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August 18, 2011

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canechic


Canechic...U have issues. That is all.

Posted by: SOUP | August 19, 2011 at 12:36 AM


Because ?? Reality bites sometimes no matter the messenger.

Raize I called out DS some time back and pointed out that I thought the whole athletic Dept was broken, right before they the school hired Eichorst.

Sarasota 'cane

Your statements are premature canechic. Get on the phone and promote the positive. Now is the time to circle the wagons, not fix the NCAA.

Go 'canes!

canechic

How can we spin this in the positive Sarasota? This makes the school look ridiculous. The school is not even defending the school!

The school let ESPN set the whole ton!!

I know I am in the minority here but I am not to fond of this behavior among these players. I don't think it is okay to act like that no matter where you come from. I am not a fan of telling these kids to lie to the NCAA, not matter how I feel abou the NCAA. cheating and lying will never be Okay in my book.....makes you no better than Shapiro himself.

I am upset that the school allowed this sleaze to have full rein at the school. I am darn disappointed in everyone.

Now if this means I have issues I guess I do!

I am going to let it be and put on my tinfoil hat. Have a great day!

Sarasota 'cane

No one is saying that cheating and lying is ok, I'm saying that today is not the day for doom and gloom. We can fix the program later, today we need to get in front of the issue and get the other side of the story out there. PROVE IT!!

Yahoo claims to have substantiated all of their allegations and yet every player not still playing for UM has been exonerated. How can Yahoo defend the abortion accusation when they don't even know if there actually was an abortion?

The only reason the NCAA would try to invoke the "willful violations" clause today is because the only hard evidence they have dates outside of the statute of limitations.

This is a witch hunt!

Go 'canes!

2002nemo

When Smoke Gets In Your Lungs . . .

U can die.

canechic

Tone! Yikes iPad!

Sarasota I read that but if this was just drivel it would have been stopped long ago. It would have never gotten this far without some credibility.

I blew it off long ago when it first came out, according to Kirby he blew it off too and did not prepare for the fallout. The school underestimated it all.
I wish none of this was true, Nicole is starting to get pretty down about it. I promised her we would not talk about it anymore because she is excited about her JR year and all this talk is depressing her. No ESPN while she is in the room. We are going out today to buy some goodies and have a go back to school shopping day!


Sarasota 'cane

I've been on the Dan Sileo show today. I'm not convinced the NCAA has any proof to keep the current players off the field. We'll have to wait and see what they told the NCAA. There isn't anything in the Yahoo article that should keep an active player off the field.

http://allabouttheu.wordpress.com/2011/08/18/renegade-reporter-spells-out-litany-of-accusations-while-often-failing-to-substantiate-his-claims/

Let's go 'canes!

raizecane

I think we all need to take a deep breath and just sit back. We all know that when everything is said and done 8 - 12 months from now, we will lose scholly's, get banned from bowl play, and be on probation for 3 - 5 years.

We will be very lucky if recruits still want to come here and coach Golden stays after this season

Bottom line - we are gonna have to deal with another 8 years of 'middle of the road' teams. Just my opinion.....

2002nemo

Did the NCAA investigators "interview" any strippers or hookers when they were in Miami?

. . . just wondering.

SinisterCane

Just wondering does the NCAA interview Shapiro?

Sarasota 'cane

Did the NCAA interview the abortion doctor?

CGNC

Did the NCAA interview the abortion doctor?

Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | August 19, 2011 at 09:30 AM

LOL my daughter came home with USA Today yesterday and yes, we were front page and the story ran on the inside. She said "abortion" and "prostitute" and I told her those were buzzwords used by that sleaze because he wants and is creating havoc in the media, that he wants to destroy the program. She said "why would anyone listen to him when he stole all that money?" We went more in depth.

My take on the "alleged abortion" story is some party girl wanted some additional $$$ and called Lil Madoff with that story since he apparently tried to buy everyone in sight. IF it happened at ALL.

BMAT

Im not sure who it is that some Miami fans think is lying. If you are talking about the current players there is no way of knowing that. They have talked to the NCAA and thats it and be damn sure that wont be leaked out. You also cant say all ExCanes lied because you have no idea if what Nevin is saying about them is true. We dont know who that source is that Yahoo is talking about. Dont you find it the least bit strange that he cant recall who was at a party by saying 3,4 or maybe 5 players but then turns around and tells you the exact conversation he had with them, we are talking at least 4 year old conversations and many being much longer. I wont even get into what its like here with ESPN trolling the streets

canechic

I hope you guys are listening to the CBS guy (Dennis Dodd) on Joe Rose this morning. He explains why all those guys got cleared so fast....rules violations do not follow the player if they do not go to school where the violation occurs.

I sadly agree with many things he said about this situation.

CGNC

Posted by: canechic | August 19, 2011 at 09:45 AM

Some of us work, ya know - LOL!

canechic

Once the podcast is available listen to it. He is not a hater he is just darn angry and disappointed that this guy was given access to the players and coaches.

Kirby called Shannon in and told him to PLEASE be nice to this guy.....WHAT DOES THIS SAY?????

Some many things getting clearer.

Okay I am done, I am out!

mi@mic@ne

The U defense lawyers have no power. All they can do is writing wars. They cant even represent the playas ... by counsel. So we are already guilty... just remember that the constitution was put into place for the little guy. Without constitutional rites we have no personal rites.

Posted by: mi@mic@ne | August 18, 2011 at 10:23 PM


The NCAA is not a state; it cannot imprison or otherwise punish offenders. The NCAA is a cartel, and it can simply tell cartel members that they can't participate in games with other cartel members unless they are in compliance. There really are not any significant constitutional issues posed by a non-state actor imposing these sorts of restrictions on its members.

This is laughable. Seriously i would like nothing better to wake up and read the head line in the Herald... The NCAA CARTEL HAS COME TO TOWN... lol.
But in all seriousness i believe this situation is like having to be judged with the threats of a cartel. The constitution not only deals with the punishment of a crime but the due process of law. In other words the way the information is obtained is scrutinized in the due process of law. The reason that we have due process is because the constitution is weighted toward the accused and it prevents the prosecution from forcing the accused to testify against himself for the purpose of fairness over punishment.
This is why the way the information that is being obtained and written about is itself a crime. Although most of this information would be thrown out in court because of the way it was obtained yet we do not prosecute the prosecutors because they obtained it illegally. So the system encourages obtaining information rather than prosecuting the messenger. In that case there would be no one left to prosecute the cases. lol...
I dont blame Hocutt for getting out of dodge. Because any man would who had any sense would avoid a cartel coming to town using a criminal with the freedom to present his case using the cartel to paint a picture of the people he accused that he did not have to face with all the protections under the law that he enjoyed. lol. Not only would the information be subject to how it was obtained but it would be subject to cross examination. First most of it would be thrown out because the defendant was forced under coercion to incriminate himself.

Ohio_Cane

He explains why all those guys got cleared so fast....rules violations do not follow the player if they do not go to school where the violation occurs.

Posted by: canechic | August 19, 2011 at 09:45 AM
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How about if the person who violated the rules is found guilty of that violation, but left school? Is Miami on the hook even tho they don't work at the school any more?

For example, does that mean Miami wouldn't suffer consequences if a violator left school, for, say, a Texas Tech job?

Sarasota 'cane

I'm not saying that there were not violations, I'm saying that unless they can tie the violations to the current players then they should not be able to invoke the "willful violations" clause or hold the players out.

"If the glove don't fit, the NCAA must acquit!"

Go 'canes

http://allabouttheu.wordpress.com/2011/08/18/renegade-reporter-spells-out-litany-of-accusations-while-often-failing-to-substantiate-his-claims/

canechic

Turn on WQAM they are talking about it now Ohio. Gino is freaking out about the rule..

Violations only follow coaches.

LOL CGNC- I need to work so I can stop worrying about this garbage!!!!!

Sarasota 'cane

FREE THE GOLDEN 12!!!!!!!

Go 'canes!

Sarasota 'cane

Look at Underdog's ring!! He won a 'ship at THE U!

Go 'canes!

3G Cane

More and more this is coming off looking like a hit job perpetrated by a professional con-man sociopath bent on revenge with the media's complete assistance.

How is it that all players named who arent at UM have been cleared already even though they were implicated in the same incidents that current UM players have yet to be vindicated from???

How is it that Robert Marve, who according to Yahoo has more "evidence" implicating him than than most all other current players has already been cleared but our players havent???

Is this because the NCAA has no recourse against players who are no longer here or never came here in the first place??? Or is it because they really have no interest in getting anyone else in trouble because they just want to hammer us???

We've already been absolutely STEAMROLLED by the media and basically tried, convicted and sentenced in the court of public opinion. So it is easy to see we arent going to get a fair shake there and it was made painfully obvious after last year's NBA season that outside of South Florida there isnt much love for anything Miami.

The worst part about this is that it seems everyone bought this weasel's trash hook, line and sinker just like the poor folks that got taken for close to a BILLION dollars of their hard earned money.

I'm not going to say that we were completely clean in this because I dont think we are but this guy definitely used some creative license with this whopper of a tale that he concocted. Sadly it seems as though the media has become just the next sucker in the long line of this creep's victims.

Hopefully the NCAA does a more thorough investigation than the sensationalist hack at Yahoo did, however I fear they are looking to make an example of us no matter what and with the way the media has portrayed this, anything short of the death penalty is going to make them look bad.

WE CANT LET THIS HAPPEN

[]_[] GO CANES []_[]

eYeofthestorm

Solar,
You forgot"The heat Is On" Glen Frey.

The bottom line to all this muck & mire is this: probably 50% of this stuff is true, 25% is half truths & 25% is B.S. I don't care about 75% of this crap if it happened 5 years ago or more, I care about the 12 that are currently playing & the coaches implicated because that's where our main problem is going to be. If any of those 12 confess then they damn shore will bring into play what's been happening the last 10 years. If this is the case, the Nazi Caring Assholes Association will tell us to bring the nails for the coffin. No it won't be the death Penalty but it will be bowl bans, loss of 20 to 30 ships, loss of victories, & Fines + probation for 3 to 5 years. The guilty players still on the team will be banished from college athletics.
It sux, plain and simple. All those blood suckers hate us. They hate this tiny school, that intruded on the big boys party and won 5 ships, in 19 years and talked & danced our way while doing it. We are on an island all by ourselves and the enemy is closing on all sides.

alf

NCAA can't find anything over the last 4 years. So now they are breaking their own rule and going past 4 years just to find infractions so the can put miami on probation. The media coverage on this story is huge so NCAA has to put miami on probation no matter what even if infractions haven't occurred in the last 4 years. If they don't punish miami NCAA will like weak and get a lot of heat from everyone. Ncaa and scampiro are both scams. NCAA should look at them selves and re do their whole rule book. NCAA please just be honest and don't put us on probation for something that happen 7 to 10 years ago. Yahoo story is scam as well

Sarasota 'cane

We don't whether the NCAA has anything over the last 4 years or not. It's obvious that Yahoo doesn't have anything that should trigger a "willful violations" clause.

http://allabouttheu.wordpress.com/2011/08/18/renegade-reporter-spells-out-litany-of-accusations-while-often-failing-to-substantiate-his-claims/

Go 'canes!

Sarasota 'cane

Cam Newton's Dad took over 180k and Auburn was able to play for a title and Cam got a Heisman. We need to relax!

Go 'canes!

SOUP

I hope you guys are listening to the CBS guy (Dennis Dodd) on Joe Rose this morning. He explains why all those guys got cleared so fast....rules violations do not follow the player if they do not go to school where the violation occurs.

Posted by: canechic | August 19, 2011 at 09:45 AM

So let me get this straight.

What U are saying is that a player like oh say Reggie Bush could take $250K from USC and admit it, then transfer to UCLA and take another $250K admit it, then transfer to OSU get another $250K and never play a down and then leave the NCAA with $750K and get drafted as a junior into the NFL.

All three schoolds would get punished but ol Reggie could just skate without any NCAA recourse?

Really? REALLY?

canechic

yep check it out for yourself Soup I am sure the show is online at WQAM...Gino was freaking out about it...

orange 'n green in the vein

Shannon told the one foot out the door dunce where to stick it essentially. I'm sure his masterpiece of a moron with a mike press conference after the firing with three years left on the contract that was signed was so full on special needs in part because in the back of his mind the exchange over playing nice with the rat was going on the mental projector on repeat. That and his odds of getting the Lubbock job. Worst UM AD ever.

SOUP

Canechic...that is messed up, no?

orange 'n green in the vein

canechic, if the player took impermissible benefits, they would have to repay them even at their new school before eligibility would be restored. These other guys are getting cleared first because it's a one and done investigation, Marve has no substantiating evidence? Clear. Brown, same thing? Clear. Godfrey? Same? Clear. Twelve guys at UM on the current roster? Well, this investigation will take a while but for the time being they're good until it can be substantiated otherwise. The media can't be bothered to read the NCAA manual, they are going off of what they specifically ask various compliance department people to explain to them.

Texascane

"All three schoolds would get punished but ol Reggie could just skate without any NCAA recourse? Soup

I guess I understand now why all these kids continue to take their alloted visits even though they are committed...free money

SOUP

Texas...U got that right. The more I know, the less I like about then NCAA and college football right about now. Talk about disillusioned? WOW!

And just to think that the UM compliance office wouldn't let Canespace pay $55 for an underprivileged kid to attend the Golden football camp. I guess they got their priorities straight huh?

SOUP

Anybody got any vaseline? I wanna be ready when the NCAA comes knocking.

Texascane

Kirby doing the 'ol soft shoe...the boy can really skate around a question...future in politics...

http://redraiders.com/filed-online/2011-08-17/twenty-questions-kirby-hocutt

dj moonbat

Worst UM AD ever.

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | August 19, 2011 at 10:47 AM


Can't argue with that.

Sarasota 'cane

Just because they said the violations don't carry over on the Gino Show doesn't mean it's true. I've so much BS since this started that I just want to scream!
Last night on JT the Brick a guy called and said he was at some of the party's and started spewing all these mistatements about so many facts that I started to laugh. He said Hurtt was now at UF and Donna introduced Barry Alvarez to Shapiro, etc. After he was done JT said, "There you go folks, the evidence just keeps piling up!" It was a complete joke!
It reminded me of the article written by an ESPN hack after Sean Taylor died that said UM was out of control. A couple of hours later we hear that he was home on IR and he was defending his family from a burglar when he was killed.

http://allabouttheu.wordpress.com/2011/08/18/renegade-reporter-spells-out-litany-of-accusations-while-often-failing-to-substantiate-his-claims/

Go 'canes!

Stork

Alf, you are an effing loser... Write a book, have yourself publish it, and then buy it to make you feel popular. Holy shiz dude, you have a life? Hope you aint a lawyer, or have a life outside of this U!

3G Cane

Cant wait to go watch practice tomorrow, I need some Canes football badly.

Stork

Ohh yeah, ALF, Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Screw Yahoo! Screw that schmuck in prision. But you are just a tool. I mean I love, "Dont read anything Yahoo published..." Or whatever... ok, def wont Alf, thanks for the head up. Everyone else in the real world is just being duped. Just like those of us that believe Jimmy was killed by the CIA

NigerianCane

I don't care if we get a slap on the wrist or a major sacrion. Let's start a fund called the '6 feet deep bounty.' use the money to put Shapiro 6 feet deep; either in the slammer or out.
If he wants to take us down with him, let's make sure he really goes down. Like Ed reed, 'I'm mad dawg.' no one messes with a cane.
NCAA can go to hell. Damn I'm mad.
If u have sex with a minor, u go to jail. The burden should be on u too if u deceive a minor. The law is fukced up.

ftmcane

instead of a 6' deep fund how about a "rape shapiro fund"? gotta be able to find someone in the pin that would carry out that order. seems like that would hurt this clown more.

eYeofthestorm

At 5'5 he'll be someone's bitch.

TLuv

I guess what I don't understand is the whole "you can't punish the people because they left, you have to punish the institution" argument." An institution is as good as the people that work there. Without the people it is just a bunch of bricks. If YOU commit violations then YOU should be punished. That's what blows my mind. The fact that Kirby will be able to be an AD and go watch Texas Tech at their bowl game but we won't be allowed to make one.

BMAT

The NCAA laws are what they are and nothing can be done about that right now. Of course the players that transfered outta here would be ruled on before the Miami players would be and that has nothing to do with anti Miami stuff. Miami has to be 100% sure these 12 will be ok to play. Its a very tough process to go through with the 12 right now. Lets not forget that some players will be suspended for at least the opener its just at this point fans dont know if any of those are the media pointing 12. Just keep that in mind. This team is still out there busting it on the practice field earning every bit of playing tine they will get. This is a tight family. Please try and include JoJos son LJ in your prayers, hes been very very sick.

Sarasota 'cane

instead of a 6' deep fund how about a "rape shapiro fund"? gotta be able to find someone in the pin that would carry out that order. seems like that would hurt this clown more.

Posted by: ftmcane | August 19, 2011 at 11:57 AM

We could get Bernie Madoff and Allen Stanford to do it! Scott Rothstein could hold him down! Yeah, that's the ticket!
We could call it the UFFC (Ultimate Financial Fraud Championship)!

TLuv

I'm sure Shapiro is in a nice, cozy, minimum security prison. Have any of you seen the Madoff's prison cell? Looks like a hotel room. I doubt he's anyone's bitch. I hope I'm wrong.

Ohio_Cane

Colin McCarthy's high school coach would be surprised if Miami booster allegations pan out http://t.co/tnqayRI

360Cane

Now putting the guys in a hotel makes sense, yes?

I agree with the U staying hush. No reason to get in a media war with anyone. Let it run it's course. Let the truth come out on it's own. Then we'll sue the hell outta everybody.

NigerianCane

guys this is how this went down. i live here in NY & the standard here is much higher. NYers are snubs and if you dont belong, you will never be accepted. as beautiful as miami is, it is infiltrated with the hiphop culture in a big way. there are many clowns like shapiro walking around south beach and many of them have made their way into high society in miami. miamians (if i may use the word) have come to accept that NYers are in general like shapiro; brash and obnoxious. i also think they see that as being 'cool?' let me assure you, a bum like that will not even make it past my doorman (i'm the general manager of a club in NYC). i dont care if he buys 10 bottles. and my club is not the hardest to get into either. NY has layers and layers of levels in society. a guy like shapiro cannot make it far in manhattan acting out like that. in brooklyn maybe.
school administration probably just thought he was acting like a typical newyorker by acting brash. thats why they thought never to judge him. over here, we call his type, JEW-GGERS.

Sarasota 'cane

Happiness is a New Yorker headed north with a Canadian under each arm!

Go 'canes!!

pre83

Stork:

I am not going to entirely speak for Alph, however, I believe what he is trying to say is that the mere frequency of the U's story all over the media is not reason enough to call/assume someone guilty.

Seriously, to me, that is really the most upsetting part of this entire matter. Especially considering, as has been demonstrated by multiple people, that there are holes all over this case.

Think about it and put yourself in the shoes of the accused. First, the easiest assumption to make is that they are all guilty simply by association.

Second, there is absolute total disregard for the reputations of any of the named/accused. I mean hell, didn't you hear, prostitutes, parties on a yacht, abortions. How can they not be guilty?

Yeah, put yourself in the shoes of the unjustly accused.

This story has engulfed the entire nation with accusations that those "in charge" have not even taken the time to explain. Tell me that is remotely responsible. But hey, it's all over the news, so it must be true.

Whatever, man.

canechic

Here is the link to today's Joe Rose with Dennis Dodd today:

http://www.wqam.com/index.php?page=727

Yes Soup it is very messed up!!!!!

canechic

PLEASE LISTEN TO WHAT HE HAS TO SAY!!!!

BMAT

Nevin put something out there that makes 0 sense and no way could happen. Hes trying to convince the college football world that he had recruits in his suite for the FSU game and saying he was there until around midnight with them. So if true then how in the hell could he also say he took players to a club and entertained them by trying to show in a credit card statement? The statement says its dated 10/04/08..uhm the date changes after midnight so how is that story possible? Pathetic Yahoo put that out for the hacks to see

CGNC

BMAT - Lil Madoff has told so many lies he cannot keep them straight

Sometimes where there is smoke there is just more smoke......?

eYeofthestorm

Instead of sitting here analyzing and dissecting this whole mess, i'd like to know what eveyone thinks the penalties are going to be because we are going to get sanctions laid on us, whether you want to believe it or not. How many ship losses, years probation, fines, etc.

pbcfrcane13

Im guessing 3-5 year bowl ban 10 scholarships per year for the next 5 years so 50 total and probation for 5 years....IMO

Itsa_Canes_Thing

With all the media trash talking and yahoo mess, when it is all said and done these scumbags are going to build us a new stadium. Welcome to Screw Yahoo! Stadium with the Miami Hurricanes and the recently accused Florida State Seminoles square off. I'm going to love it.

It all started when this guy said he was going to try and write a book about everything at Miami. Well no one wanted to publish, well guess what. How is he going to get his book published without the evidence, fabricate it release the information through Yahoo! and then everyone will be asking for the rights to his book. I'm not saying we are free of any wrong doing but just not as much as being portrayed(sp)

raizecane

E -

It's hard to say what we will get but when the word "death penalty" is being mentioned, I think the NCAA will bow down to pressure.

So with that being said, I think we get what both USC and OSU get and combine it.

No matter what it winds up being, it's going to hurt this program for a long time. And mark my words, as soon as recruits start dropping like flies, that will be the begining of a very long road to recovery.

CGNC

Ok CC to appease you I took off my tinfoil hat long enough to listen to Dennis Dodd while I ate lunch. He is a columnist at CBS with some opinions. Nothing more nothing less. I did like "I am surprised Donna Shalala has a job" by the way. Now, back to the tinfoil hat......

j.w.

Nigerian, you're a Cane and I'm trying to circle the wagons with all Canes, but that name you threw in at the end of your post is offensive.

j.w.

BMAT- you wouldn't be surprised that Marve's girlfriend at the time stated she was with him after that game when he supposedly was at a strip club with Shapiro.

Itsa_Canes_Thing

If\When the NCAA come down on us, it will be simple (relatively speaking). If Golden stays I would have to say if they want to compete then they will have to lower the admission standards to get the kids to come in. If USC can still pull in these recruits then we can to. It's going to be a lot harder but as long as Golden sticks around I am confident it can be done.

Texascane

Now how can this be...if they are implicated when they were here but clean when they got to Alabama...?
This just gets curiouser and c
uriouser...

"TUSCALOOSA, Ala. -- Coach Nick Saban says Alabama vetted two former Miami assistants before hiring them and found no NCAA issues.

Saban, speaking after practice Thursday, said the university uncovered no compliance "red flags" on either offensive line coach Jeff Stoutland or director of football operations Joe Pannunzio. Both former Hurricanes coaches were named in a report alleging that they steered recruits to a jailed booster who says he supplied Miami players with prostitutes, cars and other gifts over the past decade.

Saban says he knows "nothing about Miami" and that Alabama does things the right way. He says if Stoutland or Pannunzio did anything wrong, "I'm sure they will get the appropriate punishment."

Saban made the remarks in his opening statement and didn't address questions on the Miami investigation"

Itsa_Canes_Thing

I love how everyone always takes the opportunity to say I know nothing about Miami but WE DO IT THE RIGHT WAY! Saban....Child Please cut that garbage out you know just as well that your assistants are in the basement working harder than the Nixon administration during Watergate.

TJL

Saban says Alabama does things the right way?? Thanks for making me laugh so hard I peed my pants! BTW what ever happened with the suits investigation? There was pics of the wide receiver in a different expensive suit for every game, and pics of him in the owner of the clothing stores office on the guys computer

360Cane

I'm not buying the violations don't follow players. I don't want to hear some CBS guy talk out his ass. I want page numbers in the NCAA rule book.

When you are found ineligible by the NCAA this means you are ineligible under everything NCAA. I just don't see it being ineligible by schools, only that it happens at.

If this is the case, and we are smashed. I won't watch another game of CFB.

dg

Saban should look up Albert Means and shut the f*** up. I'm from Memphis and I can tell you Bama will do what it takes to get who they want still!!

UpNorthCane

Guys im hearing that their will be some good news concerning our current roster this afternoon into the evening so i guess its a wait and see approach at this point. Heard that in a few radio interviews today..

Ohio_Cane

Not sure if it's been posted, but this makes a bad situation look worse. Especially for those hoping all of this is BS...

UM Source Confirms Shapiro's Recruiting Role - http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/sports/UM-Source-Confirms-Shapiros-Role-in-Recruiting-128052448.html

Ohio_Cane

Guys im hearing that their will be some good news concerning our current roster this afternoon into the evening so i guess its a wait and see approach at this point. Heard that in a few radio interviews today..

Posted by: UpNorthCane | August 19, 2011 at 02:24 PM
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I've literally got my hands together, praying this is correct...

eYeofthestorm

360cane,
I don't understand that either.Supposedly a player on a recruiting trip that accepts illegal benefits and doesn't sign there is okay a violation doesn't follow him to another school he signs with but a coach it does. Debose, Armstrong & Dye were there at the boat at the same time and Debose is cleared because he was on a recruiting trip. Marve & Arthur Brown I don't understand them getting cleared so quick because they were in school here.

Itsa_Canes_Thing

Ohio... PapaCane laughed at this guy this morning and said find something else!!

CGNC

Saban may live to regret that statement. Would rather have a vanilla response than something that could bite you in the keester later on

j.w.

which guy was he laughing at, itsa? The UM source or the guy with the good news (Ferman)?

Itsa_Canes_Thing

PapaCane was laughing at the guy with the NBC article, look like some guy trying to ride coat tales.So if there was a source, it would only be a player, coach. Another speculation story. Nothing to see

Ohio_Cane

Ohio... PapaCane laughed at this guy this morning and said find something else!!

Posted by: Itsa_Canes_Thing | August 19, 2011 at 02:32 PM
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which guy was he laughing at, itsa? The UM source or the guy with the good news (Ferman)?

Posted by: j.w. | August 19, 2011 at 02:40 PM
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Ya, this. Which one, itsa?

TonyCane

Just got back into town after a week's stay at Disney with no internet access. What the heck happened?

GvilleCanesFan

UpNorth....Where did you hear this at. I have been on 560 all day and haven't heard anything like that. I hope your right. If our current guys are cleared then I think it will be nothing but good news from there.

Itsa_Canes_Thing

This is what Adam K wrote about the article that he posted.

@AKuperstein
Adam Kuperstein
@SaveUMFootball this doesn't validate "assumptions", its 1 UM source in the know confirming a serious claim against Coaches made by Shapiro

Confirming an assumption! WTF!!! Everyone just wants to get a piece of the action. Get the EF outta here with garbage. If it were the coaches they are no longer with the program and guess what the clean program the Alabama is already cleared the coach and the other I think was cleared as well.

Gin & Tonic

Who cares if the 12 from this team are suspended. Didn't everyone already agree that this team was only going to go 8-5 at best, with or without Shapiro's dirty dozen?

TonyCane

If these allegations are true I'm prediciting the following sanctions:

- Three year shutdown of the program
- Limitation to 15 scholarships a year for the next five years
- Bowl ban during that five year time period.

Simultanteously the ACC boots Miami out of the conference.

That said, if Miami gets those penalties I imagine the following to transpire:

- Donna Shalala resigns or is fired.
- UM discontinues its football program completely, and perhaps brings it back as a 1-AA program in a decade or so with a new name and new colors, something completely disassociated with the program of old.

eYeofthestorm

Sha Sha should resign.

TLuv

Just got back into town after a week's stay at Disney with no internet access. What the heck happened?

Posted by: TonyCane | August 19, 2011 at 02:46 PM

I hope you're sitting down. Also, stay away from all sharp metal objects and tall buildings

orange 'n green in the vein

Pile all the anonymous unnamed sources up and it doesn't further substantiate anything out of a pathological liars mouth who has a stated desire to bring down the UM athletics department. Again, go on record as a named source who was there, get some hard evidence out of the jail midget or stop with this conviction by anonymous sources and a stool pigeon federal convicted liar.

CGNC

OGV - the story has taken on a life of its own, jeesh

TonyCane

TLUv, saw the story Tuesday night on ESPN. Unfortunately all I had to go on was ESPN's coverage as well as USA Today. No in depth coverage. Just Adam Schefter calling for Miami to get the death penalty, and then be shot in the head so that the Canes don't come back as zombies.

I'd heard about this story before. Either Sun-Sentinel or Miami Herald had run an article on Shapiro around Thanksgiving (which a Canes hater posted about a few months ago) but I had not heard anything since.

TLuv

I agree OGV...you have to have more solid evidence than a convicted liar. If the coaches and players deny it, what do you have? And please spare the nonsense saying "this isn't a court of law, you don't have to have that type of proof".....please. You have to be able to prove claims by more than a convicted felon and "sources" who probably weren't there to witness it anyway. If you're going to shut a team down you have to have evidence.

orange 'n green in the vein

CGNC, it's not an NCAA violation, as far as I know, please feel free anybody to cite the NCAA statute stating otherwise, if there is one (including you scaly little turd trolls out there, you know who you are!), to take a recruit on an official visit to the school to a booster's house. The cited anonymous (oxymoron anybody?) source even said it can't confirm the money exchanging hands which would be a violation.

Also, how do you know Nevin Shapiro's lying?

Simple, his mouth is moving.

I believe Adam Schefter can go on the Kareem Brown diet as far as I'm concerned. Maybe Shapiro's allowed conjugal visits in Atlanta and could use some more attention that he craves so badly?

NigerianCane

j.w., i apologize if it offends u or anyone, but the name was fashioned by jewish kids them selves in NYC. it is a spin off of the word WIGGERS which is also a spin off of the word NIGGER. Now this is the catch, the word NIGGER its self doesnt necessarily refer to black people anymore; of course it all depends on who is uttering them and in what context. you see latin kids, white kids, asian kids & even young girls in hiphop or the street refer to them selves as 'my NIGGER.' The other point is, the most offensive use of the word NIGGER stings because of the way it is intended to make black people feel. this all goes back to slavery and the oppressive period after that. now even u must admit that no matter how bad you are trying to slander a jewish person, calling them JEWGGER will never convey the same emotion as the offensive use of that word to a black person. now i recognize that jewish people went through their own ordeal during the war and any slander that connects a jewish person to that sad occurrence will certainly be offensive and would be wrong. using JEWGGER does nothing but infer that the subject in question is rough around the edges or tough or rowdy.
all the same I apologize to anyone that the word might offend.

TLuv

Here's a link to the Reggie Bush investigation. Lots of parallels, but MANY differences

1) The people making claims aren't convicted liars

2) There is an actual paper trail. Reggie Bush confirmed staying at the Venetian and it was payed for by a marketing exec.

The list goes on. Take a look

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ys-bushprobe

mi@mic@ne

CORAL GABLES, Fla.-Two weeks down, one more to go at Canes Camp.

The Hurricanes held their 17th practice of fall camp Friday morning under typically warm conditions on the Greentree Practice Fields. With its 2011 season at Maryland in 17 days, Miami now has six practices remaining before the team moves into "game week" mode.

On Friday, the Canes practiced in full pads but limited contact in most drills as the team is set to hold its final two-a-day of camp on Saturday.

HORN, JAMES TALK BEFORE PRACTICE
Senior center Tyler Horn and junior running back Mike James met with members of the media prior to Friday's practice. The message from both players was about the importance of the team staying focused and not letting outside distractions affect their preparation for the upcoming season.

"We're here from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m., so we don't have time to focus on anything but football," James said. "Football is like a soothing sport. It keeps us going, keeps our mind off everything."

Horn echoed his teammates' sentiments...

"Honestly, I think it's going to be us against the world," Horn said. "That's all we can focus on. All that matters are the people inside that Hecht, the people on this football field playing every day. Those are my brothers, and we're going to stick together."

HIGH PERFORMANCE PLAYERS
Throughout camp, HurricaneSports.com will highlight some of the best performers in each day's practice. While there are certainly other players who stood out throughout the course of the session, these student-athletes in particular caught our eye.

Offense
RB Lamar Miller- The Miami native has been breaking off big runs throughout fall camp and Friday was no different. Miller was finding even the smallest holes up front and getting to the second level where he would pick up big chunks of yardage in 11-on-11 action.

OL Joel Figueroa - Playing at both guard and tackle, Figueroa was arguably the most productive lineman in both the running and passing games. He was consistently staying in front of his man and late in practice, made a key block for Miller on a screen to the left side. The big block even drew praises from offensive line coach Art Kehoe, who shouted "nice job Fig, nice job" after the play.

Defense
LB Ramon Buchanan- One of the more underrated performers this fall, Buchanan had another solid day with several "tackles" in the limited contact practice. The Melbourne, Fla. native has been a vocal presence throughout camp, a sign that he appears ready to take on more of a leadership role in his final season at Miami.

LB Kelvin Cain - Cain collected a number of stops on Friday, including solid support on rush defense. With good pursuit on the outside, Cain had stops against Eduardo Clements and Mike James and was in on several other stops on intermediate passes up the middle.

CANES NAMED TO SOUTHERNPIGSKIN.COM ALL-ACC TEAM
Brandon Washington, Marcus Forston, Sean Spence and Ray-Ray Armstrong have been named to SouthernPigskin.com's Preseason All-ACC Team. The honor adds to the ever-growing list of preseason accolades for all four Canes.

Last week, Armstrong, Washington and Spence were named to ESPN.com's All-ACC squad. Last month, those three, along with center Tyler Horn, were voted by media members to the conference's preseason team.

Click HERE for the full SouthernPigskin ACC Team.

PHOTO GALLERY: FRIDAY MORNING
Click HERE for a photo gallery of some of the action from Greentree today.

PRE-PRACTICE INTERVIEWS
C Tyler Horn...

RB Mike James....

REVISITING BEHIND THE FACEMASK
Throughout camp, we will revisit some of our favorite Behind the Facemask stories that have been running throughout the summer. Today, we'll take a look back at Lee Chambers' story...

"Competition is like fuel to me. When you play football, you enjoy competition. That's what the game is mostly about. At the end of the day, you want to see who the best is. We come to practice every day and compete, because one thing about it, you can't get hurt, you can't get tired, or any of that, because the man behind you is just as good as you."

Behind the Facemask: Lee Chambers

NEXT PRACTICE
Miami will return to Greentree Saturday for its fifth and final two-a-day of fall camp. The first practice is slated for 8:20 a.m

canechic

CGNC- He sounded to me like the most reasonable of all the "outsiders" interviewed. And I have heard too many just hating, to me he did not seem like a hater.

I have to tell you I am very disappointed with the school and with Donna and you all know how much I do love her. I am sad that I have to be disappointed. This clown should not have been on the campus. If everyone said he was sooo bad give him his money back and tell him to stay away.


Anyway I thought he was pretty level headed and not Mark May like.

mi@mic@ne

The Beast on allcanes radio who has been close to the program talks about the Shapiro stuff. http://www.allcanes.com/radio/20110818.mp3

j.w.

Nigerian, I understand, and it's just one of those things that us "somewhat old" folks haven't heard before. I cringe whenever the N word or any offshoot of it is used. I sent a text to Gottlieb of ESPN radio this morning telling him his comments were way over the line as well- saying Historically black colleges were not as good as any of the NCAA FBS schools. Really, Gottlieb: Moorehead isn't at least on par with West Virginia? Didn't realize he was running for President of the John Birch society.

canesfan5

cc Shapiro has pictures of himself and Eric Holder. Should the Attorney Genral be in trouble for it. He was in the pic he must of known about the ponzi scheme. Well of course he didn't no and I would say the staff at UM did not know either.

alf

Stork I love you too. Want to go for drink big guy??

I heard there will be some kind of announcement this evening at some point. Not sure if it is true.

Also heard the AJ 4 and J12 are definately guilty.

Yahoo was begging this guy for months to give him information and Scampiro kept denying him. Why all of a sudden the he accept his offer?

Either a) yahoo paid him a lot of money. b) it took this guy shapiro a long to think what he was going to say.

The NCAA has to put miami on probation no matter what. They are forced to because of how big news this is.

NCAA should find out what current players broke the rules so UM can kicked them off the team. But NCAA should take a long time and investigate everything from head to toe. Even if it takes a year or 2

The Hurricanes changed college football in the 80's had rules made for them in the 90's
Now they will make the NCAA change their entire policy.

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