Size Matters

Now that we have wrapped up and put a pretty little bow on Spring football we want to turn our focus to the high school football recruiting process and one of the many variables in that process:

The measurables (size, weight, strength, speed) for players who will be high school Seniors in 2012 and will be part of the 2013 recruiting class.

So let's pretend for just a moment that you are a college football coach at a major BCS conference school. You are well aware of the fact that recruiting is the life blood of your football program.

Now fast forward to early January, only a month before the annual fiasco know as Hat Picking Day, I mean National Signing Day, as you find yourself on the road somewhere in Florida on the recruiting trail and in hot pursuit of "Joe Stud" high school football player.

Stud you see is one of most highly rated linebackers in the State and he not only has scholarship offers from ever major college in the State but also in the entire Country.

So you check out Joe's high school career statistics along with his academic qualifications and character references and find out that Stud is a player that meets all of your criteria and a player you desperately want on your team.

You quickly discover that the "Big Three" recruiting services, Rivals, Scout and ESPN, all have Joe Stud rated as one of the top 100 players in the Nation.

But something is just not right. Something is simply not adding up.

One recruiting service has Joe listed at 5-11, 215 and running a 4.4 forty.

Another has Stud listed at 6-1, 225 and running a 4.6 forty.

Still another web site has Joe checking in at 6-0, 220 and 4.5 in the forty.

If you have been around a while and have been paying attention then you know that this is how the game is played on every level of football. The facts are surprisingly hard to find in an area that should be very evidence based and not subjective at all.

Is someone out there at Rivals, Scout or ESPN just guessing about these critical measurements? Do they stand next to each other on the sidelines at football camps and say: "Well he looks about 6' and 220 to me, what about to you?" or "That guy wearing #5 just seems really fast to us!"

From high school, to college and all the way up to the NFL, recruiting services and coaches often stretch the truth or in some cases even intentionally provide false and misleading information about the real measurables - the size, weight, strength and speed - of the players who are on their teams or who are being hotly recruited by the major college teams each year.

The fact of the matter is that these measurables of the individual players matter greatly during the recruiting process as college coaches try to determine which of these young people have the best current measurables and also try to estimate which ones have the greatest potential to grow and develop their bodies as they mature into young adults.

What seems to be the case is that certain high school players may have reached their personal peak performance levels too soon. Coaches can sometimes be fooled by players who are extreme weight room junkies and look the part or those who have been playing football for basically their entire lives from Pee Wee to Pop Warner leagues and have matured early.

Some of these players have very possibly already reached their maximum potential and hit the proverbial performance ceiling or wall with no more room to go or grow.

In addition, on the college and professional levels these measurables matter even more so as teams specifically game plan to attack what they see as potential weaknesses on another team with the perceived strengths of their players based on advantages in size, weight, strength or speed at key positions.

The problem is that unless you are actually standing there during the actual measuring process the average fan has no clue about what is or is not true and/or accurate when it comes to a specific players measurables. In fact, the facts may not be known until the public NFL combine when the real truth comes out.

The bottom line is that the measurables - size, weight and speed - matter.

Yet it appears to this fan that sometimes size can be relative and that the true measurables may only be in the eye of the beholder.

Comments

[Ohio_Cane]

South Carolina gets Rivals' Cornerback U in their "Position U" series.

Canes were also mentioned with Bama, Auburn, Boise, FSWho, UGA, Michigan, OSU, and Texas.

[SOUP]

I think many Canes fans are hiding in their closets today after Miami was swept by FSU this weekend. Not much action or traction out there or on the blog.

[SOUP]

We will have several features on 2013 high school recruits and potential UM targets over the next few weeks. Stay tuned...

[Q]

South Carolina for corners.. ? I would have gone with Ohio state

[herbieibis]

Chokaholics, that's our baseball team. A bunch of weak sister hitters and no fielding zeros. It's time for new blood. Morris has gone about as far as he can go. First it was Florida, that broomed us and now FSU, with a mainly a rookie starter pitching staff.

[3G Cane]

Santana Moss!

[Ohio_Cane]

Canes baseball drops to 22 in the AP poll...

[SOUP]

I had said previously that UM assistant baseball coach Gino Dimare was a difference maker. Maybe not so much?

[Ohio_Cane]

Rumors flying that Seth Greebert is out as VT basketball coach

[Ohio_Cane]

^^ Greenberg**

[Hassan]

Good Article Soup.

I would like to expound on this topic. I do not want to get into what measurable’s mean on the football field because we all know there are examples of people with great or not so great but were great players. What I want to discuss is the 3 recruiting services and their #’s and how that impacts college teams. As we Miami fan’s know there are a great many coaching staff’s that recruit based on these service’s “list”. The list are based off of tape and in part by measurables. The future of any CFB team is in recruiting, it is hard to determine how a young man will develop and there are bust no matter what you do, but you want to mitigate risk as much as possible in order to maximize success. The problem is the 3 services would use high light tapes which of course can obfuscate the players weakness and enhance their strengths with careful editing. In the old days evaluation was conducted by visiting recruits games, before the days of youtube and recruiting services coaches spent a lot of time evaluating. The difference was the have and havenot’s is that the have’s could afford private planes etc to give huge advantages to the have’s. Small private schools with limited recruiting budgets had to be creative to remain competitive. With Miami our camps we now are bringing the best players to us where we can see them up close and put them through the paces to evaluate if they fit out system and the attributes we are seeking. The good news is that the recruiting services are getting better, in the past their measurable were sometimes guesses and sometimes given by the H.S. coach or interviews they conducted. With these young men still growing the measurable can be a moving target and often times the recruiting services can be off by a wide margin if one has not spoke to the recruit for months. The past few years the big companies and recruiting services have held Combine style events in which the recruits are measured and tested in many events. This has helped to get the measureables to be more accurate but many times lazy recruiting services still report their inaccurate information while data exist that is much more accurate gathered from these combines. On the good side these combine’s let college coaches know the true size of the players and the players get to hear different voices from a coaching perspective then just their H.S coach. We will see more and more developed players over time as the good coaching is creeping down further and further.

[SOUP]

Arkansas hires John L Smith to a one year contract to replace the ousted Bobby Petrino.

HUH?

Smith was HC at Weber State. Petrino had replaced Smith at Louisville and now Smith replaces Petrino at Arkansas.

IRONY.

[SOUP]

Seth Greenberg CONFIRMED as out as VT basketball coach.

[SOUP]

Dick Vitale has UM ranked #36 for next season:

http://espn.go.com/espn/dickvitale/story/_/id/7845140/dick-vitale-preseason-top-40-2012-13

[SOUP]

CBS's Rothstein has UM basketball at #23:

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/04/04/rothstein-files-an-early-look-at-the-top-25-for-the-2012-13-college-basketball-season/

[calGary Cane]

One recruiting service has Joe listed at 5-11, 215 and running a 4.4 forty.

Another has Stud listed at 6-1, 225 and running a 4.6 forty.

Still another web site has Joe checking in at 6-0, 220 and 4.5 in the forty.
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I deduce from the 3 sites that as the player gets older, he gets fatter and runs slower.

Going by height (we don't grow shorter!)
5-11, 215 and running a 4.4 forty.
6-0, 220 and 4.5 in the forty.
6-1, 225 and running a 4.6 forty.

See it all makes sense! LOL

[Ohio_Cane]

BREAKING NEWS - Sources: Device allowed Saints GM Mickey Loomis to listen to visiting coaches during 2002-04 seasons

Saints to get first NFL death penalty? LOL

[CGNC]

Raize, congrats to your Flyers, they outplayed the Pens in that series (can't really wish them luck tho) LOL!

[CGNC]

Good article Soup. I bet that time in Tally was just miserable

[TheWhat]

BREAKING NEWS - Sources: Device allowed Saints GM Mickey Loomis to listen to visiting coaches during 2002-04 seasons

Saints to get first NFL death penalty? LOL

Posted by: Ohio_Cane

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LOL. Loomis is about to get the same ban Greg Williams did. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Loomis will not be the Saints or anyone's GM by the time the NFL season starts lol.

[86Cane]

I deduce from the 3 sites that as the player gets older, he gets fatter and runs slower. See it all makes sense!

Posted by: calGary Cane | April 23, 2012 at 03:54 PM

It happens to ALL of us doesn't it? LOL

[Hassan]

The whole point of the 4.3 Streeter debate was that people on here said he could not run a 4.3. I think we all saw he can. Even if you go with the 4.40 time that is not his best time. Usain bolt does not set a WR every time he runs. Streeter has 4.3 speed that is my point. Not sure why i have to go over this 10 times. If I was wrong I would admit it. One thing i am wrong about although i never predicted it, is that Aldarius ran in teh low 4.4's I never in my life saw that coming adn never heard anyone predict he would run anything near that.

[86Cane]

1. Good article Soup.

2. I bet that time in Tally was just miserable

Posted by: CGNC | April 23, 2012 at 04:32 PM

1. Thank U. Lots of time in that one.

2. YUP, man those Seminole fans are a cocky bunch of jerks. Canes fans did not have much to cheer about until Sunday when we had the lead for most of the game until the very end in the 10th inning.

But that is all that matters, the final score and once again we did NOT get the job done in Tally. No fun at all.

But I did discover a very nice disc golf course in Tally at Tom Brown Park so the trip was not a complete waste!

[pbcfrcane13]

If not soup I can send it to you through email and you can post it for me either way....always repping the U even on the wedding day lol

[Ohio_Cane]

congrats to your Flyers (can't really wish them luck tho)

Posted by: CGNC | April 23, 2012 at 04:29 PM
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That's what Bylsma said in his presser! LOL

[pbcfrcane13]

Sent....hope you like them

[86Cane]

Got the photos. GREAT JOB!

[pbcfrcane13]

Thanks nothing like getting hitched to a gator fan blah lol......but easy for our colors blue and of course had to go with green so she wouldnt get both there colors in there lol

[LB]

Excellent article, Soupers. Fine craftsmanship.

D&D!
Ryan Williams!

[The What]

Nice article soup. Can't wait for the future articles about future recruits. This makes me all the more happy about goldens camps and his insistence on seeing players up close and personal and not just through a video. For anyone in doubt we are in good hands with coach golden.

Just saw the deon bush video of him working out. I gotta say I'm just excited to see him on the field. Love the hard work and work ethic. He's a future canes leader.

Louisville is gonna dominate the big east with all those Florida players they are getting especially if they are working as hard as that kid with deon bush.

[Ohio_Cane]

Is there anyone that doesn't believe SOUP, myself and others now about Golden's evaluation of his so-called "$7" recruits (or whatever the dollar amount is for Golden's camp)?

[Gin & Tonic]

Memo to New Orleans Saints:

You play in the NFC, not the SEC.

When you break rules to win football games, you will get punished not rewarded.

[TonyCane]

>Memo to New Orleans Saints:
>
>You play in the NFC, not the SEC

Hilarious!

[canesteeler]

CGNC time for a change behind the Pens bench.

[OCALACANE]

352 reporting
top Florida womens B Ball recruit Jennifer Bolinger is being recruited and very interested in the U!
Father William Bolinger is a huge fan of the Great American Coffee Roasters 5 shot Latte and the U!

CaneSpace wil have an exclsive inside track to her progress.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHPWwQ1k3n8

U Yesterday!
U Today!
U Tomorrow!

[Big chuck]

Miami was named safety u, also included rb, wr, te , ilb and mention at ot & cr. Now I understand golden problem with this class that is leaving . Hopefuly golden can't make believer out of these class that r comin in.

[The What]

Leonard hankerson on 106.7 wjfk @ 9:25am

For those interested

[The What]

www.wjfk.com

Forgot to send the link

[CGNC]

Canesteeler - I wondered about that but how do you replace a coach whose team scored 108 points? After thinking about it I think we just need to tweak the Defense (as in get one). I think that problem was always there but just disguised with injuries (Sid and Geno and Letang). This year the Flyers exposed most of the season and so did the Isles and Sens towards the end of the season. I think when Geno took over the team this year and they went on that run some really bad habits ensued because they could outscore everyone and they kind of took on his persona. Fix that D and look out next season. Oh and we need a decent back up for Flower - he was fatigued going into the first round I think. It will be interesting to see what Mario and Ray Shero do. Just my $0.02 fwiw

[The What]

Leonarad Hankerson recap.

He is coming along well from his injury. Should be ready by the fall (hopefully), though nothing is certain.

He was asked why he wasnt getting any playing time for the first 6 to 8 games of the season. He said he wasn't doing the things he was supposed to be doing. He said that in college he was never required to finish 20 yards (Not sure what he meant if anyone can elaborate?). He basically said he wasn't doing the small things to get on the field and that he was feeling down that he wasnt getting playing time but finally picked himself up and started taking care of his business and controlling only what he can control.

Seems to me he was ill prepared for the rigors of the NFL. I hope all the guys coming out are better prepared and thrive in the NFL.

[Da U N Houston]

"Are we not supose to beat Alabama"
That right there is how you set a standard!!!!!

[TJL]

good stuff:

http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/04/24/matt-barkley-went-to-class-in-helmet-and-pads/

[The What]

"Size Matters"

Thats what she said

[j.w.]

Good info, Soup!

[Ohio_Cane]

Canes are now also Safety U in Rivals "Position U" series.

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1358504

[The What]

Miami was named safety u, also included rb, wr, te , ilb and mention at ot & cr. Now I understand golden problem with this class that is leaving . Hopefuly golden can't make believer out of these class that r comin in.

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This is the ultimate recruiting tool. Its pretty amazing that a school that was not been producing wins on the field has been producing NFL players. You mix winning with producting NFL players and we should get every recruit from around the country knocking on our door. I see it coming in the next couple of years and am excited for it.

[Hassan]

We should be KR U also and get would get mention at Punter U if Feagles was around still

[LB]

We really need a tight end to grab the position by the throat. Like yesterday.

[Hassan]

Hardin told the jurors that prosecutors will not be able to corroborate McNamee's claims. He said that the government has interviewed 187 people, and used 103 federal law enforcement officers -- "over whether a baseball player used steroids

Guys My take on this is how perverted "Justice" in this country is. 187 interviews and 103 federal law enforcement officers to see if Clemens lied about trying to throw a ball better? Really? Trillions of dollars have been siphoned off to European elites in the Mortgage backed securites fraud, Billions in dirty back room deals and every day the rigged casino called Walstreet corruption is everywhere and The S.E.C. is like 1 guy who plays golf with the same executives no interviews no federal officers, but god forbid Clemens wants to throw a ball faster. I liked "the other guys" where the SEC guy said he was playing golf etc with the guy he was about to be asked to investigate but he "swore" that would not interfere with his investigation lol At least in the movie he jumped from the building.

[Hassan]

Size Matters.....

In Football there are certain positions where it matters more If i really look at it I would say the position where size matters the Most is the biggest guy on the field LT. You absolutely will not see a 6'1 290 LT Playing at a high level.

At the skill positions you see tons of shorts guys even at QB you have guys starting under 6'0 even elite guys like Drew Brees, of course WR and RB tons of small guys who excel. The D the guys up front you will see occasional short DT's but they have girth, you will see occasional shorter DE's but are really fast but they are not small just relatively small. LB's sometimes you see some fairly small guys like Spence and others under 6'0 and not overly big. the Secondary has many examples of elite guys that are undersized. Ed Reed would not look different then most fans in a t shirt and jeans. but the Offensive Line Size is a premium. Nowhere is it more important than protecting the QB's blind side which most often is the LT position. The long arms to fend off fast Defends and the weight to anchor against the bull rushes and set the edge on the running plays all require size more so then skill. It becomes so important that size actually becomes a skill in itself. Our own Seantrel Henderson is a good example. He is a talented player in his own right but in H.S he was the #1 player in the country not because he had the best technique but because he was one of the biggest athletes seen for a long time at 6'8 and 386 lbs when he arrived as a freshman, with a 7'1 wingspan. His greatest skill was the size that he posses. Once his technique and work ethic catches up with his immense size he can once again be the most coveted player in the nation.

[The What]

Guys My take on this is how perverted "Justice" in this country is. 187 interviews and 103 federal law enforcement officers to see if Clemens lied about trying to throw a ball better? Really?

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Hassan, you know what I think would resolve a lot of the problems we are experiencing in terms of national debt, individual debt, healthcare costs sky rocketing, a decay in our societal fabric, etc.

Reducing the 8 + 1 (for lunch) hour work day

6 hour days, 5 days a week. Lunch is optional if you take it, you work an extra hour. 7am to 1pm or 8am to 2pm 9am to 3pm. Or whatever schedule of employment for that business. Salary would have to stay the same but productivity would actually increase due to a rested, healthier work force.

It would significantly reduce the obesity and healthcare epidemic in the US.
It would re-establish the famalial and social fabric of our society.
It would increase work productivity (a happier healthier employee is a more productive employee)
It would re-engage people with their neighborhood, society and country as a whole
Those things in turn would create more individual savings (less money on eating out), more political awareness (more time to get politically active), better health (more time to exercise, nap, rest,etc)

As odd as this may sound, I believe the antiquated 8 hour work day is at this point in our society causing more harm than good. If you add the time from when you wake up to when you get home from work that is a good 10 to 12 hours depending on where you live in the country. That leaves little time to do much else when you get home.

Just a theory on my part.

[CGNC]

Just a theory on my part.

Posted by: The What | April 24, 2012 at 04:04 PM

I like it

[Texascane]

The newest from Billy Corben...can't wait to see it. Check out the cash register receipt on the title

http://www.rakontur.com/journal/2012/4/24/broke-our-new-espn-films-documentary.html

[The What]

The newest from Billy Corben...can't wait to see it. Check out the cash register receipt on the title

http://www.rakontur.com/journal/2012/4/24/broke-our-new-espn-films-documentary.html

Posted by: Texascane

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Cant wait for that. That should be really good.

[j.w.]

Like your thinking, What. Lots of things could go wrong (i.e., more time to drink, eat, smoke instead of working out) but it is a creative idea that should be debated. What we have now isn't working as well as it used to, so I say it's time to try something new.

[LB]

QB is the most important position in this class, and will continue to be so until we find someone of all-conference caliber. Olsen seems to be the target. If that doesn't work, I wonder who's the second choice?

TE is second. Minus Graham's one year (5 TD's), the last TE to do any damage is Olsen.

I'd love to see a beastly DT and another safety. All else, I'm not clear.

[raizecane]

Raize, congrats to your Flyers, they outplayed the Pens in that series (can't really wish them luck tho) LOL!

Posted by: CGNC | April 23, 2012 at 04:29 PM

Thanks CGNC.....was getting a little worried after the Pens took 2 in a row.

[3G Cane]

Just a theory on my part.

Posted by: The What | April 24, 2012 at 04:04 P
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Sounds like a plan. However I have to believe the crooks that control this country wouldn't be too fond of people having more free time to realize just how bad they're screwing us.

[CoCane]

Exactly 3G. The elite in this country (Our real government) relies heavily on the publics ignorance. They don't give a flying f*ck about us...

[The What]

Alabama becoming Hurricanes-like NFL pipeline

Associated Press | April 23, 2012
MONTGOMERY, Ala. -- Alabama is becoming the kind of NFL draft factory that the Miami Hurricanes were a decade ago.

The national champion Crimson Tide is expected to have five players drafted in the first round Thursday night, which would be only the fifth time that has happened since the common draft began in 1967.

Add in last year's first-round quartet, and only the Hurricanes have had more a prolific stretch in the draft.

Tailback Trent Richardson, linebackers Dont'a Hightower and Courtney Upshaw and defensive backs Mark Barron and Dre Kirkpatrick are all projected as first-rounders.

ESPN draft analyst Mel Kiper Jr. figures "at worst" four of them will go in the first round, and said that playing for the Tide is good for a half-round bump for other draft-eligible players.

"People love the fact they're coached up so well, basically pro coaching," Kiper said. "And they're so much more prepared for what the NFL is going to have to offer."

Still, Alabama will need one more great year to match the Hurricanes. Miami had six first-round picks in 2004, four in 2003 and five in 2002.

The Hurricanes of the early 2000s are the only ones to have at least nine first-rounders in a two-year span, according to STATs LLC.

Ohio State also had five players taken in the opening round in 2006, and Southern California did it in 1968.

Saban said he emphasizes the importance of his players getting degrees and developing personally -- and maybe turning into NFL players.

"We want to help them develop as a football player which means have a great career here, win a championship and see if you can play at the next level," he said.

It helps that Saban has been bringing in some of the nation's top recruiting classes. That has translated into two national championships in three years, along with a renewed draft presence.

The Tide didn't have a single player picked in 2008 for the first time in 38 years. The following year, Andre Smith became Alabama's first first-rounder since Shaun Alexander and Chris Samuels in 2000.

The Tide has eight players who are likely to be drafted. Noseguard Josh Chapman, cornerback DeQuan Menzie and wide receiver/return man Marquis Maze are all expected to be picked in the mid-to-late rounds.

At least six players are listed as potential first-rounders in 2013 in various mock drafts.

[The What]

So I wanted to know how many players had the potential to get drafted in 2012 from temple. I found this list of top 14 draft prospects from the MAC. And I can happily say temple had the most with 5 players in the top 14. These are al golden players that he recruited and developed. Not only can the man recruit but he can develop his players into potential nfl caliber players. And if he can do that with players from temple imagine what he can do with the players at Miami.

http://www.drafttek.com/2012-NFL-Draft-Prospect-Rankings/Top-Mid-American-Conference-Players.asp

[LB]

"if he can do that with players from temple imagine what he can do with the players at Miami. "

That's the key. Right there.

[Ohio_Cane]

"if he can do that with players from temple imagine what he can do with the players at Miami. "

That's the key. Right there.

Posted by: LB | April 25, 2012 at 06:51 AM
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And exactly what The U has been lacking for years now.

[herbieibis]

Gil Brandt, talking about The "U"'s lack of success at the college level,compared to the talent they send to the NFL, simply states: that it starts with the QB problems we've had. That statement is a fact but the other problems we've had is a lack of a stable coaching staff, especially offensive & defensive coordinators.Also there have been certain positions we've let get real thin by not recruiting the position hard. Over the course of the last 7 to 8 years at one point & time or another we've been thin at the QB, WR, CB, Dt, & LB positions. If we can ever get the numbers right at those certain positions, we will start to right the ship, along with a few more playmakers. I don't think to many people would question that we have talent, it's just that we don't have the depth of talent we used to have and two, we've had some slouches has head coaches.

[Ohio_Cane]

Golden quotes incoming...

[Ohio_Cane]

Golden said they do give incoming freshmen conditioning stuff to work on - some already working at UM

Golden said everyone injured in spring practice should return for the fall.

Golden says "Rashawn Scott, Asante Cleveland, Shane McDermott really helped themselves on offense'' in spring

Golden says on D, "Shayon Green, Kelvin Cain, Cornileus, Highsmith, Rogers" jumped out

Golden on qb Morris: "He's throwing...I don't know when he's going to get the absolute green light..''

Golden said it shouldn't be too long before QB Morris (back surgery) gets the green light to do it all

Al Golden: "At QB certainly we developed depth just by virtue of Stephen's absence this spring''

Golden: "At rb James and Clements have distinguished themselves.. Dallas Crawford will have a role.''

Though DL Olsen Pierre appeared to have a breakout spring game, coach Golden after tape review, he benefited from missed assignments on O.

Golden: "We held guys out the last week & in spring game but it appears everybody will be ready for camp"

Golden: "We're right where we want to be moving into this next phase.''

Golden: "We expect another 6 or so to be here for Summer I [session] and remainder by June 27th''

[Ohio_Cane]

VT CB Jayron Hosley and ASU LB Vontaze Burfict both failed drug tests at the combine...

Really, guys? Couldn't wait until after? Wow...

[Ohio_Cane]

Canes coaches were at Mandarin High school in Jacksonville today. Checked in on DT Kingsley Opara (6'4, 275)

[Ohio_Cane]

BREAKING NEWS: Football Week 1 game is scheduled: August 31st, Miramar Patriots at Bradenton Manatee, televised LIVE nationally on ESPN.

[Ohio_Cane]

Chip Bennett (@QBCoach?) - "To all Canes fans, the U is stepping it up in QB recruiting."

Don't know who he is, but I like the info.

[herbieibis]

We need to step it up in recruiting QBs, since like, Uh the last 10 years!

[j.w.]

It sounds good, hope Chip Bennett is a credible source.

[Ohio_Cane]

It sounds good, hope Chip Bennett is a credible source.

Posted by: j.w. | April 25, 2012 at 01:35 PM
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I dunno if he is or not. His bio says "Training QB's to be great"

[Ohio_Cane]

Awesome tweet by Spence today! LOL!

"If you have my number please don't call on April 26-28 I don't need no false alarms lol"

[Six]

Ohio_Cane - my $$$ is on Bradenton Manatee in that game

Canes should be going after no less than 4 players on that squad

[LB]

Bane says it best, but it applies here.

The Fire Rises.

[Ohio_Cane]

Canes should be going after no less than 4 players on that squad

Posted by: Six | April 25, 2012 at 02:25 PM
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Can U name 4 (or more) for me?

I don't know anything about them.

[Ohio_Cane]

Caneinsider.com - Article (free) on Tampa Jesuit WR Travis "TJ" Johnson:

One of the top wide receivers in the Sunshine State is Travis “TJ” Johnson from Tampa (Fla.) Jesuit. He is tall, athletic and has good speed out on the field. While attending the NFTC event at the Wide World of Sports in Lake Buena Vista, Fla., Johnson told CaneInsider.com about the colleges recruiting him the hardest.

“At the moment I want to say USC. I have talked with Monte Kiffin a lot,” Johnson said. “Vanderbilt with Coach (Josh) Gattis, the wide receivers coach. USF, I talk to them a lot. Miami with Coach (Art) Kehoe and Florida with Coach (Aubrey) Hill.”

He talked more about Miami offensive line coach Art Kehoe.

“He is just an upfront guy,” said Johnson of Kehoe. “He tells me I need to keep working on the little things and that I have talent. He said I just have to keep grinding each day and not get complacent. And that I am going to be playing more of an X if I want to come in. They see me being more of an X receiver like they did with (Tommy) Streeter. Then I would go to a tight end or H-Back if that doesn’t work out. They like my height and speed. People don’t think I can move, but I can really move. I have good hands and stuff like that.”

Johnson, 6’3 and 230-pounds, feels that Miami is on the rise.

“They are up-and-coming. They are starting to get players like Duke Johnson and Antonio Crawford from Plant. So, they are starting to get top players, they just need to put the pieces together.”

So, where does Miami stand for this talented prospect?

“I don’t have any favorites, but I definitely like [Miami],” said Johnson. “I grew up a fan.”

He described what led him to root for the ‘Canes when he was growing up. “Basically that there isn’t nothing better than being a Hurricane. Growing up a fan, if you go to school in basically Florida, you might as well go to Miami. Nothing like being at The U.”

http://www.caneinsider.com/content/1749-tampa-wr-holds-um-offer-grew-up-fan.html

[j.w.]

Nate Webster convicted on 4 counts in his sexual assault case. He may be a Cane, but I despise people who do this to kids. Leave the 15-year olds (or even 16-year olds) alone if you're a grown man, there's no excuse for this.

(From PFT)
An Ohio jury has found former NFL linebacker Nate Webster guilty of four counts of unlawful sexual conduct with a minor, a conviction that could result in Webster being sentenced to up to 20 years in prison.

Webster was also charged with gross sexual imposition and sexual battery but was acquitted on those charges. He was also acquitted on a fifth count of unlawful sexual conduct with a minor.

Prosecutors accused Webster of having a sexual relationship with a girl when she was 15 and he was in his 30s, and of threatening to kill her and her family if she told anyone. Webster admitted he had sex with the girl but claimed it was consensual and that the sexual relationship began after she turned 16, which is the age of consent in Ohio.

Judge Ralph Winkler said after the jury announced its verdict that he expects to sentence Webster to prison, and he ordered Webster jailed until his sentencing hearing on June 6. Webster turned down a plea deal that would have forced him to spend four years in prison.

Webster played for the Buccaneers from 2000 to 2003, for the Bengals in 2004 and 2005 and for the Broncos from 2006 to 2008.

[Hassan]

Da Webb should have taken the deal 4 years looks real good right now would have been out in 3 max with good behavior and on with his life still in his 30's. But he might do closer to 20 now and be out when we have flying cars.

[Six]

Nate Webster. An unbelievable idiot.

[orange 'n green in the vein]

"Posted by: Hassan | April 25, 2012 at 03:30 PM"

I shouldn't be laughing at this post since Nate was the man when I was an underclassmen, but first off, I'm glad he wasn't around to mentor DJ Williams and secondly, that last sentence was funny as hell, so I chuckled. Nate couldn't find a 17 year old to get with just to be on the safe side? I'm sure OSU fans couldn't wait to get a hold of him for the beat-down they took in September on that jury, but impartiality and justice is blind and all that rule the day.

[Ohio_Cane]

Article by Susan Miller-Degnan:

"UM Canes coach Al Golden: "Just because your competition may not be in the room, just understand that he's coming."

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2012/04/al-golden-speaks-on-accs-spring-teleconference-the-reality-is-youre-competing-against-a-standard-not.html

[3G Cane]

With all the Howard and Bush excitement aside, I have to say I am interested to see what Antonio Crawford brings to the field.

[Ohio_Cane]

Golden's teleconference over at http://www.theufootball.com/

[Six]

Ohio_Cane - the name that everyone knows from BManatee is their QB, Cord Sandberg. I know he probably gets sick of the Tebow comparisons, simply b/c he's a lefty, he can run if needed (813 yards, 10 TDs last year), he can pass (2,187 yards, 19 TDs) - he's an athlete

But the names that people will know this year, if they don't already:

Derrick Calloway
Thor Miller
Blake Keller
Willie Smith

even little Ja Juan Pollock

Clinton Heaven would've been a nice add to the Canes last year, he signed with UNC - kid is a Safety so the Canes would've had a log jam at that position. I'll still take my boy Rayshawn Jenkins though, no doubt at all

My favorite BManatee player of them all - Anthony Lauro

Kid reminds me somewhat of Danny Woodhead. Tough as nails, crazy white boy with huge legs and a mohawk - with Woodhead's chip on the shoulder type attitude

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywc2vWqSpUU

Love that kid. Fun to watch in person

[Ohio_Cane]

Thor Miller

Posted by: Six | April 25, 2012 at 03:59 PM
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Ummm, yes! Based solely on his name!!

[Hassan]

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/43565

LM6 had a chat an answered a few questions from yours truly

[2002nemo]

Size matters...?

WINS matter!!!

[PlayaCane aka Rashad]

Latest Mock draft from foxsports.com, has a few Canes being drafted

3rd round: 74. Kansas City Chiefs: Brandon Washington, G, Miami

4th round: 102. Washington Redskins: Sean Spence, LB, Miami
127. New York Giants: Lamar Miller, RB, Miami

5th round: 157. Atlanta Falcons: Chase Ford, TE, Miami
162. New Orleans Saints: Marcus Fortson, DT, Miami

6th round: 178. Buffalo Bills: Tommy Streeter, WR, Miami

7th round: 237. San Francisco 49ers: Olivier Vernon, DE, Miami.

[Ohio_Cane]

Fox sports is nuts if they think LM6 wont get drafted until round 4. Early 3rd at the latest

[SOUP]

U Yesterday!
U Today!
U Tomorrow!

Posted by: OCALACANE | April 24, 2012 at 08:32 AM

There IT is right there.

[SOUP]

Just back from Jerome Brown's home town.

[SOUP]

Golden: "At rb James and Clements have distinguished themselves...Dallas Crawford will have a role.''

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | April 25, 2012 at 12:12 PM

Oh yeah he will, oh yeah...LOL

[SOUP]

I have to say I am interested to see what Antonio Crawford brings to the field.

Posted by: 3G Cane | April 25, 2012 at 03:51 PM

Just ask Six.

He has VERY HIGH praise for this recruit.

[Ohio_Cane]

Oh yeah he will, oh yeah...LOL

Posted by: SOUP | April 25, 2012 at 08:30 PM
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Almost exactly what I was thinking when I read that.

[Ohio_Cane]

I've gotta say, watching the show "South Beach Tow" is pretty entertaining. Maybe being from South Beach, some of U may not like it, but having never been there, I like it. Funny stuff.

[CaneRock]

Manny_Navarro Status quo in college football out after 2013. Indications are we will have 4-team playoff to determine national champ
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[SOUP]

NEW BLOG IS UP!