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May 14, 2014

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Terrance Sullivan

Great stuff Soup I think FSU had 8 players drafted, Clemson and North Carolina had 5 players drafted each, Miami and Virginia Tech each had 3 players drafted Pitt had 2 players drafted and so on and so forth. Overall the ACC was just behind the SEC in number of players drafted. Go Canes I predict next year we have at least 5 guys drafted.

tonycane

Jammi German!

The Dude

Tres.

86Cane

K-DUB #5

The Dude

5 guys drafted? Let's see.

Perryman, Dorsett, Duke, McCord, Bush, Walford, Flowers, Waters, Gunter, Howard, Kirby, Pierre, Chickillo, Jenkins, Feliciano and McDermott. All of those guys could be drafted. There's 16 guys and I could be missing someone?

Imagine this, all of them jump early. Now Golden has another excuse going into 2015.

I think the D will suck again in 2014 and will cost us games. I'm not sold on Coley as an OC either. Both coordinators sucked last year. I'm hoping Coley figures it out in year 2. There is more than enough talent to win the Coastal and not lose to Duke. I'd like to see an Al Golden team overachieve for once. I just wonder how many games we have to lose before folks wake up to the fact that Butch is available.

herbieibis

Don't care how many get drafted, just do the job at the college level and The Herb will be happy.

VA Cane

MC5 Kick Out The Jams, Mother F**ker!!!!!

canezilla

T.S WHAT 5 WILL BE DRAFTED NEXT YEAR?

UMike

Morning Spacers!!! So tonight is my sons last band concert.... he has choose to stick with JROTC full time rather than band. These dam kids, they grow up way to fast man!!!

Terrance Sullivan

Zilla I predict Perryman, Dorsett, Feliciano, McDermott, Chickillo, btw I also think Gunter and Walford can possibly get drafted also So I ultimately think 6 or 7 but I will be my moderate self and say 5 of those 7 I named. BTW I don't think U get any early jumpers I think It's starting to set into guys mindset that unless U are a sure fire 1st round pick U better get that degree U don't wont to be like the guys that left early like in 2011 or for that matter the 36 guys nationally that left early from this past season who didn't get drafted that's a reality check for your arse. Remember Perryman, Chickillo, Feliciano, and Walford all could have left and been in this years draft and my guess is at least 3 of those 4 would have been drafted if not all 4 so they made the smart decision to come back and get their degree and finish one more year in palatial Coral Gables. Go Canes!

UMike

If Walford is target enough he should definitely get drafted. He is a big play TE when we go to him.

nemo2002

It looks like voter approval will be required for a new waterfront soccer stadium. As such, the investors would be wise to design a joint use soccer-football stadium with a seating capacity suitable for college football - because UM football fans would certainly rally in support of the ballot proposition. Indeed, we ought to start "lobbying" the mayor and city commission to insist that such a "joint use" condition be incorporated into any resolution authorizing the referendum.
We should start a campaign for UM football to "come back to the City of Miami." And where better than a waterfront stadium in downtown Miami?
Would such a stadium be appealing to fans, players and recruits? You betcha!

Ohio_Cane

Walford has a stat that will impress NFL scouts that will take the focus off the fact that he wasn't thrown to often. 90% of his catches are for 1st downs or TDs.

30CINCO

Don't the Heat know it's a school night? Can't be bringing up my blood pressure that high on a Wednesday.

Ohio_Cane

Joe Johnson was unconscious or it wouldn't have been close. Lebron had him locked down and he was still hitting fadeaways, no rim involved.

thirstybuzzardcane


Would such a stadium be appealing to fans, players and recruits? You betcha!

Posted by: nemo2002 | May 15, 2014 at 08:52 AM


The traffic would be horrendous!!!!! I like were we are, it's great location for the fans north of Fort Lauderdale. I'm telling you, Joe Robbie does have the atmosphere.....If you went to the Ohio State, Oklahoma, Florida, Florida State games you would know!!!! The Oklahoma game was my favorite, the Robbie was rockin that night.....I'm sure Soup would vouch for that!

Go Canes

5 guys drafted? Let's see.

Perryman, Dorsett, Duke, McCord, Bush, Walford, Flowers, Waters, Gunter, Howard, Kirby, Pierre, Chickillo, Jenkins, Feliciano and McDermott. All of those guys could be drafted. There's 16 guys and I could be missing someone?

Imagine this, all of them jump early. Now Golden has another excuse going into 2015.

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So if we lose the seniors and pretty much every decent to good junior we have too, are we good enough to just reload at this point?

If that's the case then I think the word "excuse" applies. If not, we are just a team lacking the depth to recover from losing that many players.

Don't think it will happen anyway. Can't see anyone but Duke and Flowers jumping ship early.

30CINCO

Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | May 15, 2014 at 09:15 AM
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My thoughts exactly. Traffic is already bad for Heat games and that arena holds about 19/20k. Add another 20k to that, it would be bad.

Those games you mentioned, ALL had great atmospheres.

UMike

I am perfectly fine with Sun Life.

canezilla

DONT SEE ANY JUNIORS LEAVING EARLY,THINK GOLDEN WILL DO A GOOD JOB ON KEEPING THESE GUYS IN SCHOOL AND FINISH WHAT U STARTED!UMIKE U CAN BE FINE WITH SUNLIFE BUT HAVE U EVER BEEN TO A GAME HERE WHEN WE PLAYED A SMALL SCHOOL OR A LESSER ACC FOE?ITS FUKING DEPRESSING.UPPER LEVEL HALLWAYS ARE EMPTY,FOOD AND DRINK PLACES ARE SHUT DOWN,ITS A GHOST TOWN.I ALMOST DONT LET MY WIFE GO TO THE BATHROOM ALONE!SO SIGN ME UP FOR A SMALLER STADUIM IN MIAMI WHERE WE CAN TAILGATE ON THE STREETS AND SEE THE SKYLINE!!

Terrance Sullivan

I am perfectly fine with Sun Life also.

CaneRock

Don't care how many get drafted, just do the job at the college level and The Herb will be happy.

Posted by: herbieibis | May 15, 2014 at 12:41 AM

YUP!

We had more players drafted than Duke, they beat us.

We had either as much, or more players drafted than VT, they beat us.

UMike

zilla.. I was there for he charleston shouhern game... but even at the OB it wasnt full for weak opponents. When we play nobodies I would get like 10 tickets on ebay for $30 lol... I dont think a change of stadium will make i better for games like SSU... imo

UMike

I will go see them play anywhere, just saying Im ok with sun life lol

Ohio_Cane

The Juniors will stay/leave depending on how this season goes. If they see a very bright future (2015 playoff team), they'll stay.

If not, and they're projected pretty high in the draft, they're gone.

30CINCO

UNC had more players drafted, we beat them.

Florida had more players drafted, we beat them.

Ohio_Cane

Hurricanes Football ‏@CanesFootball 50s

Good news for #ProCane Sean Spence (@3Spence1). He's been cleared to play for @steelers in 2014: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/06/steelers-cant-wait-to-watch-sean-spence-play-football/


WOW! So happy for Spence! I didn't think he'd ever play again after watching that injury.

30CINCO

Pitt had just as much as us, we beat them.

Virginia had just as much as us, we beat them.

30CINCO

Posted by: UMike | May 15, 2014 at 09:40 AM
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You're right, the OB was dead against the nobody's, especially for the noon games .

CaneRock

With the exception of maybe Flowers, the rest of the Jrs need another year. Especially Howard & McCord, those guys need another year in the weight room.

CaneRock

Per CIS, we've offered this kid:

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3213888/neville-gallimore

Depending on who you believe, they say this kid is anywhere from 280 to 325. But even if He's 280, His big @$$ can MOVE!

CaneRock

Jack Allison @Jackof2016
by smillerdegnan
So thankful to get an offer from The University Of Miami! #blessed
2h ago

Terrance Sullivan

UMike I am in total agreement with U. Zilla Yea I also dont think we have anyone leave early. Go Canes.

thirstybuzzardcane


With the exception of maybe Flowers, the rest of the Jrs need another year. Especially Howard & McCord, those guys need another year in the weight room.

Posted by: CaneRock | May 15, 2014 at 09:53 AM


Hope the juniors see that there were 36 undrafted juniors in this years draft. I bet those 36 player wished they would of stayed for 1 more year.

thirstybuzzardcane

Anyone know how much Spence weighs right now?

Go Canes

I can't believe anyone is still throwing out the "We were more talented" line after the last two NFL drafts.

Five total players taken, only one of which went before the fifth round. We have as many punters (1) taken as defensive players in the last two years. We've only had two defensive linemen even drafted in the last FIVE years.

We are now rebuilding and in my opinion, finally building depth and talent again.

CaneRock

Huh, Khalil Mack went to the same HS as Luther Robinson, and made 140 tackles in His ONLY YEAR OF HSFB, was 6'1" 215, and we still missed on em'. More evidence that the evaluation process in 2010 was FLAWED!

And I saw that team play in person...they showed up with literally a van load of kids, and beat a team that had a roster of like 50-60 kids 49-14! My wife's friend from HS had a kid on Mack's team.

CaneRock

I can't believe anyone is still throwing out the "We were more talented" line after the last two NFL drafts.
Posted by: Go Canes | May 15, 2014 at 10:39 AM

And again, what does that have to do with losing to Duke & VT?

"Stars" are only a small part of TEAM & ORGANIZATIONAL success at the College level.

Will Muschamp & Mack Brown will tell you THAT!

EVERYTHING has to come TOGETHER.

BEERicane

Exactly, GC. I've been saying for some time now that our talent is alleged talent, not actual talent. We have had zero big time playmakers at any position in the past at least 5 seasons (other than punters/kickers) -- perhaps the most over-hyped player was Lamar Miller. Fast, sure. Good RB? Not so much.

BEERicane

Coley is looking like he could be the first first-rounder we've had in a long while here. That kid is amazing.

SinisterCane

GO CANEZ

Go Canes

Peter Ariz‏@PeterAriz·8 mins
Dwayne Lawson commits to Miami. #Canes

Ohio_Cane

StateOfTheU.com ‏@TheStateOfTheU 5m

Welcome to the U: Dwayne Lawson. 2015 QB picks #Canes over #Vols #Gators #Buckeyes http://sbn.to/1jMpBri

Ohio_Cane

Peter Ariz ‏@PeterAriz 30m

Miami's newest commit is 6-5, 230-pounds and runs a 4.7. He plays QB. #Canes

VA Cane

And again, what does that have to do with losing to Duke & VT?

"Stars" are only a small part of TEAM & ORGANIZATIONAL success at the College level.

Well said CR you know it!!!!!

Fundamental football, further development of current skills, listening skills, wanting to learn TEAM football, accountability for your assignment, positive attitude, dedication and discipline, accepts constructive criticism, learning new schemes and skills, sacrifice, aggression and controlled rage, the ability to think and ask question....a strong, dedicated, aggressive, compassionate, knowledgeable coaching staff able to coach, explain answer and teach the above, the development of players. These are some of the things that must come together in unison and harmony with the final goal being WINNING. That all I want; the maximum effort to achieve the ultimate goal. Winning Championships. I do not play for 2nd 5th or 10th place. To earn the right to be the best!!!!

You do not need 85 5* to win. It is nice to have a few, but so much goes into winning consistently at this level that in the end the * count is not a big issue. Tell them CR. So much has to come together in a perfect storm.
You will always ONLY pursue perfection; but if you give it all you got as a TEAM, you may catch excellence. Thanks Vince!!!!!

CaneRock

That Lawson kid has some looooooong arms. But that's a good thing when it comes to QB play:

"Arm spread to overall height of the individual is helpful. The important thing here is that the player have long arms in comparison to His height. He can be 5'10" or 5'11" and yet have long arms to his overall height or it is possible that he may have longer arm spread than a player 6'2" or 6'3". The length of the throwing lever, as determined by the the position of the axis of rotation in the forearm, functions as a factor in control of accuracy of the throw, the longer lever, as represented by the distance from the axis of rotation to the fingers, allows a greater range of motion. Therefore, more time is available in which to direct the force and accuracy of the object thrown. A shorter lever arm restricts the range of movement and offers a shorter period in which to make the muscular adjustments. The important thing here is that the individual have long arms in comparison to his height. These qualities are prevalent in the outstanding passers of our day. It is a physical quality that follows most outstanding men in the athletic field in which throwing is the desired skill."

VA Cane

Great info and well put Dr Rock. You always have great things to add that make a lot of sense. How about his hands? Any idea about size and strength of them?

Thanks for the great post!!!

VAC

Ohio_Cane

Lawson needs some work, to be frank. But, U can't teach his size, athleticism, and speed. He'll be sort of a project getting his throwing motion, dropback, etc refined.

CaneRock

VAC...from what I can tell, Lawson has some big hands.

CaneRock

They all need work, heck, even Andrew Luck had to RS.

Old Skool

Go Gators ....

Former New England Patriots star Aaron Hernandez -- already charged in the 2013 slaying of a semipro football player -- faces murder charges in a 2012 double homicide in Boston.

VA Cane

Thanks CR, a lot of the pro scouts speak of the importance of large strong hands. young man seems very good and with hard work, dedication and Good Coaching, he will get better.

Old Skool

In addition to the two counts of first-degree murder in Abreu and Furtado's deaths, Hernandez has also been charged with three counts of armed assault with intent to murder and one count of assault and battery by means of a dangerous weapon.

If this happened in Gainesville while Aaron was playing, he could be in serious trouble. A couple of more felonies and he might have to sit out for a whole quarter.

IraqiCane

QB 22, Dwayne Lawson (Hillsborough Senior HS) Tampa, FL, 6/5/207 05/15/2014
Miami (Fl)

CaneRock

Here we have a gay player causing all this uproar, but all this time, we had an alleged serial killer in the NFL. That's the NFL for ya'.

Ohio_Cane

They all need work, heck, even Andrew Luck had to RS.

Posted by: CaneRock | May 15, 2014 at 01:13 PM
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True, but this one needs more than most "top qbs". A RS year + one more on scout team.

Ohio_Cane

Of course, at his size and speed, convert him to WR and no RS year needed if he can run routes lol

CaneRock

VAC...to your point of large strong hands:

"It is helpful to have a large enough hand with long fingers to afford better balance in throwing an object the size of a football. The size of the object affects the manner in which it is thrown. When a large object is thrown the preliminary action is restricted. The delivery is slower because the finger action is limited, the follow through is directed toward a target through full arm extension, and the release is difficult if the object is to large for the hand. Large hand, and particularly long fingers, are an asset in handling the ball for balance and especially when playing on a wet field it is an advantage."

CaneRock

But I agree with the big hands more than the long arms, although the long arm theory is credible. I know Marino and Favre had some big a$$ hands, those guys used to palm footballs like grapefruits.

j.w.

Interesting QB commit. I haven't found any recruitniks criticising the pick, but I guess that's to be expected. Hoping he sticks, and competes.

CaneRock

I'll tell ya' what though, Coley get's on these kids early...if only He had an eye for DTs LMAO!

Ohio_Cane

With the exception of Skai Moore, who we eventually offered just really late, we're early/on time to offer DL. They just don't come here for the most part lol

Lurker

If this happened in Gainesville while Aaron was playing, he could be in serious trouble. A couple of more felonies and he might have to sit out for a whole quarter.
Posted by: Old Skool | May 15, 2014 at 01:18 PM

It did happen in Gainesville. I'm sure you're familiar with the car/street shooting outside of a Gainesville bar where earlier Hernandez was seen arguing with the people that were eventually shot. The description of the shooter was a big Hawaiian looking guy with a couple of sleeves of tattoos. The Gainesville PD initially did a quicky investigation, Foley and Urban got involved, there's even documentation that Urban had a 1 hour meeting about it at the school, then all of a sudden the investigation died. Urban has no recollection now of a one hour meeting about a possible murder but one of his star players. Seems likely, right?

orange 'n green in the vein

Hey look, a blog dedicated to chanting ACC because UM underachieved yet again. This is what losers have to resort to in order to deflect from not being good enough to stand on their own.

Next there's going to be a huge wave of 'respect' the Semenholes and Jimbo sentiment because they hammered Alverage into the unemployment line. That will be head shaking laughable when it happens and it's already started the last two years.

I heard Lucic took handshake encounter BINGO quote lessons directly from Alverage after every game 49-49 career record coached against a team not the worst in three generations that an opposing program has put on the opposite sideline.

Ohio_Cane

Alex DiPrato 7News ‏@AlexDiPrato 3m

TORNADO WARNING for Miami-Dade county.

CaneRock

They just don't come here for the most part lol

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | May 15, 2014 at 02:09 PM

I like the haul that we've got coming in, but we just don't get them to come here as often as I'd like LMAO!

Ohio_Cane

Hey look, OGV went off-topic again to rant about how Al Golden sucks, Jimbo rules, and Lucic apparently models himself after Al

CaneRock

Once thought to be a mortal lock to transfer to Texas, it appears Max Wittek, the erstwhile USC quarterback, will be forced to pick another destination.

The Austin American-Statesman, citing a source close to the situation, wrote Wednesday “that the Longhorns are backing away from offering Wittek a scholarship for undisclosed reasons.” The development is more than mildly surprising as Wittek has visited Austin on multiple occasions, including the spring game.

To where Wittek will turn, if the report is accurate, is unclear, although he does have several options.

In addition to Texas, Wittek has visited Hawaii as well. LOUISVILLE is also thought to be a potential destination, while PITTSBURGH has been part of the discussion too.

As Wittek will graduate this spring, he will be eligible to play immediately at any FBS program and maintain two years of eligibility.

Wittek was a four-star member of the Trojans’ 2011 recruiting class, rated as the No. 3 pro-style quarterback in the country. In late March, Wittek announced he would be transferring from USC in search of a better shot at playing time.

Ohio_Cane

Matt Porter ‏@mattyports 1m

Ex-#Canes P Pat O'Donnell (PB Central) signs a 4-year deal with the #Bears worth $2,325,308, per Chicago Tribune. Signing bonus: $105,308.

SOUP

NWS Miami is still running a second Tornado Warning for Central and NE Miami west and north of MIA.

SOUP

Ohio...U beat me to it, I was just gonna post the O'Donnell info!

Ohio_Cane

I beat U to the tornado warning too lol

SOUP

That's why I put STIIL and SECOND warning above U silly rabbit.

The Dude

Can't judge him in 2011 because its his first year. 2012? Nope, early departures. 2013? Nope, there's a cloud. 2014? Nope, can't do that even though he wanted to leave. 2015? Nope. Because we don't judge Al... ever.

Relax Go Canes, I was only trying to help your Al Golden spin machine early. The team could lose a lot of starters at the end of the year, and we all know Al can't win with a young team because the defense that gives up 500 yards a game to nobody QBs is so complex and sophisticated.

The Dude

SOUP, just delete O_C's posts and you'll be first! ;)

CaneRock

Nope. Because we don't judge Al... ever.

Posted by: The Dude | May 15, 2014 at 03:37 PM

Damn sho see that way, don't it...TD LMAO!

SOUP

Haters gonna hate.

Ohio_Cane

SOUP, just delete O_C's posts and you'll be first! ;)

Posted by: The Dude | May 15, 2014 at 03:38 PM
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Now see, if he deletes mine, I have to delete yours because U suggested it. Then we have a frenzy because U think your posts are getting eaten by Typepad. So U complain to SOUP that Typepad sucks and in turn, SOUP sends a nasty email to them complaining posts are getting eaten.

So U see, it's all a lot of work to delete my posts and take my firsts, and it's just not worth it. ;-)

30CINCO

lol - worrying about Butch, who actually left vs whining over and over about someone who THOUGHT about leaving, but didn't.

Makes complete sense.

The Dude

Haha O_C.

The Dude

Yeah whining over and over, lol, from the guy that never let's sh!t go but is the first to complain about people beating dead horses, smh. Butch got his criticism for leaving, back then people were actually allowed to do that. At least Butch left us with a team that played for 2 national championships, whereas Golden was trying to leave after being exposed in a bowl game with a month to prepare. So I guess you're right Cinco, its like totally the same thing.

The Dude

I think I am now beating the dead horse about Cinco claiming people beat dead horses. I may be creating a rift in timespace.

Ohio_Cane

Sentinel Recruiting ‏@OS_Recruiting 12m

#Miami offers Bishop Moore 2016 OT Parker Boudreaux, his 17th #Hurricanes

Sarasota 'cane

lol - worrying about Butch, who actually left vs whining over and over about someone who THOUGHT about leaving, but didn't.

Makes complete sense.

Posted by: 30CINCO | May 15, 2014 at 03:56 PM

Long time spacers!! Not sure that anyone is "worried" about Butch, nor has anyone forgotten that Butch left us for the NFL and 5 times the money he was making at UM.

The issue is that Al was actively looking for a new position at the same time a proven HC (Butch) said he would be happy to take the UM job. Donna would have entered "Rock Star" status had she the nuts to tell Al The U was going to head in another direction and hired Butch. But she didn't. She let Al play her for 10 days and then pretended like nothing happened.

The silver lining is that Butch didn't take another job so in a sense he is still in play for next season when we are in exactly the same place we were in at the end of last season.

I don't hate Al Golden. I defended the guy right up until Butch said he wanted his job back. What are you suppose to say at that point? You have a proven recruiter/winner who WANTS to coach at The U vs a guy who we later find out was just mailing it in until he could get back into the shower room at PSU. It's a no-brainer. And the reason it's OK to debate the topic before the season starts is because we already know how the season is going to end.

Hope to see many of you here in ATL for the GT game!!

Go 'canes!!

The Dude

"The silver lining is that Butch didn't take another job so in a sense he is still in play for next season when we are in exactly the same place we were in at the end of last season."

Truth.

The Dude

CR,

It does seem that way. Some people will defend this guy forever. No accountability from them on the D. Its all perfectly acceptable to them that we lost to Duke and got smashed in the bowl with a month to prepare. They're cool with D'Onofrio hanging on and actually believe he did enough to save his job and that Al's not just protecting his friend.

The Dude

Let's all be honest here. Mark D'Onofrio is still employed @ The U because Al Golden is his boy. He'd have been fired already anywhere else.

30CINCO

lol - I'm beating a dead horse? Really? I'm pretty sure I wasnt the one who started complaining again with the same exact thing discussed.

Butch left us with a great team, who is going to argue with that? The part you seem to forget is that during his 4th season is when the plane was flown with the message to have him fired, when the same ones crying now wanted Butch out then. Took him until his 6th year to have a team that won 10+ games. AND he had a better team handed over to him.

So yeah, its still funny hearing the same exact thing now, after 3 seasons.


CaneRock

I would agree with Manny's "why even bother" comment, but after reading that Trevill Holcy article, these "soft verbals", "commitable", or "non commitable" offers, are a two way street. Same way these coaches want these kids to "honor" a commitment, is the same way that a coach should give a GENUINE offer...you're either offering me, or YOU AIN'T!

Go Canes

Who on here defends Al Golden non stop?

SOUP

Jeremy Crabtree ‏@jeremycrabtree 2m

Ricky Town's flip from #Bama to #USC is 2nd biggest decommit of '15. Who else made list? http://es.pn/1oU00wI (in) pic.twitter.com/5S0or8raLy

AHHHH...WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN. LOOK AT THE MITTS ON THIS GUY!

Ohio_Cane

Harry Miller hasn't been back since Town committed to USC, has he?

Sarasota 'cane

I remember those days vividly 30cinco. The difference is that Butch has since proven himself to be one of the greatest recruiters in the history of college football.

When you are one of the greatest recruiters in the history of college football then you do not have to be the greatest gameday coach.

30CINCO

I remember those days vividly 30cinco. The difference is that Butch has since proven himself to be one of the greatest recruiters in the history of college football.

Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | May 15, 2014 at 04:43 PM
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He sure did. I am glad the administration did not listen to the cry babies who paid for the banner and gave the man time prove himself.

SOUP

Sarasota...where U been? Good to see U back!

SOUP

GoCanes...in that article U posted FSU has four players in the top 10, UM has one player. We still got a ways to go. and I would add OL Flowers to the top 32.

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