disconnect with cane fans and the Miami campus! The campus really looks great these days and more fans need to see all the upgrades! Not sure where everyone will park though?
Posted by: canechic | July 31, 2011 at 07:07 PM
The University of Miami Athletics Ticket Office will place single game football tickets on sale on Monday, August 1 at 10 a.m.
Fans can purchase tickets online through HurricaneSports.com, by calling 1-800-GoCanes or by visiting the Hurricane Ticket Office at 5821 San Amaro Drive in Coral Gables (Google Map).
Sales are anticipated to be brisk, especially for the home opener against Big Ten powerhouse Ohio State.
Tickets will be sold on a first-come, first-served basis and are subject to availability.
Single game ticket prices begin at $19 for all games, except Ohio State, which starts at $40.
The Canes kick off the 2011 season on the road at Maryland on Labor Day (Sept. 5). UM fans that don't make the trip can watch the game live on ESPN and ESPN HD at 8 p.m. Eastern. The Golden era will make its first appearance at Sun Life Stadium on Sept. 17 when the Hurricanes and Buckeyes renew their rivalry on national television at either 7:30 or 8 p.m.
Chris Freet
Associate AD for Communications | University of Miami Athletics
Posted by: SOUP | July 31, 2011 at 07:39 PM
WURD ON DA SKREET IZ...
1. TE #46 did 16 reps at 225 which is impressive for a RS Freshman.
2. McGee might start the season and JoJo should get the other spot but Finnie is the man. Just a question of Freshman mistakes and when the coaches feel he's ready for the green light.
Posted by: SOUP | July 31, 2011 at 07:54 PM
What's the pros/cons between 4-3 and 3-4 scheme?
Posted by: Brevardcane | July 31, 2011 at 08:33 PM
What's the pros/cons between 4-3 and 3-4 scheme?
Posted by: Brevardcane | July 31, 2011 at 08:33 PM
Well, it kind of depends on what kind of 4-3, and what kind of 3-4.
The 3-4 has the advantage that (if you've got relatively mobile outside linebackers) you can make it very hard for an offense to figure out who's dropping into coverage and who will be rushing the QB or stopping the run. As such, I think the 3-4 lends itself to the various zone-blitzing schemes that are so popular for getting into QBs' heads.
Because you only have one DT in a 3-4, that guy's got to be BIG, so he can plug the middle enough that he can cause the center AND a guard to think about what he's up to. Also, the DEs tend to be 'tweeners, who could maybe play DT if they were in a 4-3. You definitely could not play, say, Marcus Robinson as a DE in a 3-4.
The 4-3 is blander, but in my opinion does better against certain types of run-centric offenses, and especially the option. You're not going to have as much luck dropping your DEs in a 4-3 into coverage as you did with your OLBs in a 3-4, so unless you've got some very special athletes, you lose some deception. But you gain a little something back in terms of the sheer mass that can be brought to bear against the OL.
Posted by: dj moonbat | July 31, 2011 at 08:55 PM
Happy Shark Week everyone! It starts now. Best week of tv of the year! Except when the Canes are playing, of course.
Posted by: OhioCane | July 31, 2011 at 09:07 PM
I agree with Soup, This year will be good, next year we will take a hit in the W/L column and then 2013 we should have a shot at ACC championship
Posted by: DrewZ2 | July 31, 2011 at 09:16 PM
3-4 pros: you can disguise where your blitzes are coming from a little easier/it's easier to find LB's at the college level than it is to find serviceable DT's in recruiting due to the fact that there aren't a lot of 6-2 or taller 300 lbs or bigger 18 year olds who can move and you can find 6-0 or around there and 220 lbs or bigger freshman recruits more readily in the general population. Negatives: if somebody wants to load up a 2TE set with a tackle as a TE, get ready to get steamrolled all day long unless Vince Wilfork Jr. is manning the nose of the 3 and you've got some LB's who can shed those blocks in an individual matchup that won't favor them if they get the lineman's hands laid on them.
4-3 positives: you can generate a lot more pressure just from your front four if necessary leaving a lot more coverage options down the field without having to blitz and not giving the QB all day to work with in the pocket. Negatives: You want 4 DT's ideally at least you can rotate in all game since those big eaters get worn down quicker than others and injuries can leave the middle of your run defense severely damaged as the season wears on. Trying to stack your roster with four serviceable unusually large human beings who can run shockingly fast for their size every year is the hardest thing to do in college football recruiting due to the rarity of the human specimen you're trying to get to sign on the dotted line.
Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | July 31, 2011 at 09:28 PM
What's the pros/cons between 4-3 and 3-4 scheme?
Posted by: Brevardcane | July 31, 2011 at 08:33 PM
When it comes to cheerleader formations I always prefer the 3-4 but when it comes to football defensive formations I prefer the 4-3.
But hey that's just me.
Posted by: SOUP | July 31, 2011 at 09:42 PM
Trying to stack your roster with four serviceable unusually large human beings who can run shockingly fast for their size every year is the hardest thing to do in college football recruiting due to the rarity of the human specimen you're trying to get to sign on the dotted line.
Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | July 31, 2011 at 09:28 PM
That is EXACTLY what Gary Ferman told me via email. OGV, I'lll send U a copy of the email so you can verify.
Posted by: SOUP | July 31, 2011 at 09:44 PM
Happy Shark Week everyone! It starts now. Best week of tv of the year! Except when the Canes are playing, of course.
Posted by: OhioCane | July 31, 2011 at 09:07 PM
Agree 100%.
Posted by: SOUP | July 31, 2011 at 09:56 PM
That is EXACTLY what Gary Ferman told me via email. OGV, I'lll send U a copy of the email so you can verify.
Posted by: SOUP | July 31, 2011 at 09:44 PM
Oh, SOUP, I think this name might be yours -- I think you dropped it.
Posted by: dj moonbat | July 31, 2011 at 10:14 PM
So in other words I am sensing that we will be better but not great. Next yr will be a down year again! Then maybe in 2013 we win a ACC title? Sounds bleek....
Posted by: elliott | July 31, 2011 at 10:26 PM
I am going to laugh if we win 10 games this yr and beat VT.
Posted by: elliott | July 31, 2011 at 10:26 PM
I am going to laugh if we win 10 games this yr and beat VT.
Posted by: elliott | July 31, 2011 at 10:26 PM
Oh, I don't think VT is any sort of huge favorite over UM next year.
Posted by: dj moonbat | July 31, 2011 at 10:30 PM
Yeah but they are supposed to win the coastal and in order for us to make it to the big game we have to take care of business with VT.
Posted by: elliott | July 31, 2011 at 10:33 PM
here are some preseason polls which mean nothing but they do all have VT between 17-20
http://www.nationalchamps.net/2011/earlybird/index.htm
Check the accuracy of National Champs predictions over the last several years , they get it very close.
click the how accurate is the early bird preview.
Posted by: solarcane | July 31, 2011 at 11:31 PM
here are some preseason polls which mean nothing but they do all have VT between 17-20
Posted by: solarcane | July 31, 2011 at 11:31 PM
Sure, but if I were to bet that game, I would happily take Miami with the spread likely to be in the 5-6 point range. (I don't bet on sports, but my point is just that even if VT IS a legit favorite over Miami, an upset would hardly cause college football observers to freak out.)
Posted by: dj moonbat | July 31, 2011 at 11:40 PM
six Ken Dorsey For Six
I'm not retired because I am too old to play.. I retired because I'm too old to party AND play football.
Posted by: solarcane | July 31, 2011 at 11:44 PM
Soup,
JC Ridly " Caneshooter "
Miami Hurricane offical sports photographer for 17 years has agreed to do an interview for Canespace describing his favorite Miami Hurricane pics from all sports over the last 17 years.
I'll email you more tomorrow
Posted by: solarcane | July 31, 2011 at 11:59 PM
solar, it's about time Ken got to party, guy was a hermit in college but made it fun to be on campus thanks to keeping that small number on the TV chyron next to the school's name every week. He deserves a good time especially if the alternative is no good time and keep holding the clipboard while you polish these young turks.
Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | August 01, 2011 at 12:04 AM
nothing good happens after midnight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5Tiqv4Irjs&feature=related
JJ Cale n slowhand
out
Posted by: solarcane | August 01, 2011 at 12:09 AM
Regardless if it's a 3-4 or a 4-3, WHAT YOU DO IN THE BACK, determines WHAT YOU DO IN THE FRONT, IOWs, the COVERAGE determines the defense. When Miami had great defenses, they had great run support from their LBs and DBs, particularly CB (think Antrel Rolle vs FSU). If you look at the NFL, the great 3-4 teams (i.e. Steelers and Packers) play what you would call a QUARTER/QUARTER/HALF COVERAGE. They play a Quarters (Cover-4) to the strong side, and a Half (Cover-2) coverage to the weak side. On the Quarters side, they try to spill everything to Polamalu, and on the Halves side, they try to spill everything to Ike Taylor. So regardless of what we run this season, if the back 7 doesn't understand their pass and run coverages, then it doens't matter what our D-Linemen do, we're gonna get gashed...
Posted by: CaneRock | August 01, 2011 at 01:42 AM
Canerock...good comment with explanations on coverage scemes. Me likey!
Posted by: 86Cane | August 01, 2011 at 08:29 AM
Solar...that's great! I have chatted with Ridley and we are friends on Facebook. Cool guy with mucho Hurricane history running around in his brain. Should be fun!
Posted by: 86Cane | August 01, 2011 at 08:31 AM
They play a Quarters (Cover-4) to the strong side, and a Half (Cover-2) coverage to the weak side. On the Quarters side, they try to spill everything to Polamalu, and on the Halves side, they try to spill everything to Ike Taylor.
Posted by: CaneRock | August 01, 2011 at 01:42 AM
If it's quarters on one side, and a half on the other (for a total of 3 deep zones), how is that not a Cover 3?
Posted by: dj moonbat | August 01, 2011 at 09:32 AM
"If it's quarters on one side, and a half on the other (for a total of 3 deep zones), how is that not a Cover 3?
Posted by: dj moonbat
Because the WS (Weak Safety) is playing a deep half, while the WC (Weak Corner)i.e. Ike Taylor, is responsible for the flats in Cover-2. On the strong side, Polamalu and the CB on that side are responsible for the deep quarters, which basically converts to man to man if they run 2 verts with the WRs on that side. The reason they play Cover-4 strong is because Cover-4 is generally accepted as the best run defense coverage out there, all Polamalu is doing is keying the #2 (normally a TE) for His run/pass reads. If the TE blocks down,reach blocks,turn out blocks,etc....then Polamalu comes up quick in run support. Or they can have TP read #2...to ROB #1, so in that situation, TP ends up doubling the intended receiver on that side. So basically it can be a 3-4 with a "Monster", or a 3-4 with "Robber" coverage...
Posted by: CaneRock | August 01, 2011 at 10:07 AM
Peoples knowledge of the game never ceases to amaze me......
Now I know what my defense is doing when I select the 'robber' defense in NCAA 2012, lol.
Posted by: raizecane | August 01, 2011 at 10:14 AM
So you're saying that the coverage reads on the Cover 4 side are designed to be independent of the Cover2 side?
Posted by: dj moonbat | August 01, 2011 at 10:19 AM
"Peoples knowledge of the game never ceases to amaze me...".
Posted by: raizecane
You got a better explanation?
And I DON'T play video games,
so that's NOT how I came to my conclusion if that's what you meant...
Posted by: CaneRock | August 01, 2011 at 10:20 AM
"So you're saying that the coverage reads on the Cover 4 side are designed to be independent of the Cover 2 side?"
Posted by: dj moonbat
Yes...
Posted by: CaneRock | August 01, 2011 at 10:22 AM
Got it.
Posted by: dj moonbat | August 01, 2011 at 10:24 AM
"Peoples knowledge of the game never ceases to amaze me...".
Posted by: raizecane
You got a better explanation?
And I DON'T play video games,
so that's NOT how I came to my conclusion if that's what you meant...
Posted by: CaneRock | August 01, 2011 at 10:20 AM
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Pretty sure Raize was being serious, not sarcastic when he said that.
He meant now that U explained it, he'll know what to do when HE's playing video games.
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | August 01, 2011 at 10:42 AM
CaneRock - my comment was a compliment to your explanation.
Your knowledge (and others) of schemes is very impressive (again, in a positive way) and I enjoy learning these things. :-)
Posted by: raizecane | August 01, 2011 at 10:44 AM
Canerock...yeah, like ohio said above U read RaizeCane all wrong, he was actually complimenting U for your knowledge of the game.
Did the OSU game sell out yet?
Posted by: 86Cane | August 01, 2011 at 10:45 AM
CANESPACE PROGRAMMING NOTE:
WVUM Q&A blog tonight at 8 PM.
WVUM LIVE chat Tuesday night at 8 PM.
Thank U!
The Management
Posted by: 86Cane | August 01, 2011 at 10:47 AM
With the Personael they have at DT, they need to go to a 3-4 defense, if not this year but next. Miami just can't get top notch DT's on a regular basis, in my opinion, to keep running a 4-3. We currently have 22 verbals and not one DT. We didn't get one last year, until we had 2 late additions and King isn't through the clearinghouse yet. The 4-3 is a bland defense but is good when you get the DT's who can push the pocket and are good run stoppers. In the 3-4 you just need a nose guard who is like 6'2 330 in the middle to be a clog.
Posted by: Herbie Ibis | August 01, 2011 at 10:52 AM
My apologies to raizecane and CaneSpace, I misinterpreted the intent of your comment. Again, I apologize raizecane...
Posted by: CaneRock | August 01, 2011 at 11:04 AM
Tickets for the OSU game are on sale!
Buy them today or get left out!!!
Posted by: 86Cane | August 01, 2011 at 11:06 AM
I can tell you this..from sitting in on a couple of the middle school practices, I have a lot to learn lol..but I will be coaching my youngest boy this year for the 7 & 8yo team..got to start somewhere lol
Posted by: UMike | August 01, 2011 at 11:34 AM
With the Personael they have at DT, they need to go to a 3-4 defense, if not this year but next.
Posted by: Herbie Ibis | August 01, 2011 at 10:52 AM
I don't think they have the two or three HUGE guys you need to play Nose Tackle. (Even the best NTs get tired sometimes.)
I think D'Onofrio and Golden are being quite upfront that they intend to be "multiple," throwing personnel groupings out there that will not immediately indicate an intent to do 3-4 type stuff or 4-3 type stuff.
Imagine, for instance, that Forston or Regis is on the field with a couple of guys in the 270-280 range, and then M-Rob. They line up with some relatively wide spacing, and M-Rob doesn't have his hand down. Is that a 3-4, or a 4-3?
It doesn't really matter.
Posted by: dj moonbat | August 01, 2011 at 11:41 AM
And it really does not matter at all if none of these kids can tackle.....playing the C Mac video in my mind as he holds his hands to the heavens as if to say "that is like my 100th missed tackle in this game alone"! Gee I sure hope those days are long gone! And the days of Rashaad, Raize, Angry, Nick and I just laughing as J12 throws yet another interception. All the while that annoying Gator waitress just smirking at us....ugh cannot have a replay of these heartache scenarios next year!!!!
Posted by: canechic | August 01, 2011 at 12:03 PM
Rashad sorry spelled your name wrong!
Posted by: canechic | August 01, 2011 at 12:04 PM
canechic..even in NCAA 2011 we cant tackle..they must of did their homework lol
Posted by: UMike | August 01, 2011 at 12:08 PM
Canechic - Yea, it got comical after a while.
Hey, I just thought of a new game. Everytime J12 throws a INT, everybody has to shotgun a beer or do a shot.....LOL.
Posted by: raizecane | August 01, 2011 at 12:12 PM
NOOOOO raize I can't take it!!!!! LOL!!!!
Posted by: canechic | August 01, 2011 at 12:15 PM
Hey, I just thought of a new game. Everytime J12 throws a INT, everybody has to shotgun a beer or do a shot.....LOL.
Posted by: raizecane | August 01, 2011 at 12:12 PM
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U won't be drinking much this year. =P
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | August 01, 2011 at 12:17 PM
Hey, I just thought of a new game. Everytime J12 throws a INT, everybody has to shotgun a beer or do a shot.....LOL.
Posted by: raizecane | August 01, 2011 at 12:12 PM
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U won't be drinking much this year. =P
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | August 01, 2011 at 12:17 PM
So, Ohio_Cane, is that a prediction that Morris ends up the starting QB?
Posted by: dj moonbat | August 01, 2011 at 12:27 PM
OGV and Canerock, great insight on Defense, you guys are very sharp. Maximum pressure from 4 guys is a big plus, and I do like to blitz, especially out of the famed 46. I always thought in the great years we had the great advantage of corners and safteys who were excellent man on man. I really like my corners man up; we had the luxury of 4 DBs with that ability, and our LBs were great at coverage as well. Add that up front pressure...and a defense where everybody hit hard and tackled pretty good.....tough to pass on.
Posted by: VA Cane | August 01, 2011 at 12:35 PM
So, Ohio_Cane, is that a prediction that Morris ends up the starting QB?
Posted by: dj moonbat | August 01, 2011 at 12:27 PM
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Lol, I see what U did there. ;-)
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | August 01, 2011 at 12:37 PM
^^ And just in case that was a serious question, NO, Jacory will be starting QB come the game vs Maryland.
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | August 01, 2011 at 12:38 PM
I really like multiple sets on D...it is a lot to learn, but it makes people have to guess who to block. The 46 is great for that....hard to figure it out..we will run a 4-3, a 3-4, 5-3, 6-2, a 4-4 stack or spread, the 46...and I even throw the old Dallas Flex in there. I met Dexter Clinksdale at a camp once and he showed me the nuts and bolts...kinda cool. I also was lucky to go to a clinic where Buddy and Rex Ryan were....Buddy is a mean old cuss, but he knows defense. The last couple years I think our biggest problems on Defense are covering the TE and horrible tackling. We tackle so bad...technique is all wrong. My teens tackle better than some of our guys. JMO
Posted by: VA Cane | August 01, 2011 at 12:43 PM
Hey, I just thought of a new game. Everytime J12 throws a INT, everybody has to shotgun a beer or do a shot.....LOL.
Posted by: raizecane | August 01, 2011 at 12:12 PM
U trying to get everybody drunk?
U will not have enough Captain Morgan to go around! LOL
Posted by: SOUP | August 01, 2011 at 12:50 PM
Rashad sorry spelled your name wrong!
Posted by: canechic | August 01, 2011 at 12:04 PM
Speaking of which...where is that little Canespace T-shirt wearing SOB? Sure do miss "The Player" around here!
I saw him at the Spring Game and he looked me in the eye and promised he would come around soon. Oh well so much for that, huh?
Posted by: SOUP | August 01, 2011 at 12:52 PM
Randy Moss has retired. Kinda surprised, kinda not surprised.
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | August 01, 2011 at 01:01 PM
Randy Moss has retired. Kinda surprised, kinda not surprised.
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | August 01, 2011 at 01:01 PM
There's a lot of pot out there; it's not just gonna smoke itself.
Posted by: dj moonbat | August 01, 2011 at 01:04 PM
35 days . . . !
Posted by: j.w. | August 01, 2011 at 01:24 PM
Great deal at the Hampton Inn..I'm coming with 3 other buddies..so 4 of us total for 3 nights..only $75 a person when we split it...sweet
Posted by: UMike | August 01, 2011 at 02:06 PM
Jason Taylor back to the Dolphins? Now all we need is Zack Thomas and Dan Marino to make it a "hat trick"!!
Go 'canes!
Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | August 01, 2011 at 02:09 PM
100th
Posted by: 2002nemo | August 01, 2011 at 02:27 PM