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July 30, 2014

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CaneRock

BURNS!...UNO!

Ohio_Cane

Bush! Dos!

SOUP

I got U Ohio, I got U!

Ohio_Cane

From CIS on DE Shelton Johnson:

“It’s mainly between Florida State and Miami , I like those two right now,” Johnson said. “I could become my own man in Tallahassee but still stay in Florida with my family not too far away. Whatever visits I end up taking, I think those will happen after the season.”

http://miami.247sports.com/Article/I...Ahead-29910286

The Best DE in South Florida, for 2015.

UMike

Johnson=Project

Ohio_Cane

Johnson=Project

Posted by: UMike | July 30, 2014 at 10:03 AM
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Did NOT see this coming! LOL

UMike

JK about the project.. but I like Strowbride better as far as South Florid DE's

Ohio_Cane

Johnson would need a redshirt year to bulk up, but that does not = project IMO.

UMike

IDK much about Johnson, I was just busting your chops.. but Im a Strowbridge fan

Ohio_Cane

I like Strowbridge a lot. He's slower than Johnson, but stronger. I think Johnson has a higher ceiling.

Honestly, Johnson reminds me of Demetrius Jackson.

VA Cane

Nice piece, great video. You watch the clips, and see incredible plays catches tackles runs blocks etc; great display of ability and talent.

We need to get to where we are doing it every down; the little things the fundamentals the basics. We do that, the talent and explosiveness that small things can unleash is unstoppable. Lots of speed explosion!!!!!

Nice presentation!!!

30CINCO

CaneFreak is the best, awesome vid.

#cantwait
#dale
#cafecito

The Dude

If the defense plays like it did against Florida we'll be alright.

VA Cane

Very much so Dude, the pressure was on UF all day. Not sure how good they were, but it was near the beginning of the season, and they had not fallen apart.

We hit like that we can play with anybody. Thats what we need to do.

UMike

Our players played with a fire that game they never did the rest of the year.

VA Cane

We have got to execute fundamental football, which includes the mental side of the game. We have the talent no doubt. Its the execution thing, along with passion and aggression. We play 12 games like that and we will have a banner year Winning...which gets the verbals into the corral, gets them committed and closes that gate behind them!!!!!!

CaneRock

I was gonna say UNC, but then I looked, and we gave up 500 yards against em'...YIKES!

Our best defensive performance, was against WF, we only gave up 361 yards...so I'd like to play like that every week...alright maybe half the season...OK maybe 2 or 3 games...pleeeeease...pretty please? LMAO!

KYcane

Fkn cold chills watching/listening to the video.

Thanks
CaneFreak

Thanks Soup

The Dude

Remember how WF's "spacing" gave us trouble, lmao!

Go Canes

We may have given up 500 yards against UNC, but again you have to look at the ENTIRE picture.

In our first eight posessions of that game the offense had exactly ONE drive of over 2:20, including four that were four plays or less. We had

In the third and fourth quarters, where we had four drives of at leat three minutes or more, UNC had only two field goals and went three and out it's final four posessions.

The reality is Morris threw four picks, we punted three more times and the DEFENSE saved that game for us by holding UNC scoreless in the fourth quarter.

That storyline happened a lot last season.

Yes the defense was terrible at times, but the offense completely hung them out to dry against more than half our opponents.

JameriCANE

Turn Up!!!

Terrance Sullivan

Bottomline scoreboard. We beat UNC, Wake Forest, Florida, Pitt, USF, FAU, SSU,UVA, GT. So for as god awful as our defense alledgedly was we happened to win 9 games. Time to take the next step this season. Go Canes! I cold give 2 craps about yards just win the freaking game. Is the 1986 National Title at the Schwartz Center since we had like 550 yards against Penn State or is that trophy in Happy Valley because we had 550 yards of offense but 10 freaking points? Priorties Peeps!

30CINCO

Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | July 30, 2014 at 11:43 AM
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on the money

WWIN

Out D was actually great until we played unc, then it went down hill!! Lol

Tsully, SM17 actually struggled the first game of this season against fau!

WWIN

Posted by: SOUP | July 30, 2014 at 08:21 AM

This can't be healthy for this kid right????

Terrance Sullivan

LOL WWIM

raizecane

Im not able to view the video.....says its private.

86Cane

In our first eight posessions of that game the offense had exactly ONE drive of over 2:20, including four that were four plays or less. We had

In the third and fourth quarters, where we had four drives of at leat three minutes or more, UNC had only two field goals and went three and out it's final four posessions.

The reality is Morris threw four picks, we punted three more times and the DEFENSE saved that game for us by holding UNC scoreless in the fourth quarter.

That storyline happened a lot last season.

Yes the defense was terrible at times, but the offense completely hung them out to dry against more than half our opponents.

Posted by: Go Canes | July 30, 2014 at 11:33 AM

Cue Terrance in 3, 2, 1...

86Cane

Raize...try again, I think I fixed it?

raizecane

86 - That did it.....got me some chills over hear....

CaneRock

So let me get this straight...I bring up 2 games that we won, one of which we gave up LESS yards than the other, and now ya'll trying to convince me that giving up 500 YPG is cool?...OK.

j.w.

Terrance, unfortunately I don't seee the next step as one that goes forward. Too much uncertainty and too little depth right now. The next two recruiting classes look like they are exactly what we need so the future looks fantastic. The present? we will see. DBC has us going 11-1, though, so I could be wrong. :)

I do agree with 86, the offense was as big a problem as the defense most of the year. Hoping that we at least don't drop off on the offensive side, though.

The Dude

CR,

There was a time when the defense could be counted on no matter what. Gone are those days at The U. Some here argue gone are those days in college football.

Go Canes

CR my point is it's practically impossible not to give up 500 yards to another team when your quarterback throws four interceptions and you do absolutely nothing with the majority of your other possessions.

UMike

IDK.. during the Jitters/Turf Face & Nix years the QB play and offense was pretty shitty and our D didnt give up 500 yards and 40 points consistently.

UpNorthCane

Here are two things we all know...

1. Stephen Morris sucked last year and was not a leader.

and

2. Our defense sucked last year because No'D doesn't have a clue.!!!

Ohio_Cane

Here's my homer take on the D...

If we're not better than last year, even with a tougher schedule, D'No has to go. Period.

Yes, I know, it's Golden's D. Doesn't mean he wouldn't give up those reigns to a new DC, if one were hired. (Barrow)

UMike

Its like the double or triple OT game against Clemson they always show on CSS Classics.. we could barely move the ball, but our D battled the whole game and kept us in it and we won.

86Cane

CANESPACE RULES 2014

Rule #1: Increase average points scored per game by 3 from 34 to 37.

Rule #2: Decrease average points allowed per game by 3 from 27 to 24.

Rule #3: Increase 3rd down conversion rates on offense from 35% to 40%.

Rule #4: Decrease 3rd down conversion rates on defense from 42% to 37%.

Rule #5: Limit turnovers on offense to 20 and have 30 takeaways on defense (+10).

Rule #6: Limit penalties to 5 per game and have less than 500 penalty yards this season.

That is all.

UMike

Just make enough plays on offense, defense and special teams to ensure we end up with more points.

Terrance Sullivan

Just win baby! That is all!

UMike

tSully... I did call BTW. Didnt order yet, but the dude told me all I needed to do and he would hook it up. I appreciate your help.

Terrance Sullivan

Umike anytime fam and I looked it up online on UM website hurricanesports.com and the ticket max is 12 bruh. See U in the ATL on October 4th.

Terrance Sullivan

J.W. it will get better or we will have a whole new coaching staff in the coming years and soon too.

CaneRock

Believe it or not, I don't have a problem with D'Onofrio, or even the scheme. I just don't get this notion, that EVERYTHING has to be PERFECT for either both of em' (D'Onofrio & Scheme) to succeed. That's the impression I got from that WQAM interview where Golden threw Coley under the bus. And YES!, TOP & 3rd down conversions last year were horrible, but there's gonna be several games like that when we make a NC run...

VA Cane

The D will not be prolific; we know that. I do think they will get better. One they know they have to get better; just look at the way we played last year. Two, I think we will have some help on D that will make us just a little better; not Top 5 D but say Top 50 D would work. 116th in total D is embarrassing, and we can do better.

Stop the run, pressure the passer consistently, better closer coverage (pressure will give QB less time to find his guys), 3rd down stops get off the field, cover the damn TE. Basic stuff that if we improve we will be able to win the way we need to.

Just get a bit better; don't press and say we got to be #1; let it happen.

CaneRock

but there's gonna be several games like that when we make a NC run...

Posted by: CaneRock | July 30, 2014 at 04:11 PM

Ala 2002 against BC & VT.

VA Cane

Both good scary games in 2001-02. Dorsey threw 4 picks against BC; then the bounce of Rumphs leg to Walters then Reed grab....huh Rumph to Walters to Reed and we got by. 26-24 in Bburg Dec 1 cold day we came close to losing. Ernest Wilford dropped the 2 point conversion in the end zone....I was about 15 feet away on the sidelines!!!!!! Talk about ironic....Wilford from Richmond, played for me....and is Morgan Moses cousin. I was so torn that game; remember it well.

Great teams win those games; we may have to win a couple like that.

VA Cane

off of Rumphs leg my error.....

Go Canes

We never really know what's going on...

@PLamRecruiting: According to #LSU beat writers, Fr. DT Travonte Valentine, out of #Hialeah #Champagnat, is still waiting to be cleared by #NCAAclearinghouse

Cane Country

Awesome video! Check out our offensive outlook on miamicanecountry.blogspot.com

Ohio_Cane

We never really know what's going on...

@PLamRecruiting: According to #LSU beat writers, Fr. DT Travonte Valentine, out of #Hialeah #Champagnat, is still waiting to be cleared by #NCAAclearinghouse

Posted by: Go Canes | July 30, 2014 at 04:34 PM
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It was rumored during his recruitment that he couldn't get into UM. His handler said he had a 3.1 gpa, but what about credits, test scores, etc?

U never know.

VA Cane

I give AG and Co lots of credit; they are pretty good about recruiting those guys who can get in; they have turned guys down; they stuck with Trayone and it looks good.

Valentine having problems? How in the hell can one not get in to LSU same as FSU except for the F!!!!!! A mental midget could get in at either one!!!!

Go Canes

Kellen Winslow II on QAM talking about how Swasey is the man.

CaneRock

Also, didn't a few of the Champagnat kids transfer...

KYcane

I could give 2 craps about yards just win the freaking game.

Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | July 30, 2014 at 11:43 AM

Yep

GatorKillerCane

What is the current thinking on where Trayone Gray will be slotted----safety?

KYcane

IDK.. during the Jitters/Turf Face & Nix years the QB play and offense was pretty shitty and our D didnt give up 500 yards and 40 points consistently.

Posted by: UMike | July 30, 2014 at 02:03 PM

Yep

KYcane

Stop the run, pressure the passer consistently, better closer coverage (pressure will give QB less time to find his guys), 3rd down stops get off the field, cover the damn TE. Basic stuff that if we improve we will be able to win the way we need to.

Posted by: VA Cane | July 30, 2014 at 04:14 PM

Yep

CaneRock

IDK.. during the Jitters/Turf Face & Nix years the QB play and offense was pretty shitty and our D didnt give up 500 yards and 40 points consistently.

Posted by: UMike | July 30, 2014 at 02:03 PM

Yep

Posted by: KYcane | July 30, 2014 at 05:38 PM

Make that a double...YEP!

Go Canes

Just go up and down those rosters and see how many of the players from those defenses ended up in the league.

CaneRock

Just like clockwork.

You criticize the DC...they blame it on the players. You criticize the scheme, they blame it on the offense. Never fails...tick,tock,tick,tock,TICK!

Go Canes

No, I blame both parts of the ball equally because they both cost us games that were winnable last year.

Some of you just need a scapegoat (Coach D), when the reality is this team lacked depth and talent on defense and failed to execute on offense over and over and over again.

Part of it was coaching, part of it was scheme and part of it was talent and execution by players.

What was even 1% inaccurate about what I wrote regarding the UNC game?

Nothing.

Show me a defense in todays game that gives up less than 24 points to UNC at home, on a Thursday night when throwing four interceptions.

The D won that one for us.

Just like the D killed us in the Duke game, even though the offense completely shit the bed in the second half as well.

What's so complicated about that?

I guess it's easier to scream Coach D sucks and needs to be fired.

Go Canes

Random pull.

2006 Canes defense had Jon Beason, Kenny Phillips, Brandon Meriweather, Calais Campbell, Bryan Pata, Tavares Gooden and Randy Phillips starting.

Think we are better than we were this season with those this starting for us?

Or is that me just defending the coaches?

Mountain Cane

2006 was way better, although Campbell fell in that category we've seen too much of lately----playing much better in the league than in college.

Mountain Cane

Think Gray will see any non-special teams pt? If so, what position?

CaneRock

We scored an average of 29 PPG against VT Duke...Morris didn't throw 4 INTs in either game...but YET!, we gave up over 10 FREAKIN'! football fields of yardage! And we didn't lose either of those games because of a talent gap, or lack of depth...we got OUT-COACHED!

CaneRock

Alluding to what UMike said...I've seen some bad UM offenses, but never to the point of giving up 500 YPG in half your games.

The Dude

Mtn Cane.

According to Gray the staff wants him @WR. Many bloggers think he should play WR. I on the other hand think he should play RB because he can cut, run w/ speed or power and we need more bodies @RB. I think Gray is in the McGahee mold if you ask me. Plus he is so dangerous when he has the ball, why not give it to him more often? I think he has speed but I don't think he ran many routes in HS. He was @ his best running the ball in HS. We shall see though.

Go Canes

VT's first three TD drives averaged exactly 40 yards.

We gave up 232 yards defensively in the last 16 minutes of the game after we had 5 of 6 drives offensively be three plays or less.

That was a team implosion. Just like the Duke game where we did this late offensively:


02:47 3 02:29 MIA 9 5 35 Punt
14:12 4 01:40 MIA 1 4 40 Punt
11:37 4 01:28 MIA 24 4 18 Punt
06:50 4 01:34 MIA 25 4 7 Turnover on Downs
01:04 4 01:02 MIA 29 8 55 Turnover on Downs

Like I said, the defense was terrible at times but the offense failed to execute over and over and over again.

Go Canes

That was 3 and out, 4 and out, 4 and out, 4 and out on downs and 4 and out on downs to down the stretch.

TEAM implosion.

The Dude

I think its totally fair to put some of the defensive blame on the O not being able to put drives together but you have to be careful not to deflect from the FACT that Mark has run the worst D in recent history. Mark is historically bad. The O has had a ton of talent on it. Duke was out and was our only explosive back last year because Corn Elder plays D. Gus was a freshman and we didn't have the kind of OL that can punish you for 4 yards running whenever we want w/ SOUP @RB. We have to get deeper @RB (FACT). Morris was a HUGE issue last year and James Coley showed his inexperience @OC. His offense needed to be dumbed down like Fisch's was. I doubt Morris had more than 2 reads ever under Fisch.

The Dude

Go Canes,

We used to be able to shut down everyone in the 4th qtr no matter how bad the O was. I want to have that back but don't think Mark and Al can do it, largely because their scheme has to many assignments and the LBs and Safeties get lost and the DL get worn out. Again, not saying their scheme can't work, just they aren't good enough coaches for it to work. Rather out talent the O on the defensive side of things, like Louisville did to us.

Go Canes

No one on here has ever heard me write Coach D is a good coach Dude.

Ever.

But pointing out all of the facts that went into our losses, yes facts, not ranting, is treated as defending this person or that person.

Our D sucked at times, but it was the least talented one we have fielded in the 30+ years I've been watching the Canes. Forget about stars, if you look at it with your own eyes it's undeniable.

We lost the Duke and VT games on BOTH sides of the ball. Stating that is not defending anyone, it's pointing out facts.

And I say again, it will be so much better over the next two seasons and going forward. We are replacing every departing player with a bigger, faster and stronger football player.

The Dude

I don't think it was untalented. I think the scheme sucks. I think Armbrister, Perryman, Bush, Jenkins, Howard, AQM, McCord, Pierre, Robinson, Gunter and pre bulked up Chick can play. I think its just a super passive scheme. It allows a lot of plays to happen underneath coverage and let's only 1 or 2 guys attack behind the LOS. WRs get space to catch and run. I'll admit its not a deep D, and guys will get tired, but to me the biggest problem is that its way too passive.

The Dude

The reason you get blasted Go Canes is because you defended Golden not firing Mark. At least I'm pretty sure you defended the decision. Now I get Al not firing Mark. But he should have been at least demoted, Al should have swallowed his pride and brought in an actual DC, but then I don't want to get into a debate about who's available and what not.

The Dude

I'm not saying I could coordinate a college O or D, but I don't think its rocket science either. Mark & Al's D seems really easy to shred up. Here's how:

1. Motion the TEs and WRs because it will confuse the coverage. How we are never prepared for this I will never understand.

2. Chip the best pass rusher, AQM or McCord. The rest of the guys aren't good enough to control 2 gaps and get pressure on the QB.

3. Overload the running side of the ball. Miami won't come out of their assigned gaps to stop the run.

4. Take what the soft coverage gives you and have the QB try to hit the WR in stride. This will basically be pitch and catch so really practice the underneath stuff because Miami will not yield a lot over the top.

CaneRock

02:47 3 02:29 MIA 9 5 35 Punt
14:12 4 01:40 MIA 1 4 40 Punt
11:37 4 01:28 MIA 24 4 18 Punt
06:50 4 01:34 MIA 25 4 7 Turnover on Downs
01:04 4 01:02 MIA 29 8 55 Turnover on Downs

Like I said, the defense was terrible at times but the offense failed to execute over and over and over again.

Posted by: Go Canes | July 30, 2014 at 07:17 PM

"Over and over and over again"? We scored 30 FREAKIN'! points...and that was without PD4,Duke, & Coley (2nd half). How many points did He need?

The Dude

Miami's O with Duke is way different than w/o, make no mistake about that.

Here's my take w/o Duke last year.

On throwing situations, sit back and make the QB beat you underneath (Morris can't) be very careful not to underestimate his arm strength, when in doubt, know he can get it there.

On running situations, man up and stack everyone inside the box, neither Crawford or Johnson can spill for large yardage. And BLITZ! BLITZ! BLITZ! If Miami should decide to throw here, Morris will struggle to recognize where the pressure is coming from. Force the throw out early to prevent WR seperation and get Morris off his throwing spot. The OL is a pretty good unit picking up a conventional blitz, but Morris will rush the play.

The Dude

W/ Duke

All the same, except... HOLY sh*t did you see that stiff arm and cut? 54 yards run to the house!

The Dude

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasnt FSU the only team to get much over the top on us?

Ohio_Cane


2006 was way better, although Campbell fell in that category we've seen too much of lately----playing much better in the league than in college.

Posted by: Mountain Cane | July 30, 2014 at 06:43 PM
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I agree we've seen a trend like that lately, but using Campbell probably isn't the best example.

I don't remember all the accolades, but I'm pretty sure he was an all-American and is top 5-10 in sacks for a season. Not sure how much more U wanted from him.

Ohio_Cane

Gray is starting at WR like the dude said. I wouldn't mind him at RB either. Give the kid the ball and watch him work. His athleticism will let him play anywhere, so I wouldn't be mad if he was on D if he's not needed on O

The Dude

While the defense may not have been deep last year. Only FSU, Florida & Louisville, maybe UNC can say they were deeper or as deep.

I think Louisville put on a clinic as to how our D should look.

The Dude

Campbell was preseason player of the year in some magazines though. He certainly didn't live up to that hype.

trianglecane
LQ

The year before he left Campbell was good but that next year he was awful. We had a great game vs the aggies

VA Cane

This is how stupid the athletes at FSU are; Winston better hope he stays healthy and can play in the NFL. Thinking is certainly not one of his strong points. I find it hard to believe a guy can be this stupid, but hey it's FSU!!!!

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/sports-cfb/20140730/Winston-Pellet.Gun/

30CINCO

http://www.caneshooter.com/p315215734

New uni's on players.

Posted by: trianglecane | July 30, 2014 at 08:37 PM
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Them uni's are niiiiiice!

30CINCO

All smoke with orange helmets are probably my favorite.

Think we will be riding with the all white with traditional helmet come Sep 1st.

86Cane

You criticize the DC...they blame it on the players. You criticize the scheme, they blame it on the offense. Never fails...tick,tock,tick,tock,TICK!

Posted by: CaneRock | July 30, 2014 at 06:05 PM

JUST STOP IT DUDE!

Do NOT argue just to argue, that is NOT the Canespace way. Make your point and move the FFFF on. Do NOT attack other bloggers.

Unless of course U you are CoCane then U can do whatever the FFFF U want!

86Cane

Gus was a freshman and we didn't have the kind of OL that can punish you for 4 yards running whenever we want w/ SOUP @ RB.

Posted by: The Dude | July 30, 2014 at 07:25 PM

Put me in coach, I'm ready to play!

But I have dropped 30 pounds since last season so I may have to juke them or dive over the top instead of run over them? LOL

86Cane

I want Gray at RB...NOW!

Let Duke start (of course) then sub him out for Yearby and then Gray. Then U take out Duke and the TE at the last second and put Gray in the slot with HoneyNut Berrios on the other side with Coley and PD4 and Waters or Lewis.

OK, clean up on aisle 5...

86Cane

With the RBs coming in next year and the year after that Gray will prolly wind up at WR unless he bulks up?

Montreal_Cane

Joe Rose on kevin Olson today...Right or wrong, Rose was very hard on the kid who has not played a down yet in CFB

Joe Rose Show Podcast 7 - 30 - 14 On Kevin Olson at the 1:48:45

https://soundcloud.com/wqam

WWIN

Yes, I know, it's Golden's D. Doesn't mean he wouldn't give up those reigns to a new DC, if one were hired. (Barrow)

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | July 30, 2014 at 02:08 PM

So how do you fire D'no when it's AG's D?? We should fire AG from the D!

WWIN

Put Gray at FS and punt return and let him become the next Sean Taylor!

#RIP26

WWIN

Special Teams should make the difference for us this year, our star players don't have to be out there anymore!

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