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September 02, 2012

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solarcane

its a gift soup

86Cane

Golden said today he has the "utmost confidence" in the defense he is running. Well, it is ranked 106 out of 107 teams in pass defense. I have the utmost confidence when I say he is out of his mind if he thinks that is acceptable.

Posted by: SJMPARMAN | September 02, 2012 at 09:42 PM

There IT is right there.

86Cane

It's a gift Soup.

Posted by: solarcane | September 02, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Soiler the Spoiler!

usagainsttheworld

solar-- do you have telepathy or something? hmmmm. . .

208 yards rushing, 207 yards passing. doesn't get any more balanced than that!

solarcane

Im just lucky sometimes I guess.

I'm digging this offense.

Duke stays healthy and the coaches don't wear him down, and Morris plays this steady we can overcome some defensive miscues.
A good defensive backs coach and a real DC we are on our way.

JameriCANE

Great win, but D'onofrio has got to be in the hot seat this week. Players can't say coaches prepared them, but also say they saw some looks they did not expect that caused some confusion.

86Cane

Duke stays healthy and the coaches don't wear him down...

Posted by: solarcane | September 02, 2012 at 10:56 PM

Same thing OcalaCane said on the phone tonight. Gotta balance his carries with James (inside runs) and Clements (goal line) and maybe a sprinkling of Dallas Crawford. I still wanna see freshman RB Danny Dillard if he doesn't RS.

solarcane

you can watch the game replay here now
on espn3

http://espn.go.com/watchespn/index#type/replay/

86Cane

1. I am told that LB Armbrister missed about 10 assignments in the game.

2. Canes had ZERO sacks and 4 TFLs.

3. Canes were 11-21 on third down but were 4-4 inside the Red Zone (2 Tds / 2 FGs).

Tackle leaders:

S Rodgers 8
LB Perryman 7
DE Green 7
LB Johnson, CB McGee, LB Buchanan and S Telelmaque all with 5 tackles each.

CGNC

Zilla that little one is cute!!!

Tsully76

Hurricanesports.com has a condensed game replay of the BC game let's support our own site instead of freaking ESPN. Anyway on to K-State. Go Canes

Tsully76

Btw has Todd McShay say anything for himself saying BC would win big yesterday.

solarcane

Hurricanesports.com has a condensed game replay of the BC game let's support our own site instead of freaking ESPN. Anyway on to K-State. Go Canes
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I watch espn3 for free I got no gripe about seeing the entire game full screen hd and stopping and rewinding each play.

Whats Hurricanesports charge for their game package?

Sarasota 'cane

Soup you coming up to the GT game?

gus305

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABYPp5J0d3w
Check out the latest Miami VS BC highlights

Montreal-Cane

1. I am told that LB Armbrister missed about 10 assignments in the game.

Posted by: 86Cane | September 02, 2012 at 11:14 PM


Yes he did and Perryman will have to be the leader "a la Sean Spence" on the field with the yougsters and make sure they what is going on.

Tsully76

Solar I feel ya man. Hurricanesports is 4.99. Do your thing man. I just dislike ESPN personally. Solar what's your feelings about the upcoming K-State game man. I think we play hard but come up short say 38-35.

Tsully76

How many Canespacers are going to the Ga.Tech game in Atlanta. Hope to hang out with some of you there in Atlanta.

Sarasota 'cane

I live here in Atlanta now Tsully. Here's a link to a party on Friday night hosted by the Alumni Assn. They are getting together before the game as well. Hope to see you there!

http://www.miamialumni.net/default.aspx?Page=CCPGEventsDetailView&fid=0&EventID=1313&PageDetailID=13&TemplateId=11&WebsiteID=3&ClubID=6

Go 'canes!

Tsully76

Ok Sarasota'cane I live 2 and 1/2 hours down I-85 in Montgomery, Alabama I will check it out and see ya there man

Willie Will in Nashville

1. I am told that LB Armbrister missed about 10 assignments in the game.

Posted by: 86Cane | September 02, 2012 at 11:14 PM

Who told u that, D'No or Golden??? Cuz i would expect them to say that so they won't look bad lol

Sarasota 'cane

Awesome! My brother is flying in on Friday so we'll see you there!

P.S. The link I posted has a place where you can buy tickets for $35.00 and sit with the Atlanta Hurricane Club! Another tip would be to park at one the train station garages and ride the train to the game. Traffic up here is the worst!

Tsully76

Sarasota already bought 2 tickets per the Hurricane club but good looking out and yes traffic in the Atl is brutal. yes sir appreciate the tips man

Tsully76

Sarasota the pre game party location that's at Stats Atlanta right because that address is where Stats is

raizecane

Another tip would be to park at one the train station garages and ride the train to the game. Traffic up here is the worst!

Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | September 03, 2012 at 12:27 AM
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How the hell does one tailgate under those conditions? LOL

Felipe

Not surprised my LOF missed assignments, but 10? He didn't have 10 specific assignments all game with that fabric softener zone defense scheme.

SJMPARMAN

In rewatching some of the highlights, I have to give props to the defensive effort more than I have. Eddie Johnson was phenomenal, Luther Robinsons strip was fantastic, and Denzel Perryman made a great play on the ball on the pick 6. Plus, even when they picked us apart, there was usually someone in the area on most of those passes.

That is not to say I don't think scheme is an issue because I totally agree that if you have talented players, you don't do them any favors by making them play a soft zone. And you never, ever, in college football, don't attack the line of scrimmage.

Those turnovers were key in this game. Actually, we probably didn't take as much advantage of them as we should have. But it was nice to see turnovers become part of the defense again. I don't think they developed because of the scheme though, they developed because of the talented players.

And that is what perplexes me. This Canes team oozes talent, more so than any we have had in a long time. I just hate to see coaches who see the talent and don't have faith in it. The supposedly talented 2008 recruiting class who thought they had talent is gone. But the recruits since have been very good, especially in the secondary. Don't handcuff them because you are afraid. Let them do their thing. Yes they will occasionally get burned but occasionally, they will make huge plays. I would not want to try to make a living out of throwing against these freshman.

orange 'n green in the vein

"He didn't have 10 specific assignments all game with that fabric softener zone defense scheme.

Posted by: Felipe | September 03, 2012 at 12:55 AM"

Maybe because the assignments he missed weren't to play the snuggle brand zone?

SJMPARMAN

I don't like this leak and blaming it on one guy. There were multiple players who were repeatedly out of position or didn't know their assignments. Throwing a player under the bus like that is wrong.

Felipe

Agreed SJM

Felipe

But I will say that Golden's handled it pretty professionally with the media. I'm sure it's a bit of both, the scheme and players missing assignments. Both however are fixed with coaching. Hoping D'No turns it around.

Sarasota 'cane

Sarasota the pre game party location that's at Stats Atlanta right because that address is where Stats is

Posted by: Tsully76 | September 03, 2012 at 12:34 AM

I'm not sure, I just moved here in July. I'll find out though.

Felipe

Hah, Matt Drudge of the website of the same last name I see is vigorously defending Coach D. That makes me chuckle.

Pre83

For some, the light bulb turns on later, but the fact that it's on is what counts.

Former beguiled Cane, Marcus Forston, received some nice props from one of the great coaches of our era during a recent press conference:

What Forston did to earn a spot - Rookie free-agent defensive lineman Marcus Forston (Miami) was a surprise inclusion to the initial roster. What did he do to earn that spot? "Just the daily consistent performance," Belichick said. "It's no one thing or one play or one day, but guys that can earn a spot on the roster do it with consistent performance relative to the competition. He did enough to do that."

I posted this the other night after he learned that he made the team:

A tip of the cap to Marcus Forston. I know he has received his fair share of criticism during his time at the U, however, tonight, he gets to celebrate being part of the 53 man active roster of the Super Bowl contending New England Patriots.

For those who don't recall, he went undrafted.

From ESPN Boston -

"Defensive lineman Marcus Harrison: Harrison flashed a quick first step during camp, but didn't do enough to outshine a number of young linemen on the Patriots' defense, including Marcus Forston, the undrafted rookie out of Miami.

Defensive tackle (5): Vince Wilfork, Kyle Love, Brandon Deaderick, Ron Brace, Marcus Forston

Forston, a rookie free agent from Miami, might be the most surprising addition to initial roster. Didn't see that one."

I wish him the best.

Unbelievably, if I recall correctly, the first former Cane to be cut was Roscoe Parish - Earlier this week.

Posted by: Pre83 | September 01, 2012 at 01:59 AM

usagainsttheworld

Good morning space cadets!

Anthonyjmanis

I'll be in the ATL at the game. Last time I saw a game in atl megetron and reggie ball were playing.

CGNC

LOL Reggie Ball - that's a name I haven't heard in awhile

How much time do the Canes have to prepare for K-State?

solarcane

tsully,
its all good Most of the time ESPN is on I have the mute button pushed and the stereo blasting.

Kansas State will be a real chance to see how good our team really is. It wlll be a shame to score 30 points and it not be enough to win a game imo

Ohio_Cane

Casagrande - Seantrel Henderson now backup right tackle on new Miami depth chart.

Eddie Johnson also named starter over Thurston Armbrister at strong side linebacker.

Malcolm Lewis is also a starter at WR over Kendal Thompkins on new Miami depth chart.

Ohio_Cane

Manny - Couple new names at DT. Jalen Grimble, Earl Moore and Corey King among backups. Darius Smith and Olsen Pierre starters #UM

roachcane77

106th out of 107... scary stuff there. (Especially since it was BC putting up those kind of passing numbers.)

I agree, no one player is responsible for our defensive woes. (Although when EJ44 was in there at LB, things seemed WAY better to me... just saying... got nuthin to do with EJ44 being one of my LOFs.)

JOHNSON & JOHNSON baby! LOL...

I digress...

There is NO WAY you can put this on one PLAYER... There IS a way you put this on one COACH though... D'No... it's HIS job to hire the right position coaches, and teach, train, and prepare these excellent "rookies" to be in the right places when they're supposed to be.

To be CONTINUALLY burned on the same play, (or type of play), and NOT be able to ADJUST is just unacceptable.

To NOT get one single sack, or worse yet, put ANY pressure on the QB for 99% of the game is why we're 106th out of 107.

D'No doesn't fix this... then D'No needs to go.

Our offense can only cover for so much.

CGNC

Hi ya SOlar. Yeah we willhave our hands full at K-State with all the young players. Snyder is a Wile E. Coyote kinda coach LOL

CGNC

Roach I don't think anyone is putting it on one player. To me it looked like some of the defense in the right place at the right time and some not. I mean it certainly looked like that. Also no one is giving BC props for exploiting a weakness (inexperienced players) nor for the fact that they usually have a tough O-line

roachcane77

CGNC... Good point on BC's O-line... they are pretty well known for that.

Just saw a lot of people piling on TA34...

solarcane

You folks going to the GT game.
The sdtadium is a safe place, try and stay out of East Point and that area if you can.
Outside the stadium stay in a group going to and from your car, lock everything you eve want to see again in your cars trunk.
Marta on game days should be fine, if you are staying ovdernight I'd stay off any of it after 11pm

solarcane

nice sprlling there speed blogging isn't one of my skills

solarcane

hi CG you moving soon?

CGNC

Solar I have the place listed and recently reduced the price a bit. Fingers crossed. If I have to come down another $10K then I would rather sell it next February\March

dj moonbat

I'm digging this offense.

Duke stays healthy and the coaches don't wear him down, and Morris plays this steady we can overcome some defensive miscues.
A good defensive backs coach and a real DC we are on our way.

Posted by: solarcane | September 02, 2012 at 10:56 PM


Yeah, I tend to disagree with the people complaining about Fisch's playcalling. The 'Canes strung together quite a few good drives. If the WRs had really been executing, that offense would have been formidable.

The OL has to be the most improved unit on the team. Both in pass protection and run blocking, they're just a far more impressive bunch.

Mike James looks a little faster, and still just as willing to slam his helmet through a pile. Duke is awesome, and could end up being Portis-like if he puts on some muscle and becomes an every-down back complete with pass blocking and receiving chops.

The WRs have talent, but need serious improvement (here, I'm thinking especially of Dorsett and Scott). The TEs, meh. Still, the short passing game is there right now, so it's not like the offense is totally *broken* in the passing game. And if the WRs can improve, Morris has enough time back there, and enough arm, to lay a serious hurt on a defense downfield.

Love the icon, solar. Nice to see you again.

CGNC

dj - agree! nice avatar. They all look bigger and in much better shape.

solarcane

CG,
best of luck ,hope you have built your last awesome snow woman

Thanks dj glad to see you posting too,

roachcane77

I for one was NOT happy with Fisch's playcalling early in the 4th quarter of the game when we needed to run the clock. (He's my LOF Coach BTW.) News flash: Incomplete passes stop the clock Jedd! I'm not saying go into a shell and just run it into the line repeatedly. But, and I repeat, incomplete passes stop the clock...

Also, after the late turnover inside their 10 yd. line, we should have just stuffed MJ or EC down their throats 3 straight plays to ice it away. Even if we don't score we run a minimum of 1:30 off the clock. Instead we try 2 passes and only burn a few seconds before going for the FG.

BC had WAY too much time in the fourth quarter that WE should & easily COULD have burned...

CLOCK MANAGEMENT!

JMHO...

CGNC

MHO...

Posted by: roachcane77 | September 03, 2012 at 10:54 AM

LOL think positive - at least we didn't burn all our timeouts by the 3rd quarter ;-D

CGNC

^^^ or fumbled with the headset

aaarrggggg remember THOSE days???

roachcane77

Yeah... I guess I should remember the all-too-recent past and be happier with the current situation...

However, when you're trying to go UNDEFEATED, every detail counts!

(I did comment to my wife how much easier it was going to sleep Saturday night after that nice Cane WIN though!)

UMike

Tsully and sarasota...I'm 90% sure I'm in for the GT game..I'm only two hours away in chattanooga...last game there I sat next to a guy who lives near atlanta and he said its easier to take the train then walk

Da U N Houston

It was just the First game and I think Coach D made good adjustments. Like AG said one player can start (Armbrister) due to practice but whoever plays best (EJ44) finishes it. Look at the game, both Armbrister and #31 looked lost. On a third down everyone was playing man but #31 was running zone.

Another example (but also difference) was when EJ44 got beat (he was peeking in the back field, freshmen mistake) anyway, he gets beat runs down his guy n creates a TO. Thats what separates him and Armbrister.

#7, if he doesnt pick it up he be passed up

86Cane


Eddie Johnson also named starter over Thurston Armbrister at strong side linebacker.

Malcolm Lewis is also a starter at WR over Kendal Thompkins on new Miami depth chart.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | September 03, 2012 at 09:41 AM

'Nuff said.

86Cane

#7, if he doesnt pick it up he be passed up

Posted by: Da U N Houston | September 03, 2012 at 11:27 AM

YUP

86Cane

Sarasota...negative on the GT game. Spent all my flow on UM home games, Canespace shirts, and Summer Vaca with Mrs. 86.

I am also starting two new businesses in the near future so my time and my money are all tied up.

86Cane

Nobody is "picking on" one player, just reporting what i heard that's all. And I agree #34 AND #31 looked a little lost out there on game day.

86Cane

NEW DEPTH CHART

WR 1 ALLEN HURNS 6-3, 192, Jr.
86 Herb Waters 6-2, 185, Fr.
24 Davon Johnson 6-0, 188, Sr.

LT 79 MALCOLM BUNCHE 6-7, 325, RSo.
55 Ben Jones 6-5, 310, Sr.

LG 70 JONATHAN FELICIANO 6-5, 314, RSo.
68 Jeremy Lewis 6-4, 316, RSr.

C 62 SHANE MCDERMOTT 6-4, 295, RSo.
75 Jared Wheeler 6-5, 314, RJr.

RG 65 BRANDON LINDER 6-6, 308, Jr.
78 Jermaine Johnson –OR– 6-6, 316, RJr.
63 Daniel Isidora 6-4, 320, Fr.

RT 74 ERECK FLOWERS 6-6, 314, Fr.
77 Seantrel Henderson 6-8, 340, Jr.

TE 49 DYRON DYE 6-5, 255, RJr.
82 Asante Cleveland 6-5, 263, Jr.
46 Clive Walford 6-4, 250, RSo.

FB 33 MAURICE HAGENS 5-11, 240, Jr.
43 Sean Harvey 6-4, 262, RSo.

QB 17 STEPHEN MORRIS 6-2, 214, Jr.
11 Ryan Williams 6-5, 221, RSo.

RB 5 MIKE JAMES 5-11, 220, Sr.
23 Eduardo Clements –OR– 5-9, 195, Jr.
8 Duke Johnson 5-9, 188, Fr.

WR 9 MALCOLM LEWIS 6-0, 192, Fr.
83 Kendal Thompkins 5-10, 182, RSr.

WR 4 PHILLIP DORSETT 5-10, 185, So.
80 Rashawn Scott 6-2, 198, So.

86Cane

NEW DEPTH CHART: DEFENSE

DE 71 ANTHONY CHICKILLO 6-4, 262, So.
99 Jelani Hamilton 6-5, 271, Fr.

DT 98 DARIUS SMITH 6-2, 315, Sr.
92 Jalen Grimble 6-2, 295, So.
72 Earl Moore 6-1, 300, Fr.

DT 91 OLSEN PIERRE 6-4, 300, So.
93 Luther Robinson –OR– 6-3, 288, RJr.
67 Corey King 6-1, 295, RFr.

DE 51 SHAYON GREEN 6-3, 260, RJr.
94 Kelvin Cain –OR– 6-3, 245, So.
17 Tyriq McCord 6-3, 236, Fr.

OLB 44 EDDIE JOHNSON 6-1, 238, RFr.
34 Thurston Armbrister 6-3, 222, So.
58 Gabe Terry 6-3, 215, Fr.

MLB 52 DENZEL PERRYMAN 6-0, 229, So.
59 Jimmy Gaines 6-3, 230, Jr.
36 Gionni Paul 6-1, 230, So.

OLB 45 RAMON BUCHANAN 6-1, 226, RSr.
31 Tyrone Cornileus 6-2, 210, Jr.
57 Nantambu-Akil Fentress 5-9, 205, So.

CB 20 THOMAS FINNIE 5-10, 183, So.
3 Tracy Howard 5-11, 185, Fr.
39 Antonio Crawford 5-11, 188, Fr.

S 22 KACY RODGERS II –OR– 6-2, 210, Jr.
2 DEON BUSH 6-1, 190, Fr.

S 7 VAUGHN TELEMAQUE 6-2, 204, RSr.
30 A.J. Highsmith –OR– 6-0, 202, RJr.
29 Rayshawn Jenins 6-1, 203, Fr.

CB 21 BRANDON McGEE 6-0, 194, Sr.
37 Ladarius Gunter 6-2, 198, Jr

nemo2002

FOUR QUESTIONS

Did Darius Smith play on Saturday? I didn't hear his name mentioned even once.

Why no sacks? The D-line needs to step up against K-St.

What was our longest pass completion? I think we only attempted a few deep pass plays.

Who is going to emerge as a viable replacement for Hank as a dangerous deep route receiver? I'm hoping we still have a fearsome "quick strike" offense.

I'm not complaining. I'm just asking. THANKS!

Hassan

RL3 he lead his team to a 45-0 win Fri. night. He had 4 TDs 2 rushing(60yd counter up the middle & 15yd reverse), 1 receiving(60+yd), & 1 punt return(60+yd). He had 5 carries for 190 yds. He now has over 5100 yds in his career & broke the central Fl. career rushing record held by former Lake Howell great Marquette Smith. Says the game Sat. took his commitment from soft to solid. He said "soft" was basically because the sanctions & he wanted to take visits, now he says he doesn't see himself taking any other visits. He's playing RB, WR, LB, DB for his HS team. CONGRATS to RL3 on his accomplishments.

Hassan

Nemo2002
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Are you in a cave? Do you watch the games?

yes Darius Smith played, watch the game and you will see him in there. He is a DT, you do not often hear those guys name called. they do no rack up 10 tackles, they take on blocks to free up LB'S.

When you throw slants on 5 step drops it is hard to get after the QB because the DB play 1 yards off the ball, Our pass rushers are not experienced and BC has a huge front line. Still they threw the ball 50 times u would at least like to touch him 10 times.

I think the 21 yards completion to Hurns on a key 3rd down was our longest. We did throw a deep one to #4 but he dropped it/broken up. We took what the D gave us but other games u will see more shots down the field.

Dorsett is our Deep threat, other guys can do it but he is overall the best we have for that 9 route right now.

Hassan

12 yards off the ball, typo.


EJ starting. that is EZSTREETZ MAN!!

at DT we have more big bodies then last year but not a lot of experience, those big boys normally take a couple years of seasoning to improve and adjust.

Jack

K state is good. Coach em up and lets gooooo Canes!!

Sean Spence is a Beast!!!

Who the heck is Nantambu-Akil Fentress?

Deon Bush deserves to be a starter over Rodgers.

We'll see how VT does this week, he was constantly out of position against BC, this is the last straw for him. At this point, Golden should just try out the combo of Rashawn and Deon, both nasty hard hitters, that'll be fun to watch!

nemo2002

Thanks!

UMike

Nemo...I only saw the second half..but it seems the d was giving us easy quick throws, one which Lewis turned into a score...I thought I saw a deep ball that was jus knocked away at the last sec..maybe a tad bit underthrown...but Dorsett was behind his man.. and is a legit deep threat...have no clue about the sacks...I think UTough will help that, but we need to depht so we can have redshirts..I mean McCord is tiny and in a perfect world would redshirt and have two years of UTough before seeing the field...just an example

Hassan


Lil birdie insider i know talked to #34 about what was he doing out there and he says he did not know the calls lol he was basically trying to explain the call did not get to him, but basically what that translates to is I do not know my playbook, he is physical and fast but that does not help if you run fast the wrong way.


orange 'n green in the vein

Any defensive player that is subbed for consistently in a game who blows about 10 calls is basically lost 1/3 of the time you figure he's out there. Can't have a guy playing for you if he only does the right thing on first and second down then allows the conversion on third by mixing up an assignment, you'll never get off the field like that. Of course, as a coach it's on you to either coach the player up so he's doing the right thing all the time or you're calling things you know he knows what to do while he's in the game and will work in the situation. KSU will turn blown assignments into long scoring runs and deadly play action.

So the easy answer for D'No is bench the guy and find someone who knows what the calls are. Of course, if his backup has the same problem . . .

86Cane

UpNorth...the photos U sent me via email from the game are GREAT! Well done and I will use them tomorrow.

SlingBlade

ESPN has Davon Johnson as the NCAA leader in yds per attempt...didnt know he was our leading rusher...who is doing their stats, yahoo?

UpNorthCane

Niceeeee im glad you liked them , it was an amazing time!!!! Its all about the U!!!!!

Loco

Sloppy game, but a win is a win. Started the same way against maryland last year but lost. Defense will have some trouble stopping the run against K-state, just like last year. Hopefully they learn from it though for when they play a similar offense at v tech

SlingBlade

Chase Rettig is 2nd in yards passing in the ncaa..but he is 28th in yds per attempt...shows our pass defense was not as bad as we thought...just that they threw the ball ALOT...thats because 1. they couldnt run against our defense...3yds per carry...11yds was the longest run...and 2. they were playing from behind for most of the game...

one thing i do not like is before the season started Al was saying how he doesnt label players as freshman or sophomores...and doesnt use that as an excuse...but in his post game interview he kept saying all the blown assignments were because of how many freshmen and first time players they were using...

i agree with is excuse..but you can not say one thing before they make the mistake then say another when the do..

orange 'n green in the vein

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3. They dropped a sure TD and several more YAC earning receptions under the soft corner play.

Again, the defense got lucky that BC shot themselves in the foot as much as they did, otherwise the final outcome is reversed.

SlingBlade

i agree it "could of" been alot worse..but it wasnt..those "could of" plays happen in every game..we had numerous "could of" plays last year that would of drastically changed our record..

mi@mic@ne

Defensive Line in the Miami 4-3 Defense


The Miami 4-3 Defense was created by Coach Jimmy Johnson and his staff at the University of Miami in the mid-1980s. Its original purpose was to stop the Wishbone Option offense that was grinding teams into dust at the University of Oklahoma, under Coach Barry Switzer. In 2008 at Prince George High School, we decided to implement this defense. We felt that it best fit our personnel. One of the greatest benefits of the defense is that, although it creates a 4-man defensive front, we really only needed two - or even one - true Defensive Linemen to be run it.


Personnel

The Miami 4-3 front includes two Defensive Ends and two Defensive Tackles. We declare our strength to the Tight End. For the purposes of this article, we will work against a Pro-I set, with a Tight End and flanker to one side and a split receiver to the other side. In the Over front, Weak End will align in a 5-technique, that is outside shoulder of the Offensive Tackle. The Strong End will align in a 9-technique, outside shade of the Tight End. The weak Defensive Tackle (we call him the Nose) aligns in a Weak Shade, or shaded weak on the Center. The strong Defensive Tackle will align in a strong 3-technique, outside shade of the Guard. In our base defense, these defenders are gap-responsible. The 3-technique handles B-gap strong, while the Nose takes A-gap weak. The ends are responsible for C gap weak and D gap strong. We do NOT use the Ends for contain! They are spill players in our aggressive style of defense.

Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/1986961


This is the defensive philosophy that we saw in the times we had are best defenses. Jimmy, Wanstat..Butch all ran this style of d. Its interesting to see the reaction to this philosophy of read and react in comparison to evidence that it worked recently was with Butch and UNC. The jury is still out that read and react is better.

Hassan

7 point dogs to KU

Felipe

Ah yes throwing Armbrister under the bus.

Everyone on that defense was unset before the play like the calls weren't getting to them, so I'd hardly call the excuse a stretch.


Wowwww @ Thompkins off the WR Radar. Well earned.

mi@mic@ne

Spill Players


As spill players, our defensive linemen are looking to attack the inside shoulder of any blockers or ball carriers attacking to their gap. This will force the ball to "spill" to the outside. On the outside, we use our Safeties (quarters coverage) or Corners (cover 2) to contain the play. We teach our Defensive linemen to spill plays using 6 steps:

Get Off: Fire off the ball low and hard on the snap, stepping to the crotch of the defender you are shaded on.
Engage: Shoot your near hand to the V of his neck. The outside hand will control his shoulder pad.
Escape: On our third step, the linemen are looking to escape from the Defender. They will RIP off with their inside arm to gain control of their gap and work to the football. We are not simply taking up space! Our defensive linemen are athletes too, and we want them to be playmakers!
Bend: Versus any down blocks, our defensive linemen are bending down the line of scrimmage immediately. We tell our linemen to treat any action away from them as "Run Away" and begin to chase. If the play is coming back, you will collision a pulling blocker!
Wrong Arm: In engaging a pulling lineman or other blocker, we will use our outside shoulder to attack the inside shoulder of the lineman. We are aggressive in engaging the blocker, attacking with the outside 4/5 of our body on the inside 4/5 of his body. We want to blow up that blocker. By wrong arming the trapper, we are forcing the play to bounce to the outside.
Chase: When the play has begun to spill to the outside, we get into a pursuit angle down the line. We want to be in position that, once the runner is forced back inside by the contain player (usually the Safety or Corner), we can make the tackle.


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This is what is different in my opinion. The d ends in Jimmys d were to create problems by penetrating as quickly as possible. I remember in this d how the ends used to come around the outside on passing plays and create all kinds of problems for the passing game.

mi@mic@ne

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2011/7/1/2251963/best-of-the-best-cowboys-defensive-schemes

Here is another interesting article on the difference of philosophies.

mi@mic@ne

i think we are trying to run the Parsells philosophy

Hassan

I am pretty sure we are running Coach D's philosophy. the game is changing guys, from 10 years ago to today the game is totally different. So talking about Parcell's or the 80's is not too relevant. The game has had many tweaks since then.

Tsully76

Last week we were a 13 and a 1/2 underdog to K-State so basically after the BC game a touchdown was shaved off the point spread. interesting

mi@mic@ne

Theres always only two philosophies. If you look the d line is charged with getting into the gap as quickly as possible to get into the back field. The other philosophy is the d line has two gap responsibility... reading which gap after the snap.

Basically jimmies d was to penetrate on the inside and spill the play outside the d ends ...the d backs turning the play in and the lbs scraping across the field making the tackle.

mi@mic@ne

In my opinion our d line looks lost between being aggressive and playing on their heels.

mi@mic@ne

I remember some of our d tackles like Jerome Brown, etc ...running down backs after the play was strung out. I dont know if these guys are so big now they have given up speed and quickness. You may be rite.. shoot the o lines average 6 8 across the front .. i like the idea of getting into a horizontal chase to the side lines .. you would think the defense would win that.

The Dude

After watching the game again, I think the DTs smashed BC guards. They are much more physical this year. On running plays the DTs were driving the back. Against the pass however they just dont have any finesse. Problem is, outside of Chickillo, do we have any other pass rushers? In passing situations it would be nice to bring 5. 3 DEs a DT and an LB. But I just dont see the personel for it right now.

dj moonbat

The Jimmy Johnson take on the 4-3 is freaking AWESOME against teams that run first and run often. It is no coincidence that Miami won so many 'ships against Oklahoma and Nebraska.

If you run that particular version of the 4-3 against a balanced, pro-style attack, or a more pass-oriented version of the spread, you will not get such spectacular results.

There just aren't that many teams any more that just run all day. Certainly there are too few opponents fitting that description for a defensive coordinator to build his entire philosophy the same way Jimmy did at UM. Hell, if Jimmy took over UM tomorrow (c'mon, JJ, please?), he would use something different.

mi@mic@ne

He ran the same d in the NFL. You remember all those super bowls where the Cowboys absolutely crushed the balanced attack.

The new offenses are also option offenses. The only difference is that the qb is as big and fast as a running back and is used being in a better position to pass the ball. The point is the question.. is it better for the linemen to react about the same way at the snap of the ball or to hesitate and read? What kills the Kansas option is penetration up the middle.

dj moonbat

The point is the question.. is it better for the linemen to react about the same way at the snap of the ball or to hesitate and read? What kills the Kansas option is penetration up the middle.

Posted by: mi@mic@ne | September 03, 2012 at 03:48 PM


Now, see, KSU is *precisely* the kind of team that JJ's defense was designed to destroy. Absolutely destroy.

mi@mic@ne

But in 98 having a very young d .. we we had high scoring games... i remember the ucla game.

mi@mic@ne

And i still think that Al has the ability to surpass all of those teams.. he gets it done

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