Disgraceful, Shameful, Disgusting, Criminal

Those four words now accurately define and describe the situation at Penn State University.

After special investigator and former Federal Judge and FBI Director Louis Freeh took the time to invesitgate and detail what actually happened at Penn State it was left to all of the rest of the college football world to ask themselves the following questions:

1. How could something like this actually have happened?
2. How were the initial allegations of child abuse not reported as required by Federal law?
3. How could a known pedophile be allowed to continue to exist among other children?
4. How could a legitimate, respected and prestigious institution of higher learning become so blinded by winning that it would lose sight of its ethical, professional and legal responsibilities?
5. How could anyone, anywhere and in any position of power compromise themselves to the point where they completely forgot what is really important and matters most?

Before we deal with the Penn State case, let's take a minute to look at some U.S child abuse statistics.  According to the latest statistics an estimated 3.3 million referrals of child abuse or neglect were received by public social service agencies. Of these referrals, 899,000 children were confirmed to be victims of abuse or neglect (DHHS).

• 12 out of every 1,000 children in the United States were found to be victims of maltreatment.
• 5 children die from maltreatment each day in the U.S.
• There is a report of child abuse ever 10 seconds in the U.S.
• Approximately 80% of those who were abused develop a mental health disorder.
• Almost 2/3 of those in substance abuse treatment report having been abused as children.
• About 30% of those who were abused as children go on to abuse their own children.
• There is a cost of over $120 billion a year due to the maltreatment of children.

Reports of suspected child maltreatment come from multiple sources. Over one-half of reports (61.7 percent) were from professionals who are considered “mandated reporters”. Mandated reporters are required by law to report suspected abuse and neglect. The most common mandated reporter referral sources are social services personnel, legal professionals, law enforcement, criminal justice personnel and medical and mental health professionals.

Maltreatment can take many forms, and some children can suffer from more than one type. Since 1999, the majority of children confirmed to be victims of child maltreatment experienced neglect. The following are the percentages of children who experienced maltreatment in the U.S.:

• Neglect: 63%
• Physical Abuse: 17%
• Sexual Abuse: 10%
• Emotional/Psychological Abuse: 7%
• Medical Neglect: 2%
• Other (abandonment, etc.): 14%

Now back to the Penn State scandal.  If there was ever a more clear case of deliberate and intentional lack of institutional control in the history of the NCAA it is hard to think of.  And certainly it would be extremely difficult to think of one that involves the actual negligence or intent to allow or cause physical harm to innocent children victims as this case clearly shows.

If you asked me if I believed that players have been given money by boosters at almost every major university in the Nation, I would say yes.  Illegal benefits probably happen all of the time. 

If you asked me if I believed that players are being enticed to sign with certain schools with offers of money or sex or other sordid entanglements, I would say sure.  It may simply be a matter of who gets caught at playing "the game" and who does not.

But if you asked me if I believed that a university would be involved in any way in creating an environment where their actions (or lack thereof) would allow a coach to actively and continuously abuse and endanger young, innocent children right under the noses of University administrators, I would have said no way.

But that was before the Penn State case was exposed college sports fans to the new reality: that at least at one institution winning at all costs and the reputation of a head coach is much more important than the safety and lives of children.

The new reality is that a major university could engage in what we now know is conceivably the most dangerous and damaging behavior that could possibly be imagined.  It is now clear that not only did Joe Paterno, the Athletic Director and at least two other University administrators know about what was happening, but even worse they failed to do anything about it and allowed it to continue.

Shame on you Joe Paterno.

Shame on you Penn State University.

Shame on all of us for creating the monster we know as college athletics.

Sure, the monster chose to rear its ugly head at Penn State, but who really knows what else has and is still going on out there in locker rooms and other dark corners of campuses all across the United States where a protective hush-hush mentality rules the college athletics landscape?

The frightening fact is that in today's highly lucrative and competitive world of college athletics we may now have to assume that some of those people in power have accepted and embraced the theory of "win at all costs and damn the consequences" and that "the ends justify the means." 

That is precisely why the NCAA has a professional duty, an ethical mandate and a moral obligation to apply the Death Penalty to Penn State University.

If ever the NCAA needed to set a precedent that this type of unethical and even criminal behavior, behavior that clearly endangered the lives of innocent children, simply will not be tolerated at any level at any university it is NOW.

If they fail to act, and act quickly and decisively, then who really knows what else the 120 or so other major NCAA member institutions would be capable of doing?

We do know one thing for sure: Today there is only sadness in Happy Valley.

Comments

[MassivCane]

First!

[TJL]

second!!!

[Hassan]

Anyone who abuses kids is not a man to me

[CaneRock]

We just have to make sure that we do a better job of watching, and empowering our kids. I have two boys of my own, and while at a football camp one time, a friend of the family was telling me about my boys joining the chorus that His boys were in. He said that the chorus director saw a picture of my boys on the football camp website, and said, "Them some good lookin' boys, they wanna be in the chorus"...HUH!!! So He wants my boys to be in the chorus, based off of a picture on a website? Suffice it to say that my boys won't be on American Idol soon. Who knows, the chorus director may have had good intentions, but as a parent, you have to go with your gut, that just didn't sound right, not right at all.

[86Cane]

Hassan...those comments are on the last blog. If U want to comment then go there but do not bring that stuff forward. It has nothing to do with UM or sports in general or the purpose behind Canespace.

BTW...I tried to see who posted that comment but it was not a common IP Address or email so they remain anonymous for now.

[The What]

The statistics on child abuse is very saddening. I wonder how fast paterno would have reacted if it was his grandchild that was the victim. They need to tear down that statue along with the facade that was joe paterno and the "right way" he so deceitfully preached.

[The What]

By the way soup I really enjoyed this blog entry. Great stuff as usual

[WindyCane-Forecast1]

I think we will know a lot more about Golden after this season. With the development of the upperclassmen and the new freshmen, we will see where this program is headed.

I actually think the Canes will surprise a lot of people this year. The spring game showed me that the Canes are solid and getting stronger, and I think Steven Morris, Ray Ray, Linder, Seantrel, Perrymen and a few others will be All ACC. I expect Duke, Howard and several other freshmen will be big playmakers.

Golden will have them ready to play in every game, and they will make us proud by the way they play the game.

[86Cane]

By the way soup I really enjoyed this blog entry. Great stuff as usual

Posted by: The What | July 14, 2012 at 01:24 PM

Thanks! At least I know somebody appreciates it. I try to put in the time do the research so the articles have a little more depth than just: PSU should get the Death Penalty.

[The What]

Soup - you also bring up a good point. I think all of us on this blog can admit we love the monstrosity that is college football and as you said we area fans are part of the problem. My question is, can you seperate football from the universities and create an nfl minor league that works pretty much the same way college football works today with elimination of the universities. There would be a Miami hurricanes team but it would not be affiliated with the university of Miami in anyway. Is that something feasible and something that people would care to watch? You would lose a lot of the traditions etc. but let's be honest with ourselves. College football and to a lesser degree college basketball has tainted our universities. When kids that go to a university graduate barely capable of reading, writing, or earn a degree that's not worth the paper it's printed on. Then we have to ask ourself if major athletics should be seperated from the universities. Are we the only country in the whole world that has intermingled big time sports and higher education?
With a playoff system coming college football is going to be even bigger in every aspect. At what point does it become "the crimson tide football program, and oh yeah there is a university associated with it as well" or are we already there?

[The What]

*It should be we as the fans not we area fans*

[Ohio_Cane]

Nice article, 86!

NCAA 13 update: After 3 games and beating the #11 team in the nation, while the defense is #1 in the country only allowing 3 total points, Mike James is in 2nd for the Heisman, and Tracy Howard is 4th. Lol

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming...

[LB]

Thank you, CEO.

Once again, you’ve outdone yourself and I cheerfully tip my hat to you. I am proud to be associated with the intelligent, sympathetic, and warm human beings at Canespace. It’s an honor to post beside you, and I appreciate it.

Flash the U and fight injustice, baby.

[86Cane]

Flash the U and fight injustice, baby.

Posted by: LB | July 14, 2012 at 02:31 PM

There IT is right there.

[Sinistercane]

Nice article, 86!

NCAA 13 update: After 3 games and beating the #11 team in the nation, while the defense is #1 in the country only allowing 3 total points, Mike James is in 2nd for the Heisman, and Tracy Howard is 4th. Lol

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming...

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | July 14, 2012 at 02:24 PM
I benched Smiley for Johnson, running game is muched improved

[LB]

"Nice article, 86!

NCAA 13 update: After 3 games and beating the #11 team in the nation, while the defense is #1 in the country only allowing 3 total points, Mike James is in 2nd for the Heisman, and Tracy Howard is 4th. Lol

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming...

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | July 14, 2012 at 02:24 PM
I benched Smiley for Johnson, running game is muched improved"

I'm notorious for redshirting. The ratings improve so much. I keep them in the system as long as possible.

[Montreal-Cane]

Good article SOUP you should send it to the NCAA President Mark Emmert.

memmert@ncaa.org

[SlingBlade]

yes i got the emails...thx for the info...now dont lose my email again

[Montreal-Cane]

CORAL GABLES, Fla. -- The University of Miami announced the official hiring of Chris Yandle to the position of Director of Communications.

Chris Yandle is widely regarded as one of the best young communications professionals in college athletics, said Chris Freet, associate AD for communications & marketing. After watching his work from afar, I was even more impressed with his skills, philosophy and vision as we went through the search process. I am confident our fans will enjoy interacting with Chris, that our media will respect and appreciate his approach and that he will help our staff grow and expand their abilities.

Yandle, who comes to Miami after working for four years at Baylor, will serve as the Hurricanes’ primary football contact and will also oversee day-to-day operations in the athletics communications office.

"My family and I are extremely excited to join the University of Miami family, said Yandle. I strongly believe in Shawn Eichorst's vision for Miami athletics and I am proud to be part of one of the nation's most iconic athletics brands, The U."

[CaneRock]

Posted by: The What | July 14, 2012 at 02:20 PM

A minor league system such as you suggest won't work, I sure the hell wouldn't watch it. Face it, cheating goes on at every level, that's just a fact that we're going to have to live with. The world ain't perfect, and neither is CFB.

[Old Skool]

Nice job, Soup, CEO, 86

[CaneRock]

And I've watched, and been to a few arena games to make up for my offseason fix of waiting for the NFL and CFB start. And despite all the scoring that goes on, it's still boring. I would rather go to a lake and watch two people fish than watch that mess.

[orange 'n green in the vein]

86, I'm not sure what it says in a big picture type of point of view, but your best stuff here always comes from the sobering topics like this one and the Seau suicide one IMO, they always teach me something and give me something to think about, which I'm always appreciative of. Who'd have thought that would be the case when you started this whole enterprise up all those years ago?

Of course what I was thinking of yesterday before going to sleep was if the name Gray Crow came up north of Tampa between you and your dinner guests a few days ago, and if so what was said? I would have sent over another round of drinks on me if I could have hid in plain site to get the first hand scoop from the next table over! LOL!

[CoCane]

If u aint cheatin, u aint trying...

[86Cane]

OGV...I'll take that as a compliment. As U know I work indirectly with social service agencies so these type of topics are near and dear to my heart. I write best when I feel something strongly.

The name "Crow" did NOT come up during our recent pleasurable dinner conversation in North Tampa. I let it ride as I was afraid to rupture Six's cranium as I had no real idea what might spill out.

That man is a lot like U: he has LOTS of facts, stats, knowledge and other stuff running around up there that may never see the light of day.

And I'm not sure that is a good or bad thing? LOL

[Ohio_Cane]

I benched Smiley for Johnson, running game is muched improved

Posted by: Sinistercane | July 14, 2012 at 02:59 PM
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Like LB, I redshirt a good amount every year. They improve a lot. Usually redshirt anyone 3r string or lower if they're eligible and not a senior. Duke was one of those for this year behind Smiley and Eduardo.

[Old Skool]

Analysis by the NYTimes on how the NCAA may deal with PSU

http://tiny.cc/efighw

Perhaps the situation that most closely resembles the Penn State case is that of the Baylor men’s basketball team. In 2005, the N.C.A.A. barred Baylor from playing nonconference games for a season after violations that were uncovered in an investigation begun after the murder of a player by his former teammate.

“The N.C.A.A. didn’t punish Baylor because of the criminal violations,” said Michael Buckner, a lawyer who has extensive experience with N.C.A.A. infractions cases. “The N.C.A.A. punished Baylor because of the underlying N.C.A.A. rules violations that were also involved in those activities.” The Sandusky case does not appear to involve any specific N.C.A.A. rule violations. Criminal violations are not necessarily N.C.A.A. violations.

[86Cane]

Skool..dig deeper, do MORE research on NCAA rules related to the administration's institutional control responsibilities and/or misleading investigators.

[roachcane77]

Soup,

Nice work for the blog. Those stats on child abuse are scary, but I'll bet you those figures are LOW if anything.

Because of fear of reprisals, many kids won't report abuse, and keep it as a secret.

As a high school teacher for 33 years, (in a fairly decent area), I would estimate students who are "neglected" to be closer to 75%... The stories I hear from kids whose parents are basically "nonexistent" in their lives are too numerous to believe.

The nation was "shocked" when they saw that "bus ride" footage of the middle schoolers harassing the older bus monitor woman...

I was not surprised at all, I see that type of behavior every school day...

Those kids are getting ZERO guidance or moral upbringing at home. They are left on their own, in their rooms with their video games, Facebook, and tweets. Their role models come from "Jersey Shore." They have no moral compass.

Until parents step up and teach their children boundaries, and respect, the "inmates will run the asylum."

It's getting WORSE every year too.

[Felipe]

Great entry SOUP.

[Felipe]

It's not a matter of the NCAA lacking jurisdiction or ability to enforce rules regarding lack of administrative or institutional control, Old Skool. There are several pages of statues that deal with such I believe.

It's a matter of the NCAA actually *enforcing* such, which has no precedent to date. Basically, they either toss out the institutional control stuff from the rule book if they do nothing here, or enforce it by making an example of PSU football. Emmert can do either or.

It seems editorial pressure is nearly unanimous in stating that if PSU doesn't itself shut down their football program, then the NCAA should. And I agree.

Nittany Lion hardliners say that's punishing the wrong people, the innocent. What "wrong people"? Some of us want to punish YOU, the mindless Penn State fans who gave these people the power over your entire university and encourage a culture of unquestioning idolatry. You represent the culture of it, and the culture needs to change from what currently serves to protect the university, football program, and monied interests to one concerned with actual human lives.

[CaneRock]

The NCAA system is OUTDATED,BROKEN, and ASS-BACKWARDS.

[Jack]

The statue and the building were the rapes took place should be torn down immediately!

Penn State is still paying two of the Administrators who covered this shit up! F%#k penn state! I HATE PENN STATE!!

[86Cane]

You (PSU fans) represent the culture of it, and the culture needs to change from what currently serves to protect the university, football program, and monied interests to one concerned with actual human lives.

Posted by: Felipe | July 14, 2012 at 06:43 PM

There it is right there.

[Ohio_Cane]

Papa Cane - FSU DB Tyler Hunter tweets about wanting to kill cops after getting pulled over. Another Nole in the news. Non stop. http://t.co/bgc4u5kk

HILARIOUS!!

[86Cane]

Ohio...that FSU situation is NOT hilarious, it is SAD.

Very SAD and a statement of our society today.

[CaneRock]

Papa Cane - FSU DB Tyler Hunter tweets about wanting to kill cops after getting pulled over. Another Nole in the news. Non stop. http://t.co/bgc4u5kk

HILARIOUS!!

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | July 14, 2012 at 10:19 PM

Not surprised, He's just another DUMASS from Valdosta:

Tyler Hunter
(Lowndes HS)
Valdosta, GA

Greg Reid
(Lowndes HS)
Valdosta, GA

[CaneRock]

And the DUMASS says He's in a "White Charger". Hmmmm, I'd like to know who co-signed for that.

[j.w.]

Another well-written article, CEO. By the way, check your in-box for some mail.

[Felipe]

And so PSU sources leak the decision not to take the statue down, on a day when players were what, practicing according to the B1G blog?

Thing is, the school being this cavalier, showing this much bravado in how they just wish to move forward and rebuild a football brand rather than take time, introspect, and change, opens the door for Emmert even more. The precedent to gut a school athletically from a Penn State to a Texas State is there for the taking. And justly, I hope they sieze the day. For the kids' sake.

The hell with Joe Pa. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, no more evident than the guy who most radically betrayed the Penn State motto "may no act of ours bring shame." Inaction counts too, you sick SOB.

[orange 'n green in the vein]

Note to 18-23 year old student athletes (even ones at glorified community colleges like F$U); never use social media to threaten the life of an officer of the law, it's admissible in court.

Apparently Reid went to the same pot-in-the-car-denial school as Watkins and failed to graduate from there as well. What ever happened to using your rights to deny a consent to a search and seizure so your lawyer can have the evidence thrown out unless the arresting officer gets a warrant?

[Felipe]

Also, if this article doesn't change someone's mind who currently thinks the death penalty is too strong, then nothing will.

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/53097/psu-fans-staying-loyal-to-joe-paterno

[Felipe]

"It's unbelievable to think that kind of corruption came right from the top of the power structure. The NCAA did what it had to do" in canceling SMU's 1988 football season.

-Joe Paterno, May 1987.

[CaneRock]

Khan lost to Garcia last night, another phony one bites the dust.

[CGNC]

"How could a legitimate, respected and prestigious institution of higher learning become so blinded by winning that it would lose sight of its ethical, professional and legal responsibilities?"

Money, money and more money. Oh and the statue man they all worshiped\were scared of

Nice article 86. Nothing gets my blood boiling more than abused kids and animals as both are truly defenseless

[CGNC]

You know it would be in the best interest for them to shut down the football program for awhile. Think of how the fans of other teams at games will be with their fans, let alone the players.

[RCCF]

It would be UnFair to shutdown PSU football those kids had nothing to do with Sandusky's decisions and as fans of a team in trouble U would think we undstnd best but hey I guess not bt hey GlassHouses .. Pots n Kettles remember how U felt whn ppl were calln for U to shutdown the program..

RCCF12%

[LB]

Does Miami have a statue of someone?

...
...
...

Perhaps it's because individuals comform to the Ibis, instead of the Ibis conforming to the individual.

Chew on it a bit.

[pre83]

Posted by: The What | July 14, 2012 at 02:20 PM

The What - I am with you on this topic. I still have a difficult time with the word "athletic scholarship"

Of course, when it is and has been such a large part of our culture as a whole and large part of the university experience, it would be an almost impossible task to change the way "amateur" athletics is run for the sports of football and basketball in particular.

My next door neighbor is from and has lived in Canada until about ten years ago when he and his family moved to the US. Canada's "National" sport of ice hockey is not tied to the country's university system and the way in which major sports have evolved into more than just extra curricular activities within university life simply does not make any sense to keep them linked they way they are. There are far more conflicts than symmetries with the way the two are now intertwined.

I wont' lie, however, I absolutely love CFB, but I also believe it is time to call a spade a spade.

BTW - Fantastic work, TP!!

[CGNC]

Posted by: RCCF | July 15, 2012 at 09:29 AM

If the punishment fits the crime. Taking money from boosters, getting tats or cheating on a test is NOTHING compared to allowing a known pedophile to roam around your campus raping kids. Those players can go play somewhere else or the school can honor their scholarships and let them go to school, whichever. The love of the football program and the money that went with it is why this happened in the first place. Let them be the academic institution and all that it implies, just no football for awhile

[CGNC]

LOL and I hear all this "JoPa has done so much good over the years...." Someone please enlighten me, other than being a coach for way too long, what has he done (other than protect his precious program no matter what)?

Tough couple of years for AG - first Nevingate and then the PSU scandal. YOWZA

[CGNC]

Pre - I am ready or the fall. Football and hockey!!!!

[Felipe]

The other claim to his doing great is that he donated what $4 mil to PSU. Those defending him could bear in mind the $100 mil+ payouts coming to the victims due to Paterno.

As if money or football trumps child rape anyway. [/Captain obvious]

[Sinistercane]

If this had been the U, it would on 24 hour continuous news cycle

[2002nemo]

Does Miami have a statue of someone?

Isn't there a statute of Bowman Ashe is the lobby of the administration building?

[The What]

I don't think anyone here called for the death penalty of Ohio state, UNC, or any other schools with similar infractions. But this is allowing children to be molested and their lives destroyed for another 10 years all for the sake of a football program and it's egomaniacal head coach. Think how many kids could have been saved had "saint joe" turned Sandusky to authorities instead of simply forcing him out in 1998.

I say death penalty for PSU. Send a message. Boats, hos, uniform bartering, agents paying players, etc. All of that falls under the false moral guidelines of the NCAA. Allowing a pedophile, sexual predator, child molester, etc. to roam your facilities and the public for years knowing he continues to rape little children is morally reprehensible the world over.

[86Cane]

We are excited to welcome Chris Yandle (pronounced like candle) to the team. He is stepping into a new position – Director of Communications – that we created, in part, to properly serve the myriad of requests from the local media.

Chris will manage all day-to-day media needs for our football program, in addition to several other duties. He will officially begin in that capacity at ACC Media Days next weekend.

After Greensboro, he will move his family to Miami and be on the ground in Coral Gables full time by August 1. Until that point, please continue to contact Scott Zavitz and/or myself with all questions…. And if comfortable copy Chris Yandle, so he gets acclimated to the market.

P.S. – Training Camp opens on Friday, Aug. 3. Local media day (a.k.a. Canes Correspondents Luncheon) is Aug. 11. BankUnited CanesFest is Aug. 18. More details to come on all of these events ASAP.

Chris Freet
Associate AD for Communications & Marketing | University of Miami Athletics

[86Cane]

Isn't there a statute of Bowman Ashe is the lobby of the administration building?

Posted by: 2002nemo | July 15, 2012 at 02:00 PM

I believe that is true, but I believe that it was placed there after he passed away. It is much safer that way, wait 10 years after they are gone before any statues go up just in case something like the Paterno things blows up.

[orange 'n green in the vein]

If this had happened at Miami in a similar way, with the football coach talking the university administration out of going to the police, as an alumni, I would absolutely support the death penalty for the football program, permanently.

There is no moral ground for nittany lion fans/alumni/apologists to stand on here in arguing against the death penalty, absolutely none. Any they would have rightfully had was forfeited in '98 when they let the statue break the law by calling the shots and endangering children the way he did.

[86Cane]

Former UM President Bowman Ashe info:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/umdigital/4389769527/in/photostream/

Bowman Foster Ashe (April 3, 1885 – December 16, 1952) was a U.S. educator who served as the first president of the University of Miami.

In 1952, Dr.Ashe died, which led to Dr. Jay F. W. Pearson becoming the second sponsor of IA. During this time, many of the tribe's oral traditions and rituals were written down, and in subsequent years, a constitution drawn up. In March 1957, Iron Arrow helped unveil a statue in honor of Dr. Ashe.

[RCCF]

CGNC moral of the story the kids there had nothing to do with wht hppnd they dnt deserve to be punished..

[CGNC]

RCCF - But that is neither here nor there. The students can go to school somewhere else to watch football if football is sooooooo important and the players can be offered transfers or their scholly's honored. I feel more sympathy for the thousands of alums who donated heavily thinking We.Are.Penn.State was lead by a man whose moral caliber was superior to that of his peers.

Wait until the rest of the bozo's go to trial - I bet Joepa is thrown under the bus like a shot put

[RCCF]

Not arguing tht....Jus sayn the kids are not at fault..

RCCF12%

[86Cane]

RCCF...the crimes that were committed and the cover up that ensued and the entire INSTITUTION as a whole is responsible.

They must be punished regardless of what ever else the circumstances are or who might be affected by it.

[86Cane]

It would be UnFair to shutdown PSU football those kids had nothing to do with Sandusky's decisions.

Posted by: RCCF | July 15, 2012 at 09:29 AM

Ask the kids who got raped at Penn State if they think it is fair for a few people to be inconvenienced without football for a season? They have to live with the abuse and mental health and substance abuse issues for the rest of THEIR LIVES!

Ask the kids who got raped at Penn State about the adults who knew about it and covered it up if they think it is "fair" for some football coaches and players at PSU to get punished. Are their lives and football MORE important than those who got abused?

What IF it was your kid that was involved?

What IF it was U that was involved?

How would U feel?

What would U think was "fair"?

This is not just ONE coach who did something illegal with one child on one day this was an entire institution that participated in the insane rationalization that football and a coaching legacy was more important than the safety of over a DOZEN or more children over a decade.

Go to YouTube and listen to the song by Pat Benatar who said it best: "Hell is for Children."

[Old Skool]

Excellent points Soup

The cult of JoePa needs to die.

Give the program the death penalty for a specified time. Let the players transfer to the schools of their choice without affecting the chosen school's scholly limits. Or if the player is devoted to PSU, he can graduate on scholarship.

Any billings for all this activity can be deducted from the 4 million Joe Pa gave the school as well as the athletic program.

[elliott]

NCAA 13 update: After 3 games and beating the #11 team in the nation, while the defense is #1 in the country only allowing 3 total points, Mike James is in 2nd for the Heisman, and Tracy Howard is 4th. Lol

What level are you playing on? Just wondering if this game is worth buying? I personally think Madden has better graphics and was wondering if the game is better than the demo? Just let me know...

[CaneRock]

Buzz on Dolphins' young players; Surprising news on Ray Allen; Marlins, Heat, UM notes

SUNDAY BUZZ COLUMN

### UM has oral commitments from two of ESPN’s top 100 senior-to-be prospects (quarterback Kevin Olsen at No. 67 and Tampa tight end/receiver Travis Johnson at 77), but is still trying to land one from among the eight South Florida players in the top 100.

Of those eight, one each is orally committed to UF (Belle Glade Glades Day running back Kelvin Taylor, at No. 22) and FSU (University School defensive tackle Maquedius Bain, at No. 41), Ohio State (St. Thomas defensive tackle Joey Bosa, at 45) and Oklahoma (Delray Beach American Heritage running back Greg Bryant, at 30).
Of the four undecided local players among ESPN's top 100 national prospects, UM is in the top five for Booker T. Washington linebacker Matthew Thomas (13), University School receiver Jordan Cunningham (46) and Northwestern cornerback Artie Burns (69), and firmly in the mix for Oakland Park Northeast receiver Stacy Coley (33). Northeast coach Donnell Bennett, the former Hurricane, said UM, UF, FSU, Clemson and West Virginia - in no particular order - hold appeal to Coley. Cunningham told us he has UM even with Notre Dame, Stanford, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. Thomas has Miami fourth, with Alabama the leader, but it's fluid. UM, FSU and LSU stand out to Burns.

Posted by Barry Jackson at 11:00 PM

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[RCCF]

CEO I get all tht wht Im sayn is the kids tht are playing now have nothing to do with it. Wrong is Wrong no one wrong is worst than the other. Our upper brass knew Shapiro was a weasel but they went with it anyway Shannon disagreed and was fired as others followed by leaving the world wanted U football taken for good bcuz supposedly theU is a repeat offender we dont believe we should be banned the kids involved paid their price. PSU JoePa fired/passed Sandusky jailed President and staff all should be fired and face criminal charges hire new staff n play ball.. Vengence is not mine tht bein said they shouldnt ban football they should take down all the JoePa stuff tho..tht is all

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[canesteeler]

Elliot I prefer Madden.

[Gator Troll AKA Cornbread]

I am an idiot. I am a troll. I have no life. I live in the basement of my mother's house. I wear women's panties.

Please feel sorry for me because I spend all my time on another team's blog trying to make friends and enemies. Cry for me Argentina!

[Ohio_Cane]

Elliot, I play on all-American for the first season while I get use to the game again, then switch to Heisman. I never played the demo, so I can't speak to that comparison.

I love both games equally honestly. I've played 7 games into the season, and I like this one just as much if not more than last year. The gameplay has improved some and the recruiting is better with the ability to "scout" (watch film to get their ratings before U sign them) this year.

I have noticed there's more top 10 teams losing this year too. 2 teams I scheduled lost before I could play them in week 3 and 5 I think it was. Bama and LSU.

[86Cane]

Wrong is Wrong no one wrong is worst than the other.

Posted by: RCCF | July 15, 2012 at 07:48 PM

Really? REALLY???

Allowing a person in a position of power to rape children and covering it up and letting it stand over a decade is no worse than a few players getting a few $$$ and a boat ride for a few times?

U need to see a parent, a police officer, a judge and a psychologist, not necessarily in that order.

[Six]

I use Duke, ULMonroe or Western Kentucky on the version with Mark Ingram on the cover - and place them in the SEC. That's the 2012 version I think?

When you can win with crap teams like that, building them through recruiting (when recruiting is set to Heisman) - it makes it more fun

[I Love Miami]

Did I just read that someone on this blog wrote "Wrong is Wrong no one wrong is worse than the other"

RCCF - Are you serious? So by that logic, stealing a candy bar from the BP is the same as murdering a family??? Having someone buy you dinner is the same as covering for a known pedophile with reports that the activity was happening in your own locker room?

There is something wrong with your moral compass sir. . . Oh and Shannon wasn't fired because he didn't like Shapiro, he was fired because he could not coach and develop our players.

[86Cane]

4-Real...please email me at:

canespace86@aol.com

[Cornbread]

I am an idiot. I am a troll. I am a shameless worthless fool. I am also known as 4-Real. I am a fake, a fraud and a fool.

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Yes guys I am serious...Let me assure U I understand the seriousness of the crimes and I understand the lives that it hurt what I am saying is basically and that no wrong is worst than the other and I apologize but its my belief...I dont wanna get all religion/politcal about it but lets just say for my household no sin is greater in Gods eyes and as men we are judging(sorry CEO I knw U dont like this portion of the blogging)I jus had to say that there to help U understand my stance but I am not in disagreement that the crime is horrible it just isnt up to me to judge there character so I say let those who had nothing to do with it move on in PennState those tht did deal with them accordingly...again I say we dont want the 2013 team taking a hit for wht 2004-08 did so why are we asking that of someone else its not a good look but tht is jus my stance other than tht still all about tht U..

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[86Cane]

RCCF...U can feel and believe however U want. It is a FREE Country. But just so U know, your distorted and perverted point of view of the PSU situation is WAY in the minority. In fact I don't know of ANYONE outside of PSU who feels that way.

Not your job to judge? There is no judging here, they were PROVEN to be wrong and have committed crimes. I am sorry to say this, but as a result of your comments, I have lost all respect for U.

[raizecane]

They must be punished regardless of what ever else the circumstances are or who might be affected by it.

Posted by: 86Cane | July 15, 2012 at 04:18 PM

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Would you feel the same if it was Miami? Think about it, folks are asking to punish kids that had nothing to do with it. Yet, we are saying Miami should not have the DP because most involved are gone....

[86Cane]

Would you feel the same if it was Miami?

Posted by: raizecane | July 15, 2012 at 10:50 PM

YES and absolutely F-N YES! OGV already said that before.

You want to compare a few players getting a few dollars and some boat rides to SEVERAL KIDS being raped ON CAMPUS and covering that up?

Raize U have a daughter. U want her raped and that assualt covered up by her University? I didn't think so!

ANYONE defending this action by PSU is complicit to their criminal behavior. I feel sad and sorry for U all.

[raizecane]

86 - I think everyone involved should be wiped off the face of the earth...period. And if it was my daughter...I would probably be in jail. But for little Johnny who just enrolled, he should not be punished.

Now, with that being said, if every kid on the team can transfer w/o having to sit a year, then sure...eliminate the football program for a year or two so it hurts PSU where it counts..the wallet.

[86Cane]

Raize...do U think for a MINUTE that I would feel differently if this was Miami being accused of these horrific CRIMES?

U gotta be kidding me! The RAPE of children is RAPE of children and covering that up to win games or protect a coaches legacy is CRIMINAL, SHAMEFUL and REPREHENSIBLE!

My God are U defending this action?

[86Cane]

Raize...do U think for a MINUTE that I would feel differently if this was Miami being accused of these horrific CRIMES?

U gotta be kidding me! The RAPE of children is RAPE of children and covering that up to win games or protect a coaches legacy is CRIMINAL, SHAMEFUL and REPREHENSIBLE!

My God are U defending this action?

[raizecane]

Raize...do U think for a MINUTE that I would feel differently if this was Miami being accused of these horrific CRIMES?

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Not one bit.....but I am sure there are some that would say we wouldn't deserve the death penalty. Just saying.....

And I am not sure where you think I am defending the action. Read my post at 11:10. There is a reason murderer's dont like rapists.....especially of kids...and I don't blame them.

[86Cane]

I want to go on record right now as stating that I have officially lost all faith in people of our generation.

The first moment in time that we defend child rape and it's cover up to protect college athletics I know we are officially done as a society.

That some people would even try to defend that position is so appaling and offensive and so completely inconceivable that I cannot even begin to try understand it.

I wish U well and I pity your lives...

[86Cane]

Raize..U would go to jail if it was YOUR daughter but it is OK with U if it happened to some kid in PA who you don't know and who PSU admins covered it up?

Yeah U are a stand up type of guy!

[raizecane]

For the record....who are you saying is defending child rape???? I hope u r not accusing me of that.

[86Cane]

Raize...U know I know U and like U but U gotta come clean: Is PSU wrong here for not disbanding their football team for ONE year?

[86Cane]

Watch for FAKE 86 Cane posts without the blue hilight.

[raizecane]

Raize..U would go to jail if it was YOUR daughter but it is OK with U if it happened to some kid in PA who you don't know and who PSU admins covered it up?

Yeah U are a stand up type of guy!

Posted by: 86Cane | July 15, 2012 at 11:26 PM

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Really.....where are u getting this from? Are you not reading what I am saying....Again, read my post from 11:10.

If it's not sinking in...step away until tomorrow and re-read. Everybody INVOLVED should be punished in the harshess way possible. Can I get amy more clearer than that?????

[raizecane]

Raize...U know I know U and like U but U gotta come clean: Is PSU wrong here for not disbanding their football team for ONE year?

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Yes, they are wrong for not disbanding and it should be for 2 years..not one.

[86Cane]

Raize...OK I can see that U are serious now. WE are cool.

[86Cane]

RCCF...U are back in and good to go!

[elliott]

Psu should get the death penalty n shame on those of u that feel different

No comparison between what um players supposedly did n what those pervs did at psu

Hit em n the wallet n ban football for 3 yrs

[j.w.]

Wondering aloud here- if the Dept, of Ed has the power to withold all federal funds from Penn State for violating the Clery Act (and they do), why can't they give Penn State funding but condition it on no funds being used for athletics for a period of time? Or just football? Make Penn State support athletics on their own dime, if at all. I started thinking about this after reading tons of articles about how the NCAA doesn't have jurisdiction. The Dept. of Ed. certainly has it, and their hammer might be bigger than the NCAA could ever wield.

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1. I believe the statue should be removed along with all JoePa memorabilia.
2. I believe tht everyone involved should be fired and tried as a criminal for aiding criminal acts.
3. I believe the football program should take a hit but banning them (the kids playing now) for what the idiots before them did is absurd.
4. and MOST IMPORTANT I believe that rape, forcing yourself upon or tampering with children is not only just wrong but sick and Sandusky has to answer to that for life and beyond he will get his.

my apologies my comments were misconstrued but tht is all Im saying right there above That Is All

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[86Cane]

The Penn State Board of Trustees will not order the removal of Joe Paterno’s statue, at least not in the immediate future and maybe not ever, sources close to the trustees’ private discussions have told ESPN.com.

The trustees do not want to succumb to emotional outcries and media pressure to have the bronze statue taken down. They also are sensitive to the many alumni and students who hold on to adoration for the man who was a part of the program for 61 years.

Olson: Paterno exposed as Penn State's Cowardly Lion

Paterno’s role in the cover-up for convicted child molester Jerry Sandusky, as alleged in the Freeh Report this week, makes the statue for so many a painful and infuriating reminder of Paterno’s abject failure to protect the innocence of Sandusky’s victims.

“You can’t let people stampede you into making a rash decision,” a trustee told ESPN.com. “The statue represents the good that Joe did. It doesn’t represent the bad that he did.”

According to ESPN.com, some trustees believed the statue eventually would have to be torn down. However, most reached the consensus that it should remain standing for now. Some, sources said, insisted that it should never be removed.

“It has to stay up,” a trustee told the website. “We have to let a number of months pass, and we’ll address it again. But there is no way, no way. It’s just not coming down.”

Paterno’s contemporary, former Florida State coach Bobby Bowden, is among the most influential voices insisting the statue has no place on campus.

The statue of Joe Paterno will not be immediately removed, the Penn State Board of Trustees has decided. (AP Photo)

“You go to a Penn State football game and there’s 100,000 people down there and they see that statue and you know doggone well they’ll start talking about Sandusky,” Bowden told The Associated Press. “If it was me, I wouldn’t want to have it brought up every time I walked out on the field.”

[Canezitis]

I don't think anybody should ever get the death penalty in college football. If you believe any team should then we should get rid of all of college ball because ever team has cheated in some form. Now this psi thing is completely different and unimaginable, but what does shutting the football team down for a decade(it is a program killer ask smu) do for that community. That community needs healing and I don't think shutting down the football team like the death penalty does will help. Just my 2 cents. Those involved and found guilty should be punished, not the entire community.

[Canezitis]

*psu