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September 21, 2011

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NativeCane

1st?

SOUP

NativeCane is back in action! I can't wait to hang out with U at the FSU game in Tally.

NativeCane

I'm pumped SOUP, thanks for the invite. Ms. Native is thrilled, and as we watched the end of FSU vs Oklahoma she said "We can beat those Noles".

Go Canes!!!

mrsg

What's tha deal with Ben Jones

Gin & Tonic

Under Shannon, the team always seemed to relax after a big win and come out flat and lose to an underdog, what is the level of focus around the team with K-state coming into town? Are we in for a let down or a focused effort?

usagainsttheworld

Lamar Miller. Killian cougars in the house!

SOUP

Huh, wonder what happened to Chris? Let me check and come back...

ChrisWittyngham

Taking questions now.

elliott

4. Boyz want me to tell you they love how other bloggers bring it but they aint poppin that CGNC from #1 spot!


All from a pic? If I post a pic of my girl bet you a 100 dollars it would top that.

usagainsttheworld

So glad to hear that big Sean is coming back. What's being said about when he will be ready to play?

ChrisWittyngham

From Gin & Tonic

Under Shannon, the team always seemed to relax after a big win and come out flat and lose to an underdog, what is the level of focus around the team with K-state coming into town? Are we in for a let down or a focused effort?

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Al Golden is talking like Oklahoma is coming in and they're 10 point underdogs at home. I think he wants the team to play the same week in and week out and is stressing that this is the first normal preparation period they've had all year. Whether or not that translates on to the field remains to be seen

ChrisWittyngham

From usagainsttheworld

So glad to hear that big Sean is coming back. What's being said about when he will be ready to play?

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Golden said he should get back into practice some time next week and for now is wearing the yellow injury jersey. The ideal is to get some playing action against Bethune Cookman to ready him for a full load @ Virginia Tech, but like neck injuries back injuries are sensitive and very tentative. Could be next week, could be 3 weeks from now. You never know

usagainsttheworld

Following the canespacers I have surmised that we are having a hard time recruiting bigtime defensive tackles. I can't remember the last time we sucessfully acquired one. Maybe Forston, but he has underwhelmed me so far. What gives?

SOUP

Chris...After watching Miami for two weeks this season what individual players stand out for U and what surprises U about the Hurricanes as a team?

86Cane

Which UM assistant coach has done the best job so far? U will not believe who I have selected, but U go first!

ChrisWittyngham

From SOUP

Chris...After watching Miami for two weeks this season what individual players stand out for U and what surprises U about the Hurricanes as a team?

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The obvious here is Lamar Miller. My goodness is he outstanding. I saw this coming last year. But after that, it was only one game but Sean Spence's impact has clearly been felt. Jojo Nicolas has also played very well

I'm surprised by how quickly and drastically the special teams improved. They seemed prime for at least calamity per game and everything has been very solid thus far. The unspectacular throwing numbers have not been surprising and the spectacular running numbers weren't either.

86Cane

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ChrisWittyngham

From usagainsttheworld

Following the canespacers I have surmised that we are having a hard time recruiting bigtime defensive tackles. I can't remember the last time we sucessfully acquired one. Maybe Forston, but he has underwhelmed me so far. What gives?

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Not really sure. You look at the long list of d-tackles that have come from UM you'd think there'd be some sort of pipeline but there are some holes in this team left by poor coaching, poor recruiting, and poor development. I imagine depth at every position is something on the Golden agenda. (Crosses fingers NCAA sanctions don't involve losing too many scholarships)

ChrisWittyngham

From 86cane

Which UM assistant coach has done the best job so far? U will not believe who I have selected, but U go first!

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In my opinion, a coach is judged from week to week and in-game adjustments. Only a certain amount of preparation can prepare you for a game and in game and after a game is when coaches work is most necessary. By that criteria, defensive backs coach Paul Williams certainly earns my award for that. After his defensive backfield got decimated in week 1, they held bauserman/miller to a historically horrific passing effort. That's laudable in my opinion

86Cane

Ojomo was interviewed today and when asked about what makes LM#6 so good he said:

"He's just a natural. It all comes so easy to him."

Do U think that he can maintain his health this season and be INVITED to The Heisman awards where Justin Antweil lives (bastard!)

3G Cane

Chris- How much of a challenge do you think K State poses?

ChrisWittyngham

From 86cane

Ojomo was interviewed today and when asked about what makes LM#6 so good he said:

"He's just a natural. It all comes so easy to him."

Do U think that he can maintain his health this season and be INVITED to The Heisman awards where Justin Antweil lives (bastard!)

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I don't know. A lot of quality candidates. He may not even be the most qualified at his position as Marcus Lattimore of South Carolina and LaMichael James of Oregon are very well qualified not to mention the quarterbacks that are the ones likeliest to win the award anyway, it seems like a long shot now. However, he does have the talent to be there if he can do what he did against Ohio State every week. At the very least, he has next year before he goes to the pros (no question in my mind he leaves early).

86Cane

Chris...My pick for assistant coach so far is...wait for it...wait for it...Michael Barrow!

Special teams has been lights out with two completely new key players (Botts and Wieclaw) and kick coverage has been excellent. Replacing Bosher was a KEY concern going into 2011 and that has been put to rest so far.

Now IF they can get a few returns going (they will against KSU, I have that as a fact) then Barrow will be a MAJOR factor in the Canes 2011 season.

ChrisWittyngham

From 86cane

Chris...My pick for assistant coach so far is...wait for it...wait for it...Michael Barrow!

Special teams has been lights out with two completely new key players (Botts and Wieclaw) and kick coverage has been excellent. Replacing Bosher was a KEY concern going into 2011 and that has been put to rest so far.

Now IF they can get a few returns going (they will against KSU, I have that as a fact) then Barrow will be a MAJOR factor in the Canes 2011 season.

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Thought that's where that was going. Would like to get the return game going, especially in punts, but I can't argue with you

86Cane

Chris...Canespace is proud to be a (small) sponsor of WVUM and your coverage of UM football games. Can U share a little about WVUM sports talk shows and their topics, days and times that they air? How can we call in, ask questions and participate?

ChrisWittyngham

86Cane

Chris...Canespace is proud to be a (small) sponsor of WVUM and your coverage of UM football games. Can U share a little about WVUM sports talk shows and their topics, days and times that they air? How can we call in, ask questions and participate?

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First, we appreciate you guys being a part of WVUM and underwriting our Football pregame show, which went very well this past week. Thanks to all our listeners, I was told we did well above normal for football this past Saturday

As for our talk shows, here is the schedule

Ibis Sports Weekly- Fridays from 6-7 PM
WVUM Sports Saturday- Saturdays from 12-1 PM
Beyond The Scope- Sundays from 12-1 PM

You can call our shows via our phone number 786-30-WVUM-1 (786-309-8861) and that is also how you can text the show. That is a google voice account so it accepts our calls and texts.

SOUP

CANESPACERS...POST YOUR QUESTIONS NOW!

ChrisWittyngham

From SOUP

CANESPACERS...POST YOUR QUESTIONS NOW!

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What he said

pbcfrcane13

What will have to happen for Golden to bench J12?

pbcfrcane13

RE watching both games to me other then the "operations" Morris to me had the better game

SOUP

Chris...we have heard that Forston is not 100% after the knee injury. Do U see him walking around campus healthy or limping?

What about #77? Has he really dropped 40 pounds and would U challenge him to a fight now that he is a LIGHTWEIGHT? LOL

3G Cane

Chris- How much of a challenge do you think K State poses?

Posted by: 3G Cane

pbcfrcane13

What will happen to the D and playing time when Ray Ray and OV come back who will be the odd men out?

ChrisWittyngham

From pbcfrcane13

What will have to happen for Golden to bench J12?

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Many interceptions, minimal production, many losses. Basically, catastrophe. Golden believe in Jacory and wants him to succeed

pbcfrcane13

Wow all that to sit J12....when he had the same game as Morris...must be doing stuff we as fans cant see....Yes J12 beat a better team, but had a better team behind him and at home.

ChrisWittyngham

From pbcfrcane13

RE watching both games to me other then the "operations" Morris to me had the better game

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I agree with you. Morris has the better quarterback physical skill set, but apparently Golden has either placed a value on experience and his command of the operation. I don't think he wants the quarterback to win or lose the game and with that running game, I don't necessarily disagree either.

ChrisWittyngham

From SOUP

Chris...we have heard that Forston is not 100% after the knee injury. Do U see him walking around campus healthy or limping?

What about #77? Has he really dropped 40 pounds and would U challenge him to a fight now that he is a LIGHTWEIGHT? LOL

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I think Forston is fine. Not 100% because those are delicate injuries but I haven't seen anything that would suggest otherwise. Plus I don't see many football players around campus due to practice. They do a lot of summer school so their coursework load isn't as intense during the fall. You see baseball players in the fall and football players in the spring

And if Seantrel can contribute this season that's more than I would have expected. Still would fight him, slip in my own urine, and concuss myself before the fight would start

pbcfrcane13

Ah Ive been a J12 fan forevever, but he was throwing a lot of he's passes of his back foot....did the injuries (Thumb, Shoulder,head) just take a tool on him and his mind? Watching interviews and play on the field has changed so much.....AH....What do you guys her about Ryan Williams and he's chances to play here at the U

ChrisWittyngham

Posted by: 3G Cane

Chris- How much of a challenge do you think K State poses?

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Not much at all. Miami is a 13 point favorite. They're a team that perennially wins 6 or 7 games every year. However, the are a division one team so they shouldn't be taken lightly. Miami is better and should win handily

ChrisWittyngham

From pbcfrcane13

What will happen to the D and playing time when Ray Ray and OV come back who will be the odd men out?

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Nicolas would move back to corner for Ray Ray, so maybe Lee Chambers sees a reduced role. Vernon would move back to starting DE, so that moves Marcus Robinson or Andrew Smith back. Those guys will still play, but perhaps at a reduced role

Canes411

Chris - as a Journalism student... Do you now see how inappropriate it was for Yahoo Charlie to include unsubstantiated accusations about abortions and prostitutes in his TMZ style sensational hack job? I know when the piece first came out you guys were in awe but alot of us cautioned you to take a closer look?

ChrisWittyngham

From pbcfrcane13

Wow all that to sit J12....when he had the same game as Morris...must be doing stuff we as fans cant see....Yes J12 beat a better team, but had a better team behind him and at home. Ah Ive been a J12 fan forevever, but he was throwing a lot of he's passes of his back foot....did the injuries (Thumb, Shoulder,head) just take a tool on him and his mind? Watching interviews and play on the field has changed so much.....AH....What do you guys her about Ryan Williams and he's chances to play here at the U

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I actually thought he was the same guy. Mentioned more than once on the broadcast that he looked like he was reacting instead of anticipating again. He completes the throw to Byrd that ended up being an interception if he throws it earlier. Quarterbacks need to be cerebral enough to see throws before they happen or have enough arm strength to get the ball to a receiver even if he sees it a second late. Right now, I don't think Jacory has either, but that's just my analysis from my view in the press box and I would love to sit with a coach and him explain to me how I'm wrong. I think right now they just trust Jacory more to run the offense, which isn't unfair, but I don't think he's the better pocket passer.

By the way, I love talking to Jacory. He's the best interview by far on the team even at a position as personality-deprived as that one and I root for that guy to succeed so much. He's clearly grown as a human being and shows so much maturity and candor and clearly has an unparalleled fondness for his teammates.

As for Ryan Williams, I haven't seen much of him, but I imagine he and Stephen will compete for the job. I hope Stephen takes this experience and focuses more on learning what it takes to run an offense well. I feel like they've had to teach him that and that's why they probably trust Jacory more because he knows how to do that by now.

I love quarterback talk by the way. I like talking about the important positions

ChrisWittyngham

From Canes411

Chris - as a Journalism student... Do you now see how inappropriate it was for Yahoo Charlie to include unsubstantiated accusations about abortions and prostitutes in his TMZ style sensational hack job? I know when the piece first came out you guys were in awe but alot of us cautioned you to take a closer look?

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I'm very conflicted on this. I remember how physically ill I felt after reading that story, but I quickly moved on to processing the details. I don't think enough of how he got the information was included in the story, but unfortunately when your dealing with delicate information like this people are reluctant to reveal their identity. I will tell you this, Robinson's body of work is impeccable and other journalists how have taken out a career in this field and have studied this took it seriously.

I think Canes fans have misplaced their anger here. They blamed the messenger, which was unnecessary. I think the two concerns here should have been 1. How did this happen? and 2. Is this relevant and salient enough to justify legitimate NCAA penalty?

As for the abortion stuff, it's a very heavy accusation to lob, but from talking to the editor of that story on the radio and listening to every interview robinson and the yahoo staff did that week, I think they were very judicious about what they put in. They probably had tons more that they didn't put in, so I think that what they did put in there was for the most part true, as proven by the NCAA penalties to the current players

pbcfrcane13

Everything you said I agree! I root for J12, it just seems like he doesnt have the faith in himself. He can say it all he wants that he does, but play on the field says other wise. Also watching the game J12 starred down his WR....again I want j12 to kill it his senior year. Just after one game.....hmmm not sure about him anymore...but hey Ill be there at 330 section 127 row 8 aisle seat cheering him and the rest of them on!

www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000117339359

12 or 17 and why after both showed there stripes?


RCCF 12%

ChrisWittyngham

From pbcfrcane13

Everything you said I agree! I root for J12, it just seems like he doesnt have the faith in himself. He can say it all he wants that he does, but play on the field says other wise. Also watching the game J12 starred down his WR....again I want j12 to kill it his senior year. Just after one game.....hmmm not sure about him anymore...but hey Ill be there at 330 section 127 row 8 aisle seat cheering him and the rest of them on!

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I'll be up in broadcast booth b. I won't be calling the game however. Mike Weisman, Adam Berger, and Alex Schwartz will. Best seats in the house we have. Listen to the game on WVUM! 90.5 FM or wvum.org

3G Cane

Chris- I agree. Jacory's problem isnt so much the arm strength, its the lack of anticipation. Everyone in the stadium saw how open Byrd was but J12 took too long to throw it there. Do you think it has become a mental issue with him where he thinks too much about throwing the INT now?

ChrisWittyngham

12 or 17 and why after both showed there stripes?


RCCF 12%

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I still believe in Stephen Morris and I thought the first two games proved it. Very different defense, but the things I liked about Stephen showed, and the thinks I didn't trust about Jacory didn't show. However, Golden and Fisch want a game manager, which may not be the worst thing.

pbcfrcane13

Listening to Irvin and Randall Hill this week they both said that J12 picks seem to be on the corner route....which they said it seems like he cant make the throw so just dont ask him to make that throw.

SOUP

Listen to the game on WVUM! 90.5 FM or wvum.org

Posted by: ChrisWittyngham | September 21, 2011 at 09:22 PM

I agree 100%!

Chris thanks for your time here tonight.

GO CANES, GO CANESPACE, GO WVUM!!!

ChrisWittyngham

From 3G Cane

Chris- I agree. Jacory's problem isnt so much the arm strength, its the lack of anticipation. Everyone in the stadium saw how open Byrd was but J12 took too long to throw it there. Do you think it has become a mental issue with him where he thinks too much about throwing the INT now?

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Also saw it on the sideline throw to Hurns that ended up being intercepted. It's actually the same problem Chad Henne has with the Dolphins (I know I opened of can of worms. He's my least favorite athlete in sports) and that problem is that he has to be certain the throw will be there before he throws it. In a sport that fast, if you're a second late, it's catastrophic. Especially without the arm strength

ChrisWittyngham

Thanks for stopping by Canes fans. If you have any left over questions, email them to me at sports@wvum.org

3G Cane

Chris-J12 is on his 3rd OC since he arrived. That has to have hindered his development in certain areas, dont you think?

pbcfrcane13

Ill take what Morris can give me with his arm and let him get playing time....im ok with a7-6 8-4 season to give morris some PT to get ready for next year.....I also understand as a first time coach any way Golden is going with J12 because the players want J12 more?

KLCaneFan

Nice Q & A session.

Sorry I missed it.

Canes411

Chris might be gone... But to justify the stuff about prostitution and abortions being printed with zero evidence by saying that "the NCAA penalized the current players, so accusations were for the most part true" is completely wrong.

Agree to disagree...

solarcane

When The NCAA packs up none of Jacory's games will have ever happened anyway.
I think Morris should be out there learning to manage games.

Charlie Brown

I think Morris should be out there learning to manage games.

Posted by: solarcane | September 21, 2011 at 09:41 PM

I think if U did a POLL 60% or more of Canes fan would want M17 over J12.

But we ain't coaching the team and I think Golden thinks that J12 is the glue that holds this team together and also gives him the BEST chance to win TODAY so he is going with it knowing that they aren't winning any championships this year or next.

IF the NCAA spanks us hard then he realizes it could be a five year plan not a two year plan.

3G Cane

Chris might be gone... But to justify the stuff about prostitution and abortions being printed with zero evidence by saying that "the NCAA penalized the current players, so accusations were for the most part true" is completely wrong.

Agree to disagree...

Posted by: Canes411
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You and me both...

chicago-cane80

Got in late. Sorry I missed trhe Q@A
session. Good questions and great answers.

solarcane

Great session tonight
enjoyed the info and comments

KLCaneFan

Canes411 their explanation for printing that garbage was ridiculous.

solarcane

411 those KS fans on Twitter are a riot

#1 defense in the nation, against who a couple high school teams?

solarcane

http://twitpic.com/6oi40u

KSU fans loading for Miami.

^^my comment
" oh thats your truck, I thought it was The KSU football program trophy case"

KLCaneFan

lmao solar i thought it was the team bus

solarcane

Kl those guys are a riot, talking like they have beaten somebody.

KLCaneFan

but they have... haven't they? ;)

solarcane

I guess in their minds they have.
I think we are way to fast for those kids.

KLCaneFan

Uh huh.

I wonder how that #1 defense is going to like our afternoon South Florida heat?

Meh, I'm sure they'll be just fine chasing Miller around for 4 quarters.

KLCaneFan

Is it Saturday yet?

TonyCane

Is Bryce Brown their starter? How is he doing?

dj moonbat

Is Bryce Brown their starter? How is he doing?

Posted by: TonyCane | September 21, 2011 at 10:52 PM


No. He's doing badly.

canechic

In Eugene! Lots of Yellow and Green :)

KLCaneFan

Have fun, canechic! :)

3G Cane

In Eugene! Lots of Yellow and Green :)

Posted by: canechic
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Say hi to my sister!

TLuv

nice Q&A tonight, too bad I missed it

3G Cane

Wasnt aware K State eeked out a win against Eastern Kentucky... QB is the biggest threat in the running game, not exactly a good passer. When we get the lead and they are forced to pass the DB's should be able to rack up some pics...

Charlie Brown

Jennifer Capriatti

Felipe

Agree to disagree...

Posted by: Canes411
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You and me both...


Posted by: 3G Cane | September 21, 2011 at 09:56 PM

Thirded.

ChrisWittyngham

About my Robinson answer,

I mentioned the part about the allegations being true so as to prove that the article wasn't entirely made up like certain canes fans were claiming. I don't think the abortion claim would have been printed (considering how delicate that was) without definitive proof. The point is that we don't know what the proof is and without that knowledge I don't really want to pass judgment on that being a baseless claim

Felipe

btw, when someone propagates information that suggests something extraordinary, which has been unsubstantiated, and is unsubstant_iable_--like the prostitution and abortion stuff--it isn't blaming the messenger and we aren't "wrong." We're blaming the propagator of irresponsible bs.

Felipe

I doubt there's ever going to be any agreement on how deep the rabbit hole went, as far as violations go, until the evidence (if concrete and substantive, as I presume it not to be--evidence has to be, well, _evident_) is put forth. In any event I appreciate your journalistic viewpoint Chris and I think it's a huge tension point, a microcosm of the issue of journalistic responsibility. Duty to print X because of weight it carries vs. duty to withhold printing X due to weight it carries.

Thanks for your time Chris!

SJMPARMAN

Chrsi

If this article had been just about trips to strip clubs, or other benefits, and did not include an "abortion" allegation, would it have sold? The abortion allegation was ridiculously shakey, based ONLY on Shapiro's statement, and no reputable newspaper would have published it. Without DNA evidence from the reputed father, how can anyone say a prostitutes pregancy is due to any one man 2 months after the alleged incident? That is what makes the story suspect, because she worked at least 4 or 5 days a week thereafter.

College football players going to strip clubs is nothing new. It is rarely documented for sure, but it happens everywhere. Smart boosters pay cash. It happens. I am not saying it is right or anything but it happens.

That is why we are not in "kill the messenger" mode but we do argue that such an inflammatory allegation should not have been printed without cooboration, which, in the case of this allegation, was only that Shapiro told his girlfriend that he spent the money for that reason. But whatever. If you choose to believe that everything Shapiro said was true, and Charles Robinson should win some journalism of the year award for making such a serious, defamatory allegation without sufficient proof, then so be it. I just think our football players deserve more support given the lack of proof.

On a football note, this is a good read about the Wildcats and their plans for the game.
http://www.kansas.com/2011/09/20/2025644/kansas-state-ponders-was-to-add.html

SJMPARMAN

Sorry, I misspelled your name.

Montreal-Cane

Susan Miller Degnan = Boring and dump as ever...Lucky to be on the payroll at the Herald. We don't learn much from her, do we?
She has to write about the same stories and repeat the same lines over and over, ask stupid questions to coaches and players. She likes the negative stuff...
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/09/22/2418100/luther-campbell-sues-former-university.html

Manny is the best...We get a lot of info from him.

Montreal-Cane

Posted by: SJMPARMAN | September 22, 2011 at 12:58 AM

Very well said!

Montreal-Cane

Posted by: Montreal-Cane | September 22, 2011 at 03:29 AM

It can be both dumb or dump for Susan...Lol...

SailorCane

Agree to disagree...

Posted by: Canes411
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You and me both...


Posted by: 3G Cane | September 21, 2011 at 09:56 PM

Thirded.

^^^^^fourthed

canechic

Thanks guys today is going to be a busy day.....3G does your sister live around campus?

If the school gets sanctions, I am sure the abortion part will play a very little role. Strippers, drugs, and abortions do however sell magazines. People can't get enough of these over sensationalized stories but get bored of them just as quickly. Notice how this story really just kinda died out.

We will get sanctions because of @sses like Hurtt and Holcutt.

Hurri

Excellent Q & A session

That was some good stuff going on last night.

(That's an alley-oop, by the way.....)

Ohio_Cane

K-State fans got their chests all pumped up about their "#1 D in the nation". Lamar and this O will deflate that quickly.

Getting that confident against those 2 opponents is like winning the special olympics with no disability. It just makes U look stupid.

Ohio_Cane

K-State fans got their chests all pumped up about their "#1 D in the nation". Lamar and this O will deflate that quickly.

Getting that confident against those 2 opponents is like winning the special olympics with no disability. It just makes U look stupid.

Ohio_Cane

^^ Blah, double post...

Usagainsttheworld

No way I would take Stephen over Mackey at this point. J12 looks much more comfortable in the offense and seems to be managing "the process" better. If we can get him to make quicker decisions on the deep ball we will be in business.

Hope he doesn't make me eat my words!

KLCaneFan

Or look like a Nole fan...

Pahrump pum!

solarcane

sjm,
great comment, you explained the way most of us felt about the abortion reference when we read the yahoo article, felipe was spot on too.

Ohio_Cane

Jorge Milian - Dalton Botts is punting away UM's worries about replacing Matt Bosher. http://bit.ly/pzUGXr

solarcane

Pahrump pum!

Posted by: KLCaneFan | September 22, 2011 at 09:32 AM

Best spelling of a rimshot I ever saw!

that or a fat guy falling off a bar stool.

Ohio_Cane

Hurricane Sports - UM Sports Hall of Fame announces 2012 Class - includes NFL stars Ed Reed and Bryant McKinnie and women's tennis coach Paige Yaroshuk-Tews

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