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February 06, 2013

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Sinistercane

First

Old Skool

A minute late

Canesteeler

2 minutes late

CaneRock

“She’s having anxiety,” Johnny said. “I know she preferred him to go to UM. Alex had said he was going to the U, and then all of a sudden he changes his mind. We found out he was going to Arkansas on TV.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/02/06/3220454/mother-of-former-miami-hurricanes.html#storylink=cpy

Sinistercane

Can I get a free shirt lol

kenyon19ypr

CoCane- Piggy-bagcking last blog...

These are mine: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1476159-miami-football-4-recruits-most-likely-to-start-in-2013

Plus Coley both as a returner and receiver

kenyon19ypr

*piggy-backing

RBLCane

Wonder what percentage of visitors actually micro-blogs... It's gotta be pretty small (I.e. less than 5%)... Proud to be part of such a select class!

GO CANES!!!

Jack

Alex's heart is not at the U! Sorry mom. That said mom is right on this one.
Alex Just ask Jacoby Brisset :(

Solid class! NCAA BS investigation will no longer be a factor moving forwarded class of 2014 let's go! Future is bright....

TWO BIGGEST RECRUITS 2013 MARIO CRISTABOL AND JAMES COLEY!

Sarasota 'cane

Soup once again you did a great job this week as always with recruiting week. The delusion of our fan base knows no bounds! All things considered I think we have a good class that will help us get to where we all want to go in the near future.

On a side note a caller to the Sedano show today stated that Alex Collin's mother is aware that his coach is to be compensated if he can deliver Alex to Arkansas. Sedano knew the caller and could not confirm the report, but stated that he knew him from the show as a man with local connections and he had no reason to doubt him.

And one final thing, if Dan Sileo and Uncle Luke are "Friends" of UM we certainly don't need any enemies! Sileo and Luke are two of the most toxic problems that we will face a year from now when we do this all over again. That's no an understatement either. Sileo has been steering kids away from UM for years. He tried to backtrack on Matt Patchan last week but he forgets that he already admitted that he told Matt to go to UF when he was working for AM 620 in Tampa. He pumps the SEC and talks so bad about UM to local recruits that it's a wonder we can sign any kid from South Florida! Koop &Crowder were laughing at Sileo and Luke all afternoon about their delusional nonsense!

Again thanks for all the hard work Soup!

Go 'canes!

Terrance Sullivan

Good Solid Class.

The Dude

So what's up with Collins and Moore?

CGNC

Well, has everyone put away their sharp objects and backed off the ledges yet????

To all the new recruits that signed: Welcome to the U.

Canedolfan386

I'm happy with the class. Kinda wish we woulda got a couple dt's. Thanks 86 ,umike,Ohio,and others.

CGNC

We will know whether a class was good or not when the players actually play in the games

semperfi_cane

"We were meant to be here," Golden's wife, Kelly Golden, told the AP on Wednesday. "Regardless of how it happened, what was said or not said, we need to be here right now. He needs to be here. Not sure who else could weather this storm the way he has. It was for a reason."

Gotta love Mrs. Golden representing.

Ohio_Cane

Gotta love Mrs. Golden representing.

Posted by: semperfi_cane | February 06, 2013 at 08:17 PM
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In before OGV makes a joke out of this and discredits anything she said.

raizecane

Have you guys seen Bama's class? Holy Crap.....They have been recruiting like that for the past 4 years so for those who don't think stars don't matter may want to rethink that. Just saying.....

CoCane

Dam... Sounds to me like Collins chose Arkansas so him & his high school coach can get paid. His mom peeped game & said hell naw!

Most of the big targets dissed us because we couldn't break them off. I hate the way other programs get away with cheating but the "U" is hated so much we'll get slammed for the slightest slip up...

BigWindyCane1

I am happy with this class. The Canes got some really good players. Under Golden, he will develop them and they will have another group of all-ACC freshmen and Freshmen all Americans. Returning 20 of 22 starters, the Canes will win the coastal (again) in 2013 and I think they can win the ACC. Then, those class of 2014 recruits will continue to roll in and the Canes will be repeating for national championships for years to come.

CoCane

Coker & Shannon got the stars but didn't coach them up. Bad coaching will make an all star team look average. After one too many mediocre seasons, we couldn't get the stars like we used to. If we win this year, the stars will come for 2014. Winning cures everything.

Alabama is what happens when elite coaching meets elite talent. Dynasty. Kansas St is what happens when elite coaching meets mediocre talent. Good every year but can't quite get over the hump.

Tonycane

Utterly perfect chicane. Could not have summed it any better!

86Cane

Again thanks for all the hard work Soup!

Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | February 06, 2013 at 07:59 PM

Roger that!

86Cane

Alabama is what happens when elite coaching meets elite talent. Dynasty. Kansas St is what happens when elite coaching meets mediocre talent. Good every year but can't quite get over the hump.

Posted by: CoCane | February 06, 2013 at 08:52 PM

There IT is right there.

dg

Like I said before--It will be hard to get good defense players here until No D' is gone. Kids and parents are not stupid. No surprises...

UpNorthCane

Ohio we all at canespace want to tell you ... Your the fing recruiting guru and Soup your the boss of all bosses my man great articles n keep killin em with canespace...!!!!!

VA Cane

Alabama is what happens when elite coaching meets elite talent. Dynasty. Kansas St is what happens when elite coaching meets mediocre talent. Good every year but can't quite get over the hump.

Could not agree more, Bama got it all right now. That is where we were long ago and far away, and where we need to get to again. We cannot get there overnight, but all in all, we have some talent on the field. I think they are very coachable; the MNW Gang of 8 never impressed me after all that hype; Spence was the real deal, Street may show a good hand yet.

Give me 22 Dukes and I can beat you I promise. That young man is all U, and never quits. I do not see the NC for this year, but I think we will surprise people, and we got some good kids.

Feel sorry for collins. As for the coach, he is what is wrong with HS sports. That young man does not need that fat man running interference for him. I hope he gets it resolved for his sake...and family. I cannot see him coming here; nothing against him, but his heart is just not here....and that is ok, I want to see him go somewhere and do well. Good luck young man!!!!

pbcfrcane13

CoCane you nailed it!

Question than what was the late 90s canes.....cause their wasnt many "highly rated" kids in those classes....JW

Hassan

T Rich is gone....

LatinCane

Sancocho, That was funny as hell!!!!

Alex Collins' mom just ran by my window holding some piece of paper in her hand?

Posted by: 86Cane | February 06, 2013 at 05:46 PM

CaneRock

On a side note a caller to the Sedano show today stated that Alex Collin's mother is aware that his coach is to be compensated if he can deliver Alex to Arkansas. Sedano knew the caller and could not confirm the report, but stated that he knew him from the show as a man with local connections and he had no reason to doubt him.

Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | February 06, 2013 at 07:59 PM

If what that caller said was true, then we just need to rewind the clock back 400+ years, and go back to slavery. And don't get me wrong, I know black coaches do it to, but this one here is just disgusting.

86Cane

Posted by: LatinCane | February 06, 2013 at 09:08 PM

Oye, sinverguenza, ahora tu vienes para hablar con migo? Y donde has estado todos los otros dias? Yo necesito que usted este siempre aqui!

Hassan

The caller was me hehe. AC was ours Ohio can vouch for this, he was flipped for more dough then a dougnut factory, what the NCAA paid Perez is chump change compared to the mobey that exchanged for three guys today, real talk.


RBLCane

Koop &Crowder were laughing at Sileo and Luke all afternoon about their delusional nonsense!

Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | February 06, 2013 at 07:59 PM


There might actually be something to this "delusional nonsense."

As we all know, academic standards have been rising dramatically at The U. That's not just me saying this (or students and friends of mine who either study at or went through the admissions process at The U); US News has also taken notice.

And who's to "blame?" Donna Shalala, the same person Sileo, Luke and many others from the inner city pin the blame on. It's no secret she's the reason for UM's recent and somewhat meteoric academic rise this past decade. It's not something you can really "blame" her for though--that's her job! You can fault her for doing well at what she's supposed to do, for developing the school popularly known as "Suntan U" back in the 80s into a nationally-respected, renowned, and highly-selective academic institution.

The only problem is that higher the academic standards at UM, the harder it will be for kids from Miami, especially from the so-called "inner city," to get into the school and to succeed once there. This is because M-DCPS is one of the worst school districts in the nation, and the schools in the inner city are some of the worst of the worst.

I'm not sure what the exact figure us, but a few weeks back I heard on NPR that over 50% of kids graduating from M-DCPS schools aren't ready to compete in regular college-level classes at community college. Community colleges, at least, have remedial classes, something you definitely won't find at UM or almost any other top-tier academic institution (I've heard that some academically-respected schools like UF get around this by providing their players with tons of individual tutoring).

This all affects recruiting because it narrows the So Fla recruiting pool for Al Golden (even more so than it's already narrowed given self-imposed and impending sanctions and thus the added pressure of not having room to "miss" on a signee). To some like Sileo and Luke, it might seem like Golden "isn't interested" in SoFla recruits, when in reality, only a fraction of those recruits actually have the academic prowess to succeed at The U. (And I'm not just talking about minimum GPAs and standardized test scores; everyone knows those figures are not perfect indicators of future academic success, especially when the majority of kids at top schools--the ones these kids will be competing against in classes graded on a curve--score much higher than the athlete minimums). Meanwhile, most of the other schools having major success with Miami recruits have significantly lower academic standards than The U, schools like FSU, Alabama, LSU, etc., and others, as already mentioned, provide some type of unofficial remedial education such as tutoring (and, of course, others cheat).

In the end, Golden has no choice but to widen his prospective applicant pool by looking to other states and to local prep schools for top talent. Luke and Sileo are correct that Shalala is to "blame" for this, except that there's no conspiracy theory or racist institutional pretexts at play; the school has become more selective, and Miami schools are having a hard time keeping up.

Luke and Sileo would be better off lobbying local and state politicians to fix our school system than to go making unfounded, divisive, and hurtful accusations at our coach and president!

GO CANES!!!

usagainsttheworld

Alabama is what happens when elite coaching meets elite talent. Dynasty.

Posted by: CoCane | February 06, 2013 at 08:52 PM

Uhhh no. Alabama is what happens when elite coaching and elite talent, meet deer antler juice! (sorry couldn't resist!)

go canes!

usagainsttheworld

If what that caller said was true, then we just need to rewind the clock back 400+ years, and go back to slavery. And don't get me wrong, I know black coaches do it to, but this one here is just disgusting.

Posted by: CaneRock | February 06, 2013 at 09:16 PM

THERE IT IS RIGHT THERE!!!

USAFCane

class is good if you ask me, cloud over our heads and all. SEC is is he place to play so expect to lose talent there at he best of times. Looking at today, SEC had Ole Miss and Ark pulling top tier talent, now that is strictly $$$$$. Recruiting is getting uglier every year and HS coaches acting as street agents, even worse.

UpNorthCane

Yo no sabia que aqui tambien se hablaba español. Los huracanes vana volver a ser los dueños de futbol americano colegial..... Y donde vive ese tal Gatewood yo le mando los de las motos para que acaben a ese gordito!!

86Cane

Luke and Sileo would be better off lobbying local and state politicians to fix our school system than to go making unfounded, divisive, and hurtful accusations at our coach and president!

Posted by: RBLCane | February 06, 2013 at 09:38 PM

CHURCH

86Cane

DeNorte...claro que si mi hermano, pueden hablar en Espanol aqui. Y si tu quieres, fajar con El Gordito!

I wonder if I should start a Spanish language version of Canespace? Never been tried or done before!

Sarasota 'cane

Donna's job is to protect kids from the "Luke's & Sileo's" of the world. If you measure her on being a college president she would grade out as one of the top college presidents in the country. UM is the # 1 rated college in the state of Florida!

I'm so sick of watching her get vilified for the football teams problems when the record states otherwise. She raised the academic standards because the NCAA raised theirs. It likely is harder to gt into UM but that bar is so low compared to the rest of the student body that a kid can only blame themselves if they can't qualify.

Those teams we grew up watching were set to self destruct every few years. If we try to follow that model again we will get the Death Penalty! It's a fact that has now been proven at the highest level of the NCAA! Do you think the NCAA isn't working with MLB as we speak? UM's on Double Secret Probation now!

Sileo & Luke are just another problem that Donna and Al have to steer clear of.

Go 'canes!

86Cane

Donna's job is to protect kids from the "Luke's & Sileo's" of the world. If you measure her on being a college president she would grade out as one of the top college presidents in the country. UM is the # 1 rated college in the state of Florida!

Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | February 06, 2013 at 10:03 PM

There IT is right there.

86Cane

U know some of U guys should consider writing articles for the blog. No seriously!

Canesfan_1

I have to laugh at Donna Shalala and academic standards being blamed. Neither had anything to do with who we did or didn't get.

Give me one example. If we do lose somebody to our very "relaxed" academic standards for athletes, they can't get into any of the other big time schools either, it ends up being somewhere like Marshall.

Mcginns ale house

Thanks soup and ohio for trying to make nsd fun for the fans.

Hassan

Chud is wanting Mario for a coaching gig in Clevel, I think he stays.

86Cane

OK, have not done this in a while and kept it to the insiders ONLY but felt the time was right to post something for the masses from the source:

1. The DT spot aint as bad as Miami fans are makin like it is. We have a bunch of ballahs at that spot with a full year will be much better. Jelani and Chick will move there on passin situation.

2. All aint dead at this Miami. A very very good class with solid 4 year ballahs. With Grace skill set and 10 more pounds this offseason he will start. As the season moves on Carter and Burns will go from 2nd team to spot starters and you best know that OGslick and Standish will f teams up.

3. These last 2 classes have Miami faster ahead then most think. F n Artie is bigger then I thought lol. Boi a little swoled up. Standish is a tallazz m fer with some big f n mitts. Coley best get that speed up cause this Miami got at least 10 ballahs faster.

4. Fans need to be hyped for this class or break a f n leg jumpin off.

CoCane

I'll write an article if it can be unfiltered ;-) tee hee heeeee

86Cane

I'll write an article if it can be unfiltered ;-) tee hee heeeee

Posted by: CoCane | February 06, 2013 at 10:29 PM

Not a snowball's chance in hell!

canedolfan386

86 I agree, I think we win 9 to 10 games next year. I see nothing but big things coming for the U. And all the fairweathers can bounce. Also when the cloud moves out. Look out for 2014. Alabama you have officially been put on notice. 12 percent for life

86Cane

Jimmy Puma‏@DirtySouthCanes

Just spoke yo Donnelle Bennett. He says that if #TheU comes calling, he's in. #RBcoach.

WWIM

NSD 2013: Good, not great, and certainly not EPIC.

WWIN...is there a buyout clause in your client's contract? LOL

Posted by: 86Cane | February 06, 2013 at 03:22 PM

This buyout clause that you speak of, whats that????? LOL

CoCane

:-(

I tried. Lol

Xxcanes305xx

Collins to joe rose "I'm still going to Arkansas"

RBLCane

POST-NSD 2013 POSITIONAL BREAKDOWN BY SENIORITY (please let me know if I made any mistakes or forgot anyone):

* = 2013 newcomer

QB (7)
S. Morris
R. Williams
G. Crow
P. Dewey
D. Thompson (also on baseball team)
K. Olsen*
G. Lassiter* (also on baseball team)

RB (6)
E. Clements
D. Crawford
D. Dillard
D. Johnson
A. Edwards* (a la Mike James)
R. Lewis III* (possible)

FB (2)
M. Hagens
A. Edwards* (a la Mike James)

WR (9)
A. Hurns
P. Dorsett
R. Scott
J. Carter
D. Jones
M. Lewis
R. Lockhart
H. Waters
S. Coley*

TE (7)
A. Cleveland
D. Dye
C. White
D. Perry
C. Walford
S. Dobard*
B. Sandland*

OT (7)
S. Henderson
M. Bunche
H. Wells
E. Flowers
T. Gadbois
H. Knighton*
S. Odogwu*

OG (4)
B. Linder
J. Feliciano
D. Isidora
A. Gall*

C (2-3 since I think Gall or Knighton can also play C)
J. Wheeler
S. McDermott

DT (9)
C. Porter
L. Robinson
J. Grimble
O. Pierre
C. King
J. Briscoe
D. Ivery
E. Moore
U. Kamalu*

DE (9)
K. Cain
S. Green
A. Chickillo
R. Williams
J. Hamilton
D. Hoilett
T. McCord
J. O'Donnell
A. Muhammad*

OLB (8)
T. Cornileus
D. Perryman
T. Armbrister
E. Johnson
J. Blue
G. Terry
D. Bond*
A. Figueroa*
J. Grace*

MLB (3)
J. Gaines
D. Perryman
R. Kirby

CB (8)
T. Finnie
L. Gunter
A. Crawford
N. Dortch
L. Hope
T. Howard
A. Burns*

S (5)
A. Highsmith
K. Rodgers
D. Bush
R. Jenkins
J. Carter*

K/P
Not sure... M. Goudis only scholarship player on roster... Ricky Perez a preferred walk-on... I think we also landed another walk-on recently.

GO CANES!!!

JCane

For anyone still remembering hoops, TCU is up by 10 over Kansas with 1 min. left in the game....oops, now make that 6. KU is #5, fwiw.

Tonycane

7 quarterbacks! How could we have possibly gone so many years with just 2?!

CaneRock

Those teams we grew up watching were set to self destruct every few years. If we try to follow that model again we will get the Death Penalty! It's a fact that has now been proven at the highest level of the NCAA! Do you think the NCAA isn't working with MLB as we speak? UM's on Double Secret Probation now!

Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | February 06, 2013 at 10:03 PM

NO!...those teams we grew up watching were self destructed by money, and couldn't be maintained because of lack of money. The only reason the previous model didn't work is because Shapiro is a CRAAAAAAZY! SOAB...nothing more,nothing less.
And after the PSU tragedy, the NCAA wouldn't DARE! hand out the DP again, the Miami "scandal" is pip squeak compared to PSU. And to follow up what Hassan said, MAAAAAN!, it's a lot of money changing hands, look at how Richt got RAPED! in the state of Georgia. Hell, look at how AG got raped here in Florida.

j.w.

Alright, today is over. Today sucked. The entire recruting process didn't necessarily, but the result speaks for itself. Golden really has to evaluate what he has at DC and especially DL coach, they are just not getting it done:the lack of talented kids coming in at DT (we need them worse than the national Republican party needs a new message,) and the poor talent at the position is not good. But the class is far from the worst ever, and in time might prove to be ok. We'll see, I'm just glad UM survived the day and will fight another day.Now we measure Golden; there is no question he was disappointed today, how he responds will tell us all we need to know about his ability.

WWIM

The only reason Collins doesn't want to come is bcuz he doesn't want to take Duke Johnson's spot

Terrance Sullivan

Actually starting with the 2011 class headlined by Dorsett, Chik, and Perryman going into the 2012 class headlined by Duke, Bush, Howard, and now this class headlined by Burns, Coley, and Olsen things are looking great.

Ohio_Cane

Hassan is right. I was told Collins was ours to lose. Wasn't told about the coach, but did hear whispers and wrote them off (sort of).

Not surprising, honestly. Recruiting is a dirty, dirty game

hitter

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WWIM

We will know whether a class was good or not when the players actually play in the games

Posted by: CGNC | February 06, 2013 at 08:14 PM

Thats the truest $hit i ever heard all day!!!!

WWIM

People have to understand that its hard recruiting by the book these days, and AG is trying to do it the right way by the book

Ohio_Cane

Can't wait to hear the NCAA say, "Hey UM, feel free to go about your business as U see fit... Oh, sorry btw"

WWIM

Ohio,

Didn't i tell you about Jalen Ramsey? He was told we would get the death penalty

semperfi_cane

"@unclelukereal1: RT @theCANEofTUCKY @unclelukereal1 we got to get Randy Shannon back at Miami, terrible Al Golden"

Wtf is wrong with people? Do they have selective amnesia?

j.w.

Agree semper fi, we are way worse off with Shannon at HC. Disapointment for me is over,momentum can change with one winning season, and hopefully this is the one.

JCane

TCU took down KU tonight, so #5 goes down along with formerly #2 FU yesterday night. Tomorrow NCState plays Duke, but it's at Duke and I expect Duke to take care of business. Nevertheless, it has the potential to be a tough game for the Dukies. I don't expect Gonzaga to have much trouble with Pepperdine or IU with the Illini, but that's why they play the games. Saturday our Canes face off against UNC again, although in Coral Gables. Michigan will play a tough Wisconsin team, and Kansas will face a good OU team. FU plays Miss. State, a team I'd expect they'll take out some frustration on unfortunately.

All things being the same, if the U can take care of business vs. the Tar Heels, #6 is in our grasp (and this assumes a Mich. win vs. the Badgers). Again, this is lotsa nuttin...just keep winning, Canes, and all will take care of itself.

I don't see AC ending up anywhere other than with Ark at this point, but stranger things have happened. Maybe he can contact Bryce Brown for some advice....

panamacitycane

I hate these recruiting websites...espn has miami at #21 and rivals has us at #44???? What gives? This isn't even close so either way I think it was a good day...not thw best..but don't forget we have an amazing offense coming back with even more firepower...defense can't do anything but get better..I hope... we aren't going to win a national title next year but I can see miami winning the acc championship and playing in the orange bowl and possibly winning that. They say defense wins championships and I think that is true..but I think we can definetly win with the talent that is on this team...just dont forgetwhat golden has done with the situation is beyond great

Dan

Miami fans are simply the worst, least supportive and most delusional fans anywhere.

Why all the anger at the current HC?

U chest thumping morons who are still living in the past think U deserve the best of South Florida talent? Really?

This HC cant even answer a simple question from a recruits parents because of the NCAA cloud and self imposed silence. THIS HC cant visit some homes becuase of self imposed limits on in home meet and greets.

Your program been mediocre for almost decade.

And yet your not thanking this HC for perservering and putting up with all the BS to try and guide this ship into harbor when he could of taken gigs alot more lucrative, and with fan bases who actually give a crap unlike your own fickle 1500 fans?

Any self respecting head coach would of walked away from ur disaster the moment the news dropped from Yahoo.

I guess having a Saint for a head coach to hold it all together while rebuilding a decimated talent pool from the Shannon era isnt enough.

Idiots.

LB

"@unclelukereal1: RT @theCANEofTUCKY @unclelukereal1 we got to get Randy Shannon back at Miami, terrible Al Golden"

Is that real?

That's hilarious!

LB

I like the class. It addressed most of the needs. We need at least one more DT. Other than that, good job.

Now let's see that schedule!

nemo2002

Perhaps, PCC, rivals doesnt count jucos? Who knows? Who cares?

21 or 44 . . . What difference does it make, if we're not in the top ten?

Let's face facts, NSD was disappointing for the U. We were vanquished by UF and FSU (again) and some other schools too.

We're not ever going to be an elite team (again), unless we can find a way to AT LEAST recruit more effectively in Sourth Florida.

We signed some good recruits, no doubt. However, in this fan's opinion the image of Golden being a "great recruiter" is now seriously tarnished. (In Golden we bust?) And the myth of the U's "three headed [recruiting] monster" has seemingly been shattered.

Of course, a better test will come next year when the NCAA shyt is behind us. (Sorry 'bout the pun.). And then we can recruit aggressively without the fear of unknown sanctions looming ominously over the program.

But for now all I can say is that we did OKAY on NSD. . . And that's not bad!
But we should have done BETTER . . . And that's not good!

The one thing that really mystifies me is WHY would anyone ever NOT want to play for the U?


RBLCane

Does anyone know the rationale behind not letting a kid sign his LOI until he's 21 without parental consent?

Seems a little archaic and patronizing if you ask me (even though it has helped us stay in the Collins sweepstakes).

Thanks in advance!

GO CANES!!!

VA Cane

Uncle Luke is an idiot; the guy needs to go away.RS decent D coach, terrible head coach. Thats foolish talk. Go root for FSU UF or whomever RS signs with since hes so hot and in demand....one of my friends called him the black Nick Saban!!!! Really? He said RS just needed more time to build a powerhouse!! OK buddy.

While I wish we could have gotten more kids we wanted, I imagine there would have been grade issues with several. There is nothing wrong with having standards; I think they should be the same for all: in state out of state athlete non athlete city country. There should be no exceptions for groups; there are too many people in school now that do not have the skills.If you cannot make it at the U UVA Stanford go somewhere where the standards permit. We put sports and activities first from day one, then we have a govt that wants to continue to invest in education.....heck we are what 17th in world, 23 in math and science....how has the investment of trillions since the 60s worked out...not good. We have been investing for years with taxpayer money, with little or no change. We have the same problem here; city of Richmond has terrible govt and schools...size has dropped cause people got into surrounding counties. I cannot imagine living in the city anyway, so much is bad. While the thought of Willie Williams getting a chance to break out of a bad life, get a degree and play in the big time is nice, for so many kids from the same background its the same thing; a nice thought. It is very sad that it so often is not reality. Willie was in jail when I checked last year; hope things change for the young man.

I cannot imagine an athlete going to Ole Miss or Arkansas and thinking they are going to get an education. The poverty level and school systems of those states are pretty bad...why would one think that the higher eduction system of the same state is going to be better. Got to be $....would you go there?

CGNC great point....we will know when we see them play....just like all the others that went to schools....lots of them will never pan out.

raizecane


We will know whether a class was good or not when the players actually play in the games

Posted by: CGNC | February 06, 2013 at 08:14 PM

*****************************************

100% agree

LB

I just saw the list of redshirted players (now officially redshirt freshmen). This is the first time in a long time where we had the room to do that. It's impressive, and should help us quite a bit. Gives a little more perspective.

DL: Hoilet, Briscoe, O'Donnell.
LB: Blue.
DB: Dortch, Hope.
OL: Gadbois, Isidora.
WR: Carter, Jones.
RB: Dillard.
QB: Dewey, Crow, Thompson.

I don't know about the rest of you, but knowing that 14 players got developed last year is really, really promising. I think Briscoe & Blue can immediately contribute.

However, I'm most excited about Dillard. Everything that I've heard (and I've heard quite a bit), he's an everydown back with sickening skills. Duke, Dallas, Dillard, Clements... that's a hell of a group.

Out of the 2013 group, I'm certain that Sandland, Grace, and AQM will play immediately.

Ideally, Olsen, Dobard, and Coley would also redshirt. But I think Dobard is too talented to keep off the field.

What do you all think?

UMike

Even up here in Chattanooga, the talk shows are talking about the Collins situation lol

The Wizard

LB, I've also heard that Dillard is a stud ready to explode. Looking forward to seeing him on the field.

UMike

I think it is very possible Olsen, Dobard and Coley redshirt..unless they just blow the doors off. We have a very talent group of WR's returning, and at TE we have Sandland and Walford who really came on at the end of the year. Olsen should sit behind Morris and redshirt unless Morris is injured and he just happens to be #2 on the chart.

Hassan

Chick is up to 270, jelani 276, McCord 230's.

UMike

From Rivals..

MIAMI

Written about ad nauseum, this is a tough class to call a winner or a loser but the optimism coming into National Signing Day ended with a thud. Miami bungled the recruitment of Denver Kirkland and lost him to Arkansas. It likely pushed away five-star Matthew Thomas as well. Alex Collins' mom tried to make the former commit sign with the school, but it appears he is headed to Arkansas as well, with former 'Canes coach Randy Shannon dipping back into the South Florida market. The day was not all a loss, though, because the program landed four-star linebacker Jermaine Grace and four-star receiver Stacy Coley. There are major questions about the defensive line, which went relatively unaddressed in this class, and even with the backdrop of self-sanctioning many people expected more than this.

360Cane

Posted by: RBLCane | February 06, 2013 at 09:38 PM

Great post but this is nothing new. Look into Georgia Tech and read the quote the coach then said why they needed to leave the SEC. The academic standards at GT were much higher than the rest so they had to opt out for the ACC.

Dodd also indicated that the stiffer academic requirements played a role in Georgia Tech's departure from the SEC.

"I just could not compete with those damn state universities. And Auburn is just as easily a state university. They could take these same boys we couldn't take, who wanted to come and play for me. And it just broke me down. I couldn't beat'em. You can just outcoach'em some of the time, brother. Better football players will beat you."

Schweaty Balls

Big article today in the NY Times saying that the Miami Baseball program was the hub of PED's down in S. Florida. Man it just never stops! You all know how much I follow Miami Baseball so this one hurts.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/07/sports/major-league-baseball-sees-university-of-miami-as-a-hub-for-performance-enhancing-drugs.html?hp&_r=0

360Cane

Posted by: 86Cane | February 06, 2013 at 10:18 PM

That's insider information?!

That's more like common sense. LOL (for you ogv)

Ohio_Cane

*OFF TOPIC*

Even kids games aren't safe anymore... 2 teens lose fingers playing tug of war:

http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201302/teens-lose-fingers-game-tug-war

360Cane

Will someone tell Luke Randy Shannon is a position coach now?

Schweaty Balls

Randy Shannon was the worst head coach ever! He sucked worse than a $2 whore. And Luke needs to recognize the he is so 1980's. Move on pal and get a life!

UMike

Luke loves to say how all this kids wanted to come to Miami...so then why didnt they commit to Miami??? HELLO!!! lol...Freeman, Cooper, Thomas, Kirkland, Rogers, Bridgewater ALL had offers and didnt commit and some de-committedd...funny how Luke never mentions that lol

Ohio_Cane

Luke is a fuggin moron. Why ANYONE even listens to him is beyond me. He's a damn ex-rapper that ran for Mayor.

MAYOR!

People take what he says seriously? Really?

360Cane

Posted by: Schweaty Balls | February 07, 2013 at 09:14 AM

You're not really THAT surprised are you? I mean, we do have a field named after the kingpin.

UMike

I guess it is a good sign that we flipped Burns from Alabama to Miami and Luke is his coach lol

Ohio_Cane

Golden on Joe Rose hinting at a JUCO DT that "could qualify late that's still available"

Ohio_Cane

^^ Also possible, "A transfer or 2"

Ohio_Cane

27 official visits this year (self-imposed). Had 40-50 officials last year.

Golden's hit ratio once getting guys on campus is excellent

Schweaty Balls

Posted by: Schweaty Balls | February 07, 2013 at 09:14 AM

You're not really THAT surprised are you? I mean, we do have a field named after the kingpin.

Posted by: 360Cane | February 07, 2013 at 09:36 AM

No, not surprised at all. I am probably going to get s#@t for saying this but we know its the truth, Luke is a racist. There is only 1 reason why he wants Shannon back and it has absolutely nothing to do with head coaching qualifications.

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