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November 19, 2012

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86Cane

The Miami Hurricanes’ regular-season finale Nov. 24 at Duke will be televised live at 12:30 p.m. ET on the ACC Network, the Atlantic Coast Conference office announced Sunday.

Miami (6-5, 4-3 ACC) is currently tied for second in the ACC Coastal Division, one-half game behind division leader Georgia Tech (6-5, 5-3 ACC). The Hurricanes closed out their home schedule Saturday with a convincing 40-9 rout of USF on Senior Day at Sun Life Stadium. Junior QB Stephen Morris threw for 413 yards and 3 TD, while three Canes receivers tallied 100-yard games – Phillip Dorsett (12 rec., 111 yds), Herb Waters (4 rec., 130 yds) and Clive Walford (3 rec., 135 yds).

86Cane

BREAKING: Maryland to leave the ACC for the Big 10.

Rutgers from Big East to follow.

pbcfrcane13

bring in Lville.......forget Uconn!!! lol Actually WVU would have been perfect....

UCF would be pretty cool to join to.

86Cane

Postgame Press Conference
Miami vs. USF
Nov. 17, 2012
Miami Head Coach Al Golden

On his team’s win… We knew they were going to bring a lot of energy - the game means a lot to both teams. I was nervous with them coming off a bye week. We did whatever we could to get them fresh this week. We didn’t go in pads very much, and the kids responded today. I was very pleased with the effort, and obviously the amount of kids that stepped up - most particularly at wideout, to answer the call, because we had some injures at that spot.

On the performance of the wide receivers… Obviously we really believe Herb [Waters] is going to be a really good player for us. Philip [Dorsett] grew up tonight. I was so proud of Kendal [Thompkins], the plays he made, the blocks he made, the unselfishness he showed out there - he really deserved to go out that way. I’m very happy for Kendal.

On the performance of Clive Walford… Our biggest thing with Clive, and what we keep saying to him, is we have to keep pushing you to five, six, seven catches a game. He has that ability. If he didn’t have that in his talent zone, we wouldn’t push him. We have to get him out of his comfort zone and into his talent zone. We think he’s a six-, seven-, eight-catch [guy], he’s in that range. We haven’t got there yet with him. He’s getting better. Sometimes you look out there and you forget he doesn’t have a long lineage in the game. He’s a sophomore. I’m pleased with the direction he’s going and how he’s working.

86Cane

pbcfr...WVU has NO CHANCE at joining the ACC with their academics. They are HORRIBLE! Louisville isn't far behind.

pbcfrcane13

Oh yea I know thats why Im pretty sure its Uconn I was just saying schools I would love to see come in.

86Cane

More from Al Golden post USF:

On being bowl eligible…It’s nice. Obviously we lost by five points to the two ACC Coastal teams, which is disappointing. We’ve had a tough road to get to this point. I just stay focused on moving the team forward. When I look out there and see Herb Waters doing what he did today, and some of the other guys respond the way they did, the young guys, it’s really exciting for the future.

raizecane

BREAKING: Maryland to leave the ACC for the Big 10.

Rutgers from Big East to follow.

Posted by: 86Cane | November 19, 2012 at 11:07 AM

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So Maryland will pay the 50 Million buyout to move to a league that alsmost wasn't last year? There is a reason Nebraska left...

raizecane

OOPS.....Big 10, Not Big 12.....excuse Nebraska comment.

LB

"pbcfr...WVU has NO CHANCE at joining the ACC with their academics. They are HORRIBLE! Louisville isn't far behind."

WVU's law school went from almost a tier 1 to possibly a tier 4 a few years back. The decision to shut down the law school on a Thursday and Friday for a Saturday game is one of many. There is no chance they would even sniff the ACC from an academic standpoint. They're on FSU levels when it comes to grades, and I'm being nice.

From a football standpoint, it would be excellent. WVU/Va. Tech was a pretty nasty rivalry. WVU is clearly in over its head from a travel standpoint in the Big 12.

Not going to happen.

UCF? Not bad. Connecticut's a descent market, too.

The Brown Recluse

The rebirth of the Hurricanes starts now.
Baby Canes...eat your vegetables now, cause dessert is coming!!!

j.w.

God to I hate UM for doing this.

pbcfrcane13

JW....bro you wont be saying this if next year we have 2-3 losses and were playing and have a real chance to win the ACC and go to a BCS bowl.....as well as in 2014 if they give us one more.

dg

Best decision made since firing Coker!!!

panamacitycane

I was reading where recruits are saying they want miami to ban themselves now so they can play in bowls later, it does help with their decision. This is good for recruiting. This gives us a shot at a real title in the future. Might as well do it during a down year anyway. Look at ohio state..might be playing for a national title this year but instead they played in a garbage bowl last year and now their banned. This is a good thing. Yes it sucks not to have a chance for the first time at an acc title but who are we kidding we probably would lose to fsu again. Just being real.

j.w.

PB- don't see it happening. We are an 8-4 team next year IMO. No depth, no DL, and all of these freshmen are not necessarily going to get better next year (See Chickillo and Finnie for examples). Announcing this late, again, is poor sportsmanship- we don't like our potential bowl game, know we probably will get killed by FSU in the ACC title game, so we're going to try to bargain our way out of trouble by giving up something we really don't want. If they really believed this was strictly an act of contrition, we would have limited scholarships for the 2012 class, and announced the same for the 2013 class.
This is like my 10-year old daughter telling me she's sorry she didn't do her homework, and as punishment she isn't going to play computer games for more than 2 hours a day. Or that she's willing to ban herself from watching an NBA game with me.

CGNC

j.w. hang in there - go for a nice ride and you will feel better.

Clwtrdan

Miami released it's 2 deep for the Duke game. Whatever happened to The Plug? Not on it.

The []_[]


smillerdegnan #UM #Canes, per Golden, are already accounting for a reduction in scholarships & planning to sign fewer guys.
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Already being done jw. The administration is NOT going to come out before the season and forfeit a bowl and risk losing the team for the season. Remember BC last year? Don't think for a minute AG didn't have a say on the bowl band either.

Ohio_Cane

Cassagrande - Miami players 'in a state of shock' over school's decision to sit out postseason. http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/um-hurricanes/sfl-miami-players-shocked-by-selfimposed-postseason-ban-20121119,0,2498424.story

The []_[]

Ban ^^^^^

laquinton

Al Golden knew about this yesterday but I think it's amazing thing to do. Think of the future we are trying to build here. Imposing a bowl ban again and we could just have possibly just less scholarships which im fine with. We don't want to be like OSU and be undefeated and not going bowling. But we still get to work out so here comes utough which is amazing. Go canes.

laquinton

Maryland can leave the acc all they want. 50 mill to a billionaire is nothing. The founder of under Armor was making all the decisions and didnt even include the board of trustees. He is much like the founder of nike at Oregon. Arrogant and rich

Ohio_Cane

JW, they can't self-impose a bowl ban before they're bowl eligible.

Old Skool

The Plug played against USF. At least, I heard his name on the radio. They'll probably rotate more DL in an out than just the two deep. Otherwise, I believe the Plug is a senior and if he's not producing, then give the young-uns the experience.

So is anyone other than Seantrel likely to go for an EE (early exit) and make himself draft eligible?

herbieibis

J.W.
I hope your daughter had common sense enough too, to ban herself from watching boring NBA games, LOL!
You can call it poor sportsmanship or whatever, it's the most intellegent thing we've done, since we got rid of Dandy & hired BIG AL. Even if we bombed Duke, we ain't got the horses to beat FSU and then we'd have to play in some scum-bag bowl, for what, because we are worried about sportsmanship! I'm cutting cartwheels, in jubilation. I hate to say this, but getting 6 wins and taking a bowl ban, is like giving ourselves a early christmas present.
We do have depth, just not enough on defense and whomever we get this year, unless, they are some kind of super hero recruit,they won't help us much next year, except with depth, which anything has got to be better than what it is right now but with that being said, our rise begins now. We'll probably have to cough up 15 to 20 ships over 3 years, but the worst has to be over, HOPEFULLY!

Old Skool

Soup here's your next headline or if you want to change today's ... Ban of Bowlers

orange 'n green in the vein

Q, with that defensive signal calling I've seen the last two years from D'No, there's no need to worry about getting 'OSU'd' next year or anytime after that. Still, might as well play this ban issue conservative so there's no lack of motivation excuses to fall back on in '13 when the defense keeps getting tore up like always and Al can finally be forced to address the root causes of the issue for once in his time at UM instead of his grab bag of peripheral quickly water losing explanations he normally relies on when one of those 'disappointing' Coastal results washes up on shore near the Gables.

Shouldn't Al be getting ready for the 'Odai six wins lifetime contract' offer today instead of answering questions about games that UM won't be playing in anyway?

Sinistercane

I love this place it's put entertainment

CaneRock

Announcing this late, again, is poor sportsmanship- we don't like our potential bowl game, know we probably will get killed by FSU in the ACC title game, so we're going to try to bargain our way out of trouble by giving up something we really don't want.

Posted by: j.w. | November 19, 2012 at 12:37 PM

"We don't like our potential bowl game"? How so?
I know I damn sure would like to see a UM/FSU rematch, regardless of what others think the outcome might be.
I'm gettin' sick of our season ending in November, I wanna see my U play some more.
Make no mistake about it, this is a freakin' mess.

The []_[]

JW, they can't self-impose a bowl ban before they're bowl eligible.


Actually you can as long as its mathematically possible to get to 6 wins.

Sinistercane

Can't wait until the NCAA gives Hurtt and Stoutland anus deconstruction

86Cane

jw...I usually agree with you but in this case I think U are totally wrong. This was the right thing to do and the right time to do it. Beat Duke and look forward to next year because it will be ebtter than this one.

Offense - Everyone is back except Mike James and all of the young WRs will be healthy and experienced.

Defense - Most if not all of the young players will be better and be more experienced and I predict that D'No will win ACC Coordinator of the Year.

That's right I said it!

pbcfrcane13

I hope Mike James family reads this site cause I hope he and his family can see how much we the fans love mike James. That kid is a true cane and always will be! I hope he can go out with a bang Saturday he and the other 17 seniors thank you for sticking with cane family through thick and thin!

Sinistercane

86 can you vault your prediction, I may want to dig that up next year lol

86Cane

Can't wait until the NCAA gives Hurtt and Stoutland anus deconstruction

Posted by: Sinistercane | November 19, 2012 at 01:21 PM

Shouldn't have to wait long now.

Back it up, c'mon back...keep comin...

86Cane

pbcfr...I am not sure about James' family reading the Space but I know that Tracy Howard's and Duke Johnson's do. When I have more time I will give you the full story.

laquinton

Ogv...

I do believe Miami will win 9 or 10 games next year and the d will improve. But remember d'no ain't going anywhere because this is Goldens system ! You remember when you posted the uva vs pitt bowl game who was calling the shots... He got this from al groh so wake up sir.. please

Sinistercane

I wish we could erase Hurtt as a player and coach because he sucked at both

Old Skool

In other news, here's something for your next tailgate. Donut shots...

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Of course there''s home-made way to do it. Buy Krispy Kreme jelly donuts, suction out the jelly, replace with a jello shot.

Sinistercane

Who was the dline before Hurtt that Randy ran off?

Sinistercane

Who was the dline coach , sorry

orange 'n green in the vein

Petri was after Hurt.

Palermo is who I think Sinister is refering to, took over for Coker's last year and they set a rushing yards allowed per game average record for the season.

Clint already did a good job erasing himself as a player by being a snake-bitten non-factor.

Sinistercane

Thanks OGV


Palermo would make NO "d" look like Dick LeBeau

86Cane

Thanks OGV.

86Cane

Palermo spent 15 years under head coach Barry Alvarez at the University of Wisconsin, during which time he coached four first-team All-Americans, four Big Ten Defensive Linemen of the Year, two Big Ten Defensive Players of the Year, and a pair of first-round draft selections in Wendell Bryant (2002) and Erasmus James (2005). In 2004, the entire Wisconsin starting defensive line was selected in the NFL Draft, and the Badgers won two Big 10 titles during his tenure.

Palermo served as assistant head coach during his 15 years at Wisconsin, leading the outside linebackers from 1991-95 and the defensive line from 1996-2005. Before joining the Badgers, Palermo spent one season as the head coach at Austin Peay State University in Clarksville.

Most recently on the staff at Middle Tennessee for two seasons (2010-11), Palermo's 2010 Blue Raider defensive line unit featured Jamari Lattimore, who earned Sun Belt Conference Defensive Player of the Year that season and currently plays for the Green Bay Packers.

Palermo spent two seasons at Notre Dame under head coach Lou Holtz from 1988-89, including the Fighting Irish's national championship season of 1988. While at Notre Dame, Palermo coached defensive lineman Chris Zorich, a two-time consensus All-American and the 1990 winner of Lombardi Award.

Other coaching stops for Palermo include a four-year stint as the defensive line coach at Minnesota (1984-87), service as assistant head coach, defensive line, and linebackers coach at Appalachian State from 1983-84, three years as the defensive line coach at Memphis from 1980-82, and one year as the defensive line coach at Austin Peay. He began his coaching career as an assistant at North Carolina State from 1977-78 following three years at Bainbridge High School in Georgia.

Palermo is a native of Newburgh, N.Y., and lettered at Florida State in 1972-73. A 1974 graduate of Florida State, Palermo and his wife, Donna, have a son, Jason, who coaches tight ends and special teams at Southern University, and a daughter, Jessica, who is the assistant director of championships at the Big 10 Conference.

JOHN PALERMO COACHING HISTORY
2010-11 » Middle Tennessee, Defensive Line
2008-09 » Washington Redskins, Defensive Line
2007 » Tennessee Tech, Defensive Line
2006 » Miami (Fla.), Defensive Line
1991-2005 » Wisconsin, Assistant Head Coach ('91-'05), Outside Linebackers ('91-95), Defensive Line ('96-'05)
1990 » Austin Peay State, Head Coach
1988-89 » Notre Dame, Defensive Line
1984-87 » Minnesota, Defensive Line
1983 » Appalachian State, Assistant Head Coach, Defensive Line
1980-82 » Memphis State, Defensive Line
1979 » Austin Peay State, Defensive Line, Strength and Conditioning
1977-78 » North Carolina State, Nose Guards, Centers, Guards

Sinistercane

#115 Miami 224 rypg

#96. Duke 195 rypg

Sinistercane

Damn look at that resume and we had him :( 86 why did he leave ?

Sinistercane

I guess duke has better dlinemen SMDH @ NO d

86Cane

Sinister...I think maybe Palermo got an offer he couldn't refuse. Maybe he didn't wanna wind up sleepin with da fishes? LOL

orange 'n green in the vein

Either Petri or Palermo would coach circles around D'No, with their hands tied behind their backs and blindfolded if they so chose.

Q, first of all, this is Paterno's scheme/philosophy, yes Al honed it under Groh, but he picked it up from good riddance Joe. Second, I'm going to lay this out there right now; 9-10 wins in '13 = FAILURE in my book. If, and I mean by a nailbiter, UM loses to FSU (new QB, Dumbo might bolt, even if he stays, he proved this year he's not going to ever win a title there so it's time to take the initiative back in the rivalry) and wins out the rest of the way including and ACC rematch victory and BCS win, or better it's a success. You're returning a 3000 yard passer, the best pure talent at RB this school probably has ever seen off a record freshman year and most of the worst defense they've ever fielded including all starters of consequence now going into year three of the same program, it's not time to win like he didn't his first year with a similar veteran team.

Remember, Al said don't lower the expectations, well one game over .500 after 24 months still isn't going to change that so it's put up or STFU time for MAC football schemes in the ACC. Lose to the 'turds at home and watch the seat turn white hot with a quickness, 6-win-Odai-contrat-for-life or not.

j.w.

JW, they can't self-impose a bowl ban before they're bowl eligible.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | November 19, 2012 at 12:54 PM

Ohio- you can self-impose at any time so long as it is mathematically possible to go to one- including the pre-season.

LB

2013:

Thoughts:
- They will be strong in the secondary.
- I'm curious to see how the linebacking corps will shape up.
- Defensive line is up in the air.
- I'm happy we return the top offensive linemen.
- We're in a good place at running back.
- One good game against a Big East team does not make the tight end position. We need a dangerous motherscratcher to own the middle, and we don't have it yet.
- Stephen Morris coming back for another year is really good. His TD/INT ration was good, too. Needs to complete more passes, but many weren't his fault.
- Dropped passes killed us in many a spot.
- We need replacements for the kickers yesterday.

86Cane

I guess duke has better dlinemen SMDH @ NO d

Posted by: Sinistercane | November 19, 2012 at 02:38 PM

Well Duke did not play KSU or ND so the stats are not comparable. But I will say this:

Duke has 21 sacks and 51 TFLs and they are doing it with 1 SR, 1 JR and 4 So.

Miami has 12 sacks and 50 TFLs and they are doing it with 1 SR, 2 JRs, 2 SO and 3 FR.

86Cane

Ohio- you can self-impose at any time so long as it is mathematically possible to go to one- including the pre-season.

Posted by: j.w. | November 19, 2012 at 02:59 PM

JW...Who cares? Even IF the NCAA rules say U can NOBODY ever does that until they are eligible. Your point is petty and meaningless anyway U cut it.

Its over, its done MOVE ON.

Give it a rest and go ride a horse! LOL

pbcfrcane13

Ogv already laying the ground work to rip the coaching staff if they only win 9 games lol

86Cane

LB...good comment, spot on.

j.w.

Herbie, Ohio, 86, others:
I am just pissed we're going through this again. Not saying you don't have very good points, they are very worthy and I want to believe next year is finally the year things turn around. But I'm always going to choose a bird in hand over two in the bush as they say- we have the division with a win over a team we're favored to beat. We're giving this up for the hope that next year is better. There's no guarantee what the NCAA will do, including that they won't tack on a third ban just to make sure we feel their sting.

j.w.

Give it a rest and go ride a horse! LOL

Posted by: 86Cane | November 19, 2012 at 03:06 PM

Now on that I can wholeheartedly accept your advice. :)

86Cane

pbcfr...I have it on good authority that OGV divides his time equally between being drunk and delusional. Trust me on this, I have seen both sides!

86Cane

But I'm always going to choose a bird in hand over two in the bush as they say.

Posted by: j.w. | November 19, 2012 at 03:07 PM

Is that what she...oh, never mind.

CaneRock

Q, first of all, this is Paterno's scheme/philosophy, yes Al honed it under Groh, but he picked it up from good riddance Joe.

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | November 19, 2012 at 02:57 PM

What, the 3-4?
If so, Miami hasn't lined up in anything even remotely resembling a 3-4.
This is what I remember seeing this year:

4-3 Over and Under
3-3-5 <-----I think this was their "Dime" package.
"46" in short yardage, and goal-line situations.

Now you may be right on philosophy, but the above alignments is all I remember seeing.

Ohio_Cane

Ohio- you can self-impose at any time so long as it is mathematically possible to go to one- including the pre-season.

Posted by: j.w. | November 19, 2012 at 02:59 PM
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Didn't mean "can't" as in "not allowed". Merely stating it would look bad to impose before you're eligible.

Imagine how bad it would look if you self-impose a bowl ban, then don't win enough games to be bowl eligible in the first place?

laquinton

I thought petri should have stayed. The dline played very good and saw progress

Sinistercane

Hurtt should be locked in a room with Lewis and Reed. No cameras allowed

LB

"LB...good comment, spot on."

Where do we stand recruiting/current staff wise with replacing the kickers?

herbieibis

Hey J.W., even if they would be so kind as to give us three years, at least 2 of them would be out of the way and it shouldn't affect recruiting because most coming in will probably get R.S. We should be able to punch drunk our selves into 9 wins next year. *All starters back on defense, all starters back on Oh, except James, plus 85% of their back-ups. We'll just need a little more star power, through the draft(recruiting). These other coaches can't use negative recruiting against us, now that we have this out of the way. I can't see them giving us any more years other than what we have self-imposed.
The eternal optimist, OGV just has nothing but hate for the Golden one. I'll admit, I'm tired of waiting for the worm to turn and if it weren't for the greed and self entitlement for some of our former players, we wouldn't be in this situation to begin with. Goldie has to deal with suspensions, looming sanctions, and bowl bans since he signed on with us. Plus the talent level wasn't where it needed to be, so I'd say the hand he was dealt sucked. I'm giving the dude and his beloved DENO a pass until mid Oct. next year and as I've said before, if the results are still the same, then someones got to go.

pbcfrcane13

Btw Golden interview he stated hes already given out scholarships for this class. Makes me think that UM has a good idea about what may be coming down the pipe IMO.

hassan

Jim Morris could be our next AD

panamacitycane

Guys..guys...we are ok....lets just support these guys this last game of the year...hopefully we have some way to watch? I dont have the acc network. Does anyone kmow how we can watch? Ive seen every game this year and hope I dont miss the last one.

CaneRock

Didn't mean "can't" as in "not allowed". Merely stating it would look bad to impose before you're eligible.

Imagine how bad it would look if you self-impose a bowl ban, then don't win enough games to be bowl eligible in the first place?

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | November 19, 2012 at 03:26 PM

Ohio, I feel you and all that, the NCAA's gonna do what they wanna do, true dat and true dat. But with all that said, and in all seriousness...PHUCK! Mark Emmert's monkey ass and His NCAA cronies!

Seriously, He basically gets His monkey ass on TV and says that Miami is "everything that's wrong with CFB"...YEAH?!...REALLY?! And just last week somebody posted an article detailing all the RAPES and ASSAULTS that went on at Washington BEFORE He got there, the rapes and assaults that players seemingly got away with, but yet, what went on at Miami is everything that's wrong with CFB...GTFOH with that BS!

Seeing what He inherited at Washington, His monkey ass should've been sympathizing with Al Golden, instead of throwing salt on the wound with that "everything that's wrong with CFB" comment.

Now I admit, we have to accept and comply with the punishment, but that doesn't mean I have to respect those SOBs at the NCAA...PHUCK EM'!

BigSonnyCane

In actuality, the last bit of players that should have been punished would have graduated in this year's class anyhow....

Therefore, it's best to get it over with now, and end this chapter now.

It's likely that our scholarship #'s will take a hit; without any additional bowl bans from the NCAA.

Yes, we had a big class last year... But, it's going to be very important for this staff to keep these guys motivated, because we can't afford to lose any depth at all.

This year's class is going to be very small, and once we here from the NCAA, the quality of players may not be of the same caliber as 2012 either.

Ohio_Cane

Reggie Wayne has 58th consec gme where he caught @ least 3 passes. 1 player in #NFL history had done that: Cris Carter http://bit.ly/TUe6hP

CaneRock

This year's class is going to be very small, and once we here from the NCAA, the quality of players may not be of the same caliber as 2012 either.

Posted by: BigSonnyCane | November 19, 2012 at 04:24 PM

On the contrary, I think that gives more ammo to the "immediate playing time" sales pitch, that I'm sure Al and staff will use on the recruiting trail...especially if we don't get any more bowl bans. But you're right though, it will hurt depth, but at the same time, your youngins' will get a lot of reps due to that lack of depth.

herbieibis

Another thing, with taking this bowl ban, instead of next year, the NCAA can't say, well I guess they could, that the upper classmen could transfer out, without having to sit out a year because of the ban. We don't need any mass transfers going on. We need to add not subtract.

BigSonnyCane

On the contrary, I think that gives more ammo to the "immediate playing time" sales pitch

Posted by: CaneRock | November 19, 2012 at 04:33 PM

I understand your thiking, but "kids" want to win championships right away, as if it's that easy...

Which make it easy for some kids to buy the "other" sales pitch of playing time right away at the "Natn'l Champshp" team of last year. But "we" know darn well, they'll play nothing but special teams for 2 years.

orange 'n green in the vein

I'm glad the herb cleared the smoke out of his eyes long enough to recognize my eternal optimism since just under two years ago I told all the Golden-pun makers that they'd be waiting until 2013 for the guy to have any chance of winning big despite having a seasoned roster that a truly great coach would have whipped the under-achieving out of post haste and landed something substantial right away with ala Hoke at Michigan. If 24 months of lead-in optimism isn't eternal when the world is going to end next month, I don't know what qualifies as being so.

I won't even to mention the fact that burning Morris' red-shirt last year for all of less than 40 attempts in mop-up time basically restarted the rebuilding in 2014 with a brand new QB plus some scholarship reductions kicking in by then lagging the program down so it's truly '13 title or bust for UM now thanks to Al's shortsighted roster management on that front in a lost season last year.

Oh wait, I just did. Well, how about a weight-lifting video to make everybody feel better today UM?

roachcane77

...and I predict that D'No will win ACC Coordinator of the Year.
That's right I said it!
Posted by: 86Cane | November 19, 2012 at 01:21 PM

Holy crap! (And you said OGV is either drunk or delusional?) LOL

I REALLY hope the NCAA gives us SOME break for our self imposed bans, but my fear is that they still have the "Thug U" mentality about us, (despite our YEARS of high academic standards & high graduation rates), and will STILL come down hard on this program because of the public misconception about our fine institution. They don't want to be seen as giving us a slap on the wrist...

I just wish they would impose their penalties already... this is ridiculous...

WWIN

To help my boy 86's prediction I'll post what I posted the other day

WWIN

I heard I few people say that they haven't seen ANY improvement from the D. I'll be the first to say I would have fired D'no last year. Did the D suck every game last year except for maybe ga tech? Yes. Did it suck halfway thru this season? Yes. Is it improving? Yes. I keep it real, also stats keep it real too.

Team Total yds

NC State 664
Notre Dame 587
UNC 486
FSU 447
Va Tech 421
*Virginia *482
South Fla 358

*Game without Zel, EJ, and Bush. Also note 87 yds came on the game winning drive, had the offense been able to run out the clock the total would be 395.

I believe it looks like improvements every game until Virginia. Also notice that out of these games the offensive production wasn't great until today which also helped the D get its lowest total yds. Is it great? Nope. But its improving and that's a good sign.

Posted by: Willie Will in Nashville | November 17, 2012 at 11:12 PM

WWIN

^^^^^^^^^^

So we've knocked off 306 yds from NC State 664 to south Fla 358, but yeah I guess y'all are right I don't see ANY improvements. LMAO

Posted by: Willie Will in Nashville | November 17, 2012 at 11:16 PM

Old Skool

SI.com splaining why Maryland and Rutgers are on the move.

According to a television executive familiar with the Northeast corridor, the move could ultimately be worth as much as $200 million annually for the Big Ten in cable subscription fees. This is a Pollyannaish figure that's unlikely to ever materialize, but it shows the scope of the potential value. The interesting part, considering the current cable climate, is that the move also comes with considerable risk.

There are an estimated 15 million available households in the New York, Philadelphia, Baltimore and Washington D.C. markets. If the Big Ten Network got on basic cable in all those places, which is an enormous long shot, the per-household figure by the time Rutgers and Maryland joined the league would project in the neighborhood of $1.25 per month. That would equate to about $200 million per year.

The risk comes because none of that money is guaranteed.


Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/pete_thamel/11/18/big-ten-expansion-tv-money/index.html#ixzz2CiKTfKgI

CoCane

OGV- Nice point about not redshirting Morris last year. On the other hand, Morris will finish with over 3,000 yds 20+ tds with less than 10 int's. He's probably going to be 1st team all acc in the preseason & if he has a big year next season, with that big arm & escape ability he'll be a 1st round pick. Still going pro as a rs junior. So there wasn't any guarantee that red shirting him would've kept him a year longer...

If Golden & No'D don't get a new d-line coach & aggressively tighten up their defensive scheme in the off season. Next year's defense will just look like last year's defense. Slightly more fukked up than mediocre...

orange 'n green in the vein

That's pretty much all true Coke, plus Golden has not exactly been very good at keeping the early entries out of the draft at UM to this point. We'll see what happens with The Thing, I think he needs another year of weight room development unless he's willing to just lop off a huge chunk of draft contract money as a marginal first round pick at best right now. If Al can't talk him into staying as being his best option all around, Al probably can't talk anybody into saying no to the draft at all.

roachcane77

Willie... There was almost NO chance we could go DOWN from where we were defensively... so yes... we've improved. (It would have been nearly impossible NOT to.)

WOOHOO!

Kept USF to just under 400 yards with their 3rd string quarterback and receivers with hands of stone...

But yes... we've improved... We're currently "up" to 112 in total defense. YEAH BABY! WE'VE IMPROVED!
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/1042/p3

Do you really see D'No with his schemes and defensive philosophy EVER getting the U into the top 10 in defense?

I for one think NOT... but that's JMHO.

Don't set your standards so LOW dude... 112... 112! (Gimmie a break.)

We're The U DAMMIT... this D is UNACCEPTABLE! PERIOD.

CoCane

OGV,

I'm not as against Golden as you are but I'm not still sold either. I DEFINETLY want his defensive philosophy, DC & d-line coach thrown into the Fat Bastards digestive system to be shyt out into a "portable potty" & thrown back into the fukkin sewer from wist it came! SMMFH :-(

orange 'n green in the vein

Still not computing how correctly predicting the guy wasn't as great of an out the gate hire as the worst AD in UM history made him out to be at the time and then correctly predicting he'd struggle to just get to .500 in year two is being 'against' someone but we both agree that defensive changes are going to be necessary or else '13 is going to go down as a pretty glaring missed opportunity. Coker would have a bit of trouble not winning the ACC next year with this team, Al better breeze on by most of these suckers.

roach, Willie is scheduled to end his honeymoon with D'No sometime in the winter of 2013 right now, but he might spring for another trip to the Caribbean if UM ranks in the last 3/4ths of teams defensively by then I think.

CoCane

I'll be SHOCKED if the defense ever finishes in the top 50 under these geniuses...

mi@mic@ne

What is strange about this situation is that it reminds me of the years the old ball coach couldnt keep up with the top ten teams until he got Stoops as d coordinator... its very similar here now.

mi@mic@ne

Bob Stoops

CaneRock

Ed Reed suspended for one game

November 19, 2012, 4:15 pm

Baltimore Ravens safety Ed Reed has been suspended without pay for one game for repeated violations of the NFL rule prohibiting helmet to helmet hits.

Reed was penalized for unnecessary roughness in the third quarter of Sunday night’s game against the Pittsburgh Steelers for a hit to the head and neck area of, Emmanuel Sanders.

Due to the suspension Reed will not be allowed to practice this week as the Ravens’ prepare to play the San Diego Charges on Sunday. He also will not be allowed to be present at the team practice facility during any point of the suspension. Reed will be eligible to return on Monday, November 26.

jiggafras

We have a problem holding people accountable for their product. The D was garbage last year, it was atrocious this year, it will be terrible next year. We are not under sanctions yet, the NCAA is affecting recruiting not the current players, NO'D is just a poor.....check that, horrible DC. Golden keeping him around is only putting both of them on a short leash. Everyone sitting there saying he will get it better, is basing that off faith or Temple stats....both of which is ridiculous. I trust my eyes, and the ease with which some of the worst offenses in the country absolutely gut us...even with 3rd and 4th string QBs. The longer we keep this dude the more time it will take for us to get back to be even respectable.

orange 'n green in the vein

jiggafras, there's no reason the defense should be horrible next year, but the excuses that start when a terrible UF offense goes through them like a chainsaw the second week in the season will be equally parts hilarious and sad if it happens.

BigWindyCane1

...and I predict that D'No will win ACC Coordinator of the Year.
That's right I said it!
Posted by: 86Cane | November 19, 2012 at 01:21 PM

That is the prediction of all predictions to vault. I am not convinced, but I hope you are right because I am confident that Fisch will put some points on the board next year, so with DNo being the best coordinator that would mean that the Canes will win the ACC.

Hassan

Merriweather out with a ACL for the year after playing only 1 game this year and recording a INT in his only game....

Mcgahee has an MCL as an over 30 back this could really be a big set back, expected out 4-6 weeks.

today has been a bad day for Canes fans

BigWindyCane1

I also thought the Canes would announce their intentions for a bowl ban on Sunday, but they waited until today. It was the right thing to do because it allows the ACC to make arrangements for its bowl pairings.

I was thrilled to learn that the Canes could still be eligible to win the first-ever ACC Coastal Division title, and that is certainly progress under Golden.

The Canes should play this last game as if it were a bowl game and beat the Blue Devils senseless. This would create momentum on the recruiting trail and for next season.

The NCAA should certainly go lenient on the Canes given that UM graduates players, UM doesn't don't have many player arrests, current coaches and staff cooperated with the NCAA investigation and imposed an unprecedented two bowl bans and voluntary scholarship reductions.

Forgoing another bowl ban will help keep Seantrel and also help Golden keep and maybe strengthen its recruting class.

I feel bad for the seniors who did everything right and cannot compete in a bowl, but I guess it is better to swallow the bitter medicine now so the Canes prognosis is bright for the future.

Mcginns ale house

I hope that carter commit is solid. (Wow !!why do they even kick to him)

86Cane

This year's class is going to be very small, and once we here from the NCAA, the quality of players may not be of the same caliber as 2012 either.

Posted by: BigSonnyCane | November 19, 2012 at 04:24 PM

Big Sonny...good to see U on the blog.

Go Tracy Howard!!!

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