Not Ready For Prime Time

Your Miami Hurricanes coulda, shoulda and woulda won the game at Sun Life Stadium on Saturday night against their ACC rival Florida State had they only brought their high scoring offense to the stadium. 

Once again the supposed strength of this team became a glaring weakness as the Canes took an early and impressive 10-0 lead but could not sustain the scoring pace with the Seminoles throughout the contest.

The young, talented and error prone Hurricanes demonstrated that they are not quite yet ready for prime time and wound up losing the game 33-20.

Here is the sweaty and distraught UM Head Coach Al Golden after the game: 

Comments

[Zakkee]

I like Golden personally but he can't coach schematically

We cannot pull an upset thru adjustments and out scheming an opposing coach. Like Tommy Tuberville does yearly.

All the kids have is heart and determination, the intellectual piece isn't there from the coaches.

Posted by: Zakkee | October 21, 2012 at 02:29 AM

[Willie Will in Nashville]

Zakkee,

Look at the teams we lost to this year, all good teams

Please remember that we do have talent but its young talent

[Zakkee]

We need to do a better job ob 1st down Al...then 3rd will be a little more successful.

I would love to hear how many yards we gained on 1st down plays.

Routine throw away down

[SOUP]

Zakkee...do U think that maybe if Golden had a degree in Metaphysics he could do a better job?

[Zakkee]

Ok Willie...I'll remember

[SOUP]

Zak...agree about the first downs. The play calling was absolutely horrendous on first down as it was in the RED zone.

Third and 2 and you don't run the ball but choose to throw a LOW % fade which may be Morris' worst pass as he has no touch???

[Zakkee]

No, you shouldn't need a degree in Metaphysics (if it even exists) to make a sensible argument, but he might have more justifiable and dynamic excuses for his lack of coaching ability, for people/fans who don't believe in Santa Claus, The Tooth Fairy, and The Boogie Man anymore.

Repeat after me: the kids are young...no excuses...we'll get better...we had chances...we'll get it fixed...the kids are young...no excuses...we'll get better....

[Zakkee]

We luck into all of our wins

Golden and the crew are totally shocked when we win

Why?

Because there is no strategic plan for victory...just chop away (outplay and out hustle the other team) and hope for the best.

Canes Baby!

[Zakkee]

Night

[CoCane]

I don't know if it was a Fisch call or a Morris decision but 3rd & 2 inside the 15, down 16-10, the biggest play of the season up to that point & a fade gets thrown to... (drum roll) ROBERT LOCKHART??? I was speechless. That was one of the most fukked up calls I have ever seen. The inexperience & mistakes ain't just coming from the players, the coaches are guilty of it too...

This was the 1st game against elite competition that the defense looked like they could be good in the next year. That's the biggest positve I saw in the game.

[The Brown Recluse]

Yep. I knew the game was over when they missed on that fade route. 3 stud running backs on 3rd and short...and Fisch calls for the damn fade!

[Willie Will in Nashville]

Coke,

But Lockhart has been a beast in practice lol

[IraqiCane]

I got up at 0330 to listen to the game via 560WQAM, and was happy as hell until the 4th quarter. I see a lot of negative comments, but it seems to me that 3 of 4 losses came to legit top 10 teams. And that is with a roster full of Freshmen and Sophomores. I am as proud of this team as I have been for any UM team before them. It just makes me sad to see all this sarcastic and negative shit on here.

GO CANES!!!

[SinisterCane]

#80 has doodoo hands

[CGNC]

Willie Will - I like you and respect your opinions BUT when someone disagrees like me or Zakkee about Morris as QB you don't have to get defensive about it. Zakkee's points are valid. I still think 17 is ok but he is not GREAT - he has flashes during the game when he is and then POOF its gone and he is like that bad ankle or not. What we need is good\great right now with all the other things going on and we just don't have that.

Team fought hard last night. That's all I really asked for

Posted by: CGNC | October 21, 2012 at 08:17 AM

[CGNC]

86 - new blog put up in the wee hours - is that some kind of record? LOL!

Co - I agree with your comment - players and coaches are learning. As weak as the ACC is this isn't the MAC.

We hung tougher with FSU than I thought we would.

LET'S GO CANES

[Terrance Sullivan]

86 good job man. Our Offense has regressed badly last 3 weeks and Fisch + Morris has been doo doo brown lately. Fisch called that 3 and 2 fade route was one of the dumbest decisions ever. We don't run the ball enough . The Canes played hard . Let's go Canes, beat Va. Tech.

[BigWindyCane1]

Stat of the game:

Rushing (FSU) 218 - (UM) 29
Rushing Attempts (FSU) 41 - (UM) 21
Yards per rush (FSU) 5.3 - (UM) 1.4

[BigWindyCane1]

Not happy with the loss, but it would have been a big upset for the Canes to win.

On a positive note, if the Canes can beat Virgina Tech, they are back in control of their own destiny in the Coastal Division.

I hope Duke Johnson is healthy for the Virginia Tech game.

[CGNC]

BTW, anyone else besides me thought "LOL there goes OGV" when the guy ran across the field? LOL - j/k OGV

[Ohio_Cane]

BTW, anyone else besides me thought "LOL there goes OGV" when the guy ran across the field? LOL - j/k OGV

Posted by: CGNC | October 21, 2012 at 08:54 AM
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Actually, I thought "Which Spacer is it?!? Does he have a sign with 'Ohio_Cane' on it?????"

LOL

[Ireland is a country,not a GM]

The comments the day after a loss are always interesting. Al Golden can't coach? I'm not saying he's a messiah. He may end up being a turd. I think he will turn out to be a really good coach and quite frankly he's about our only choice given the impending sanctions. As for play-calling, it's tough to question passing routes because you and I don't know the progressions and we don't know if Morris checked off to a different play at the LOS. The team seems to play more disciplined football - our penalties have been way down this year. Given the team is so young, I think it's really positive.

Ride the waves fellas. We will return to glory soon enough.

[IraqiCane]

^^^ Agreed^^^

[CaneRock]

BTW, anyone else besides me thought "LOL there goes OGV" when the guy ran across the field? LOL - j/k OGV

Posted by: CGNC | October 21, 2012 at 08:54 AM

LMAO!

[myndraize]

I just don't understand the cute/bad play calling that fisch has been making these last few weeks,but for the third year in a row the U control their own destiny i pray that this young team can pull a win over vatech on 11/1

[Ken roberts]

Coach,s comments were interesting. Talking about talent and recruiting. He,s saying he coaching is OK and er got out-talented.

Ok, so hit the recruiting trail !!!

[myndraize]

why is my name showing up in ghost form?

[CaneRock]

You know, watching the Raising Canes after the ND game, why do they have Coach Barrow upstairs?

[wartown canes]

play that turned the game was the 3rd and 2. Pick up the first down run out the 3rd quarter then have 3 plays to try and score to make it a 1pt game early in the 4th. That was a terrible decision/call with the fade. The d could have had an addtional3-5 minutes rest which could have really helped in a game where they were on the field way to much. Also I know Morris was hurt but he played a bad game, to many missed throws, not accurate, holding the ball to long.

[wartown canes]

Also we need to RUN the ball more, make a concerted effort to pound the rock. I will say that I am not afan of D'no and his d calls but I saw Kacy Rodgers in position twice to make a play and just whiff,Highsmith took a horrible angle that resulted in a big play to. The safety's other than BUSH who I love,are killing this team in run and pass defense. Also #98 missed on Wilders TD, in position but didnt make a play. Shout out to Gunter though that boy will stick you

[CGNC]

Canerock - LOL I thought "well he has finally had it and is going to straighten out the coaching staff" LOL!

[CGNC]

myndraize - sometimes typepad kicks you out and you have to re-sign in

[Tonycane]

One thing not mentioned is that we have not had a buy week yet. Most other teams excluding Fsu have had one, or in some cases two (temple). Could be having an effect on this team.

[4-Real]

Thanks 4 nuthin Tony. What we saw on offense last nite is the end result when u hire your O.C. over the phone lol.Having said that I was proud of the way our guys hung tuff all nite. Just a few more pieces and we will b a top 25 program on the regular.

[j.w.]

No doubt, TOny, they looked worn out by tghe end of that game and a bye will be good for them. Va Tech isn't that good this year, so hopefully a week off now works to our favor

[dj moonbat]

This was the 1st game against elite competition that the defense looked like they could be good in the next year. That's the biggest positve I saw in the game.

Posted by: CoCane | October 21, 2012 at 03:26 AM

This. And I think it's a pretty big positive.

We weren't going to beat FSU, y'all. They rolled into the game with BOTH a top-5 D AND a top-5 O.

But we were pretty much in the game for all but a few minutes, for two reasons.

1) FSU committed as many self-inflicted penalties as I've ever seen
2) UM's defense played football.

The D still wasn't exactly great. But they were playing hard. If they blew their assignments (and they did a fair amount of that), they did it WITH CONVICTION, not just standing around like they had no idea what to do.

I have trouble diagnosing the O. Morris was clearly struggling, and it's tough to put a number on what percentage was his injuries and what was the FSU pass rush, and what was just brain freezes. Certainly it's strange that Miami's only reliable weapon was passing to the RBs in the flat.

But the D finally played like young, inexperienced, but talented players should play. Mistakes abounded, but they weren't playing confused or scared. They could end up being a real defense after all.

[jiggafras]

Disappointing way the season is unraveling after starting out 4-1. Now preseason i called 8-4. Its right there infront of us. Two 2 win teams, USF and UVA, a down VT at home coming off a bye week on thursday night and an improved Duke(still Duke). The coaches love to make excuses....valid excuses, i hate anyway but there will be none for losing to any of these teams. Duke is the best of the bunch, they lost to VT a few weeks ago and is the last game of the season. We have no more excuses for this final 3rd of the season. If we win out, and we should, we will play in the ACC title game. Lets see these coaches earn their money

[Jack]

I BELIEVE in this coach and this team!

I see us winning 3 of 4 and finnishing strong at 7-5! Improvement indeed!

The D will contiue to improve and I am excited about the future!

[nemo2002]

It wasn't a BLOWOUT (again) on national television. That's PROGRESS, I guess.

PS. Looking objectively at their recent recruiting classes and the current BCS rankings of UF, FSU, and the U, is there anyone out there who still believes that "stars don't matter"?

[canezilla]

RUN THE BALL.SWEEPS WERE WORKING!!!!

[SlingBlade]

#80 has doodoo hands

Posted by: SinisterCane | October 21, 2012 at 07:57 AM

this right here is the reason i dont read or post as much during football season...a couple weeks ago and phillip dorsett was all world then he has a bad game and he's the next lance leggett..now rashawn scott drops a pass and he has doodoo hands...i would love to see you infront of 70,000 fans, running as hard as you can, trying to look back over your shoulder into the black sky eluminated by big lights and successfully catch a 50yd pass that is just off your finger tips...

people need to stop bashing our players individually. if you dont like the play calling thats fine. if you think a player didnt give 100% effort, thats fine. but stop saying so and so is terrible this week. Rashawn Scott is a very good young wr that is still learning how to play the game..

before the season a lot of people picked us to be 8-4..well that is still attainable. tell me which one of our remaining 4 games are we gonna lose.

[orange 'n green in the vein]

First off; thanks for letting me know SOUP! So you mean the guy who came up to me at the end of the game in orange and green, shook my hand with about two minutes left on the clock and said to me, "I just wanted to tell you man, you where awesome all night," before he left the game was letting me know my voice is shot because I was cheering AGAINST his team all night? Always good to be informed after the fact.

Second of all, that streaker might have been the UM highlight of the night, for all that implies unfortunately. Guy jumped the wall on the FSU bench around the UM 30-45 yard lines, runs out through the sideline just as the play is snapped, by some divine miracle gets a play sweeping to the side of the field he's running onto, doesn't get killed or generate a penalty, runs about 60-70 yards to the endzone as the fans go wild, gets his shirt off on his way across the goal line, then gives a few nice 'ole' dodges before they finally wrangle him to the ground. Worth the price of admission right there final score be damned. Now yes, my disgust for the mutants from Philly's scheme is no trade secret but I had already been secured by the fact that both the Virginia's had lost so UM couldn't be any worse at the end of the night in the standings than they were coming in, UNC beating Duke was just the unseen present under the Christmas tree the next morning for me.

The offense is struggling because they have faced the best three defenses they will face all year the last three weeks. Next Thursday it's the fifth best all year so maybe they get healthy and bring their A game for the home fans who are there. The defense is as always, a mutagen pile of radioactive goo. DB's played significantly less soft zone and even a little bit of press man last night but still the problems are starting up front where fast guys are being told to not get penetration in the OL blocking splits and several other problems that most of you can either see and expound in depth on or just sense for yourselves but don't want to waste the time to worry about. Al Golden football ladies and gentlemen! Get your post game loss presser bingo cards here!

[dj moonbat]

a couple weeks ago and phillip dorsett was all world then he has a bad game and he's the next lance leggett..now rashawn scott drops a pass and he has doodoo hands...

Posted by: SlingBlade | October 21, 2012 at 12:39 PM

Scott has dropped a LOT of balls this season.

[LaQuinton]

Just think. Getting 5 stars like bama.. USC....fsu.. They coach talent also

[nemo2002]

Has anyone noticed that the UM football program has been in a funk ever since Jim ("Yamma, Yamma") Flemming passed away in 2006? Homecoming ain't the same without him!

I say Skit Skat, How'bout That.

[LaQuinton]

Couple things stood out to me.

Morris forcing passes
M.james came to play
No Te play still
Besides fr the 2-3 sacks oline played good

Gunter and bush can play..(Kelvin Benjamin pi twice lol)
T.mccord came to play as mos of the defense.. Gaines included..
Too many arm tackles on James Wilder

future seems very bright for Miami. Im proud of this loss oddly because they came to play

[Al]

How about our coaching staff sucks. Last good coach was Butch. He could really recruit and coach. Also, he had a great coaching staff. He built the best ever team. We are going backwards and this is not getting better. Sad.

[Pbcfrcane13]

So can we officially say our season starts nov 1st. Loved the game day atmosphere finally! I hope we can get one for a thur night game biggest of te year!

[Jack]

Can this CANES team win out? There I said it!

[Zakkee]

Gaines didn't come to play, he whiffed every time he was sent on a blitz up the middle. He was the one attempting arm tackles as well.

Gunter, Bush, SHAYON GREEN, Perryman, Cornelius, McCord--freed up by Chickiilo's efforts were playing.

Highsmith and especially Kacy Rodgers...I'm speechless

They haven't made one play this season. VT and Ray Ray weren't the best, but they made plays and an impact occasionally.

Our safety play is the worst I've ever witnessed at UM.

Not commenting on the deficiencies you see on the field and saying you believe no matter what...does not make you a better fan than anyone else.

Not being critical is not a prerequisite for being a fan.

Everyone doesn't think with their heart--show some tolerance.

[The Brown Recluse]

Score should have been 17-3 at halftime, with all of the opportunities given to the Canes. Who is Gunther, and where did he come from? I really enjoyed his tenacity! Jed Fisch is killing me with the passes on 3rd and short in the red zone, line it up and run it with Mike James!
Believe it or not, this was a tune up for the VT game, as Logan Thomas and EJ Manuel are both big QB's that can scramble.
The Canes are 0-3 versus teams that at one time or another were or are being mentioned as national title contenders. All is not lost.

[Zakkee]

Ride the waves fellas. We will return to glory soon enough.

Can this CANES team win out? There I said it!

There you said what lol! You asked a question, if you want to use an exclamation point and make a statement then you should say:

"The Canes will win out, there I said it!"

Al Golden doesn't have "IT". He has: the motivation, will, determination, the right words, a great textbook on coaching, pure intentions, a great personality, a nice shave, a great head of hair, a Sean Connery-like brow and nice orange ties.

Have any of U ever witnessed a coach direct and devise a plan or scheme that leads to his team beating an opponent who was unquestionably more talented and experienced than his own?

If so, then you know what to look for when I say this:

Al Golden is not capable of doing this.

We'll only beat teams that we are more talented and experienced than.

[Jack]

Canes will win out! There I said it, lol

[Zakkee]

I have no choice but to ride the wave--I'm not going anywhere as a die-hard Cane fan for 25 years.

Now if you are telling me to be quiet along the ride, then thats something different.

I don't believe that our loss to FSU was a no-brainer and foregone conclusion.

FSU and ND were not that good that the Miami Hurricanes did not have a real chance at beating them with a solid game plan and execution of it.

KSU is the team that is that good--we didn't have a plausible chance to defeat.

[Zakkee]

lol Jack...I surely hope so my friend!

[Jack]

I do believe! Canes are going into the "soft" part of their schedule. Bye week, UVA and USF have losing records, VT is beatable and so is Duke. Even if we lose 1 of the remaining 4 games that puts this YOUNG team at 7-5. That's called improvement, right?

[Jack]

Zakee -

We have less experience than any team we have played or will play. That's kinda the point, MIAMI is winning and losing with inexperienced young players. Miami was a veteran team last year and went 6-6. If this young team can close strong and go 7-5 or 8-4 that's is improvement. Judge this coach and team over the next two years. It is way too soon to judge a team full of FRESHMAN and SOPHOMORES.

[BigWindyCane1]

A victory against Virgina Tech, and we are looking at a very possible first Coastal Division Championship ever.

Canes did not play well last night, but I saw some promise. The players just have to understand that you have to do the little things right every day in order to execute. You cannot have a high-powered offense with missed run blocks, missed throws and drops. Young teams tend to lack that focus, but the Coaches cannot allow it to become a habit but the exception. I will judge this staff by their ability to eliminate these mistakes by the end of the season. I believe Golden will get that corrected.

The Canes would also be a lot better with a healthy Duke Jonnson, the Canes best playmaker.

[Willie Will in Nashville]

Willie Will - I like you and respect your opinions BUT when someone disagrees like me or Zakkee about Morris as QB you don't have to get defensive about it. Zakkee's points are valid. I still think 17 is ok but he is not GREAT - he has flashes during the game when he is and then POOF its gone and he is like that bad ankle or not. What we need is good\great right now with all the other things going on and we just don't have that.Team fought hard last night. That's all I really asked for

Posted by: CGNC | October 21, 2012 at 08:17 AM

This is my thang, I keep it real, I love morris but he doesn't play great all the time and he's going to have some bad games, so is every qb. I PERSONALLY wouldn't have played my injured qb against our biggest rival, this game was the highest opportunity to get re injured in a game that's not important to our main goal. Morris tuffed it out for his team but nobody cared about that, nobody commented on how he showed great leadership. What did y'all expect from him is my thing?? I didn't expect him to play great or even half way decent against one of the best defensive teams in the country so how could I be mad if that's what I expected, if you expected more from him then you are crazy. Play calling is too predictable, I don't care who the qb is, he's not going to be successful when the defense knows what's about to happen, hell I know what's about to happen and I'm just a fan so I know other teams know that watch film. I told people last week that its too many toss plays to Duke and every time he lines up at wr he runs a slant and we throw it to him and look what happened last night. The play morris fumbled it was 3rd and 6, they should have had morris in the shot gun, why would you want him to drop back with a bad ankle? Why would you throw a pass to him?

If you noticed I use to give D'no hell, but the last two games I gave him his props cuz I'm a realist. If you didn't expect morris to do anything why are you mad when he didn't????? If you expected us to get blowed out, why are you mad we lost??

[roachcane77]

Ya know, I'm just not feeling it right now... I don't WANT to agree with Zakkee, but I'm thinking he could be right... AG may not have "IT." He's good at a lot of things... getting kids motivated and in shape... but devising a plan to make the best use of our talent is NOT one of those things.

2 weeks in a row, teams have TRIED to GIVE away games to us, and we've had NO REPLY... NO SCHEME... NO FEEL FOR the game, and worst of all... NO UNDERSTANDING OF MOMENTUM! Whether it's him, or Fisch, or D'No is not important... ultimately AG is responsible.

We can beat teams we "should" beat... but, I'm agreeing with Zakkee in that I don't see us having the COACHING to "upset" teams we're not "picked" to beat. Yes, the players are not executing, and we have little or no depth... yadda, yadda, yadda... but, not being able to FEEL how to play football and how to ride the wave of momentum and emotion is apparently something AG and crew are currently lacking. I don't know...

Like I said... I'm usually an eternal optimist, but I'm just not feeling it right now... sanctions are coming... we "could" win out and be in the ACC title game, who knows? We're extremely young and AG and his crew "could" turn it all around and make me look like an idiot. I hope so... I just don't feel it right now...

Rest up and get healthy young guns... We all appreciate your efforts... You can still be champions this year... Keep fighting!

[orange 'n green in the vein]

Willie, it's his left ankle that he doesn't have to plant on. It's not a big deal when he's cortizoned up to obliviousness anyway.

[CaneRock]

Have any of U ever witnessed a coach direct and devise a plan or scheme that leads to his team beating an opponent who was unquestionably more talented and experienced than his own?

Posted by: Zakkee | October 21, 2012 at 02:18 PM

NO!
Schemes don't win games, players do.
If everybody in America ran the same scheme, only half of them would win...so a scheme is 50/50 AT BEST!
And NO!, we wouldn't have beaten KSU,ND, and FSU with a better gameplan and scheme... AT LEAST not THIS team, THIS season.

[orange 'n green in the vein]

I have, KSU/OU, 2003 Big 12 title game.

[orange 'n green in the vein]

You can add KSU/UM last year also among many others.

[Willie Will in Nashville]

CGNC,

Its all good tho, you know I got luv for ya, I'm never mad, I just be tripping off some of our fans. By the way I did have my son wit me last night.

IMO, what should have been criticized after the game was the offensive play calling not Morris. Some people have it in for morris no matter what, and golden and D'no, just like they never like any commentators and they say they are rooting for the opposing team, and the refs always cheat us.

Canes fans are CRAZY and most of the time only see things the orange and green way

[Willie Will in Nashville]

Willie, it's his left ankle that he doesn't have to plant on. It's not a big deal when he's cortizoned up to obliviousness anyway.

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | October 21, 2012 at 03:37 PM

Yeah, you don't have to feel your ankle get broke but what are you going to do about it the days after?????

[Zakkee]

Have any of U ever witnessed a coach direct and devise a plan or scheme that leads to his team beating an opponent who was unquestionably more talented and experienced than his own?

Posted by: Zakkee | October 21, 2012 at 02:18 PM

NO!
Schemes don't win games, players do.
If everybody in America ran the same scheme, only half of them would win...so a scheme is 50/50 AT BEST!
And NO!, we wouldn't have beaten KSU,ND, and FSU with a better gameplan and scheme... AT LEAST not THIS team, THIS season.

Posted by: CaneRock | October 21, 2012 at 03:37 PM

This says it all...i rest my case...lol!

By the way, I said that we couldn't beat KSU with any sort of scheme--they have better talent, experience and most importantly, coaching than we do.

ND and FSU were beatable teams...U are just used to accepting less and subsequently losing CaneRock.

Very sad characteristics for a Canes fan.

[CGNC]

Roach I think what we are witnessing is our coach is a freshmore as well. He is also growing and learning I think. Will it be enough? Dunno, but he is who we have.

[CGNC]

I think we win out. There I said it.

[Zakkee]

roachcane, I salute you for admitting that you just don't want to agree with me. I believe thats a covertly popular sentiment around here, but it takes a man to override the personal and roll with what your own wisdom and reason tells you.

I don't want to believe what I'm saying either. I don't benefit or get any kicks out of this.

[Zakkee]

Roach I think what we are witnessing is our coach is a freshmore as well. He is also growing and learning I think. Will it be enough? Dunno, but he is who we have.

Posted by: CGNC | October 21, 2012 at 04:16 PM

There it is right there ^^^

[CGNC]

WWIN: We need consistent play at the QB position and we are NOT getting it.

[Zakkee]

Roach, you are right on about the "understanding of momentum"--that post was pure genius! What we are seeing is very difficult to articulate and you did a great job sir.

[CGNC]

Zakkee - I realized that when he had one of his first interviews with ESPN - LOL. Its one thing to be on the field after practice and answer questions and another to be doing it under the bright lights so to speak

[Montreal-Cane]

I think we win out. There I said it.

Posted by: CGNC | October 21, 2012 at 04:18 PM

I have this feeling too.

[USAFCane]

I don't know what to think anymore, the biggest game of the season is VT so there's plenty to play for but I'm not hopeful, discouraged more like. When do we ever beat VT in game that means something?

Left some plays on the O that could have made a difference but were beaten fair and square.

They are young, I was watching UF game, they had 1 soph on their D, the rest Jr and Srs.

Alambama get 5 star players and coach them up with elite coaches, Elite coaches cost money (i think most elite players might do also), canes staff is low budget, you get what you pay for.

I think this team is top 25/real ACC contender next year. I believe that is now the best we can hope for, college football has moved on and this program is not in any position to keep up.

I guess we're ACC contender this year despite our many flaws, VT games is everything, win and we may win out, lose, division slips away, most likely the season.

I'll go out on a limb and say VT is by far AG's biggest game of his career, it is a game the Canes can win but will they?

[Willie Will in Nashville]

CGNC,

We need consistent play calling from our OC and we are not getting it.

[Dan]

Team played hard. Thats all im looking for. We are completely outmanned right now.

D is getting better especially the youngsters in the secondary. Our seniors are a dumpster fire especially Rogers.

Time and recruiting will fix what ails us.

[Zakkee]

We have less experience than any team we have played or will play. That's kinda the point, MIAMI is winning and losing with inexperienced young players. Miami was a veteran team last year and went 6-6. If this young team can close strong and go 7-5 or 8-4 that's is improvement. Judge this coach and team over the next two years. It is way too soon to judge a team full of FRESHMAN and SOPHOMORES.

Posted by: Jack | October 21, 2012 at 02:49 PM

Jack, when you get a chance can you run down my rights or rules for being a Miami Hurricane fan please (seriously)?

This post is all over the place lol!

So one must wait 3 to 4 seasons before their mind is able to form an opinion or concept of how are coaches coach or players perform?

Should I not watch the Miami Hurricanes until 2014? I mean that's when I'd be justifiably allowed to critique right?

If youth is the issue and we were a veteran team last year, then what happened last season?

Are Golden and his staff finished products (where they should be in every phase of coaching a college football team?) I mean he is an adult, has some experience, and was hired to be a total package correct? Is he a work in progress?

Let me suggest a better argument for those who don't want to hear any criticism of the coaching staff and dismiss any inclination that leaders should hold any accountability for the performance of their subordinates:

Like CGNC just said, even though Golden and the gang don't want to admit it--they are young and experienced as well. If Golden expressed this I'd back off. He has asked Us to hold him accountable and thats what I do...its really simple.

He says, give the kids sometime, we gotta bring in more talent--why is he doing this too himself.

Its the same as Lebron James: you can't call yourself "the king", "the chosen one", count off 5 or 6 championships beforehand, attention-seek with the media (The Decision) and not attract any accountability to your own statements.

Golden is not a victim...he has asked for this.

[Zakkee]

Team played hard. Thats all im looking for. We are completely outmanned right now.

D is getting better especially the youngsters in the secondary. Our seniors are a dumpster fire especially Rogers.

Time and recruiting will fix what ails us.

Posted by: Dan | October 21, 2012 at 04:50 PM

These exact words can be found in the blog video above.

[86Cane]

Just back to the CCC in the 863.

What did I miss?

[86Cane]

Golden is not a victim...he has asked for this.

Posted by: Zakkee | October 21, 2012 at 04:51 PM

That's what I told UM a few weeks back.

They didn't like it.

[86Cane]

I think this is usually about the time of year that we start street fights and then begin eating our own?

[NativeCane]

Sorry SOUP, Golden voided the guarantee with that onside kick to start the second half. It was in the fine print!

Go Canes!!!

[CGNC]

Hi 86! We are solving all the world's problems LOL. So another season we do not get our 9-3.....

[CaneRock]

f youth is the issue and we were a veteran team last year, then what happened last season?

Posted by: Zakkee | October 21, 2012 at 04:51 PM

So FSU and KSU couldn't be better than us two years in a row?

You must not be aware of what's going on around the country, as it pertains to recruiting,Miami, and South Florida in general?

Alabama's top offensive player (Cooper) went to MNW.

Some of Louisville's top dawgs went to MNW, and other parts of South Florida.

WVU's top dawgs on offense (Smith and Bailey)went to school about ten minutes from SLS.

Some of FSU's top dawgs are from Miami and South Florida.

The only scheme I care about, is the scheme that's gonna stop the teams that I mentioned from RAPING! us in our own backyard.

IOWs, PHUCK! the plays, I want PLAYERS!

[Willie Will in Nashville]

Just back to the CCC in the 863.What did I miss?

Posted by: 86Cane | October 21, 2012 at 04:56 PM

Oh nothing, just the normal over reaction talk. You know how people go into the medicine cabinet after a loss and get a hold of those over reaction pills.

[myndraize]

Maybe its just me but fisch as of late seems to be lacking confidence in his play calling.Why out think yourself when the option is so simple,it looks like he gets impatient when running the ball and it is in the team best intrest to do so.

[Willie Will in Nashville]

I hate to post something from another blog but this was dead on point!!

From the MH blog

We had 26 First Down Play Calls (including the 4 first downs on the last Drive)...we ran the ball 9 times for 36 yards and 1 TD

We passed the ball the other 14 times with 7 Incomplete, 2 Sacks -6 yards each,1 False Start, 1 FSU Penalty, and were 3 completions for 28 before the Last Drive where were were 3 for 50 yards.

That is 71% Negative Plays!!!!!!!!!I

nstead of having Second and 6 7 more times in the game, we were second and 10 or more 10 times in the game!

We had 4 3 and outs...2 with Incompletes on First Down.

FSU scores after 3 of 4 3 and outs for 16 points.No wonder we lost the game!

Morris was 25/43 (7/7 on the last drive). That means he was 18/36 with 7 incompletes on First Downs with 2 additional Sacks.

That means he is 18/29 with out those 7 Incompletes on First Downs...that is 62% and if you add in the 7/7 on the last drive he would have been 25/36 69.4%!

I bet we run the ball on the 7 first downs for an average of 4 yards a carry like we did not the 9 other first downs an we have a chance at the end.

I do not think it is Morris checking to all those First Down Pass Calls...Most of it is calls from the sidelines...

Offensive Play Calling has been poor in the Second and Third Quarters all season...OC gets away from the run game too quickly...

Why does OC call toss to Duke into the boundary all the time?

Why have I not seen the Counter Play Duke and James had long runs at the first of the Season?

I am just complaining at this point...but I feel the OC has taken the running game away from us with his play calling...

It seems like after the Morris 566 yrds...we have totally gotten away from what was working....

Now that I got that off my chest...

Reality...this game did not matter...

Need to beat VT & Duke (will be a challenge at Duke)...Hope they are out of it by the time we play them...Duke has @FSU, Clemson, @GT, and UM

Still it is a 2 game Season! I think we will beat UVA.

Maybe it is hopeful thinking, but it seems like when out backs are against the wall we play better...

OC, our backs are against the wall for the rest of the Season!

Posted by: Its A Cane Thing! | October 21, 2012 at 02:42

[roachcane77]

Yeah... good stats there. Our 1st down calls are unintelligible sometimes... and yes... I have missed the counter play to Duke too. All this boundary stuff is not getting him up field. And the occasional pass up field would be nice too... We're getting too predictable with our dump offs which are practically laterals... It would be nice if our TEs would step up... they're not even blocking well right now, much less catching. The wheel routes to Mike James were beautiful. (We should continue using those... especially since we are CONTINUALLY getting burned on defense by other teams throwing to THEIR backs in the flats.)

[Zakkee]

Willie, you know that "dead on point!!!" post is critical of the coaching decisions that you defend to the end. I guess these points read better on another site.

That post isn't over reaction talk huh?

Well thats good I'm not gonna patronize or be condescending...I'd rather Us have unity rather than be "right" or "wrong".

[Jack]

Zakee -

I choose to believe in the 4 year process for a new coach in college football. I feel a head coach deserves 3-4 years before I start to criticize him or call for his head. I like to hold off on critizing a Freshman peroid. Coach Golden has a plan. I truly believe this guy has "it". I hope he stays!

[orange 'n green in the vein]

Now, now Zakkee, you would enjoy this three game losing streak so much more if you just would be quiet and support the boys unconditionally. Personally I think Jedd got away from the standard run plays last night because he was facing the best defensive line in the nation.

[BigWindyCane1]

IOWs, PHUCK! the plays, I want PLAYERS!

Posted by: CaneRock | October 21, 2012 at 05:30 PM

Golden has done a great job of recruiting Palm Beach, Tampa, Broward and Miami-Dade, but the Canes still need to do a better job of building a fence around South Florida elite players.

Hopefully, the loss last night will not hurt the Canes in these recruiting battles.

[BigWindyCane1]

I'll go out on a limb and say VT is by far AG's biggest game of his career, it is a game the Canes can win but will they?

Posted by: USAFCane | October 21, 2012 at 04:42 PM

Yes, Va Tech game is now the biggest game for AG, and the Canes CAN and WILL find a way to win.

[Willie Will in Nashville]

Zakkee,

I never said the coaching has been great. The over reaction talk is about fans that's on morris case and thought we would get blew out before the game started are still complaining even tho it was a very competitive game. I like Golden but I don't agree 100% with everything he does, I agree about 90%. I thought the team fought hard last night but we had bad play calling. Is Fisch going to have a bad game some games yes but to call for the coaching staff to go is over reacting. A lot of factors played into the offensive play last night.

My point is this, if you are going to point the finger at anybody last night its Fisch not morris. But I'm not calling for Fisch to be fired.

The team gained fsu's respect last night and to me that's a huge step in the right direction so nobody should be complaining. People need to understand that a process takes time, McDonald's didn't start selling burgers to millions of people the first two years of business.

What everybody should have WANTED last night was a COMPETITIVE game and that's what you got.

[Willie Will in Nashville]

OGV,

When you gon answer my question dog???

[orange 'n green in the vein]

Willie,I try to keep my posts here hurricane sports related as possible a the CEO asks, nothing personal, so to speak, against you or your query.

[Willie Will in Nashville]

OGV,

Get the hell out of here wit that lol. You posted plenty of things un cane related and he has too. But I was just messing witcha, is just funny that your girl thinks like you lol

[86Cane]

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