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October 11, 2012

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Gin & Tonic

What?

Gin & Tonic

Great article once again.

Can't Believe your picking against UTSA, never underestimate the power of a good clapper.

Gin & Tonic

I'm watching Troy vs. W. Kentucky on Espnu instead of play-off baseball. I love college football season.

86Cane

OGV...YOUR BEST ARTICLE YET!

Gin & Tonic

Dam. Got some green on the Hilltoppers and they already down 10.

longtimecanefan

My call for saturday...about the same as ND.

Not enough D, UNC runs with power and mixes in the pass. Morris tries his best, but the UNC defense gets a few picks to break it open. As good as I think he is Morris is over due for a bad game. In the end ...

UNC 38-20....

Wish it wasn't so...

86Cane

UM 41, UNC 37

Gin & Tonic

UM 30, UNC 35.

Zakkee

Our offense is our best defense, but the LBs and CBs are jelling.

38-24 UM

Willie Will in Nashville

All the plays I've seen from the nd game, they had more blockers than we had rushers. We sent 3 and they had 6 blocking or we sent 6 and they blocked wit 8.

panamacitycane

Im gonna bite and say the defense improves this week..hopefully with three talented linebackers they wont all feel like they have to play the entire field and trust each other. Offense will suprise and establish a running game since everyone thinks they are a primarily passing offense.

Miami 28
North carolina 17

tjl3909

A shocker! We pitch a shutout!!

U-31 heels 0

TonyCane

Miami 57, North Carolina 3.

A loss that is so damaging to the psyche of the North Carolina program that they dismantle their Connor Barth cloning chambers.

TonyCane

Seriously, I'm thinking 34-24.

USAFCane

UNC 34 - Canes 24

we'll be playing catch-up but wont catch-up this time.

Willie Will in Nashville

A loss that is so damaging to the psyche of the North Carolina program that they dismantle their Connor Barth cloning chambers.

Posted by: TonyCane | October 11, 2012 at 08:34 PM

LMAO

jerry

48 points 521yards UNC and 3plus 10min drives, 17 points Canes wont get the ball much. DNO will then visit his mentor Sandusky for advice . Golden will support the player that have no fault in this putrid scheme and everything will be OK!!!! MOVING FORWARD my friends....forward where I DONT KNOW!!!!!! jajajaja

86Cane


A loss that is so damaging to the psyche of the North Carolina program that they dismantle their Connor Barth cloning chambers.

Posted by: TonyCane | October 11, 2012 at 08:34 PM

And so it is written on this day, 10/11/12 (notice the significance of those numbners) that this shall come to pass.

86Cane

Tony...if UM beats UNC 57-3 I will divorce my wife and marry U. I am pretty certain that I am safe with that bet.

(God I sure hope so)

raizecane

Tony...if UM beats UNC 57-3 I will divorce my wife and marry U. I am pretty certain that I am safe with that bet.

(God I sure hope so)

Posted by: 86Cane | October 11, 2012 at 10:07 PM

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You have no worries......

SJMPARMAN

I can't even get myself to believe we have a chance in this game. Once you have an opportunity of a lifetime, and you get embarassed like that, it carries over. No amount of belief in a process will change that. Morris will bounce back but not enuff to offset a 300 yard passing game by Renner and a 250 yard rushing performance by Bernard and NC. NC 39 (our average against FBS competition) and UM 24.

It pains me to make this pick because I don't want to but I have lost all belief that this defensive staff has ANY ability to change things for the better. Sorry, but I just don't. I may actually save myself and the family from watching the disaster. Car crashes are just not interesting to watch when you see them multiple times.

86Cane

SJM...this team will NOT quit.

They will fight til the end and win.

And when they do U will hide in shame.

Tonycane

Lol...86 cane...happily married to fellow um alumni DebbieCane!

I just want the hurricanes to win the Clone Wars on Saturday. No more barths!

LaQuinton

Miami 45 , NC 24 .

SJMPARMAN

I won't hide in shame I will admit I was wrong like any real man would do. I didn't post that without thinking about it. But I'll modify something I posted elsewhere.

I can't defend this team anymore. I can't accept Al and D'No's defense of the team anymore. Well, if you have watched the team all year, I guess they didn't notice that the team is DEFENSELESS. That have an offense, and probably an above average one but not a great one but they are utterly DEFENSELESS.

You can't give up 200 yards plus rushing and 300 yards a game on defense, and expect to win any conference title. It just doesn't happen very often. ND realized in the 2nd half that they had a choice to attack, run the ball for 7 yards a run or pass the ball. They chose the safe option. 2 runs, 14 yards and a first down. If our defense has any strength it is in the secondary. So why test it. NC will do the same.

I don't live in So Fla anymore but if I did, I would NOT go to the game. The D Coordinator already said he doesn't care about me as a fan, he is only happy if his family likes him no matter how horrible a job he does, and frankly, he has NO plan to change things to make it better.

The head coach has said he is happy to rely on this hapless defensive coordinator. Why would I spend a dime when the plan is not to change anything but to continue to allow the defensive mediocrity to continue until something magically happens when the poor performers from this year somehow develop into beasts in the future. Yeah that could happen but we saw the same thing with Randy Shannons recruits. They never turned into beasts when they "grew up."

The NCAA might do us a favor but coming down hard because this is more painful than sanctions. This is a disgrace.

86Cane

SJM...the defense will show up in this game and TH3 will get a pick 6.

WRITE IT DOWN.

SJMPARMAN

I hope you are right and I am wrong but I think you are not evaluating this team based on the stats and how they have played. I don't enjoy reposting things but this team is bordering on a record of mediocrity on defense. Again, I posted this elsewhere because you were particularly perturbed the night I posted it on the other sight, and I didn't want to bring you down any further than you were. This defense is close to a record for ineptitude.

Let's take a quick look at how this year's Miami defense stacks up against some of the worst in recent college football history. I found an article on the subject from a reporter of the University of Kansas defense in 2011. Here was his breakdown of some of the recent worst defenses:

WORST DEFENSES OF ALL TIME

Total defense: Maryland allowed 553.0 ypg in 1993 (6,083 yards in 11 games)

Scoring defense: Louisiana-Lafayette allowed 50.3 ppg in 1997 (553 points in 11 games)

WORST DEFENSES SINCE 2000

2010

Scoring defense: New Mexico 44.33 ppg

Total defense: East Carolina 478.77 ypg

2009

Scoring defense: Rice 43.08 ppg

Total defense: Washington State 512.0 ypg

2008

Scoring defense: North Texas 47.58 ppg

Total defense: North Texas 482.58 ypg

2007

Scoring defense: North Texas 45.1 ppg

Total defense: Minnesota 518.67 ypg

2006

Scoring defense: Louisiana Tech 41.7 ppg

Total defense: Louisiana Tech 483.23 ypg

2005

Scoring defense: Temple 45.3 ppg

Total defense: Northwestern 480.42 ypg

2004

Scoring defense: San Jose State 42.6 ppg

Total defense: Army 490.09 ypg

2003

Scoring defense: Mississippi State 39.3 ppg

Total defense: Louisiana Tech 510.50 ypg

2002

Scoring defense: Eastern Michigan 47.2 ppg

Total defense: Eastern Michigan 519.92 ypg

2001

Scoring defense: Idaho 45.0 ppg

Total defense: San Jose State 500.83 ypg

2000

Scoring defense: Buffalo 41.1 ppg

Total defense: San Jose State 470.58 ypg

Source: http://m.cjonline.com/sports/2011-10-13/ku-defense-could-be-historically-bad

Miami's 2012 stats

Scoring Defense: 34.67 ppg

Total Defense 510.00 ypg

We are currently on pace to be worse than 7 of the 10 teams in total defense from 2000 to 2010 in total defense. The scoring defense number is helped only by the fact that we did hold Bethune Cookman to a low number of points. Exclude that game, and we are giving up 39.60 ppg versus FBS competition.

I am going to quote something Paul Johnson said when he fired Al Groh, because I think it is very prophetic.

Johnson on the difficulty of the decision: “It’s really disappointing and frustrating. You never want to do these things. You never want to have to, but to me, that’s part of being a leader. Sometimes you have to do hard things..."

A leader recognizes when mediciocrity and the race to ineptitude must end and takes bold action to try to change things for the better. He doesn't stand complacent in the face of disaster and act like it is all okay. I don't like Paul Johnson as a football coach but I do admire his leadership in saying enough is enough at GT. I don't admire AG's defense of his coordinator when the stats clearly show he is an epic failure.

The Dude

SJM,
Those are some well thought out posts. Well done. 86, you are ever the optomist and I hope you are right. IF the Canes win, IF... I think they will need almost 50 points. We need lots of turn overs and good field position.

SJMPARMAN

I know we disagree. You have hope that the kids will somehow play above the norm of averages and win this game. If you are right, I will serve you crow and be happy. But I just don't see any reason to hope that things will get better and have every reason to think things will get worse. And much worse once we play FSU.

I wish I still believed in the "process" as a solution. I just don't anymore. There has to be something more in terms of coaching. If I bought into the process, we would be competitive in all games we play. We haven't been in 2 of our 5 games so far this year. I don't think process wins games against NC or FSU.

I do think coaching matters and right now, we do not have any advantage against ANY team we play from here on out on our schedule, at least on the defensive side of the ball. I am sad about it but I have lost ALL hope that will change until a change is made at the DC position.

The Dude

This weekend is already gonna suck for me. I have a sinus infection. Would really love a Canes win to perk me up. See, when the Canes lose, I actually get physically ill. LOL.

Terrance Sullivan

Miami 41 UNC 38. Let's go Canes.

The Dude

OGV,
This week I have have "It's my responsibility to get it fixed" and "Clearly we're not there yet" on my bingo card. Let's see if this is my week, LOL!

The Dude

By the way, did anyone get a bingo on "Holy sh*t?"

The Dude

The good news is the "we suck" opinions are out in force this week. So far that has translated into wins for us.

TonyCane

Miami Hurricanes mid-way through the season, Record, Points For, Points Allowed:

Year Record PF PA
1994: 5-1, 219-77
1995: 3-3, 154-125
1996: 4-2, 182-78
1997: 2-4, 136-177
1998: 4-2, 225-130
1999: 3-3, 178-128
2000: 5-1, 273-105
2001: 6-0, 269-65
2002: 6-0, 262-101
2003: 6-0, 201-93
2004: 6-0, 215-99
2005: 5-1, 179-63
2006: 4-2, 144-74
2007: 4-2, 152-127
2008: 3-3, 179-139
2009: 5-1, 174-125
2010: 4-2, 176-117
2011: 3-3, 182-143
2012: 4-2, 181-208


BigWindyCane1

RIght now, the Canes need to score a lot of points to win games against quality opponents. Canes need to take care of business at home and they will be in the drivers' seat for the Coastal Division championship at 4-0.

Offensively, this team can score a lot of points when they get it going. Defensively, our players get pushed around like shopping carts in a crowded grocery store, and the scheme is not working.

This is the perfect game for the Canes defense to step up and create some momentum for the second half of the season.

4-Real

Zakee is alive & well, and posting all the time. If your gonna troll, at least do your research, Another One Bites Some Nuts lol

raizecane

Looks to me like RS's team was much better on defense. Of course you have to take the opponents into consideration but still...208 points, wow.

This just in.....the 2001 team was BEAST!!!

panamacitycane

Theres no way to get a next button put at the top of the comments? Im always using my phone to read the blog and especially on game day when there is 5 pages its a pain in the butt to scroll all the way down to skip comments I have already read. If not its cool.

raizecane

panama - what you do is hit next to go to page 2, then in the URL you can change the 2 to another number indicating the page (ex. 5). You can do that or enter a * in comments field, submit and that should take you to last page.....

LB

"A shocker! We pitch a shutout!!

U-31 heels 0"

Whatever you're on, please tell us.

I think it's reasonable to assume that if we score 40, we probably win. Under 17, we probably don't.

Somewhere in that range lies the truth.

Let's just hope D'Onofrio's farewell tour as DC has a nice win for us on Saturday. I think it will.

UM 34, NC 31.

Ohio_Cane

Looks like the trolls are bored... Again.

Feels like playing the old Asteroid video game! Lol

Ohio_Cane

It must suck to post on a site U hate with people U hate all day long.

Ohio_Cane

This one time, a troll verbally attacked the state I live in, and I cried. True story.

Seriously tho, I love Lebron and the Heat, so I get the best of both worlds.

86Cane

By the way, did anyone get a bingo on "Holy sh*t?"

Posted by: The Dude | October 12, 2012 at 12:56 AM

YUP, that was Old Skool.

This week I've got: "Trust the process" and "Certainly" and "The conditioning program paid off in the fourth quarter" .

Ohio_Cane

This week I've got: "Trust the process" and "Certainly" and "The conditioning program paid off in the fourth quarter" .

Posted by: 86Cane | October 12, 2012 at 10:20 AM
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All my slots are filled up with "Again" and "*Brushes hair back*". I win a LOT.

Texascane

Oklahoma State had the 107th ranked defense in the country last year...went 12-1 and should have played for the NC. If they get the drops taken care of (offense and defense), they can win the ACC. Anybody predict ACC championship chance for this team two months ago?
I,for one, would be very happy to be playing in the ACC championship game this year.

The Dude

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 12, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Ha ha. Ah, funny.

Zakkee

Thanks 4-Real. I saw that but decided it isn't worth a thought let alone a response from my medulla lol. Leave that alone its politics and bullshyt--an unworthy distraction.

I post where I want, unless I'm told I'm not welcome to--which has never occurred. I don't fight or pick sides on bull ish pretenses or premise. I don't even know anything about the "beef"< lamb behind the scenes (in depth). But people need to know that they can't control other people and especially not me.

I like to blog about the Miami Hurricanes with other Miami Hurricanes fans. Wherever and whenever I get the opportunity to do so..I will. Its really that simple.

This beef is jerky or even tofu. Dudes probably see each other all the time and don't do a damn thing but say, "Aye we got some Canes ova here!" And thats good, because thats all its really about and the only reason we know each other or ever come together.

Zakkee

I need Davon Johnson start already...what more effort, results, and consistency does the coaches need to see? DJ for an entire game must pay dividends.

tjl3909

What about Kendall Thompkins? Is he that bad where the guy in front of him drops 4 passes and KT doesn't start the next week? I love Dorsett but what about competing for a job every week?

Nomad

UM 35, NC 24. The defense will show up.

UMike

Tj...imo you stay with dorsett, one bad game shouldn't get u benched when you may be the top wr....jmo of course...idk about thompkins...he can't ever get it all together to get on the field..always passed up by freshman

UMike

I go agree davon johnson needs more looks...really happy for that kid

raizecane

For those who think our defense will show up this week......really? Have we not seen enough of the sampling to know better???

Zakkee

Dorsett consistently runs pass CBs and Safeties on slant, go and double move routes.

We haven't seen a sophomore achieve this kind of routine success thru speed and precise route running skill since ______.

...I can't think of a sophomore WR that had the package he possesses.

Ohio_Cane

41-17, Canes.

Ya, that's right, I said it.

CGNC

Happy Friday party people!!
Let's GO Canes!

Ohio_Cane

Jon Bastian - JUCO DT Marquel Combs will be releasing his top 6 soon. He has been in contact with Miami D-Line coach Jethro Franklin.

Ohio_Cane

Story about the local kid I've said Golden should recruit is getting some national attention. I posted this a week or so ago.

http://www.usatodayhss.com/news/article/michael-ferns-logan-thompson-selfless-act

86Cane

"Aye we got some Canes ova here!" And thats good, because thats all its really about and the only reason we know each other or ever come together.

Posted by: Zakkee | October 12, 2012 at 11:10 AM

There IT is right there.

86Cane

RaizeCane...those of us who think that the UM D will show up this week (including me) are quite comfortable in our drunken delusion so just leave us alone thank U very much! LOL

Actually I think they will match up well against the UNC offense and will play more agressively this week.

REMEMBER THIS: TH3 will get a pick 6 this week. Yeah, I said it.

UMike

I don't know if the d will show up..I am hoping they can simple make a few stops so our offence can do their thing.

86Cane

Oh the Wildcat is coming, I just don't know when.

DallasTX Cane

Ohio &86 - love Ur optimism! Wish I felt it too. Maybe we sqeak out another shootout tomorrow??

GO CANES!!

86Cane

Don't U worry DTX: I GOT THIS!

86Cane

Miami Basketball‏@CanesHoops

RT @caneswatch: Athlon selects UM as one of the "play-in" teams in the NCAA Tourney. Predicts Hurricanes will face Arkansas for No. 12 seed.

86Cane

The three ACC teams still unbeaten in league play are all in action on Saturday as part of the four-game slate on tap for Week 7 … Coastal Division leader Miami is looking for its first-ever 4-0 start in conference action as it plays host to a North Carolina squad which has averaged 57 points in its last two games … Surprising Duke (5-1, 2-0) will attempt to clinch bowl eligibility for the first time since 1994 when the Blue Devils travel to Virginia Tech to face a Hokies team trying to remain in the thick of the Coastal Division race … Maryland, which won its league opener last weekend, travels to Virginia where the Cavs are hoping to break into the ACC win column as they celebrate ACC Day … Saturday’s finale finds No. 11/12 Florida State at home against Boston College in a matchup of Atlantic Division teams looking to bounce back after suffering a tough loss last week … Clemson, Georgia Tech, NC State and Wake Forest each have a bye this week.

Ohio_Cane

I GOT THIS!

Posted by: 86Cane | October 12, 2012 at 02:48 PM
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Uh oh... It's back?!?! LOL

Willie Will in Nashville

86,

I give d'no the benefit of the doubt every week. True he has proved that he doesn't know what he's doing 17 out of 18 games but I try to stay positive. Golden's head is on the line for d'no, so he must really believe in this "water break for the offense" for him not to change anything. I think Golden is a smart man so I'll stand behind him, I've seen progress on offense and special teams so the other part of the team has to come along. I think part of the problem is them changing up the depth chart every week hurts consistency. Some players practice like crap and play like all americans on game days and some players practice like all americans and play like crap on game days. So they need to go with their best players and stick with em

Tomorrow will be the day for change

Willie Will in Nashville

Is Gunter a red shirt sophomore or a junior????

pbcfrcane13

Anybody else notice that the two games we have lost this year we have killed ourselves nice and early......Kstate were drving at least getting in FG range and OT fumbles and Kstate drives down our throats. Than Duke drops the ball on a possible TD.

Next ND two dropped TD a rouging the punter call and than a called back TD run by Morris.

So here we go.......stop killing ourselves!!!! I do say it will be

UNC-38 UM-34 AH!

Texascane

PB,

Not to mention the fact that Highsmith has a tipped pass for an interception hit him between the numbers at the ND 18 on the play prior to the roughing the punter. Young kids live and die by momentum.

tjl3909

"A shocker! We pitch a shutout!!

U-31 heels 0"

Whatever you're on, please tell us.

LB! I'm on Cane Juice! I also say by Halftime G. Bernard will ask for his release and transfer to the U!!

DallasTX Cane

14-0 in our favor would've been an interesting start.

Ok....holding U to it 86!

Willie Will in Nashville

Ohio,

I know. On UM's website it says red shirt sophomore and junior and on the depth chart by UM the latest one says sophomore. So which one do you go by?????

Willie Will in Nashville

Texascane,

You are right, we lost that game to momentum. The score wasn't really indicative of how the game really was IMO.

Gin & Tonic

The chances that the Canes hold the Tar Heels to less than 20 points is the same percentage chance of a welfare recipient voting for Romney.

Let's stay in the realm of reality and stop worrying about stuff that will never happen.

86Cane

Uh oh... It's back?!?! LOL

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 12, 2012 at 03:09 PM

Yeah, I just couldn't resist and thought what the heck, I'm going ALL IN this week.

86Cane

Tomorrow will be the day for change

Posted by: Willie Will in Nashville | October 12, 2012 at 03:13 PM

My thoughts exactly. If it is gonna happen it will happen tomorrow. No time to waste heading into the next three games. We have to go 2-1 over the next three - NO EXCUSES.

Ohio_Cane

Yeah, I just couldn't resist and though what the heck, I'm going ALL IN this week.

Posted by: 86Cane | October 12, 2012 at 04:43 PM
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I LIKE!!

DallasTX Cane

2-1 over the next 3 means it could happen next week instead of this week...

DallasTX Cane

Not bloody likely vs fsu tho if we don't got er done vs unc!

Willie Will in Nashville

Change will come tomorrow

Me and 86 GOT THIS!!!!

panamacitycane

Thanks for the advice raize

86Cane

RaizeCane...UM Basketball on Tuesday December 18 @ UCF?

86Cane

Me and 86 GOT THIS!!!!

Posted by: Willie Will in Nashville | October 12, 2012 at 05:28 PM

There IT is right there.

raizecane

RaizeCane...UM Basketball on Tuesday December 18 @ UCF?

Posted by: 86Cane | October 12, 2012 at 07:06 PM

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Sounds good to me......

jiggafras

So everyone and their grandma know UNC is gonna be running that ball against us right? Everyone except No'D. We are gonna see 6 in the box on first down. Im praying we win but we can just write in the defensive stats from now. 500 yards given up 250+ on the ground. We can win the game but it depends on how the offense plays. I think they will play well with how last week went. We are 4-2 and it feels like we are 2-4. Golden's teacher just got fired from his job for running too complicated a scheme that was getting gashed, does anyone feel like we are in the same boat....yeah i know i know, wait till No'D has his players. Bull shit, Groh had his players. Playing 15 yards from the WR is the same if your a FR or a SR. Being outnumbered in the box is the same when your a FR or SR. Yeah i know am whining....but why get your hopes up and watch a team run the ball 20 straight times? And insult to injury the opposition players said our team quit after being run on back to back to back....etc. Fire No'D now. He is a arrogant guy and he will watch us get crushed before he makes any changes

86Cane

Fire No'D now. He is a arrogant guy and he will watch us get crushed before he makes any changes

Posted by: jiggafras | October 12, 2012 at 07:18 PM

You will eat your words tomorrow.

Either that or I will eat mine.

Hope U are hungry!

jiggafras

Posted by: 86Cane | October 12, 2012 at 07:53 PM

After 6 games i doubt it, I know you felt we was gonna toe to toe ND since their offense is putrid as they come. Stanford will smack that shit down tomorrow and compound how dumb No'D is while you come back and clamor at how may SRs Stanford has, neglecting that they lost their all world QB. Im here using the facts that we have put out so far, we are #96 or worse in every major defensive category. I may have to write them out for you but they are only going to make me more depressed. We are not good at anything at all on defense. Fire No'D now

LaQuinton

I know the masses are ready to hang d'no but i'm not. I'm giving him until next year. On paper and as fans we thought the d would be good but they aren't.... So yeah.golden won't fire his buddy. Miami wind big tomorrow.

Wouldn't it be funny if Miami fired no'd and hired Al groh ?

jiggafras

Its funny The worse our D ever did in total D under Shannon was 345 ypg in 07 and #33. Every year since it was better than that. And the worst we ever did under Shannon was 26 points per game given up.. Shannon had is time and it was definately time for change but who would have thought looking back at his defenses would be the good ole days. And btw for those who are saying we are only playing FR and SO, how many of them did we play in 08? i will go look up the numbers and am certain they wont be far off

86Cane

Wouldn't it be funny if Miami fired no'd and hired Al groh ?

Posted by: LaQuinton | October 12, 2012 at 08:09 PM

NO

86Cane

Tomorrow is the first day of the rest of our lives. Tomorrow D'No become D'So.

JUST WATCH!

jiggafras

In Shannon's first 2 years we brought in 19 players in 07 and 33 players in 08. From 07 to 08 we improved from 345 ypg per game to 317 ypg given up on D.

In Golden's first 2 season, we brought in 19 players in '11 and 33 players in '12. In '11 we gave up 359 ypg its has ballooned to 510 ypg in '12 after 6 games, and that is higher if you take out BCC.

Im doing some research and its amazing the similarities in personnel and the non similarities on defense, and remember those offense Shannon had were atrocious under bubble screen Nix

86Cane

FRAS...WHY BE A FAN? JUST GO ROOT FOR TCU?

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