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July 05, 2012

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706cane

Go Canes!

86Cane

Tyriq played in high school at around 235 lbs., so a couple of sessions of UTough, kid is going to be scary

Posted by: Six | July 05, 2012 at 09:54 PM

U got that right!

Da Skreetz has already said that Barrow has pronounced McCord as the fastest off the edge since Danny Stubbs.

Who got next?

raizecane

I personally like...."why don't we get drunk and....."

raizecane

The Feeny call -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMg4b6sAelg

Oh wait....wrong last name :-)

86Cane

SKREETZ WALKIN...

1. Tryiq Da Freak IS the quickest off the edge we seen in a few. I tried tellin you foolies but f nah them peoples wouldnt listen lol. Also Barrow sayz dont try and run away from boi cause he will getcha.

2. I'm goin straight at you Ohio Cane pimp so that grill you seein is this boi lol. TH3 aint goin all freshmen mode without Tryiq and my boi Jelani skeerin the f out them QBs.

3. Peoples that called for Gabe (Terry) to be a ballah made them a good call. Boi so da&@ raw though but WILL be a name maker durin his career. Looks good out there peoples.

Six

Tyriq is kind of athletic as well

Kid that size .. jumping up like this to try and block a field goal

http://hometeam.s3.amazonaws.com/blog%2Fimages%2Flead%2Ftyriq.jpg

Every Jefferson game I went to last year, every coach from the opposing side and scouts were all paying more attention to him than anyone else on the field

hassan

Good photo six

So if Tyriq gets 10 situational snaps per game and rushes the passer 70% of those is it not unreasonable to expect that 7 times out of the 84 plays he sacks the qb a .0833 sack rate maye 7 more hurries. Skreetz has me convinced he will have a role and help us win games.

LB

If McCord is half as good as advertised in making the quarterback uncomfortable, he's a nice pickup. Add in Hamilton and that's a nasty little combination with Chickillo.

I hope they're up to stopping the run.

The What

I think by the end of the season our defense will be phenomenal. A few speed bumps due to lack of experience but as the season wears on they are going to be very scary. I'm excited. Is it still July?

Ohio_Cane

Recruiting is hilarious...

"Robert Nkemdiche says his Clemson commit is "done deal" ... IF Tigers offer another HS teammate: http://bit.ly/NG4iTh"

Da U N Houston

^^^^^^^^ "Buy" one get one free

LB

When will the new depth chart be released?

UpNorthCane

Dumbo Sweeney is an idiot... the guy is creating more holes on his team than actually helping his team by getting RN and his boys. This is straight ridiculous, that this panzy of a coach would allow that. Can't wait to beat on Clemson again when the opportunity presents itself. Hate Saban all you want but if he says no thank you to a player whos a so called "star" then you know there's a big problem.

orange 'n green in the vein

pre83, what a coup. Now that Kovy has showed more loyalty to the Devils than Parise, Lou signed a bunch of 40 year old players and let the in his prime All-Star slip through his grasps and the ownership is desperately trying to shore up the financing of the franchise, I'm rooting for a work stoppage. It's not like a third one in Broduer's career will keep him from setting those career numbers high enough on the shelf out of reach to last forever anyways so might as well.

pre83

UMike - Congrats to U! Have a drink on me this weekend!

OGV - Yes, I agree. My thoughts about the Devils were that if they do not keep ZP, then things may go south in a hurry considering the financial stability of the franchise. In all honesty, it really surprises me as it has been quite a successful franchise and I hope things turn around.

The Wild now have to translate the acquired talent to wins on the ice or it will be considered the biggest bust in NHL history.


As for the for the talent that AG has recruited - If nothing else, training camp this season will be more interesting than in recent years. It's great to hear about the individuals making an impression so far. The reason that excites me is that this is what leads to competition and when that happens, things get amped up REAL fast!

Go Canes!

CGNC

OGV - I thought about that ^^. Maybe things in NJ are worse on the inside and that's why Parise left?

The What

Recruiting is hilarious...

"Robert Nkemdiche says his Clemson commit is "done deal" ... IF Tigers offer another HS teammate: http://bit.ly/NG4iTh"

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | July 06, 2012 at 09:19 AM

Dabo is such a tool for even allowing this kid to make that kind of noise. The cancer that kid and his friends will spread in the locker room will be fatal. He is heading down the urban Meyer road of coaching let players run wild. Unfortunately for him he isnt going to have the same success. The funny part is, it's not just one player. Clemson has I believe 5 players from that school signed up. And that's not enough for him. He needs one more to feel secure. It will be fun watching Clemson self destruct over the next couple of years.

Ohio_Cane

Vernon Hargreaves hurt his ankle this morning at The Opening. Don't know severity.

Ohio_Cane

^^^ From Josh Newberg: Vernon Hargreaves ran a 4.42 in the 40 and a 4.1 in the shuttle before spraining his ankle. Out for the day. http://ow.ly/c44P6

LB

There is nothing wrong with getting players from the same school. Johnson and Flowers (Norland), Witt and Isidora (Cypress Bay) and Howard and Lewis (Miramar) are examples of that.

However, if it is a 5-star dictating getting players from the said school... that is a HUGE issue.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I also see that UM didn't offer any of the committed players from the said school in Georgia. That's enough for me.

The What

LB I agree with you but I think if you get a group of players/friends from the same school in the same recruiting class then you create cliques in the locker room. So these 5 or 6 or 7 or however many from the same highschool that Clemson is picking up for this one guy are going to form their own group and destroy that locker room. 2 maybe 3 from the same school is ok but more than that and you create false leaders in the locker room. This kid is a leader among his friends because of his talent. Is he a leader in general, from his actions I highly doubt it. So by having his 5 friends in the locker room with him, he will become the defacto leader and unfortunately for the rest of that team it won't be good leadership and that's. That's why and other reasons as well, in my opinion having so many players from one school in one recruiting class is a problem. If it were just one friend of his cool. But he wants Clemson to take 5 guys. That's going to backfire like no other.

86Cane

When will the new depth chart be released?

Posted by: LB | July 06, 2012 at 11:11 AM

It came out yesterday and U were NOT on it.

The What

Where's 4-Real? Wasnt he upset that Clemson got this 5 star talent lol. Just kidding.

LB

"It came out yesterday and U were NOT on it."

NOOOOOOO!

Seriously. I found something interesting. Even our rivals given Golden respect. Check out this little gem from the "Chopping Block" (I guess they like vegetables).

"Look no further than the Hurricanes’ own coach for reasons why Miami could become a popular pick in the ACC’s Coastal Division at some point during the season. Golden took the ugliest, most bruised and beat up lemons last season and turned them into a slightly watered down lemonade. That’s to say, given the outside circumstances at play, 2011 had a chance to be a two- or three-win type of season for the Hurricanes. But, with Golden at the helm for the first time, Miami eked out a six-win tally that could have been seven had administrators decided against going to a bowl game due to the university’s pending punishments from the NCAA’s investigation into an improper benefits scandal. Thanks to what seems to be a renewed spirit of toughness and competition in Coral Gables, the Hurricanes could be a team to watch in the ACC this season."

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_college_fsu/2012/07/counting-down-florida-states-schedule-no-6-miami.html

Pretty cool, I think. Pretty freaking cool.

86Cane

The Canespace Summer Slam has been confirmed for the weekend of 8/10-12 at the Best Western Hotel in Crystal River.

Friday: Tubing/kayaking the Rainbow River.

Saturday: Scalloping just offshore of CR.

Sunday: Springs diving and/or fishing.

Old Skool, NativeCane, OGV and me are confirmed for the trip. Others are welcome to join in if U are interested.

orange 'n green in the vein

CGNC, if you listen to Parise and take him at face value, he said the Devils finished second, that the money wasn't a problem with the offer, it was the fact he wanted to play for the hometown franchise. Just another Devil's captain who let personal considerations dictate where he inked, at least Lou could attempt to acquire Rob Niedermayer, he wasn't moving the franchise to Minnesota and Weber said he had no interest leaving the western half of the league. These cap numbers basically have made the Wild a win in five years of bust proposition with those two as nobody in their right mind will touch either contract at 7.5 a year on the downside of their career under the current CBA structure.

orange 'n green in the vein

86, that's funny, just went and scouted out your three proposed booking locations yesterday, took pictures and was going to send them to you in an hour or so, but you probably choose most wisely all things considered, especially if you got the 90/night rate.

CGNC

OGV I didn't hear anything Parise said so you know better than I do. I do know sometimes those contracts are front loaded so in the latter years they are not making nearly as much.

orange 'n green in the vein

CGNC,

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/devils-gm-lou-lamoriello-zach-parise-chose-minnesota-180807202--nhl.html

Lou's version.

http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/2012/07/zach_parise_choice_was_between.html

Parise's version. They about match up.

I'm sure the NHL will be invalidating the contract real soon now ala Kovalchuck.

Wait? What do you mean they only pull that stunt on cheat contracts when the Devil's do it?

Next you'll tell me the Kings got favorable ref treatment on their march to the title.

86Cane

OGV...send them anyway just for future reference. And yes we did get the $90 rate. We also looked at the Days Inn and two other local places but didn't want to go there site unseen?

pre83

OGV - For the record, I was upset with the fact that the NHL nullified the Kovy deal. If both parties agreed, God bless 'em and good luck.

However, for a guy whose team nearly held up the Cup, you seem a bit bitter still. The Devils have always been unorthodox in the way they operate and as I stated earlier, have been one of the more successful franchises in the NHL. They will be a factor.

The Wild - well, since mediocrity has been the height of accomplishment for the majority of its existence, I can't say I am overly excited - I believe most Canes fans can relate after a long stretch of ho-hum seasons - but I am excited at the ownerships attitude about the desire to produce a winner.

At least the next few months will have a sense of hope for the first time in a while - for both the Wild and the Canes.

Six

Ahhh, Josh Newberg

If he only spent as much time giving attention to his girlfriend as he does stalking these high school kids, almost pedo-style (and yes, they get annoyed as hell with him)

...... I'm just saying. I see her out ... a lot


orange 'n green in the vein

pre83, it's not a well kept secret certain owners with more pull in the Atlantic (*cough* Flyers *cough*) than New Jersey's owner have Bettman's ear when it comes to the league flexing its oversight muscles on stuff like this. Some of those exact same owners have done the exact same thing to boot, which is the definition of irony, or collusion, or something akin to the two.

What will be really interesting to watch is the Wild's owner try to plead poverty at the collective bargaining agreement table when HE JUST SPENT ALMOST 100 MILLION FOR TWO PLAYERS OVER 13 YEARS! Watch, it will happen, he's got a seat reserved already to do so.

Ohio_Cane

Derrick Rose re-injured his ACL in rehab this morning. An MRI confirmed he needs to have another surgery.


Wow. Bulls are screwed for a couple years.

86Cane

WURD ON DA SKREETZ IZ:

1. By just goin off what ive seen through the way Deon trainin hes goin to be put at safety. They will give him time at CB in case of injury or passin teams that tossin it most the time. Not enough boiz showinout at safety to be solid backups. AJ showed some skillz back there but that about it.

2. At CB I would say goin into these live practices comin up Gunts, TH3, Fins, McGee and maybe Hope but I aint sold on that boi yet. Between Tonio, Nate and Vernon they will all see action, it all depends on their run tacklin support. Thats why its so nice to have Deon cause he could slide right in if the others aint ready for the bright lights.

3. The secondary is in much better shape then I thought it would be at right now. IF McGee could just get into his f n head that it aint illegal to actually catch the ball then I actually would be higher on the secondary. Ballah is finally usin his speed to play CB not to just challenge everyone in the 40 lol. Anyone in the state of Florida will be hearin Coach D and Al scream at least 5 times durin the live practices for McGee to just catch the da&@ ball.

Ohio_Cane

Derrick Rose re-injured his ACL in rehab this morning. An MRI confirmed he needs to have another surgery.


Wow. Bulls are screwed for a couple years.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | July 06, 2012 at 04:22 PM
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Never mind. Was a fake Broussard account on Twitter...

pre83

OGV - The sad part about that whole thing is that a contract can be nullified by the league. I mean, let's be honest, how in the hell is that not an item not spelled out in very definitive terms.

I have been a sports fan my entire life, and until just recent years, I don't recall commissioners negating trades (NBA) or contracts (NHL).

You don't have to be the smartest rube to realize that a better arrangement is sorely needed as the current one only breeds problems that can't be kicked down the road forever.

SinisterCane

Can we please sink McGee below the depth chart:/

LB

"1. By just goin off what ive seen through the way Deon trainin hes goin to be put at safety."

They need it.

86Cane

Canespace 2012 T-shirt updates:

1. For those who sent their donations: THANK U!

2. For those I think I still owe T-shirts I have Terrance, CGNC, and Canesteeler.

Am I missing anybody else?

86Cane

BTW...if I told U that there are several players' parents that read Canespace, would U believe me? Well U should!

longtimecanefan

86cane

need one shirt at longtimecanefan....

LB

Why wouldn't they read superior journalism? Their kids are smart enough to be Canes, no?

Hello to Canes' family!

86Cane

Longtime...email me at:

canespace86@aol.com

Ohio_Cane

Ray Allen to Miami!!! Yaaaaa!!

CaneRock

Ray Allen to Miami!!! Yaaaaa!!

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | July 06, 2012 at 10:11 PM

YUP!!!!!

MIAMI HEAT

Miami Heat bolsters lineup with addition of sharpshooter Ray Allen

BY BARRY JACKSON The Miami Herald

Ray Allen rejects a larger financial offer from the Celtics to join the Heat – a move that boosts Miami’s bench and weakens one of its chief rivals.

A splendid summer just got even better for the Miami Heat.

Ray Allen, the NBA’s all-time leader in three-point field goals, is leaving Boston to join the NBA champion.

Allen rejected a two-year, $12 million offer from the Celtics to take a two-year, $6.3 million deal from the Heat – a move that bolsters Miami’s bench and weakens one of its chief Eastern Conference rivals.
The news was broken Friday night by Heat owner Micky Arison, who got a call from team president Pat Riley.

“It’s 2:30 a.m. in London and I was just woken up with great news,” Arison posted on Twitter. “Welcome to the family, No. 20.”
Allen’s agent also confirmed the news. Under NBA rules, Allen cannot sign with the Heat until July 11.

Allen turns 37 on July 20 but shows no sign of diminished skills. He set a career mark by making 44 percent of his three-point attempts two years ago, then topped that by shooting 45 percent on threes this past season, which ranked fourth in the league.

LeBron James and Dwyane Wade lobbied Allen to join the Heat in recent days through Twitter, and Riley and coach Erik Spoelstra made a convincing sales pitch to the 10-time All Star during a Thursday meeting at AmericanAirlines Arena.

Allen was very impressed and also felt a comfort level with Heat officials while dining with several of them Thursday night at Il Gabbiano on Brickell Avenue – a group including Riley, Spoelstra, CEO Nick Arison, Andy Elisburg and Alonzo Mourning.

Allen flew home to Boston on Friday morning, then made the decision later in the day.

According to Yahoo!, Allen’s decision was significantly influenced by a deteriorating relationship with Boston point guard Rajon Rondo, , and also hard feelings about the fact the Celtics nearly traded him to Memphis in February.

REST of the article here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/06/2885419/micky-arison-tweets-that-ray-allen.html#storylink=cpy

TheWhat

The nba needs to contract and ASAP. With all these stars being concentrated on a few teams it's time to eliminate 4 or so teams. Bobcats, kings, wizards, hornets. As big time players consolidate into super teams there will be more and more teams playing bobcats type basketball eroding the quality of the nba.

Willie Will in Nashville

^^^^^^

TheWhat, exactly. That's why the nba isn't fun to watch anymore. This is the nba not wwe where everybody should be tag teaming. What happened to the days were the best players played against each other and only teamed up for all-star games and olympics?????

86Cane

What happened to the days were the best players played against each other and only teamed up for all-star games and olympics?????

Posted by: Willie Will in Nashville | July 07, 2012 at 01:37 AM

Those days are over.

Clwtrdan

"Class that never could not deliver the team to the promised land." Does that mean they always delivered the team to the promised land? Or am I confused?

Pbcfrcane13

You can thank Danny Ainge and Kevin McCale for all this happening.....When Kevin gave Garnett to Ainge and the Celtics for nothing and than Ray Allan joined.....Lebron and Bosh saw they had no choice to get through them alone.....now everybody sees you cant be alone and beat the Heat so they need to do it. It all started with that BS trade. IMO of course lol.

Hey though this has been going on before Kobe wanted to leave the Lakers if they didnt get better players.....Barkley left Philly cause they sucked and he wanted to play with better players.....who was it Kareem left the bucks to LA for a btter team.....Jordan couldnt win till he got a top 50 player on his team. No NBA team ever one alone now instead of waiting for a team to do something players are making the moves so they dont waste there careers....look at ROse he has no shoot with that team in chicago, Howard knows he has no shoot, why stay and waste your career. James saw the same thing

Pbcfrcane13

BTW just DL my early NCAA 12 man I love this game feels like opening day for me!!!

Willie Will in Nashville

Pbc,

You downloaded the demo or the real game?

Pbcfrcane13

I just made thunder struck the canes entrance song in this song.....and man we need to make that our new pregame entrance song before we run out....can become the new enter sandman.

Pbcfrcane13

Yes, I am an Ea sport season ticket holder....I acutally bought it thinking it would give me all the courses in tiger woods, but it didnt.....but It does allow me to download all the games 3 days early.

Pbcfrcane13

real game btw

Old Skool

As a fan, I don't have a problem with the Heat. They're the Yankees with a salary cap - a team put together because a group of players wants to play together.

It may last for a while until Lebron gets old, moves on or another group of players decide to take salary cuts to win a championship.

Unlike the Yanks, this is player driven not owner driven, so one team can't dominate year after year because of superior financial resources.

Willie Will in Nashville

Pbc,

So its not available for anyone to download??

Pbcfrcane13

Only if you are an ea sport season ticket holder.....it was 25 bucks for the year and every game you get to DL 3 days prior and some other stuff weird thing looks like they made Dillard better than Duke

Pbcfrcane13

My guess that changes in the updated rosters

CaneRock

Posted on Saturday, 07.07.12

Vikings RB Peterson arrested in Houston

The Associated Press
HOUSTON -- Minnesota Vikings star running back Adrian Peterson has been arrested in Houston on a charge of resisting arrest.

Peterson, who is from Palestine, Texas, remains in a Houston jail on a $1,000 bond, according to information on the Houston Police Department website.

Team spokesman Bob Hagan said Saturday that the Vikings "are aware of the situation and are gathering more information."

No further details were available on the arrest. A Houston police spokesman didn't immediately return a call from The Associated Press.

SinisterCane

As soon as I get the game I'm gonna edit one of those QB's into the all world Ken Dorsey:)

SinisterCane

Hopefully the rosters are ready to download onn the 10th :)

Pbcfrcane13

everthing I looked up says maybe wed....thur for the named rosters.....but they do have Dewey and Crow with Dewey being better....EA sports is

JUST SAYING lol

86Cane

but they do have Dewey and Crow with Dewey being better.

JUST SAYING lol

Posted by: Pbcfrcane13 | July 07, 2012 at 03:11 PM

That's messed up, Crow will start.

JUST SAYING lol

orange 'n green in the vein

/\/\/\

Three years from now if he keeps his head on straight, shuts down his social network sites and learns not to lower his head against oncoming tacklers during play.

SinisterCane

If Crow Starts that means Morris and Williams are poop and piss

86Cane

If Crow Starts that means Morris and Williams are poop and piss

Posted by: SinisterCane | July 07, 2012 at 06:49 PM

No poop and piss were Kyle and Kirby.

Crow is better than ALL of them.

Montreal-Cane

Just one day after a charge of domestic violence and another of assault were filed against Ohio State Buckeyes linebacker Storm Klein, and only hours after his arraignment in Franklin County Municipal Court, coach Urban Meyer dismissed the senior from the program citing the serious nature of the case.

That's how many arrets so far under Meyer at Ohio Sate???


"The charges filed against Klein violate the core values of the Ohio State football program," Meyer said in a school release. "As a result, Storm has been removed from the team. It has been made very clear that this type of charge will result in dismissal.

More on Ohio State
Everything Ohio State, from recruiting to news to game coverage, is available at ESPN.com's BuckeyeNation.


More:
• ESPN.com Recruiting coverage
• ESPN.com's Big Ten blog

"If there are any changes in the charges, we will re-evaluate his status."


Klein entered a plea of not guilty in court on Saturday morning, with a temporary protection order issued that keeps him away from the unnamed complainant, bars him from using drugs and alcohol and prevents him from possessing a firearm as a condition of his bond.


First-year Ohio State coach Meyer hasn't wasted any time establishing disciplinary standards for the Buckeyes, and he didn't take long to make up his mind in the face of the latest alleged violation of them, either.

SlingBlade

What happened to the days were the best players played against each other and only teamed up for all-star games and olympics?????

Posted by: Willie Will in Nashville | July 07, 2012 at 01:37 AM

and when exactly was this?
magic had kareem, worthy, cooper
larry had mchale, johnson, parrish
isaiah had dumars, rodman, lambeer
dr j had moses malone and bobby jones
jordan had pippen, cartwright, rodman

remember the lakers that had kobe shaq malone payton horry mitch richmond rick fox

so please tell me, when did one player lead a team to a championship?

Willie Will in Nashville

Slingblade,

Da bulls wuz garbage without Jordan. You wouldn't know who pippen wuz had he not played for da bulls, Jordan made him who he is. And they won before rodman got there. Da bulls wuz Jordan and all role players.

What I'm really talking about is players trying to get together to win a championship, like gossiping at the Olympics about it. Jordan never talked to rodman or anybody else about playing for da bulls. Jordan was quoted saying "I wanted to play against the best, not play with them"

Ohio_Cane

Anderson Silva wins!!!!!!

pre83

AG requires that the players to whom he offers a scholarship be versatile and have the ability to play multiple positions.

I have to believe that the line of thinking is drawn from the evolution of the game explained very well in this article - Good read:

Cosell Talks: The Evolving Chess Match by Greg Cosell

http://nflfilms.nfl.com/2012/07/06/cosell-talks-the-evolving-chess-match/?module=HP11_content_stream

Q

Actually. Jordan told the front office to get rodman and kerr.. Teams build up through free agency. Doesnt matter to me.. Im happy for lebron

LB

I'm not going to blame a coach for arrests under his watch (there have been some snippets under Golden)...

...but those arrests sure follow Meyer around, don't they?

roachcane77

I think the problem with Urban is his "usual" reaction to arrests in the past. Everything was covered up or dealt with internally and the players remained on the field.

It's actually nice to see that he has dismissed this player from the team. We'll see if it "sticks" or not... (If we go by recent history, this player will be a starter in the Fall.)

The worst part of that article was seeing that Urban has stolen AG's vocabulary & philosophy of "core values" for the program. A program under Urban Liar having core values? LOL

pbcfrcane13

Btw JOrdan didnt win a thing till Pippen got there......he failed for 7 years before he won and that was after pippen got there so not even the greatest player of all time could do it alone....

Willie Will in Nashville

pbc,

pippen wuz no super star when he joined da bulls. Jordan made pippen into a star by playing against him everyday, and jordan said that his self btw. d wade and bosh were self made super stars already. so lebron played wit two self made super stars and jordan played wit one that he molded his self

Willie Will in Nashville

Anybody know were trolls live?????? Cuz i know what they eat lol

4-Real

LEBRON DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY @ CLEVELAND WHEN HE SINGLE HANDEDLY TOOK CLEVELAND 2 THE FINALS AGAINST SAN ANTONIO!

Willie Will in Nashville

4-real, you are correct, but he didn't win

4-Real

LeBron didn't win Willie cuz he didn't have any help like Jordan, Magic, Bird, Moses, Doctor J, Shaq etc...

4-Real

LeBron didn't win Willie Will cuz he didn't have any help like Magic, Bird, Julius, Shaq, Isaiah, Garnett, Pierce, Olaujawan, Duncan, Robinson, Drexler etc.. That's the point Willie, NO ONE HAS DONE IT ALONE!!

CaneRock

pippen wuz no super star when he joined da bulls. Jordan made pippen into a star by playing against him everyday, and jordan said that his self btw. d wade and bosh were self made super stars already. so lebron played wit two self made super stars and jordan played wit one that he molded his self

Posted by: Willie Will in Nashville | July 08, 2012 at 01:23 PM

Is that right? So WHY THE HELL! can't Jordan "mold" the Bobcats FROM being the laughing stock of the NBA.

CaneRock

Is that right? So WHY THE HELL! can't Jordan "mold" the Bobcats FROM being the laughing stock of the NBA.

Posted by: CaneRock | July 08, 2012 at 03:02 PM

And WHY THE HELL! can't Jordan mold Lil' Marcus from going to jail, in out of all places...OMAHA NEBRASKA!

And WHY THE HELL! couldn't Jordan mold the Washington Wizards, into at least a competitive team.

MUTHAPHUCK JORDAN!

4-Real

JORDAN is only human CaneRock

4-Real

MAN!!! THIS FOOL IS ALL OVER DA SKREETZ MEAT!!!

LB

Please, go post elsewhere. We're just fine without you. And tell your sister hello.

"Sell crazy someplace else... we're all stocked up here."

pbcfrcane13

Ok well why couldnt Jordan mold any of his teammated before Pippen got there? Also didnt Pippen take that same team to the Conf Finals without Jordan.....So yea Pippen was good with or without Jordan. Jordan needed a top player to win his rings not taking anything away from him hes still great if not the best, but to say Jordan did it alone is not right IMO

orange 'n green in the vein

Must be the weekend, a low IQ poster is rambling on about sh!t they still don't know anything about.

Willie Will, in all seriousness, I wonder how much of the anti-world champ talking points you really believe, of which you've yet to hit on a valid one IMO yet, and which ones are just regurgitated Bristol stool put out daily over the last two years that you've just adopted because you really don't have that much to base your anti-world champ bias on? Did you care who LJ wanted to play on a team with before he hit free agency at all or did you wait until he earned the right to play for whichever franchise was smart enough to take the biggest risk to clear enough cap space to sign the best pro players to take offense? Because that's what you're mad about, Miami was smarter than all the other teams in the league and took the biggest gamble to improve their franchise, which isn't a reason to be mad at any free agent who took their money.

4-Real

Conference finals without Jordan!?? Is that it??!! Anyone notice how the bulls won 3 straight when Jordan came outta retirement? Also, u remember how Pippen teamed up with Barkley, Drexler, Olaujawan & Mario Ellie @ Houston and didn't do squat? Then after he & Barkley screwed up Houston Pippen took his act 2 Portland and did absolutely nothing but hold the young guns of Portland back? If u say Jordan couldn't have won without Rodman & Ron Harper I'd be with u. But 2 say Jordan was nuthin without Pippen is just plain ridiculous. Pippen will always be known as the greatest sidekick ever, 4-Real

pbcfrcane13

First of all I never said Jordan would have never won without Pippen what I said was fact that Jordan did not win till Pippen go on his team....Than that same team without Jordan we took them to the Conf finals as the best player on that team...and Im pretty sure that was before rodman was even there. BtW Jordan did win without Rodman and Harper acutally he won 3 rings without them. Oh and really when Pippen went to houston and Portland how old was he? He was half the player he was in Chicago. Im not sayin Pippen was better, but JOrdan didnt win anything till he had a great player along side him and that guys name was Pippen thats a fact.

CaneRock

How many 'Ships did Phil Jackson win with Jordan?

How many 'Ships did Phil Jackson win WITHOUT Jordan?

4-Real

That is false!! How old was Jordan when he suited up 4 the worthless Wizards? He gave up HIS G.M. spot in an attempt to bring some fanfare & notoriety to HIS club. If Pippen was so great why didn't he lead the bulls 2 a championship AFTER Jordan retired?? It was only when Jordan came outta retirement that the bulls started dominating again, and THAT IS A FACT!

orange 'n green in the vein

"If Pippen was so great why didn't he lead the bulls 2 a championship AFTER Jordan retired??

Posted by: 4-Real | July 08, 2012 at 05:25 PM"

Because the franchise traded him in a salary shedding move. Kind of hard to win one in Chicago when you're on Houston's roster.

4-Real

HOW MANY CELLAR DWELLER TEAMS DID PHIL JACKSON EVER LEAD 2 A CHAMPIONSHIP LIKE MIKE BROWN DID @ CLEVELAND WITH ONLY THE KING? HELL, RANDY SHANNON & LARRY COKER COULD HAVE COACH THOSE BULLS & LAKERS TEAMS JACKSON INHERITED.

4-Real

Pippen didn't go 2 the rockets til after Jordan hung it up 4 a second time OGV. The fact that he ( Pippen ) didn't win a ship with 4 future h.o.f's @ Houston further solidifies his title & legacy as the NBA's most popular sidekick lol

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