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December 10, 2013

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CaneRock

HURNS! UNO! WHAT?!

UMike

I think mean Bush hahaha

UMike

UM coach Al Golden was on the recruiting trail Sunday night when the Hurricanes accepted an invitation to play Louisville in the Russell Athletic Bowl.

Monday, Golden and athletic director Blake James finally got to talk about facing the Cardinals and former Hurricanes recruit Teddy Bridgewater at Orlando’s Citrus Bowl on Dec. 28.

Golden said the Hurricanes are excited about facing “an excellent Louisville team.”

“I’m sure all the other storylines will emerge in terms of guys that know each other, played against each other. That’s going to make it fun,” Golden said. “From a viewership standpoint and of course, a packed house there in Orlando, that’s going to make it all fun.”

Although the Hurricanes were also considered for the Chick-Fil-A Bowl in Atlanta New Year’s Eve, James said he’s happy UM is playing a few hours away.

“I told Steve Hogan, the executive director, all along that Orlando makes sense for us in so many ways,” James said. “It gives our fans a great chance to see the program and be a part of the state of Florida.”

• Former UM quarterback and Heisman Trophy winner Vinny Testaverde will be inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame on Tuesday in New York. … Offensive lineman Brandon Linder accepted an invite to play in the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Ala. on Jan. 25.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/12/10/3808954/miami-hurricanes-glad-to-play.html#storylink=cpy

UMike

Miami Booker T. Washington and Hialeah Champagnat Catholic completed undefeated seasons and gave South Florida two state champions so far at this year’s football finals.

Three more teams take aim this weekend.

Miami Central faces Seffner Armwood —the only team that has beaten it in this historic four-year run of advancing to Orlando.

Plantation American Heritage takes its most talented team ever to state in what will be its first appearance since 1998.

And South Dade has all of Homestead buzzing as it tries to dethrone defending state champion Apopka in its first trip to the dance.

Here’s a look at the final weekend of high school football for the 2013 season:

Class 5A state championship — Plantation American Heritage (13-1) vs. Green Cove Springs Clay (10-4), 1 p.m. Friday: The Patriots are chasing their first state championship and trying to become the ninth school in Broward County history to accomplish the feat.

To do it, the Patriots will have to beat arguably the wildest story statewide in this year’s playoffs.

Clay, which last won a state title in 1967, has proven it can win with either potent offense or with solid defense.

The Blue Devils won a wild 74-73 game against Jacksonville Bishop Kenny in the regional semifinals. The Blue Devils followed that with a 9-7 victory in a defensive struggle against Pensacola Catholic. Last week, another shootout finished with Clay beating St. Pete Lakewood 40-38.

The Blue Devils run a spread offense but can run the football out of a power formation much like what American Heritage faced against Hardee in the regional finals.

Heritage adapted to that offense by halftime and eventually routed Hardee 41-7 powered by another big game by running back Sony Michel.

For the Patriots, their speed on both sides of the ball and experience playing a wide variety of opponents throughout the season will pay off once again in this type of game.

Don’t expect the big stage of the Citrus Bowl faze a team that has won all four of its playoff games by 15 points or more.

Andre’s pick: American Heritage 38, Clay 17.

Class 6A state championship — Miami Central (13-1) vs. Seffner Armwood (14-0), 1 p.m. Saturday: The Rockets are in Orlando for the fourth year in a row, setting a Dade County record for consecutive trips.

The trip in 2011 was the most unpleasant, however, ending with a loss to Armwood that capped a tumultuous season and later resulted in both teams forfeiting their victories that year.

Central recovered quickly, winning state last season, but didn’t get the chance to avenge that loss. The Rockets will get that opportunity this year.

Injured star tailback Joe Yearby was missed last week not just sentimentally, but also literally in a running game that only mustered 84 yards against Daytona Beach Mainland. Central continues to work in its passing game effectively with quarterback Keith Reed and receiver Da’Vante Phillips combining for 211 yards and three touchdowns.

The key could be Central’s offensive line if it can establish the running game and give time for Reed to throw, which often makes him a dangerous offensive weapon.

Andre’s pick: Central 30, Armwood 28.

Class 8A state championship — South Dade (13-1) vs. Apopka (13-1), 7 p.m. Saturday: After 60 years, the Bucs made school history and clinched their first trip to the state finals. But to win the school’s first state football title, South Dade will have to overcome the toughest obstacle for any South Florida team this weekend.

Apopka has scored 724 points this season (51.7 points per game average) behind its single-wing offense. And the Blue Darters had to adapt to the loss of star quarterback Zack Darlington after he was injured at the start of the season.

The Bucs hope to mirror the offensive success that Weston Cypress Bay had last year at state in a 53-50 defeat. As it has throughout the playoffs, South Dade will need its aggressive defense to contain Apopka’s running game and give itself a chance.

Quarterback play will be paramount. And if the Bucs get the same Kahlil Render they saw last week against Palm Beach Gardens, they might just pull off a huge upset.

Andre’s pick: South Dade 37, Apopka 35.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/12/10/3809103/andre-c-fernandez-miami-central.html#storylink=cpy

UMike

When its all said and done half of this years class could be State champs.

UMike

From Ariz...

Demetrius Jackson just texted me out of the blue saying he has not decommitted from Miami. He says "Pete please clear this up for me.. IM A HURRICANE ... the coaches are coming to my house Wednesday ..."

UMike

Tito workin...

2015 Monarch (Fla.) Athlete Shawn Burgess-Becker said his goal for the season was to put his team on the map and prove the doubters wrong. After finishing 8-3 and making it to the playoffs, the Knights are no longer considered a light threat.

“I had faith in our team since the first day of practice, I thought we were going to have a great season once we got some more people on our team.”

Burgess-Becker ,along with fellow star 2015 athlete Calvin Ridley, were leaders for the team on both sides of the ball and helped guide the way for the Knights. However, when you ask him, he diverts more credit to the rest of his team.

“I wouldn’t necessarily say we are the face’s of the team because we have a lot of other skill players; like we have another 2015 corner back Ronnie Huggins, who had seven interceptions and probably like 3 catches at the most caught on him. We have Michael Harris, our quarterback, he led in passing yards or something like that. We had a couple other good receivers and couple other outstanding defenders. At the end of the day it was teamwork, it’s not just two people making all the plays.”

As far as expectations for the team next year, the 6’2 180 pound athlete wasn’t shy at all.

“Honestly, I’m going to tell you the truth: I just don’t see us losing a game next year, if everybody does and plays the way they did this past season, I don’t see us losing a game next season. I know it gets tough next season during the playoffs, but if everybody just executes, we can win a lot more games and actually all our games.”

In terms of recruiting, the Monarch product holds a top 5 of Alabama, Miami, LSU, Florida and Florida State in no order. He talked about that list and where it stands.

“I’m very comfortable with those top 5 schools. No one is leading, but I’d probably say the schools that are talking to me the most are Alabama, Miami and Florida State.”

Miami made the most recent news with Burgess-Becker, when they recently offered his teammate Calvin Ridley.

“I was very happy that Calvin got that offer because you know me and him are trying to play for the same team and we both have more of the same offers. I know he was very happy about the offer and I was very happy about it, now we’re just trying to see if Ronnie Huggins can get those offers and we can go from there.”

It’s been noted that both of the star athletes have planned on playing with each other, but Burgess-Becker elaborated a little more on that.

“Me and Calvin grew up playing football together, so if it could be possible I would love to play football with Ronnie Huggins and Calvin Ridley.”

Both Ridley and Burgess-Becker were down in Coral Gables this past weekend to watch Miami practice and seemed to enjoy themselves.

“The practice was good. It seems like they have a lot of fun out there on the field, Al Golden does a great job of coaching them up and all their players are flying around. It looks like they’re having a great time at the University of Miami.”

While Miami did make a big step by offering Ridley, schools like Alabama and Florida State are still recruiting Burgess-Becker very hard.

Alabama:“I went up to Alabama, me and Mario Cristobal have a great connection. Once I got up there, it was nice. It was different, but it was nice. All the players, I feel like they’re very comfortable there, the coaches treat the players with respect. Nick Saban is a very cool person, me and him had a talk before the game.”

Florida State: “I got up there, the campus was beautiful and the stadium is very nice. All the players were very focused waiting on the game to start. After, I got a chance to walk around and talk with coach Sal (Sunseri) and he just wants me up there again.”

http://www.canesinsight.com/content/2182-Burgess-Becker-Recaps-Season


^^^^ Miami will want those guys bad!! Already 4 & 5 stars in the 2015 class.

UMike

Miami commit Nigel Bethel, a 5-foot-9, 175-pound cornerback from Miami Booker T. Washington, said he is solidly committed to the Hurricanes, but an offer from Georgia might change that.

Bethel was talking about his future Saturday night after BTW defeated Jacksonville Bolles 40-21 to win the Florida Class 4A state title, also clinching the mythical national title for the Tornadoes, who were ranked No. 1 in the country by at least seven different media outlets.

Bethel, who changed his name from Nigel Patten when he turned 18 this past spring, is intrigued by Georgia and the Bulldogs just might come calling.

"I'm pretty much solid to Miami, but Georgia's been talking to me lately and so if they pull the trigger I'll give them some interest," Bethel said. "Georgia and Miami have been my dream schools coming up, so to get an offer from them would be a very big deal."

Pictures: UCF Knights vs. Rutgers Scarlet Knights

Bethel, however, said just because the Bulldogs offer, doesn't mean he'll be flipping the switch. He's firm with his hometown Hurricanes, but intrigued by what Georgia my have to offer. He said his only official visit will be to Coral Gables for the weekend of Jan. 16, but if UGa does offer, he'll also trip to Athens.

"It would be very difficult, because I already have my mind set on Miami," Bethel said of the odds that Georgia could flip his commitment. "If they are going to get me then they got to do a lot of recruiting. It would have to be a better position for me than what I already got at Miami."

Bethel wasn't as ecstatic as the rest of his teammates following the Tornadoes third straight trip to the state title game, and second straight state championship victory. He wasn't very pleased with the way he played in his final high school game.

"I feel very blessed, but I feel like today my performance wasn't as great as it should have been," Bethel said. "It's very bittersweet ... but I'm happy for my teammates and everybody else."

He'll be heading separate ways from many of his BTW senior teammates now, with the exception of defensive ends Chad Thomas and Demetrius Jackson, who are both also committed to Miami.

Quarterback Treon Harris is headed to Florida State, receiver Lamar Parker to West Virginia, receiver Deltron Hopkins to Appalachian State, offensive lineman Jordan Ingraham to FIU, athlete Krondis Larry to Samford and still others who have yet to pick a college.

"It's going to be very hard," Bethel said. "Guys like me, Lamar Parker, Treon Harris, Terrawn McPhee ... I grew up with those guys. Now it's time for us to part ways and it will be very tough knowing all of us are going different ways in life."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sport...0,7063164.post

UMike

JC Jackson will be on an official visit this weekend also... would be a huge flip

UMike

Valentine got another in-home visit last night from assistant coaches.

SOUP

Off to New Port Richey.

Surfercane

UMike - we must keep all our D linemen, no flipping allowed lol. Go get em and keep em Al!!

Let's go CANES!!!!!!

Sinistercane

Good morning spacers

raizecane

UMike - I have been to a couple of Apopka games and they are very good. One of my friends for many years has a son that play defense for Apopka.

longtimecanefan

Just woke up, did Louisville score already?


Heard we might try a new scheme on D. We'll let Bridgewater run and pass himself wild and hope he tires out by the 4th quarter so we can make a come back.....

LB

"Just woke up, did Louisville score already?"

That's funny.

Again, our draw could have been much worse.

SinisterCane

NOFENSE's scheme made every ACC QB look like Tom Brady and know we're about to face the college equivalent in Bridgewater, I hope our defensive recruits don't watch the bowl game

Terrance Sullivan

Good stuff LB, but I aint buying that Louisville is a better draw. Their is no way in h*ll anyone will convince me that the Russell Athletic Bowl is better than the Chick Fil A Peach Bowl but it is what it is, when did Miami fans get scared and run from competition lol. But looking forward to partying with U all in O-Town. Go Canes! Beat the Cardinals! and lets end the bowl game and 10 win drought and thats the best reason to be excited about this game. I could give two craps about the Teddy Bridgewater or Clint Hurtt or Eli Rodgers or any other lame story peeps trying to put out here to hype this 3rd tier bowl game. U can put lipstick on a pig but at the end of the day its still a pig.

dj moonbat

I knew L-vile's schedule was weak, but I didn't know it was that bad. For instance, they played 3 top 30 defenses, but all those defenses in turn were playing some very soft competition.

Louisville's only test (ranked team) was UCF. They failed.

Miami might lose. After Duke, I'm all out of 'never.' But it sure won't be because our opponent was tougher by virtue of tough competition.

Go Canes

Thanks for the info U mike.

UMike

NP Go Canes...I try to pass along as much as I can.

Terrance Sullivan

I see on International drive they have Twin Peaks, Tilted Kilt, and Hooters, Oh My! LOL I know where I will be LOL! Go Canes! Beat the Cards!

Old Skool

Terrance are you saying we might have to have a pre-meal scout to determine who's fielding the best talent(4 and 5 star waitresses)?

Terrance Sullivan

Old Skool Yes Sir!

LB

"Good stuff LB, but I aint buying that Louisville is a better draw."

An easier opponent than Texas A&M.

TJL

Didn't know the Auburn RB Tre Mason is from Park Vista HS in Palm beach. NONE of the Florida schools recruited him

dj moonbat

An easier opponent than Texas A&M.

Posted by: LB | December 10, 2013 at 11:24 AM


See, there's the problem. Miami right now can only prey on the sickest in the herd. We fans cannot have any justifiable optimism going up against a legitimately potent team.

Yeah, yeah; I know all the reasons why this is true. It's still depressing.

CGNC

LB nicely done. I really like the way you do the stats

CGNC

TJL - LOL you and I can fix the Palm Beach recruiting when I get down there

Go Canes

Dj if Auburn wins the title 45-41 do you think they'll be happy?

Sinistercane

Go Canes

What is your expectation for Al Golden and how long should he get to reach those expectations

Sinistercane

Go canes is either NOFENSE's wife or his agent

UMike

Go Canes... giving up 41 and WINNING a big game is one thing..giving up 48 to Duke or 42 to a bad VT team and LOSING, that is another.

Go Canes

I understand that, I just curious.

LB

Thanks all.

Terrance Sullivan

LOL Duke is 10-3 and VT is 8-4. So our 3 combined loses were to teams with a combined record of 31-7 and we played them in 3 consecutive weeks with 2 on the road. Not making any excuses just giving facts, we should have won either the Duke or VT game and we didnt thats what it was Sigh! At least now we arent getting our pants pulled down by teams with losing records cause that ish was embarrassing. Go Canes! Beat the Cardinals!

Go Canes

Duke was a defensive collapse, Virginia Tech was a total team collapse.

And grow up Sinister, please. I'm just a fan of the Canes, like you are, well I think.

As far as my expectations for the Canes, I want and expect them to be a national power again.

But I am aware enough to know that has been an impossibility based on the NCAA mess and the bad hire that preceded it.

I want a team that can compete for and win it's division every year, play in the ACC Championship game and make a BCS bowl more often than not.

I don't expect a title every year, or to go undefeated every year or to shut every team out every year. I also know we are going to have a three loss season now and again, even going forward.

But I expect those seasons to be the exception, not the rule.

Those who expect more that have no concept of what college football has become and continues to evolve into.

UMike

TSully...you know your my boy... but that 31-7 record doesnt tell the real story lol...first, FSU is 12-0, second even though Duke had a good year, their toughest game was against Miami, the worst D in the ACC. They lost to Pitt and GT and didnt have to play FSU or Clemson. So while they are 10-3, they didnt really play anyone. VT game them the game with a ton of turnovers. And the loss to VT...VT came in struggling on offense and of course, we give up 42 to them lol... No way we should of lost those 2 games. We let Duke's RB run for a career high!!!!! God I cant wait for us to be good so we can say "remember when we were so bad Duke scored over 40 on us and he RB had a career day?" lol.... At the end of the day I am happy with a 9-3 season and a bowl game, it is better than last year and we got a lot of exposure etc, BUT...our schedule was tailor made for a 11-1 or 10-2 regular season. I am an Al Golden fan, but I honestly believe D'No will get him fired. Next year we dont have this cupcake schedule and our DLine and LB spots will be worse off imo

orange 'n green in the vein

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20131210/college-football-bowl-rankings/?eref=sihp

"8. Russell Athletic (Dec. 28): Louisville (11-1) vs. Miami (9-3). Teddy Bridgewater will give his final NFL audition. If it goes anything like last year's Sugar Bowl, hello, Houston Texans. Miami won't have injured star tailback Duke Johnson, but keep an eye on standout linebacker Denzel Perryman."

The excuse machine didn't answer Sinister Cane's question you'll notice, but told him to grow up? Now that's funny.

Here, I'll try for you Sinister, since this answer will be so enlightening as to the type of mentality UM's ticket manager AD is hoping to prevail amongst fans of the football team instead of upholding the legacy of championship expectations for the team like the coach pays nothing but lip service to these days;

Go Canes, how long do you think Alverage Slogan should be afforded to actually win at a high level instead of getting blown out by 27 to FSU, 18 on homecoming and 18 to Duke for the division title?

What I love about the no responsibility brigade is they act like Alverage wasn't hired to win games the last three years as he failed to so many times over and that he was only hired to win after everything was set up perfectly for him. NO coach in the country is expected to have no evaluation of his performance until the stars perfectly align for him, especially at a school with the national success as Miami has had, so if Alverage can't win next year, he's not cut out for being the coach at UM and it's time to cut the umbilical cord and send him back to the bottom feeders of the sport in the group of five. There's plenty of proven coaches that can win at a high level ready to move up, in fact Curtis Johnson is looking pretty good right now and will be a great choice next year if he keeps up the job at Tulane he's done, even Clawson being stolen from Wake if he ends up there would be awesome, but that would require some 'underhanded' hiring and stealing from schools in conference, in other words, an AD who is more adept at making good hires than managing slagging ticket sales.

Go Canes

I agree with a lot of what you say U Mike but I don't think our d-line and backers will be worse next year.

Chad Thomas, even as a freshman will be an upgrade over anyone we had this season. Muhammad and McCord will be full time starters, also an upgrade. And U and Ohio can tell us if that Juco DT from out west is everything we are hearing he will be, so that should be another upgrade. I also hope when Perryman sees where he's going in the draft he decides to stay, instead of making the huge mistake the guys made two seasons ago.

We also have some very good DTs coming in who can hopefully start making real contributions by mid season.

Jermaine Grace should make sure Armbrister never sees the field again and Artie Burns will be a huge upgrade at corner.

In my opinion slowly, spots currently filled with marginal players are being replaced with guys who can really play.

Old Skool

Regarding end of season collapses, I believe we have had more of those over the past five years than ending the season in a positive direction.

canezilla

TJL - LOL you and I can fix the Palm Beach recruiting when I get down there

Posted by: CGNC | December 10, 2013 at 12:02 PM
I LIKES THE SOUND OF THIS!!!!

UMike

Chad Thomas is unproven and currently undersized... but he does have the potential. We wont have any quality depth at DT and out best players, outside of maybe Pierre will be freshman. I like the idea of McCord and AQM playing more, but the DT is still a big problem. IMO, Perryman is gone. Grace and Figs are the only names that sound good, but there is zero depth, and definitely not quality depth lol... but who knows, those freshman and sophomores may surprise us.

Go Canes

Ogv I guess we just agree to disagree, which is fine.

I see Coach Golden starting to do exactly what Jimbo did at FSU, rebuilding a traditional power up again from scratch after years of mismanagement, dysfunction and in our case the biggest NCAA scandal of our life time.

He is just further along in the process than we are in my opinion.

As far as how long it should take? I feel over the next two recruiting cycles we will get to where we all want us to be.

Remember Jimbo has been there 5 full years and as head coach went 9-4 and 9-4, then 10-2 last year with a team far superior to where we are now.

Like I said, I guess we see the program being in two different places which is cool.

Terrance Sullivan

UMike U my guy to the end. I guess I was saying i am glad we have gotten over the hurdle of the completely embarrassing losses to losing teams that are not going to bowl games or arent bowl eligible cough cough Virginia, and Wake Forest like we have done in seasons past but I agree with your sentiment bruh!

VfB_Cane

As long as things are getting better every year, we shouldn't complain to much, Yes, perfection is great, but it rarely happens.

So where do we stand:
2013: 9-3 was a realistic expectation going into the season. Personally, I expected the Canes to lose to UF, FSU and VT, which would have been good enough to get us into the ACCCG.

2014:
At least 9 wins, win the coastal, avoid blowout(s) against FSU. Improve on defense.
Atrocious defense and not winning the Coastal should prompt changes to the coachings staff.

2015: 10+ wins, have a shot at winning the ACC (FSU's wunderkind will be incarcerated or in the NFL by then). Win big games against good opponents. Dominate weaker teams.

2016: I want it all, and I want it now (Freddie Mercury).

UMike

Go Canes..I can agree with everything you just said, BUT...I think the difference between FSU/Jimbo and Miami/Golden is the defensive coordinator. Not only has FSU got top recruits, they have been coached up and improved over the years. As long as D'No is here Golden will not be able to get to Jimbos level. Even with a couple more classes like this years class, it wont matter if D'No is here. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw Shayon Green on the bottom of the screen covering a WR or TE!! I will admit, Green has improved a lot, but what in the world is he doing covering someone?? lol... I simply think D'No doesnt know what he is doing, especially against decent coaches who make good adjustments.

herbieibis

The Herb understands everyone has opinion of the whys and why nots of this program but The Herb is way beyond the pity party that most of you keep wanting to fall back on, which is the Shapiro Gate. Okay I get the point that we got bent over the table for a while and got rear ended, with a stiff job. You make your bed and you lie in it. Even our beloved prez laid with the devil for some quick loot. Who's to blame? Nobody but ourselves. We got away with it for 8 years or so. We stunk recruiting for most of that time. We didn't have enough QB's at one point, we didn't have enough DB's at some point and next it was WR's and last it was our DT situation. This has been ongoing. I'm surprised we were able to get some of the guys we got here lately like Duke, Chick (although he's another Sean T)and a few others. The bottom line when it comes to this defense, as a team, they have gotten worse. The stats, this year say we are better and so do the wins but are we really playing anybody. Okay we had FSU, Flo. & Va. Tech, who generally have good defenses but the rest of these teams on our schedule stink. OGV is right, the Coastal was handed to us this year on a silver platter and we choked. Yes we had some injuries, who doesn't, We suk on third down conversions both offensively & defensively but if we had a dam defensive coordinator who could make adjustments and inspire kids to play for him, we could already be relevant and 11-1 to boot.
Whether Golden wants to or not and not is probably the right word but the right thing to do is dump his old chum and with all these good recruits we have coming in allow somebody else to coach them before he makes the next batch all mediocre.
By the way, it wouldn't matter who we play in a bowl game, good draw or not, as long as DENO keeps playing prevent, what he's preventing I don't know, we better score at least 35 to 45 to have a chance to win. As I said before, if he couldn't round these guys into a defensive force in 4 months, what's 15 extra practices!

Ohio_Cane

JUCO LB and DT's will fill important roles next year.

SinisterCane

Sorry CANEZ FANS


We're not winning anything major with AL at the Helm, without the NCAA cloud over our heads he seems to be a good recruiter but who in the holy hell is going to devolve the defensive talent being brought in? This defensive crap scheme has been in place for 3 years now and I've seen more regression then progression from the defensive players. THE LACK OF TALENT EXCUSE WENT OUT OF THE F@@KIN' WINDOW WHEN WE LOST TO DUKE. Funny thing is AL was a TE in college and never played DEFENSE in College and has the nerve to blame the player and not his SH!T scheme. I could find more use of morning spit shot into a bucket of hot piss then AL's defensive philosophy

UMike

Ohio..I cant think of any JUCO LB's on the radar right now. DT Cory Johnson is out, but we still have a shot a Pelon I guess. Wyche is a 4-Star JUCO according to 247, so that will help. There was 1 JUCO LB earlier in the season that was talked about, Antonio Smothers, but he committed to Arizona.

SinisterCane

DEFENSE

I wanted to see what it felt like to type the word :(

Ohio_Cane

Oh, and I DO NOT expect Perryman to leave this year.

UMike

I do..hes got a kid now, the defense is bad and he could be a decently high pick. JMO of course.

dj moonbat

Dj if Auburn wins the title 45-41 do you think they'll be happy?

Posted by: Go Canes | December 10, 2013 at 12:04 PM


I have no idea how this relates to what I was saying.

I was saying that given the team we have, drawing L-ville as an opponent sounds "better" than drawing, say, Texas A&M or somebody else who's been tested by serious competition.

Auburn fans can feel completely justified in rooting for their team to end up playing the toughest teams out there -- because they've ALREADY BEATEN the toughest team out there, and they're working their way down the list. Whether they win 45-41 or 17-14 or 3-0 doesn't really matter; the point is, Auburn fans have no reason to FEAR anybody.

Miami fans, on the other hand, can go into their bowl game with plenty of bravado (hey, why not?), but it's a simple fact that if they do that, there are quite a few teams out there that would provide us a very rude awakening if we do. (Think the LSU curb-stomping in the Peach Bowl, maybe.)

If we want to wake up the next morning and have some good feelings to go along with our hangovers, we have to play somebody that's not very good. That's kind of sad for a team with UM's pedigree, if you ask me. Well, really sad, actually.

SinisterCane

What does Perryman gain for returning for Senior year, becoming a better FS/SS?

30CINCO

It's funny how people want coordinators fired every year if their team does not perform as they expect. Then these same folks want all the top talent to go to the same team that always fires said coach? How does that work? How did that work out for us when coordinators were being changed left and right under Shannon?

UpNorthCane

Guys Perryman's girlfriend comes from a wealthy area in Rhode Island. How do I know? Well I'm from Rhode Island and know the area her parents are from. I'm
sure they'll have the support of the family if Perryman indeed wants to finish his senior year earn his degree and ball out in order to get drafted higher.

UpNorthCane

So I'm with Ohio I believe Perryman stays and anchors this defense next year.

SinisterCane


It's funny how people want coordinators fired every year if their team does not perform as they expect. Then these same folks want all the top talent to go to the same team that always fires said coach? How does that work? How did that work out for us when coordinators were being changed left and right under Shannon?

Posted by: 30CINCO | December 10, 2013 at 02:17 PM


Shannon didn't lose to Duke

30CINCO

How many All ACC first or second teamers did we have in 2011? 3, all on offense

How many All ACC first or second teamers did we have in 2012? 1, Duke on offense and ST

How many All ACC first or second teamers did we have in 2013? 5, one of them on defense

Where are all these all americans we have on this team that are not being coached properly?

Based on this, I can clearly see progress, dont you?

30CINCO

Shannon didn't lose to Duke

Posted by: SinisterCane | December 10, 2013 at 02:23 PM

Didnt Shannon lose to USF? Why is it possible for USF to be good one year, but not Duke? Isnt Duke in a better conf than USF?

UMike

It's funny how people want coordinators fired every year if their team does not perform as they expect. Then these same folks want all the top talent to go to the same team that always fires said coach? How does that work? How did that work out for us when coordinators were being changed left and right under Shannon?

Posted by: 30CINCO | December 10, 2013 at 02:17 PM

Miami as had 2 of the worst defensive years in school HISTORY the last couple years and dead last in the ACC this year. Yea, a league with Duke, UVA, WF, Maryland etc... we finished last lol... that is why a change should be made at that spot. Has nothing to do with MY expectations, that is just horrible according to anyone's expectations lol

30CINCO

Dont get me wrong, I dont blame Shannon at all! I don't think his people skills were the greatest, trusted the wrong people and didnt trust everyone else. He is a Cane and I appreciate the hell out of him. He was just not ready to be THE MAN.

Go Canes

Shannon didn't lose to Duke but his ineptitude, lack of leadership and inability to comminicate with just about anyone started this disaster.

So that statement is just about the most ridiculous thing anyone can put on here.

He left this program in shambles even before Shapiro broke.

5 commits going into our last game.

Five!

And the most of the rest of this team was out of shape, stoned and lazy.

And while he didn't lose to Duke he lost many more games that we're more embarrassing and under no adverse conditions.

30CINCO

Posted by: UMike | December 10, 2013 at 02:31 PM

Let the man recruit without our hands tied behind our back! Let the man coach up the kids he recruited. Let us get some quality depth...

Didnt our D stats improve this year? Didnt our records improve this year?

SinisterCane

Question for anyone

If Shannon left AL with poop players, how come none of AL's player are starting for him 3 years later

Ohio_Cane

Mack Brown stepping down at Texas.

Ohio_Cane

Question for anyone

If Shannon left AL with poop players, how come none of AL's player are starting for him 3 years later

Posted by: SinisterCane | December 10, 2013 at 02:52 PM
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Huh?

UpNorthCane

Ricky Williams to Texas Fo Sho!!!

30CINCO

Question for anyone

If Shannon left AL with poop players, how come none of AL's player are starting for him 3 years later

Posted by: SinisterCane | December 10, 2013 at 02:52 PM

Tracy Howard, Duke Johnson, Deon Bush, Malcolm Lewis (before injury), Ereck Flowers, Rayshawn Jenkins, Pat O'Donnell, Ladarius Gunter...

30CINCO

Need more?

Anthony Chickillo, Phillip Dorsett, Denzel Perryman...

then there is a whole list of backups.

SinisterCane


Question for anyone

If Shannon left AL with poop players, how come none of AL's player are starting for him 3 years later

Posted by: SinisterCane | December 10, 2013 at 02:52 PM

Tracy Howard, Duke Johnson, Deon Bush, Malcolm Lewis (before injury), Ereck Flowers, Rayshawn Jenkins, Pat O'Donnell, Ladarius Gunter...

Posted by: 30CINCO | December 10, 2013 at 02:56 PM

You shamed me on that 1 but Duke was coming to the U regardless

SinisterCane

Hello Nick Saban


Mack Brown stepping down at Texas.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 10, 2013 at 02:54 PM

UMike

Posted by: UMike | December 10, 2013 at 02:31 PM

Let the man recruit without our hands tied behind our back! Let the man coach up the kids he recruited. Let us get some quality depth...

Didnt our D stats improve this year? Didnt our records improve this year?

Posted by: 30CINCO | December 10, 2013 at 02:39 PM

Our D stats were great..until we actually starting playing people lol

dj moonbat

Shannon didn't lose to Duke but his ineptitude, lack of leadership and inability to comminicate with just about anyone started this disaster.

Posted by: Go Canes | December 10, 2013 at 02:35 PM


Bull$sh!t. Shannon wasn't a good enough HC to fix the rot in the program, but the team that he took over from Uncle Fester was terrible.

30CINCO

Our D stats were great..until we actually starting playing people lol

Posted by: UMike | December 10, 2013 at 03:02 PM

You have to look at the whole picture!

Ohio_Cane

Question for anyone

If Shannon left AL with poop players, how come none of AL's player are starting for him 3 years later

Posted by: SinisterCane | December 10, 2013 at 02:52 PM

Tracy Howard, Duke Johnson, Deon Bush, Malcolm Lewis (before injury), Ereck Flowers, Rayshawn Jenkins, Pat O'Donnell, Ladarius Gunter...

Posted by: 30CINCO | December 10, 2013 at 02:56 PM
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Stacy Coley, Herb Waters, Dallas Crawford (after Duke injury), Anthony Chickillo, Olsen Pierre, Antonio Crawford, Matt Goudis.

Was this a serious question?

Ohio_Cane

Ok, Mack Brown NOT stepping down. LOL

30CINCO

Stacy Coley, Herb Waters, Dallas Crawford (after Duke injury), Anthony Chickillo, Olsen Pierre, Antonio Crawford, Matt Goudis.

Was this a serious question?

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 10, 2013 at 03:05 PM
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I think SinisterCane tapped out on this one.

SOUP

OK, enough coach bashing already.

wE HAVE BEEN OVER THIS GROUD 1,000 TIMES.

LET'S MOVE ON TO THE BOWL GAME.

OR BASEBALL.

SinisterCane

I think SinisterCane tapped out on this one.

Posted by: 30CINCO | December 10, 2013 at 03:08 PM


I was blindly slingin' mud but the NOFENSE still sucks as a DC

30CINCO

I have a question on recruiting for those in the know.....

Does the D-CORD recruit? I usually see HC, Coley,Barrow, and Franklin tied to most recruits.

How do the recruits feel about the D-CORD?

longtimecanefan

Still hearing Mack Brown may step down.

I sent the No'D's resume just in case. Also offered the U would pay a share of the salary if they take him....

orange 'n green in the vein

He gains nothing, nothing Sinister, except a year of not being able to have a job that provides for his family, so if he has his degree, there's nothing left for him to do in college because UM isn't winning anything of note again next year.

'Two recruiting cycles,' meaning . . . eight years from now, or meaning two years of recruiting from now, so it takes a total of six seasons? Either six or 11, good coaches don't need that much time to win, at Miami, they need much less. Again, win next year, something significant that UM hasn't won before or else the AD is only going to have easy marks who refuse to be critical of a failing coach to manage ticket sales for, luckily, Blake's got a history of doing just that since he took the job so we know he's qualified at doing that, but as for much else? Jury's still out until the off season at least.

Ohio_Cane

I have a question on recruiting for those in the know.....

Does the D-CORD recruit? I usually see HC, Coley,Barrow, and Franklin tied to most recruits.

How do the recruits feel about the D-CORD?

Posted by: 30CINCO | December 10, 2013 at 03:14 PM
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Yes. He was actually key in pulling AQM and one other I just read about recently.

30CINCO

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | December 10, 2013 at 03:31 PM
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I'm pretty sure it took Butch a few years of recruiting to get up to the level the 2000-2002 team....just saying that it does sometimes take that much time....EVEN at Miami.

Ohio_Cane

LB Juwon Young (Albany, Ga.) and DE Trent Harris (Winter Park, Fla.) have signed grant-in-aid for spring 2014. #Canes

30CINCO

Yes. He was actually key in pulling AQM and one other I just read about recently.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 10, 2013 at 03:33 PM
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thanks

Ohio_Cane

SOTU writers ‏@TheStateOfTheU 25s

So, that's Berrios, McDermott, Young, and Harris all in for spring so far. Yessir. Yes. Sir.

Ohio_Cane

SOTU writers ‏@TheStateOfTheU 25s

So, that's Berrios, McDermott, Young, and Harris all in for spring so far. Yessir. Yes. Sir.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 10, 2013 at 03:37 PM
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And Darling and Yearby

Terrance Sullivan

Amen Soup! This bringing up coaches and bashing coaches is beyond tired. We got a bowl game to get ready for. and hopefully we can get the job done against the Cardinals. BTW we are a 3 point underdog by the boys in Vegas saw that while having lunch reading my Montgomery Advertiser newspaper. Go Canes!

30CINCO

SOTU writers ‏@TheStateOfTheU 25s

So, that's Berrios, McDermott, Young, and Harris all in for spring so far. Yessir. Yes. Sir.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 10, 2013 at 03:37 PM
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Thats big as far as development and learning the playbook. We signed a small class last year, whats the max number we can take in as EE's? not including the guys who didnt get in and will try again.

Ohio_Cane

For those of U not counting, that's 6 EE's so far, with possibly more to come.

Do I remember someone trying to tell me that we couldn't have more than 4 EE?

BEERicane

People still read newspapers (in print)? Now, THAT is newsworthy.

Ohio_Cane

Thats big as far as development and learning the playbook. We signed a small class last year, whats the max number we can take in as EE's? not including the guys who didnt get in and will try again.

Posted by: 30CINCO | December 10, 2013 at 03:42 PM
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HUGE!

I don't know an exact number, but my estimates was around 9-10.

And yes, especially if Griffin ends up qualifying.

LB

"I agree with a lot of what you say U Mike but I don't think our d-line and backers will be worse next year."

Agreed. If AQM can put on some weight to go along with that speed, he'll be effective. I also like the fact that he wasn't a freshman phenom (the types who usually fade). It'll give him something to work for.

Defensive tackle is just yuck. It has been for years. It wouldn't shock me to see two 2014's on the two deep, if not starting altogether.

"If Shannon left AL with poop players, how come none of AL's player are starting for him 3 years later"

I "think" I understand your question. Why aren't Al Golden's players (2011-2013) starting for him in year three? In fact, they are.

The seniors that play and produce? Hurns (my LOF), Linder, Susan's Man, Hagens, Morris, Green, Gaines. Though Porter/Robinson play, they don't produce. The majority of starters are Golden's players.

I do think the defense will be better next year, but until the schedule comes out... I won't know for sure. But D'Onofrio sucks, his ceiling is so low they might have hit it, and no amount of 4 and 5 star d-line talent can change that.

Being talented can win you 10 games (which they still can do) and the Coastal. But until your players get aggressive (outside of Perryman/Howard) and produce a pass rush, you're going to be stuck at 2nd place in a 4th place conference.

LB

"So, that's Berrios, McDermott, Young, and Harris all in for spring so far. Yessir. Yes. Sir."

Isn't Berrios that fast slot guy from NC? I remember that speed and agility if that's him.

30CINCO

HUGE!

I don't know an exact number, but my estimates was around 9-10.

And yes, especially if Griffin ends up qualifying.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 10, 2013 at 03:44 PM
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I'm excited for the future bro! Once we have a team of our best players being juniors and seniors, sprinkled in with big time fresh and sophmores, we are gonna be cookin with grease!

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