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July 24, 2015

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CaneRock

RIP Bobbi Kristina Brown. Outliving your kids sucks.

VfB_Cane

I know there won't be agreement whether the article posted by Sinistercane is spot on or misses the point.
But this part is great:

"I’ll cheer for them [the players]. Even if they are 0-11, I’ll cheer for them to win that 12th game. And I’ll cheer for Golden to succeed, even if I think it won’t happen. I’d rather be wrong and have a great football program, then be right and endure another restart."

That's should be our common ground as fans. Cheer for the Canes to win, wherever we live, whether we have the chance to go to games, follow them on TV, a crappy internet stream, on WVUM and what not.

Go Canes

@mattyports: ICYMI: Miami's new commit seems like a fun-loving dude https://t.co/C4SGCLghfW

Go Canes

@mattyports: Leading up to the start of Canes camp (Aug. 6), we'll preview each position. First up: QBs. http://t.co/WeIzKsRZyl http://t.co/64YP1BruNd

CaneRock

When UM wasn't paying for summer school, was that a UM thing, or an NCAA thing?

UMike

Since we lost yet another 4-Star local RB, I hope we are able to land Fils-Aime who may by even better. But it will still sting losing a Coral Gables commit to FSU.

Ohio_Cane

Since we lost yet another 4-Star local RB, I hope we are able to land Fils-Aime who may by even better. But it will still sting losing a Coral Gables commit to FSU.

Posted by: UMike | July 27, 2015 at 09:26 AM
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Just another kid who was never coming here, and I said it here when he committed. Committed to UM to gain hype, exposure, and notoriety.

UMike

Ohio..no matter what you think, or we think..it is yet another local 4-Star kid de-committing. If the staff knows it isnt legit then why accept the commit to start with? Just saying its a bad look when a kid from Coral Gables de-commits, especially when he will end up t FSU.

UMike

I do like that we picked up a Central kid...we really need to fight to keep other programs away from Central kids.

CaneRock

UMike...that's what you get in an industry that's fueled by a bunch of teenagers.

Sinistercane

Commit
Get more offers
Pray about it
Decommit
Rinse and repeat

Go Canes

That kid decommitting says more to me about Dalvin Cook's status than anything else.

Ohio_Cane

If the staff knows it isnt legit then why accept the commit to start with? Just saying its a bad look when a kid from Coral Gables de-commits, especially when he will end up t FSU.

Posted by: UMike | July 27, 2015 at 10:02 AM
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U know EXACTLY why they accepted the commitment. They'd accept a commit from a whale shark if they thought it'd give them good press for a while.

Ohio_Cane

No press is bad press, they always say.

UMike

Id much rather reject a kids commitment them have him commit then leave for our rival...imo anyway.

30CINCO

Not accepting a commitment from a local 4 star would just trigger a post from someone else. There will always be someone complaining.

UMike

Maybe...but at least when the dust settles the staff can say "I told you so"..rather than look bad losing another top local kid to its rival.

Lur-ker

Lol - reject a local 4-star commit and the same people will be howling to high heaven.

You just have to love this comedy.

The Dude

UMike,

At least now they can play victim with other recruits (hey we tried), whereas the other way around someone might say they done the kid wrong.

The Dude

What makes anyone say he was never coming anyways? Grades?

Go Canes

Is this real? Reject a local 4 Star kids commitment cause he may leave down the line?

Come on fellas.

CaneRock

If the staff knows it isnt legit then why accept the commit to start with?

Posted by: UMike | July 27, 2015 at 10:02 AM

Good point, which begs this question...Has Al Golden ever pulled a kid that had "smoke" around His commitment?

Go Canes

Yeah the lineman from Booker T. remember?

You guys had an absolute field day with that one.

Go Canes

The reality is we don't know and will never know who's offers actually get pulled because the kid can just turn around and say he's decommitting and no one can dispute it.

Ohio_Cane

UMike
Id much rather reject a kids commitment them have him commit then leave for our rival...imo anyway.

Posted by: UMike | July 27, 2015 at 11:09 AM
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There's 2 edges on that sword, especially for this staff. U know damn well if it got out that a 4* player tried to commit and we rejected that commit, the masses would be going nuts. Worse than they are about him decomitting.

CaneRock

Denver Kirkland never committed to UM.

Let me pose the question another way...Has Al Golden ever SIGNED a COMMIT, that had "smoke" around His COMMITMENT?

Go Canes

My past, present and future timeline for this scenario.


Kid loves FSU.
FSU shows little or no interest.
Miami offers, it sounds great so he commits.
Dalvin Cook is in trouble.
FSU comes around and tells him they are interested.
The kid decommits.
By December Dalvin Cook get through this mess.
FSU stops calling.
Kid wants back in, we have moved on but ask him to hold tight.
Kid gets anxious, ends up at Louisville.
Kid tells Canesport after much prayer he knew Miami was always his dream school but the coaches wouldn't take his commitment.
It's Golden's fault.

Lur-ker

U know damn well if it got out that a 4* player tried to commit and we rejected that commit, the masses would be going nuts. Worse than they are about him decomitting.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | July 27, 2015 at 11:44 AM

Exactly, and by the same people who are saying now we shouldn't have accepted his commitment. You just have shake your head and laugh.

CaneRock

NOOOOOOO!...I didn't ask you for a parody of a timeline, answer the question:

Has Al Golden ever SIGNED a COMMIT, that had "smoke" around His COMMITMENT?

CaneRock

Well since Lurker finds everything funny, maybe He can answer the question:

Has Al Golden ever SIGNED a COMMIT, that had "smoke" around His COMMITMENT?

Go Canes

Here's your first answer:

The reality is we don't know and will never know who's offers actually get pulled because the kid can just turn around and say he's decommitting and no one can dispute it.

Posted by: Go Canes | July 27, 2015 at 11:43 AM

The second one can't be answered because it doesn't make sense. If the kid indeed signs, then he's here.

Lur-ker

Rock, I don't even understand your question. I suppose that's a question that could only be answered by this coaching staff. I don't even see what your point is. Maybe you can elucidate.

CaneRock

Go Canes...let me help you out, think Patrick Petersen, Alex Collins, & Jordan Scarlett:

They committed to UM...they had "smoke" around their commitments...they signed elsewhere.

UMike

Lol - reject a local 4-star commit and the same people will be howling to high heaven.

You just have to love this comedy.

Posted by: Lur-ker | July 27, 2015 at 11:20 AM

This is exactly why stuff gets started here. I make a simple comment and then get this. Could of added something to the topic like an opinion of your own, but instead you have a smart ass comment.Got to love the stuff the homers get away with on the space.

UMike

Is this real? Reject a local 4 Star kids commitment cause he may leave down the line?

Come on fellas.

Posted by: Go Canes | July 27, 2015 at 11:36 AM

This is not what Im saying...IF...IF the staff knew he was ONLY committing to gain exposure then yes I think you reject it. Send a message to kids. Every kid has a chance of leaving...my point is if his intent was so well known, why take it?

CaneRock

UMike...since you coined the term "smoke", can you answer the question? And I'ma be fair, going back to Randy:

Has UM ever SIGNED a COMMIT, that had "smoke" around His COMMITMENT in the last 9 years?

UMike

Did I coin that phrase? lol

UMike

CR...not off the top of my head..usually the ones with the smoke you're referring to have flipped.

UMike

There was a little smoke around D. Jackson if I remember correctly. I dont remember any commits that stayed committed after their being a lot of smoke around them.

Lur-ker

Posted by: UMike | July 27, 2015 at 12:29 PM

Unless a person is just super sensitive, I just don't get this.

Sorry, but I do find it comical as all hell. Absolutely, if we didn't accept his commitment, I believe that all hell would be raised by the same people if we didn't accept his commitment. Funny as hell.

Just an opinion on how I see things.

UMike

My opinion is you're a douche..but I will move on and stick to ignoring anything you post.

CR..I cant think if any..maybe a few with a little smoke

The Dude

UMike, you're completely right. Some people come off as asses constantly.

CaneRock

UMike makes an ABSOLUTELY legitimate point. CFB recruiting is more street than science...and if the streets say the kid is just committing for show, then more than likely they're right. We rarely if ever get those kids, why offer?

Lur-ker

My opinion is you are super sensitive and insecure and immediately go into insult mode because you have poor impulse control and can't put two thoughts together when someone disagrees with you, without acting out, but I will move on now as well.

UMike

CR...my point was if this was so well known...if bloggers know it, I would assume the staff does..so if this was so widely known why put yourself out there to look like FSU's bitch? I know people like myself would normally be upset if we rejected a local 4-star, but at least the truth would come out (see Kirkland situation) rather than the only story being he flipped from Miami to FSU.

CaneRock

Their was "smoke" around Scarlett's commitment, do we get Cronkrite & Williams if we don't offer Scarlett?

In any event, if this staff didn't whiff the 2015 RB class, then this whole Rasul discussion would be moot...LMAO!

UMike

yay so glad!! Some people just need to be slapped!....

CR...would you rather piss some fans off temporarily until the truth comes out while sending a messaged to kids you arent going to use us...or let knowingly let a kid use you and then publicly show you out by flipping to your rival? A Coral Gables kid at that.

Go Canes

We signed the best of all the running backs that committed here in Mark Walton.

But I guess he is a whiff when compared to the lower ranked players we didn't get.

UMike

Go Canes...you're thinking he sees more PT at FSU cause the Cook situation?

Lur-ker

Making my point for me.

Impulse control lacking

UMike

I thought Walton and Scarlett were like 1A & 1B, but I'm always more biased to Dade players. But that was a hell of a player to lose out on...but having Walton is still a huge gain.

Go Canes

This whole not accepting a commitment from a 4 star kid, of course knowing NONE of the facts surrounding ANYTHING having to do with the situation is the absolute most ridiculous thing I've ever heard on here.

Now we have someone actually saying we maybe shouldn't have taken SCARLETT'S commitment last year!!

if there's ever been anything worthy of the LMAOs!!!!! we see here constantly, it's been the logic behind these posts.

UMike

Lurker..either talk to me at a game or stfu... you have ZERO to say to me. I wont say a single word back unless its in person.

UMike

Go Canes... im sure there's been way more ridiculous stuff on here lol...also my point is based on the notion EVERYONE knew this kid was using us to gain exposure.

CaneRock

Go Canes...I was referring to depth on the depth chart, not ability. But I agree, I like Walton, reminds me of Edge the more I watch em'.

Lur-ker

Impulse control.

You will need it the rest of your life. Start now.

I would be glad to meet you at a game, Mike. I have zero concerns. Nothing will happen, as you're implying would.

CaneRock

I'll tell you what's a LMAO! moment...Randy coming in here and pimp slappin' Golden's @$$ for Cronkrite & Scarlett...now that's funny.

LUH LUH...LAFFFFFFING MAO!

UMike

I honestly never thought Scarlett would stick.

Lur-ker

Randy's recruiting is a big LMFAO.

Had half the HS coaches in Dade hating him when he was here.

Biggest success was the NW year. You see where that got us. RS recruiting genius - now that IS funny.

UMike

I would also be surprised if Bruce sticks.

The Dude

This guy Lurker is a troll. Wish management would see it.

Go Canes

Unless you are one of about 5-10 teams in college football you don't turn down a commitment from a local standout kid, at a position of need, that you've already begun recruiting. Especially with the momentum your signing class has built.

What benefit could it possibly bring? Every kid in America is posting every single offer they get. Why? To gain exposure and hopefully more and better offers.

Who knows what happens behind closed doors or behind the scenes.

Two years ago we didn't offer enough. Last year we didn't offer fast enough. Now we are supposed to offer fast, offer often and then decide if the kid absolutely, positively will stick or at least know 100% what the motives are of a SEVENTEEN year old kid before accepting the commitment.

Where does it end with some of you?

Lur-ker

Also, Golden's recruiting is far from perfect. Before this year, from 2011-2013, he had an uphill battle because of the NCAA, now the poor W-L is hurting him.

Psi, as far as a recruiter, based on those circumstances, he's doing recruiting significantly better than the last 2 guys. But unless he wins this year it won't matter anyway.

UMike

Go Canes..I think you're looking way to far into this...dont lump me into the category lol...I agree 99% of time you do not reject a local 4-star kid...I 100% understand what you are saying. My point is IF THE STAFF KNEW....I mean everyone else knew right? Or maybe you ask the kid to keep his commitment silent until he was sure. Just saying if the staff knew...and thats the only way I would reject it, then I personally dont take it, send a message and deal with it later.

CaneRock

UMike...OF COURSE He wasn't gonna stick, not after seeing Golden go 6-7 with the all time leading rusher in UM history, who had over 2000 AP yards last year...OF COURSE NOT!

UMike

lol CR...I just never thought he would stick..Im surprised Bruce is still committed.

Lur-ker

Definition of a troll - the fan of another team who camps out on a board to stir it up:

http://www.neontommy.com/sites/default/files/USC%20fans.jpg?1286266284

Go Canes

Posted by: CaneRock | July 27, 2015 at 01:26 PM

It's comments like this that reiterate why you come across a someone simply trolling for conflict.

RCCF

Dade coaches Hated Randy because of weasel anyone that doesn't know that is SLOW ....
Randy Hate is 100% = Losing, and his Hate for Shapiro...Everyone Loves when the palms are greased and weasel greased alot of palms...

Ohio_Cane

Just saying if the staff knew...and thats the only way I would reject it, then I personally dont take it, send a message and deal with it later.

Posted by: UMike | July 27, 2015 at 01:26 PM
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If fans know, the staff knows. BUT, they CAN NOT reject his committment, no matter what they know. Because they also know, fans find out when they reject a commit. Most of the time, at least.

There are plenty of times where fans don't know why a kid wasn't recruited, commit accepted, etc. But we eventually find out.

Look at Travonte Valentine. We found out why he didn't commit to us. He was told he couldn't qualify at UM and that we wouldn't accept a commit from him, so he picked LSU, his other favorite.

RCCF

Sam Bruce not sticking is Hilarious...
U are better than that UMike...

UMike

Ohio..I agree with most of what you said. Just for me, if I knew what the kid was doing I would reject it and send a message to local kids, then "leak" the truth lol..

UMike

RCCF..I think a lot of people would agree. Especially since Scarlett didnt come here.

CaneRock


It's comments like this that reiterate why you come across a someone simply trolling for conflict.

Posted by: Go Canes | July 27, 2015 at 01:30 PM

If the truth hurts...wellllll.

RCCF

Agree that Bruce won't stick? Highly doubt that..

CaneRock

RCCF...you have info to the contrary in regards to Bruce?

WWIN

Aw hell! Do I need to signal the 4 Horsemen??? Lol

Ohio_Cane

Heat traded Shabazz Napier and cash to Orlando for................

A 2016 2nd round pick. Uhhh, wut? Did I miss something?

UMike

RCCF...I will be move than happy to be wrong..Bruce is a legit 5-Star kid imo...but I have never thought him or Scarlett would stick.

Sinistercane

Posted by: RCCF | July 27, 2015 at 01:30 PM

You posted awhile back about EA Sports bringing College football in 2016, where did you this info from?

UMike

Just dumping salary to avoid luxury tax..just did the same with Z. Dragic.

30CINCO

Where does it end with some of you?

Posted by: Go Canes | July 27, 2015 at 01:22 PM
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For most, NEVER ENDING!

CaneRock

Ohio_Cane...I think they traded em' to clear room for their 2nd Rd. pick also, Josh Richardson. Seems to me the Heat want more length in their backcourt, and JR provides that.

Sinistercane


It's Golden's fault.


Posted by: Go Canes | July 27, 2015 at 11:57 AM

Drop Mic

CaneRock

The problem with SOME people on here (ME INCLUDED), is they criticize POSTERS, instead of offering CONSTRUCTIVE CRITIQUE and counterpoints to a POST. And then they wanna get all combative when YOU give it to em' the way THEY give it to you.

Just giving my 2 pieces of copper on it.

TheeMackJones

The Golden loyalist act like recruiting is an EXACT science and what not. He!!, why even get all BENT about it. These kids commit and waver and decommit all the time.

In other words, their word is only worth GOLD when they actually sign a LOI. No pun intended.

TheeMackJones

Posted by: CaneRock | July 27, 2015 at 02:02 PM

I dig it when the Golden fan club becomes so ANNOYED, when some myopic, dense PHONY Hurricane fan criticizes the SAVIOR of Miami football. LOL

CaneRock

TMJ...I don't think anybody was trying to annoy anybody when the recruiting discussion began...at least it didn't start off that way.

TheeMackJones

" That this is Al Golden’s program, he actually planted those seeds that left the program after last year, and if they’re bad, it’s his responsibility. "
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And in my STUPID sort of way, I POINTED out that those starting Seniors and Juniors last season were ALL chosen by Golden and D'Onofrio.

Don't U just love it when an ' educated ' former University of Miami, Florida alumnus opines the obvious. LOL

But then again, that VISHNU is probably a Golden HATER.

CaneRock

BACK IN BLUE BABY! YEAH!

Go Canes

https://twitter.com/TomGarfinkel/status/625667585468669956/photo/1

Ohio_Cane

Sam Bruce has been saying and doing all the "right things" concerning his UM committment. Will he stick? No one knows, tbh.

From how he speaks about UM and his commitment, I'd be shocked if he spurned UM. On the flip-side, lots of kids recently have said how committed they were to a school, only to end up elsewhere. So, I guess I'm in the middle regarding Bruce.

Ohio_Cane

One elite player I'll say I'm NOT worried about, is Shaq Quarterman. That kid is all UM. Something drastic would have to happen for him to leave his commitment to UM.

Ohio_Cane

And what not.

SinisterCane

GO CANEZ

SinisterCane

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | July 27, 2015 at 02:40 PM

Would he stay if Golden is fired

Terrance Sullivan

Sun Life is coming along nicely.

CaneRock

Ohio_Cane...all I'll say is it's still a loooooong way, to a looooooong season, to a loooooong run up to NSD.

Ohio_Cane

Would he stay if Golden is fired

Posted by: SinisterCane | July 27, 2015 at 02:42 PM
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His dad has said multiple times that he is committed to the university, not the coach. Though he did also state they would need to meet with the new HC and position coach to see they're plan for him and his future.

Ohio_Cane

Their* plan. I'm a stickler lol

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