The Short List To The Superdome: Week 14

Championship week arrives as the regular season concluded in 2011 and the Shortlist is down to a six pack of contenders who read by order of crystal football worthiness as follows:

LSU, Houston, Alabama, Stanford, Virginia Tech and Oklahoma State.

The only team I called for to be eliminated last week not only survived, but thrived as they clinched their division in dominating fashion:

Virginia Tech uses a fourth and one from the one goal-line stand to ignite the 38-0 route in Charlottesville over Virginia to take home the Governors Cup and set up a rematch date in attempt to avenge their season's only loss. How a win there would keep them behind Alabama in line to face LSU escapes me, until you look at the non-conference schedules of the two teams and realize a win over even an uninspiring Penn State squad before they plunged into the current embroiling worst scandal in college athletics history trumps a schedule that highlights Marshall out of conference.

In conjunction with that predictive misfire, one team falls from the Shortlist to the Superdome without me calling for them to as well:

Arkansas jumps out to an early lead only to learn the lesson that the number one team in the country isn't just going to roll over and play dead as they fall to LSU in Baton Rouge 41-17. The Razorbacks are left wondering what might have been if Knile Davis hadn't been taken out for the year before the season as a returning first team SEC running back is just the kind of weapon one could rely on to keep an early two touchdown lead on the road to upset a top ranked team to close out November.

I expect only one team to find themselves eliminated from the running at the finish line:

Virginia Tech.

The old adage of it being difficult to beat a team twice in a season hasn't held up recently in conference championship games and it's easier to win at a neutral site than on the road. Add in the fact that Clemson has played a tougher schedule this year and the fourth time might finally end up being the charm for my prediction of the Hokie's elimination from the Shortlist.

As 2011 comes to a close and bowl bids are sent out, half of the teams remaining on the Shortlist have the advantage of not having to play for a championship in an extra game. How that helps them prove their worthiness to play for a national championship only if they are from the SEC West is a question not easily answered once you take into account that Houston faces their second most difficult test back to back after dispatching their most difficult one in relatively easy fashion this week.

Why a special teams battle being lost speaks highly for Alabama more than Houston's continued offensive fireworks keeping them unbeaten can only be accounted for due to entrenched biases and affiliation for a certain strain of the color red rather than honest evaluation of merit.

Maybe if the hottest team in the country claims an SEC title for the eastern division we'll be rewarded with something other than a snooze inducing rematch for division bragging rights?

Help us Mark Richt, you're our only hope.

Copyright 2011 by Christopher Whelpton for Canespace.com

Comments

[usafcane]

1st

[SOUP]

Miami average points per season:

Year, Points For, Points Allowed

1996: 31-18
1997: 29-26
1998: 37-25
1999: 33-17
2000: 42-16
2001: 43-10
2002: 41-19
2003: 28-15
2004: 32-17
2005: 27-15
2006: 20-15
2007: 21-26
2008: 27-24
2009: 30-22
2010: 26-21
2011: 27-20

Posted by: TonyCane | November 28, 2011 at 10:23 PM

Once we get out PF over 31 and our PA under 20 then we will be back.

[SOUP]

If VT wins the ACC title game would they move up the BCS standings enough so they could play LSU for the title?

[2002nemo]

No!

[SOUP]

WURD ON DA SKREETZ IZ...

1. I dont see any reason for Lamar coming back next year. To many goons here blastin me for saying that. The little things he needs work on can be perfected at the next level. If I was asked, which I wont be but I would tell him to head to NFLU.

2. Streets is hypin himself up like hes 1st round ready. Playah went from a humble ballah to ego trippin in about 2 weeks.

3. I fully expect Boom to check on his status. BWash, Vern, RayRay will test it also and maybe Ojomo because boi aint sure about him getting that RS.

4. Goons in this area tellin me Al has been very honest and straight forward when hittin up recruits and bois respecting that.

5. Damn bruh, 3 more teams offering my man D'Mauri Jones. Sh$# I hope Miami can hold on with freak.

[UpNorthCane]

Firstt ...

[Ohio_Cane]

SOUP - No chance

Also, hearing Dan Mullen headed to PSU for HC job. Just rumor at this point

[Ohio_Cane]

Also, hearing Dan Mullen headed to PSU for HC job. Just rumor at this point

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | November 29, 2011 at 08:49 PM
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Nevermind. Guess Mullen denied it. But so did Urban about OSU lol

[UpNorthCane]

My fault def not first my iphone just didnt refresh loll.....

My boy Al Golden will kill it these last couple weeks in recruiting i think we will have some surprises people ala jalen grimble from last year.

[Hassan]

Wow I knew Streets would be like that, he might as well go if he stops working, but he WILL NOT be a 1st rounder and will be eating humble pie.

[WindyCane-Forecast1]

Anthony Chickillo finished third in ACC Rookie of the Year voting behind winner Merrill Noel of Wake Forest and FSU's Timothy Jernigan.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | November 29, 2011 at 03:57 PM

Top three rookies are from the State of Fla. Good news for Chick. Well-deserved. Perryman also deserves respect. How did we miss out on Noel? UM could have used a good CB.

[UMike]

Anyone know who Rivals is talking about with a "Recruiting Coup"

[SOUP]

Canes basketball getting schooled by Purdue in ACC-Big 10 challenege game @ Purdue.

Boilermakers up by 12 at the half.

[Ohio_Cane]

SOUP, yep, I already switched to OSU/Duke.

[Ohio_Cane]

Anyone know who Rivals is talking about with a "Recruiting Coup"

Posted by: UMike | November 29, 2011 at 09:51 PM
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Prob FSWho lol

[Cat6]

Hey "soup" - do you run this blog? I don't post here often but I read it all the time. Any chance you could stop forwarding that fake nonsense from "skreetz"? It's embarrassing to read, clearly just some j*ckoff trying to use absurd lingo that you couldn't even find on MySpace to make his thoughts seem more "legitimate".

I mean, "goons", "bruh", "boi"? Come on man, it really takes away from what is otherwise an excellent blog.

It's just kind of embarrassing to think that people could be reading this and assume that all UM fans were that pathetic and fake.

[UpNorthCane]

Manny reporting al golden n staff contacted norland highschool football coach about getting keith brown back.... What do yall think?

[Ohio_Cane]

Trolls will be trolls?

[Ohio_Cane]

Manny reporting al golden n staff contacted norland highschool football coach about getting keith brown back.... What do yall think?

Posted by: UpNorthCane | November 29, 2011 at 10:16 PM
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I think I hope they get him

[Q]

rivals...
Venice highs, Danny Dillard rb commuted to Miami and his teammates. Dante Phillips 6'6'' 268 DT commited to UF and OK Forrest Lamp to visit this week. Phillips has Miami offer if the visit is good he said he may commit and Lamp has been talking to Kehoe if transcripts are in order he would be offered and will commit he says. they want to play together in college

[Q]

not sure why Marcus Forston wouldn't want to be back and have one great year of football at Miami and I can't believe streeter...wow.

did anybody watch raising canes on Jacory? how that cook wrote in sauce on his plate "no ints" wow. I laughed and got very upset

[Montreal-Cane]

Canes Basketball link

http://nowwatchtvlive.com/2011/07/espn2-hd-live-watch-online-espn2-hd-espn2-nba-online/

[Montreal-Cane]

Canes BB ugliest uniform ever. No names on the back a la Shannon.

[VA Cane]

Here we go again...get rid of the trolls they are A holes. Hope all you put in a good word with The Almighty for Matoaca to win the SB....we are ready baby. I do not like to prepare to hate people on the field...just hit them hard over and over and over...never say a word, give them the Manson stare and never ever help them up...let them use their own energy.

Hey we should all feel good.....we are going to suck at basketball too....dont feel bad, it is a girls game....for those who shy away form the contact sport...lol

[VA Cane]

I hate ...I mean hate the NBA....have despised it forever...I really wish they would go on strike......and fold forever. They suck as a league, as teams, their players are pathetic....cant name many of them.....I swear, of all the leagues.....I hate them the most...Lebron, Mello, Magic, Howard....I just despise NBA and wish it could.....self destruct......I was hoping that it was going to do so with this strike.....losers I respect none of them....go away.....

[TonyCane]

For those of you asking that the bowl game against Notre Dame be removed because Shannon did not coach it, very well. Adjusted PF, PA averages:

Miami average points per season:

Year, Points For, Points Allowed

1996: 31-18
1997: 29-26
1998: 37-25
1999: 33-17
2000: 42-16
2001: 43-10
2002: 41-19
2003: 28-15
2004: 32-17
2005: 27-15
2006: 20-15
2007: 21-26
2008: 27-24
2009: 30-22
2010: 27-20
2011: 27-20

Or, more indicative perhaps is the regular season average:

Miami average points per season (excluding bowls):

Year, Points For, Points Allowed

1996: 31-17
1997: 29-26
1998: 37-25
1999: 34-17
2000: 43-15
2001: 43-9
2002: 42-18
2003: 29-15
2004: 32-18
2005: 29-12
2006: 20-15
2007: 21-26
2008: 28-24
2009: 32-22
2010: 27-20
2011: 27-20

Like a previous poster said, the Canes should be fine once we get the PA average down below 20. Amazing how it shot up after the DC became head coach.

[Hassan]

Hey "soup" - do you run this blog? I don't post here often but I read it all the time. Any chance you could stop forwarding that fake nonsense from "skreetz"? It's embarrassing to read, clearly just some j*ckoff trying to use absurd lingo that you couldn't even find on MySpace to make his thoughts seem more "legitimate".

I mean, "goons", "bruh", "boi"? Come on man, it really takes away from what is otherwise an excellent blog.

It's just kind of embarrassing to think that people could be reading this and assume that all UM fans were that pathetic and fake.

Posted by: Cat6 | November 29, 2011 at 10:15 PM

Bruh lol I promise u the man is a real person and it is a real cane insider, i personally love how he talks and think it is funny, and yeah people talk like that.

This is my fav "blob"

[TonyCane]

Actually, to rephrase I would say once the points allowed goes below 20 and points scored goes above 30 we should be in good shape.

[SOUP]

It's just kind of embarrassing to think that people could be reading this and assume that all UM fans were that pathetic and fake.

Posted by: Cat6 | November 29, 2011 at 10:15 PM

I'm going to take U as serious and NOT a troll (for now) so I'll reply in kind:

Sorry U don't like or appreciate Da Skreetz. Just skip past it if U don't like it but I will tell U it as REAL as real gets.

I could translate it into the Queen's English for U if it would make U feel better but then it would lose all of it's flavor and authenticity so let's just leave it as is, OK?

Now why don't U try a real post that contributes something TO the blog instead of just coming on to complain and to try to take something AWAY from the blog?

Blog on "Cat6", blog on...

[Q]

I like streets. I'm black and I have Alot of family in southern. Florida and they talk like that. his info Is the real deal

[SOUP]

Oh and BTW "Cat6", maybe try a REAL email address next time U post a comment so we know U are an authentic Canes fan and NOT a troll.

This time U used: cheesytimes@aol.com?

Really? REALLY???

[Felipe]

If we land Lamp that'll put a few up in arms around here, lol. 2* Recruit. Phillips committed to Florida back when Urban was coaching, wouldnt be shocked if he commits to us along with McCord. Couple of 4*, DT/LB for you star-lovin folk.

[Felipe]

Randy Edsall sounds exactly like a low yield Tom Coughlin. Would never ever want to play for him or have him as my coach. (Google all of the articles calling for his firing after one year. Pretty intense anger at the control freak)

[Usagainsttheworld]

^^^This ain't true right?

Meaning this isn't really solar and cc making this post?

[SOUP]

Us against...we have been through this already: OF COURSE NOT! It is a troll and a hater that is all.

I'll talk to Manny.

[Usagainsttheworld]

Cool. Thanks Soup. Pardon that I even brought it up.

[orange 'n green in the vein]

Got to love the turd trolls playing their natural role, dumb.

"I er, I read all the time here but NEVAR post, SOUP, you run this place . . . riiiiight????"

Keep playing stupid like that up and you'll be right in line to get hired by Beaver Tooth Foley to replace Muschump in a year and a half in the weak half of the line of scrimage league.

cheesytimes@A(lice's)O(ily)L(agoon) indeed.

[raizecane]

For those of you who were wanting Randy Edsall over Al Golden.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHA and shame on you.

Soup - how many drinks did you have when you asked if VT won the ACC, they could possibly play for the NC?? Rumor has it that LSU can lose to Georgia and still play in the NCG along with Bama who is not even in the conference championship game. I think only Okie State has an outside shot...

[Felipe]

Sam Acho is scorching it in 'Zona, 2 sacks, 2 ffs last week. Don't remember this guy doing anything in college after being heavily recruitied.

What is it with 4* dudes looking clearly limited in college after being HS impact players, who then graduate to a higher level of football and raise their game to become as impactful as was expected at the college level?

Don't look now but another 0-star (ESPN) unrated wideout looks to be headed to rookie of the year consideration if he can get healthy and put up decent numbers down the stretch. Denarius Moore, Oakland. Or as ESPN recruiting had it, Darnius Moore. Didn't even spell his name right.

[Felipe]

Star system fetishists are going to be shaking their heads if/when four of our ten 4-star dudes can't or don't enroll. Both AJLs (AJ Leggett, A-J-L), Hamilton, and Northrup. Fortunately there are still many opportunities for late flips due to a year-long recruiting campaign mounted by the staff. Wouldn't be shocked if Golden takes the time to suss out some PA-NJ area guys now that the season's over.

What is appealing to so many of these recruits re: FSU? Is it the fact their their academic progress rating is so low that if the reformed standards were enforced by the NCAA today, they wouldn't even qualify to make it to a BCS game, the only team in a BCS conference that this would happen to (LSU and Auburn borderline if I recall)?
Must be all that losing to teams they should beat that has recruits licking their chops.

...

[Texascane]

Orakpo got all the press at Texas...Acho was a dominant player for the Horns...Pros concerned about his speed...his brother Emmanuel still plays at UT...academic Heisman his senior year

[2002nemo]

For the last few years FSu has beat Us on game day and also on national signing day. Have you noticed the trend?
This year, despite oUr best effort, FSu beat Us (again) on game day; and despite oUr best effort, it looks like FSu will beat Us (again) on national signing day.

If U don't beat FSu on national signing days, U won't beat FSu on game days. If, however, U don't beat FSu on game days, U won't beat FSu on national signing days.
Therefore U must find a way to beat FSu on game day (to boost oUr in-state recruiting) or U must find a way to beat FSu on signing day (to give Us an edge on game day).

Success breeds success!

[Cat6]

"Furthermore, in a group that has become sensitized to trolling — where the rate of deception is high — many honestly naïve questions may be quickly rejected as trollings. This can be quite off-putting to the new user who upon venturing a first posting is immediately bombarded with angry accusations."

Not whoever you thought I was and didn't realize so many people enjoyed that "insider" knowledge. I read this and the Miami Herald's UM page, which has recently had a bunch of negative things written about those posts. I assumed it was obvious and offputting to other people as well but apparently I was wrong. Sorry for bringing it up.

[raizecane]

Cat6 - Like Soup / 86 said.......blog away.

[CGNC]

Guys with heart and incredible work ethic and a desire to prove something - those type guys win championships.

Posted by: DallasTX Cane | November 29, 2011 at 05:27 PM

Santana Moss popped into my head!

[CGNC]

Cat6 - while we love Manny and Susan, the comments section is unreadable much of the time at The Herald.

[Ohio_Cane]

Papa Cane - Recruiting Update: Miami has offered Athlete Guito Ervilus - Will visit UM within the next 2 weeks. Recovering from ACL surgery.

[UpNorthCane]

Whats going on Canes world more exciting than canes playing football is canes getting recruits and the whole recruiting aspect of football.....

Soup when you get a chance ask skreetz if hes smacked some sense into streeter and that if he wants big money he will humble up kill it next year and get what we call out here in my "skreetz" dead presidents.....

[Ohio_Cane]

RE: Guito Ervilus... He's 6'5, 225 lbs.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Guito-Ervilus-127289

[Ohio_Cane]

Papa Cane - Here is an “in-progress” list of prospective 2012 student athletes that will be visting the University of Miami this weekend.

LB James Burgess
QB Gray Crow
RB Danny Dillard
RB Duke Johnson
WR D’Mauri Jones
OL/DL Forrest Lamp
OT Ereck Flowers
DT Dante Phillips
DE Tyriq McCord
WR Herb Waters
DE Kaliniasi Leota (JUCO)
DT Junior Salt (JUCO

[UpNorthCane]

If im Al Golden im setting up an Occupy Tracy howard camp outside his home and a Occupy Deon Bush camp until we get their committments we want these kids idc if you believe in stars or not these are game changers.

[Ohio_Cane]

Stephon Diggs trimmed his list to 8. We're not in it.

The 6-foot-1, 190-pound Diggs is still considering Auburn, California, Florida, Maryland, Michigan, Oklahoma, USC and Virginia.

[Sean Spence is a Beast!!!]

I hate ...I mean hate the NBA....have despised it forever...I really wish they would go on strike......and fold forever. They suck as a league, as teams, their players are pathetic....cant name many of them.....I swear, of all the leagues.....I hate them the most...Lebron, Mello, Magic, Howard....I just despise NBA and wish it could.....self destruct......I was hoping that it was going to do so with this strike.....losers I respect none of them....go away.....

Posted by: VA Cane | November 29, 2011 at 10:58 PM

Unfortunately for you it's not going anywhere, fortunately for millions of NBA fans across the world it is here to stay.

[raizecane]

losers I respect none of them....go away.....

Posted by: VA Cane | November 29, 2011 at 10:58 PM

VA - Not sure why you hate all that u mentioned, but I have met Dwight Howard on many occasions, know people who know him personally and he is one of the nicest guys you want to meet....very giving as well. Now if you mentioned Warren Sapp, I would be in your corner.

[Ohio_Cane]

Interesting: LSU Jarrett Lee, others may be ruled academically ineligible for postseason http://bit.ly/rsS3rO

[Ohio_Cane]

Papa Cane - Where In The World Is Coach Golden - Past 24 Hours? Booker T. Washington, Gulliver Prep, and Northwestern HS to name a few

Coach Al Golden was seen yesterday talking to Gulliver Prep Football coaches. From what we are hearing, they talked about Junior WR/DE Stacey Thomas, 6’3” and 210 lbs. We’ve heard that he also talked about RB Bo Ellis Jr.

[Ohio_Cane]

Coach Golden at Miami Central: Discussing DT Jordan Hinojosa, 6’3” and 285 lbs, and OLB Errol Clarke, 6’2” and 205 lbs.

[UMike]

Im liking all the local love..even if it doesnt pay off this year it will down the road

[Ohio_Cane]

Sources: Mike Leach is Washington State's top priority for its head coaching search

[UMike]

Ohio..you got me wanting to get on this twitter thing lol..I got one for my business...but if I get one for me and just follow everyone connected..you get more info that espn lol

[Ohio_Cane]

BC's Luke Kuechly named DPOY

[Ohio_Cane]

you get more info that espn lol

Posted by: UMike | November 30, 2011 at 02:02 PM
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I get it faster than ESPN too! Lol

[UMike]

Ohio...I just set up my account an added a bunch of people lol..whats ur id, or handle?

[UMike]

I think I just started following you

[UMike]

boom_king26 Ray Ray Armstrong
Ain't nothin like dis Miami life

Does that mean he is stayin? lol

[Ohio_Cane]

UMike - Canespace's is 86Cane, my personal one is OhioCane.

RE: Ray Ray, that's probably just him being him on a Wednesday. Lol

[Ohio_Cane]

I asked Jimmy Johnson, "What do U think of the Golden extension?".

He replied "Hope he stays a long time"

[UMike]

Nice..yea I work at home all day or go to school..so I can monitor a lot lol

[Sebastian57]

Six-I hear the Rays signed Jose Molina. Its about time they did something to upgrade the catching position

That is a huge pickup for the Rays and at a very nice price

I see they dumped Jaso to the Mariners

To another sport. It sucks that the mens b-ball team has lost its last 2 games. They really needed them if the `Canes want to see the NCAA tournament

Now they have to face a 5-2 UMass team, a good Memphis team even though they have started slow then hit the road to face West Virginia

The `Canes better pick it up for this 3 game stretch

[herbieibis]

Golden is handing out those Verbal Invites. We are at 27 and I know some will be early entrants, so there will be 5 or 6 told to take a hike, so I'm guessing 33 to 35, newbies. Hello depth, good-bye loafers & non-hackers, & hello 7-5 or 8-4, next year. I can dig it. New blood, with some good stable coaching, things can only go up as long as the NCAA don't lower the boom on us and if they do, then we will take a couple steps back & then come back with a vengence!

[UMike]

The kids that dont make it because of grades and go to prep school..do their scholarships count for this year or when they sign?

[Ohio_Cane]

UMike, I believe only once they sign and play here.

[UMike]

So if Golden and staff know the likes of the AJ's might not get in right now..I wonder if he sees that as 2 open scholarships

[Ohio_Cane]

I gaurantee Golden knows every in and out when it comes to his job. ANY part of his job, including recruiting.

[UMike]

What does RT mean on twitter lol

[UMike]

Ohio..I agree..just wondering how that works..does that free up two scholarships..do you hold them for next year.. etc

[Ohio_Cane]

Miramar's HC - Just told Tracy he is a finalist for the Army player of the year. We just got on the field and #CANES #UNC are here now.

Looks like we're going to see Tracy Howard. Or maybe just some teammates of his. Lol

[Ohio_Cane]

What does RT mean on twitter lol

Posted by: UMike | November 30, 2011 at 03:18 PM
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Re-Tweet. Basically when you're answering someone else, or just reposting it for others to see.

[Ohio_Cane]

Ohio..I agree..just wondering how that works..does that free up two scholarships..do you hold them for next year.. etc

Posted by: UMike | November 30, 2011 at 03:20 PM
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Gotcha. I wouldn't be the guy to answer that lol. I don't pay attention to recruiting rules too much.

[Ohio_Cane]

BREAKING: Mike Leach has verbally agreed to be the head coach at Washington St.

[ftmcane]

Any of you guys know whether we're in on Donaldven Manning out of Central? How did we let VT grab him?

[UMike]

ftm...a lot of these local kids might have been grabbed when RS was here since he neglected just about ever local school except MNW..Golden is fixing those bonds..imo

[Texascane]

BREAKING: Mike Leach has verbally agreed to be the head coach at Washington St. Ohio

Online buying my Cougar gear right now...

[CGNC]

OGV - come down off the ledge - your dream of the pirate docking on the Gables waterway has ended.....officially if Leach signs with Washington State

[ftmcane]

ftm...a lot of these local kids might have been grabbed when RS was here since he neglected just about ever local school except MNW..Golden is fixing those bonds..imo

Posted by: UMike | November 30, 2011 at 03:47 PM

i can't see how a kid wouldn't still be open to Miami, who wants to live in VA for 4 years...What's the word on DT's?

[UMike]

ftm..I feel the same way..but kids these days are different..if you got one school showing you love for a couple years while your "dream" school ignores you..your heart might change...just sayin

[Ohio_Cane]

What's the word on DT's?

Posted by: ftmcane | November 30, 2011 at 04:03 PM
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That 2 are visiting this weekend. Lol

Dante Phillips and Junior Salt (JUCO)

[calGary Cane]

Ohio..I agree..just wondering how that works..does that free up two scholarships..do you hold them for next year.. etc

Posted by: UMike | November 30, 2011 at 03:20 PM

I might be wrong but,
There are 2 limits for the scollies...
85 is the maximum holding at any one time.
25 is the limit per recruiting season.

So between-season recruiting don't count to the recruiting season max. So there is no reason for carrying over, as kids graduate (leave) every year.

[ftmcane]

That 2 are visiting this weekend. Lol

Dante Phillips and Junior Salt (JUCO)

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | November 30, 2011 at 04:05 PM

well, get them signed up Ohio...

[2002nemo]

What about the grey shirts who formally join the team in January? Do they count as 2012 recruits?

[Ohio_Cane]

Starting LB's weight 2011:

Spence-224
Futch-235
Gaines-220
Buchanan-222
Perryman-217

Average of 223 lbs.

In the Past:

Morgan-245
Lewis-230
Vilma-223
DJ-240
Rocky-231

Average of 233 lbs

For comparison; Starting LB's weight average of top three defensive teams in NCAA. All different styles of D:

LSU- 236
Alabama-253
Michigan State-230

[Ohio_Cane]

well, get them signed up Ohio...

Posted by: ftmcane | November 30, 2011 at 04:13 PM
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I'm on it!

[Texascane]

OHIO, do you know anyone at the school to pass some info about a kid that is avaialable (QB)...

[Ohio_Cane]

OHIO, do you know anyone at the school to pass some info about a kid that is avaialable (QB)...

Posted by: Texascane | November 30, 2011 at 04:42 PM
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That might be SOUP's territory, cuz no, I don't.

[CaneRock]

Starting LB's weight 2011:

Spence-224
Futch-235
Gaines-220
Buchanan-222
Perryman-217

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | November 30, 2011 at 04:38 PM

That's not even close to the "208" estimate that Golden made yesterday, the guy was making excuses that DON'T EVEN EXIST. If you look at that list, Futch is the biggest LB, but He wasn't the best...BIGGER doesn't always mean BETTER.

[Texascane]

Soup...do I have your email?

Here's the kid's write up out of HS:

HIGH SCHOOL
Four-star (Scout.com) quarterback from Friendswood High School in Friendswood, Texas ... three-star (Rivals.com) quarterback ... No. 18 dual-threat quarterback in the country, per Rivals.com ... No 9 dual-threat quarterback in the country, according to the Tom Lemming Recruiting Report ... No. 24 overall quarterback nationally, per Scout.com ... No. 102 on the PrepStar Top 105 Dream Team ... No. 64 player on the Superprep Texas 111 ... also the No. 85 overall prospect on the Rivals.com Texas Postseason Top 100 list ... quick delivery and great footwork ... solid athleticism ... solid runner and is comfortable outside the pocket, and in either direction ... threw for 3,291 yards and 38 touchdowns during senior season ... District 24-4A Most Valuable Player and first-team selection ... calm and patient in the pocket, but has good feet and can take off ... solid clock manager ... three-year starter for the varsity ... threw for more than 4,000 yards and 46 touchdowns during sophomore and junior seasons ... Class 4A Academic All-State honorable mention ... clocked at 4.55 in the 40 ... also received offers from Vanderbilt, Arizona, Houston, Louisville, Missouri, Oklahoma, South Florida and Stanford ... accomplished piano player ... High School Coach: Steve Van Meter.

[calGary Cane]

From NCAA.org http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Issues/Recruiting/Football+Recruiting

Football recruiting

Division I Football Bowl Subdivision teams are allowed 85 student-athletes on full scholarships and Football Championship Subdivision teams are allowed 63 scholarship equivalencies, which means the numbers of prospective football student-athletes being recruited annually far exceeds any other sport. The competition for talent can be intense.

Recruiting rules can be complicated. Rules closely govern factors such as when (and how many) official visits can occur, which personnel can recruit off-campus, and how (and when) coaches may communicate with potential recruits.

Division I recently addressed a concern involving the practice of oversigning. Programs were signing many more than the 25 prospective student-athletes they are allowed to carry on scholarships for the entering class. The oversigning was done in anticipation that some of the recruits would not qualify academically or would drop out for another other reason. Because the rules limit the number of student-athletes on scholarship, current or prospective student-athletes could find their scholarships were no longer available.

In January, the Division I Legislative Council approved legislation for Football Bowl Subdivision programs to specify an annual limit of 28 on the number of prospective student-athletes who may sign a National Letter of Intent or an institutional offer of financial aid from the initial signing date of the regular signing period of the National Letter of Intent through May 31. The legislation encourages institutional personnel to discuss academic and admission qualifications of each prospective student-athlete (rather than simply athletics ability) before sending the prospective student-athlete a National Letter of Intent or a written offer of financial aid. The legislation also reduces the number of signed prospective student-athletes signed who are unlikely to meet NCAA academic-eligibility requirements.

[CGNC]

Texas - LOL Golden has twitter so maybe you could get Ohio to tweet that to him or something - cliff note version

[calGary Cane]

What about the grey shirts who formally join the team in January? Do they count as 2012 recruits?

Posted by: 2002nemo | November 30, 2011 at 04:21 PM

I think this answers your question.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/117418-college-football-recruiting-for-beginners-part-iii-oversigning-and-greyshirts

[orange 'n green in the vein]

"OGV - come down off the ledge - your dream of the pirate docking on the Gables waterway has ended.....officially if Leach signs with Washington State

Posted by: CGNC | November 30, 2011 at 04:01 PM"

If there's anybody who can win big in Pullman again in the water downed pac, it just might be the Pirate Captain. But you're trying to tell me he wouldn't jump at the Miami job from WSU CGNC? I beg to differ. He'd be on the next three connection plane route if Miami bought him out and paid his asking price and UM would win at least 9 games a year even in rebuilding years if he got a decent DC.