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July 21, 2015

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Posted by: Sinistercane | July 23, 2015 at 08:34 AM

Yep.

We'll stumble against Clemson and either GT or FSU.

And that's it.

UMike

Go Canes...remember how positive you were about that last year also lol

Go Canes

Yep and after that tough, tough loss at Tech we proceeded to wallop Duke, Cincy, UNC, Va Tech and for most of the game FSU.

Golden lost his team after that, which is inexcusable. But I see a better, more mature team coming this year, being led by the player at the most important position, QB.

Sinistercane


Yep.

We'll stumble against Clemson and either GT or FSU.

And that's it.

Posted by: Go Canes | July 23, 2015 at 08:58 AM


I have GT and UVA:( taking us down

The Dude

Can Al even coach a W vs Nebraska?

Gin & Tonic (with a twist of lime and what not)

FWIW ESPN FPI index projecting Miami W-L is 7.5-4.7.

Following is the projected win percentage against each opponent:

9-5 v. BCU 99.3%
9-11 @. FAU 87.3%
9-19 v. NEB 65.5%
10-1 @. CIN 57.9%
10-10 @. FSU 35.2%
10-17 V. V-TECH 54.7%
10/24 V. CLEM 46.9%
10/31 @. DUKE 63.4%
11/07 V. UVA 80.6%
11/14 @. UNC 44.8%
11/21 V. G-TECH 52.5%
11/27 @. PITT 51.9%

Breakdown
60% chance or greater in 5 games.
50% chance or greater in 4 games.
50% chance or less in in 3 games.

Win the 5 60 % games split the 4 50% games win one underdog game = 8-4.

TonyCane

Baylor is a bit of an outlier. Brides might be the best coach in college football. He's better than Saban.

1mg of Epi

^^ Assuming both coordinators have learned some lessons from the past few years Im going with 10-2, 10-1 if we get a few breaks.

If we haven't learned from past mistakes 5-7 maybe 6-6.

Demons

Epi and 30 cinco that was great reading , healthy options , without name calling, and not sounding like you guys know it all that end all.

Demons

I don't hate on the believers who hope all is well , or others like me who knows the sky is falling , lol, when it comes to Canes ball , if Golden turns it around and say we go 10-2 or anywhere in that stratosphere us sky fallers will still scrutinized how he got there , and the believers will say we told you so , ,if if , if he doesn't and 6-6 or 7-5 , the believers will still say we respect the program and who runs it , respect is good , but , its the CANES we are talking about fellas,i am over 50 and still wearing orange and green , I am like if we fail I'll watch football but I could care less until national signing day again.

1mg of Epi

Demons
Epi and 30 cinco that was great reading , healthy options , without name calling, and not sounding like you guys know it all that end all.

Posted by: Demons | July 23, 2015 at 01:18 PM

So it wasn't obvious that both of our posts were dripping with sarcasm? Lol

herbieibis

Ain't much we could of done different offensively against GT, when we only had the ball 19 min.

1mg of Epi

^^^ Thats a good point. Would you put that on player execution or play calling?

Go Canes

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Go Canes

Can't wait to see ALL CAPS react to this one. I'm sure he'll call it a bunch of mumble jumbo.

And what not.

herbieibis

Golden has shown The Herb nothing in 4 years. Why should I have faith in him? There has been no consistency in his coaching and that has been passed down to a majority of his players. Great, we had some players get drafted high, all that got us was 6 lousy wins and azz whuppings from the likes of Pitt and Virg. Hanging onto hope is one thing, banging your head against the wall is another. Recruiting hasn't been half bad but we have lost 2 many guys down the stretch, that sure would of put us over the top.
Then there is DENO, aside from Perryman, all those other upper draft choices were from the offense. Depth of talent, on that side of the ball is a major issue, plus a few to many reaches just to fill spots. We can put a pretty good 11 on the field but what happens at LB, if we get a few hurt? What happens in the secondary, if the same scenario happens? I believe the line play should be better but we still haven't shown that we can get to the QB and be disruptive.
Still to many questions 4 years later and still not to many answers to our problems. The teams that like to run the ball, ran on us last year and the ones that liked to pass it, did so. We were statistically better but that was one paper. Show me something one the field, that will make me a believer. I believe that every time we take the field this year we will have a chance but when was the last time we all felt that it didn't matter who we played we were going to win and if we did lose it was a total shock?

30CINCO

Ain't much we could of done different offensively against GT, when we only had the ball 19 min.

Posted by: herbieibis | July 23, 2015 at 02:07 PM
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Scoring more and having a better 3rd down conversion rate would have probably helped

1mg of Epi

If we want to look at where our problems really stem from, consider this:

SMU head coach salary: $2mil
UM head coach salary: $2.2mil

We haters can sit here and yell all day about Al, but who do we think will take his place? in reality unless the admin decides to fully support this program, the next hire will be just another loser in a parade of losers masquerading as coaches.

trianglecane


Susan Miller Degnan ✔ @smillerdegnan

Not a single @CanesFootball player got on the Preseason All-ACC Football Team.

Here is the link to the voting:

https://accsports.com/2015-all-acc-preseason-football-team-announced/

Demons

Epi with you guys I read past the sarcasm ,because I know your hearts are in the right place I think.

Lur-ker

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | July 23, 2015 at 02:47 PM

Therein lies the danger in a sample size of 1. How can you take one example and then use that to claim it shows a lack of support.

You might want to check correlation between salary and performance, because other than Saban, and 2 or 3 others, there are plenty of examples of coaches who make significantly more and have similar or worse results.

And anyone that thinks we'll ever be a top 5 in salary doesn't understand finances and doesn't understand the U, or things like comparative football revenue.

USAFCane

As long as I can remember Canes never got love in the all USA/conference teams. Having said that, what did the Clemson QB do with a supposedly better team than Kaaya last year. Even worse the UNC and GT QBs got more votes.

If they were all drafted today, which QB goes 1st?

What a farce this is.

trianglecane

The Canes are getting dirt kicked in their face...6-7 will do that to you. I think Brad is the best qb in the league even without my MIAMI goggles on.

TonyCane

In other news, at a Kas Vegas basketball tournament with my sons team. Watching another game and Coach K from Duke is scouting it.

The Dude

Kaaya has Andrew Luck type ability. Just watch the FSU game, dude was dealing. Al will find a way to lose 4 games next year because he's just a really bad HC. The last time we saw the team, Al had lost them losing to Pitt and UVA,(death spiral). To get to 10-2 Al has to win the team back, hopefully he can do that leading through Brad. An early loss to a team like Nebraska and the whole season can spiral out of control in a hurry, just like last year. Al has a track record now, and it isn't good. He is what his record says he is. There's very little reason to believe that Al knows what he's doing on gameday. We'll see if 2015 can push a square peg through a round hole.

WWIN

Soup... I'm in yo neck of da woods where you at?????

The Dude

^^^ Ruh roh!!! Time to talk contracts!!!

Lur-ker

Look, I think Kaaya is great.

But Andrew Luck ability? No.

First of all, a Luck is much bigger, stronger, faster and is overall a better athlete. Much stronger arm. He can take shots like Kaaya can't, at least not now. Have you seen how thick Luck is? Boy can run. Not Russell Wilson fast/quick, but powerfully.

If you want to compare Kaaya to a current pro, Matt Ryan comes more to mind. Similar body types, similar arms, similar ball velocity. Kaaya has to learn to use his legs better, had to learn to roll out more fluidly.

Don't get me wrong, this is not a criticism of him, but just realizing that he still has a ways to go to be compared to great college/pro quarterbacks

Ohio_Cane

You're all nuts. We're going 16-0. Come get some! Go Canes!

WWIN

^^^ Ruh roh!!! Time to talk contracts!!!

Posted by: The Dude | July 23, 2015 at 04:06 PM

Damn straight it is!

Gin & Tonic (with a twist of lime and what not)

Posted by: The Dude | July 23, 2015 at 03:46 PM

Another thing that Kaaya and Luck have in common:
Chance of playing in ACC title game this year = 0%.

TonyCane

Kayaa is by far the best quarterback we've had in a long time. We've gotten used to unspectacular QB play, and we tend to judge our chances thinking of what Morris, Harris, Wright, Marve, and Freeman were producing.

I'm hoping for the same jump from year one to year two for Kayaa that Dorsey had.

1mg of Epi

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | July 23, 2015 at 02:47 PM

Therein lies the danger in a sample size of 1. How can you take one example and then use that to claim it shows a lack of support.

You might want to check correlation between salary and performance, because other than Saban, and 2 or 3 others, there are plenty of examples of coaches who make significantly more and have similar or worse results.

And anyone that thinks we'll ever be a top 5 in salary doesn't understand finances and doesn't understand the U, or things like comparative football revenue.

Posted by: Lur-ker | July 23, 2015 at 03:24 PM

The danger of a sample size of 1? I think you mistook my off-hand comment for an in depth analysis. If you want to dive into the subject a little deeper, here ya go....

Al Golden has the 42nd highest salary in college football. Where do recent championship coaches rank? Nick Saban is 1, urban Meyer comes in at 6 and our old friend Jimbo Fisher holds the #14 spot. Some other coaches in the top ten without full trophy cases include Kurt Ferentz and James Franklin, at numbers 9 and 8 respectively. Other coaches residing in the same salary neighborhood as Al. mike London, Gary Anderson and jerry Kill.

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/

If you look at the list it's fairly obvious that while hiring coaches who demand large salaries won't guarantee success on the field, coaches who don't command big bucks will most likely deliver exactly what you're paying for.

I'm not quite sure if you're point is that our administration provides support necessary to win ships, but I don't think that argument can really be made. Our facilities, or lack thereof, has been a well documented problem. Remember, we're talking about a program who until just last week didn't even have lights on our practice field. Our hiring decisions have revolved around money rather than potential resulting in sub par assistants in far too many cases.

I could go on, but you get the point. Nobody expects the U to shell out top 5 dollars for a coach, it's just not possible for a small private school. That being said, the fact remains... When it comes to coaches, one gets what one pays for.

The Dude

Kaaya is about the same as Luck in terms of where Luck was at a similar age.

laquinton

I would rather "pony" up and get SMU'S head coach. That guy can create an attacking exciting offense! Would even keep D'No... actually nah. He's had to go still.

CaneRock

Pump the brakes on Kaaya. The kid has less comeback wins when down at halftime than His HEAD COACH! STOP IT!...PLEASE!

#LETBRADLEYBEBRADLEY

herbieibis

Making excuses about the cabbage a coach makes, is nonsense. It's about getting guys to play for U and getting results on the field. You think the players are thinking about what Golden makes when they take the field? We were a small school in the 80's and 90's and not paying coaches squat and we are still a small school, and over paying an excuse maker and to gutless to fire a useless coordinator, named DENO! Art Briles at Baylor is a good example of how do the most with less.

Lur-ker


Kaaya is about the same as Luck in terms of where Luck was at a similar age.

Posted by: The Dude | July 23, 2015 at 04:44 PM

Dozens of QB's RIGHT NOW are where Luck was at a similar age. He redshirted his freshman year and started as a redshirt freshman (academic sophomore - same as Kaaya)

Again, love Kayaa. But comparisons to Luck, both physically and results wise, are way off and premature. We're going in to the season with a potentially darn good QB, but not with an Andrew Luck.

I think Kayaa could end up being the top or a top 3 QB at the U when its all said and done. But before I put him up in the Luck stratosphere, I'd like to see about 2 more years worth of snaps.

The Luck comparison is way way premature from a results standpoint. From a physical standpoint, they're two totally different QBs, as I said before.

Lur-ker

Again, epi, not sure if you actually get the financial situation at Miami in terms of revenue generated in comparison to other schools or the history of Miami football in relation to the school, revenue, and support.

That's where it all starts.

Are there areas where improvement is needed. Absolutely yes.

But there is now even more support than even during the championship years. Much more.

Golden is getting about what he should get. You can't pay anybody much less than that, and he hasn't earned any big raises yet.

For arguments sake, let's say he's gone after this season, we will not be getting a coach that's in the top 15 in terms of salary, but we might pay more than Golden's getting now. Maybe up to 3million? Depending on the coach.

As far as the lights, not a great argument. Yes they are overdue, but again, it's a revenue and contributor issue and has less to do with administration support.

The next thing we need is an indoor practice facility. If I'm not mistaken that's in the low double digits of millions, around $10 mil.

Feel free to contribute, please.

TonyCane

Art Briles is the best example. Excellent HC.

The Dude

The kid has Andrew Luck type ability.

The Dude

Could be the first pick in the draft.

30CINCO

Based on build, height, lack of mobility, similar looking footwork, Kaaya reminds me more in the Manning mold.

The Dude

Brad has future face of franchise written all over him. Kid is business. Well done by Al and Coley recognizing this kid early in the process and getting him in at Miami. It's things like this that Al deserves credit for. Like a lot. That said, he hasn't won enough.

The Dude

I can see that too Cinco. My point wasn't who he reminds me of as a player, but what his ceiling is if he works his ass of and is coached up properly. Kid has ELITE talent.

The Dude

He actually reminds me of Tom Brady in height and weight. His arm is more live than Brady's at the same age. Matt Ryan is a good comparison also in terms of who they look like, but again, not really my point.

Go Canes

My daughter started SAT classes with a tutor at the U last week. I'm sitting in my car in the parking garage on Ponce right now waiting for her to finish, looking over the new practice field and lights.

Looks amazing.

Better days ahead, no matter what. Facilities no longer a joke nationally, stadium will be state of the art and a maturing team.

Can't wait til September.

mountain cane

The ESPN win index at 7.5 is sure interesting vs the Vegas over/under Canes # of 5.5.

Given a pure gimme (Bethune) and a near gimme (FAU), Vegas doesn't think much of our prospects.

The ESPN %s by game seem reasonable and do in fact add up to 7.5. Vegas must factor in our inability to come back along with last years tailspin.

Until Al & Co show us something on the field it is hard to be an optimist. If you are one of the guys spouting off 10-2 etc, you really should take Vegas up on the 5.5 over.

The Dude

Mountain,

The over/under is one thing, what are the odds?

The Dude

How much do I have to gamble to make $100 on the bet is the real question.

30CINCO

you really should take Vegas up on the 5.5 over.

Posted by: mountain cane | July 23, 2015 at 06:18 PM
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Never really gambled online but am actually interested in taking this.

Do you or anyone know of legit places online that is "safe" or ok to use that has this line?

Go Canes

mountain cane | July 23, 2015 at 06:18 PM

I already have and will again when I'm in Vegas.

Vegas doesn't predict wins, they predict even action.

mountain cane

Go Canes, of course. Don't you think over time there is a high correlation?

CaneRock

Kaaya =s Gino.

CaneRock

I say JJ houses 2 or 3 this year.

Lur-ker

Jaquan?

30CINCO

Something I didn't know about the renovation, gonna be SWEET once done!:

Dolphins: When dust settles, Sun Life Stadium will be ready for regular season

"Then in 2017, the parking lots will be redone, with tunnels and bridges planned to help keep the pedestrian traffic away from the vehicular."

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article28432213.html#storylink=cpy

1mg of Epi

Posted by: Lur-ker | July 23, 2015 at 05:47 PM

You need to work on your reading comprehension.

KYcane

^^^ Ruh roh!!! Time to talk contracts!!!

Posted by: The Dude | July 23, 2015 at 04:06 PM

Damn straight it is!

Posted by: WWIN | July 23, 2015 at 04:36 PM

He's here to collect "our" buyout

KYcane

WWIN

You close to Orlando for long?

Go Canes

@HeraldSports: UM quarterback Brad Kaaya named to Manning Award Watch List: http://t.co/pS7TKeMpZw http://t.co/dlgU3oixDY

Ohio_Cane

Ugh, another shooting at a movie theater. Prayers to all involved. Except the shooter. May he/she rot in hell.

Go Canes

@HeraldSports: UM quarterback Brad Kaaya named to Manning Award Watch List: http://t.co/pS7TKeMpZw http://t.co/dlgU3oixDY

Go Canes

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And Joseph Yearby put on some serious muscle:

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Go Canes

@flasportsbuzz: My conversation with UM A.D. Blake James about his expectations for the football program and Al Golden's future: http://t.co/fNxH8WhKtU

Terrance Sullivan

Good stuff Go Canes!

86Cane

Win the 5 60 % games split the 4 50% games win one underdog game = 8-4.

Posted by: Gin & Tonic (with a twist of lime and what not) | July 23, 2015 at 11:17 AM

Who cares about the record, what I care about is the tag name on the comment:

"With a twist of lime and what not!"

86Cane

Epi and 30 cinco that was great reading , healthy options , without name calling, and not sounding like you guys know it all that end all.

Posted by: Demons | July 23, 2015 at 01:18 PM

Well done, the Canespace way.

86Cane

Soup... I'm in yo neck of da woods where you at?????

Posted by: WWIN | July 23, 2015 at 03:50 PM

DUDE!

How about a heads up when U are coming? What is your sched tomorrow? I can meet in Orlando or what not?

86Cane

Ruh roh!!! Time to talk contracts!!!

Posted by: The Dude | July 23, 2015 at 04:06 PM

Damn straight it is!

Posted by: WWIN | July 23, 2015 at 04:36 PM

He's here to collect "our" buyout

Posted by: KYcane | July 23, 2015 at 08:03 PM

Oh hell, now I gotta go to da bank and get me some more Benjamins?

#Sheesh

The Dude

Stop killing eachother. For fuck's sake stop it.

86Cane

#AMEN

WWIN

Posted by: 86Cane | July 23, 2015 at 10:40 PM

Dammit! Now I'm in Atlanta now... but I been in Orlando since last Thursday

Go Canes

@mattyports: No Hurricanes made preseason All-ACC, for the second time ever:
https://t.co/ooYmBK3z4h http://t.co/Go5pXVKTDE

SinisterCane

Blake James interview 7-23-15

FRIDAY BUZZ COLUMN

One thing that was made clear this week: Unlike Las Vegas odds-makers and some national college football reporters, the UM administration does not consider this a rebuilding year, a year when another mediocre season can be written off or excused.

With questions swirling about Al Golden’s job security beyond this season, make no mistake: The expectations from the top of UM's athletic department are much higher than they are nationally.

In fact, athletic director Blake James said he believes UM has enough talent to compete for the ACC's Coastal Division title this season.

“Al understands expectations of the program,” James said in a conversation this week inside the lobby in the Pinehurst (N.C.) Resort, where the ACC was holding its annual media event.

“Our conversation [this offseason] was [that] I expect us to be a winning program," James said. "He understands those expectations and I’m confident he will get us in position to win Coastal championships, win ACC championships and ultimately win national championships.

“Let’s start with winning the Coastal. That’s something we need to do. If you win the ACC, I’ve always said, you've got a great chance of winning the national championship in any sport…. Let’s go out and win the Coastal because I would feel very good about where we are nationally.”

I asked James what he tells donors and fans who ask what Golden must do to remain the coach beyond this year.

Here was James’ answer: “Al wants to win. I want to win. Our donors, our fans, our friends want to win. Anyone who has an affinity to the University of Miami wants to see us win.

“Al knows he needs to win. Our guys know we need to win. I know we need to win. I’m confident they are taking the steps they need to take to go out and take care of business this year.”

James’ vision for the program includes this: “I believe as we continue to get young men coming into our program that are elite players, we are going to see that return where’s it not rebuilding, it’s reloading. We are going to see that year after year. There is just so much talent not only in South Florida but in the state of Florida.

“The University of Miami has such a strong national brand, that we will continue to get players like Brad Kaaya out of California and throughout the country, like we’ve done historically. I do think, and people don’t always like to hear this, that there was that void when we were under the NCAA cloud. We’ve moved beyond that.

“When I look at all the names I’m signing [National Letters of Intents] for, I know our program is going in the right direction because we’re in conversations with all the elite players.”

Why does James expect more this season than what oddsmakers predict (UM’s over/under for wins in Vegas is 5.5 or 6)?

“I like the guys that we have coming back,” James said. “You have a great leader and quarterback in Brad Kaaya. I think we are going to see our defense continue to get better. I just think we’re going to be a better team overall. I don’t get caught up in what the media thinks or what Vegas thinks.

“The [UM players and coaches] are doing the things in the offseason that they need to do to put themselves in position to win. We didn’t execute at the level we thought we should have or could have in a lot of games last year. With that, you end up at a 6-7. If you execute to the level I think we can, we can have a lot of success.”

So is it reasonable to expect a 9- or 10-win season?

“I don’t get into looking at numbers but what I do expect to see is us executing at a higher level and performing at a higher level and going out and winning games,” James said.

“At the end of the year, we’ll look at the whole picture. You go into the season not looking to win 9 or 10 games. You go into the season looking to win every game. I hope and expect that for all of our coaches. I don’t want any one of our coaches or student athletes saying we are going to lose these four or three or two games or whatever. Let’s go win every game.”

Golden's contract runs through Feb. 1, 2020.

Incidentally, James, who has done great work upgrading facilities, said lights were installed on the practice field this week (costing about $500,000). He wants an indoor practice facility but UM needs a big donation (“a naming-type gift”) to finance it.

“Without that, it can’t become a reality,” he said. “….My goal is to go through the needs we have and scratch as many as you can off the list.”

CHATTER

### Regarding UM’s non-conference scheduling, “Al and I have talked about that,” James said. “We need to play a big game [every year]. This year, it’s Nebraska.” It’s Notre Dame in 2016 and 2017 and LSU in Arlington, Tx., in 2018 and Michigan State in 2020 and 2021.

“Big game every year and then we need to have a competitive one,” James said. “Cincinnati [which hosts UM Oct. 1] is going to be a very strong team in the American Athletic Conference this year. You could [supplement] that with Bethune Cookman. I believe in helping those programs out. I’d like us to continue to play FIU and Florida Atlantic.”

Also booked for future games: Arkansas State, Toledo and Rutgers.

thirstybuzzardcane


Also booked for future games: Arkansas State, Toledo and Rutgers.

Posted by: SinisterCane | July 24, 2015 at 08:52 AM


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What?!?!?! No Jacksonville State!!!!!

thirstybuzzardcane

He wants an indoor practice facility but UM needs a big donation (“a naming-type gift”) to finance it.

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Soup?!?!?!?!?!

thirstybuzzardcane

I would like to see us put UCF on our schedule. I really enjoyed going to Orlando when we played them. The tailgating was amazing there!!!....Oh yeah, the scenery wasn't to shabby either!!

Ohio_Cane

Miami is ranked No.1 as most improved team in Phil Steele's CFB Preview.

https://twitter.com/ESPNCFB/status/624283060859748352

SinisterCane

IMHO I believe Donna kept James from Firing Golden

Go Canes

IMHO there was never a time where he was going to be fired.

Gin & Tonic (with a twist of lime and what not)

IMHO is not as good as IHOP

86Cane

He wants an indoor practice facility but UM needs a big donation (“a naming-type gift”) to finance it.

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Soup?!?!?!?!?!

Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | July 24, 2015 at 09:10 AM

I GOT THIS!

86Cane

I would like to see us put UCF on our schedule. I really enjoyed going to Orlando when we played them. The tailgating was amazing there!!!....Oh yeah, the scenery wasn't to shabby either!!

Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | July 24, 2015 at 09:14 AM

Yes, yes and...YES!!!

86Cane

And what not.

Lur-ker

He wants an indoor practice facility but UM needs a big donation (“a naming-type gift”) to finance it.

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Soup?!?!?!?!?!

Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | July 24, 2015 at 09:10 AM

See how that works? Donations! We don't have nearly the number of donors and the amount per donor as other big schools. I bet we fall outside of the top 40 in terms of athletic donations. So people that say the administration doesn't support the program should be saying it's the fan/donor base.

Personally, I think it's a combination of a smaller fan base plus a small alumni base compared to other schools. Miami is unique in terms of size and support base.

1mg of Epi

I would like to see us put UCF on our schedule. I really enjoyed going to Orlando when we played them. The tailgating was amazing there!!!....Oh yeah, the scenery wasn't to shabby either!!

Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | July 24, 2015 at 09:14 AM

I love when we play big out of conference games, but I hate when we play usf/ucf and even fau. We have nothing to gain by beating them, yet any loss to those schools is just bad on so many levels. I would probably feel differently if our circumstances Improve.

thirstybuzzardcane

^^^^^UCF is not that bad of a team!

1mg of Epi

They're not that bad, but they're recruiting in the same areas and beating us helps elevate them from little brother status.

Go Canes

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1mg of Epi

Personally, I think it's a combination of a smaller fan base plus a small alumni base compared to other schools. Miami is unique in terms of size and support base.

Posted by: Lur-ker | July 24, 2015 at 10:47 AM

The bulk of most programs funding these days comes from bowl games with revenue sharing, the playoffs and TV deals. Playoff money is split amongst the conferences to the tune of hundreds of millions. The TV money is up there as well.

Individual donors isn't chump change, but the field is more level than we think. This Adidas deal has helped the U considerably. We aren't as poor as one might assume.

That being said, we still aren't opening up the coffers for the football team.

Last year I posted a dissertation about this complete with references.!

1mg of Epi

Factoring in expenses as estimated by Forbes I believe, U football isn't exactly a money pit, with revenue available to make the moves that's many of us here would like to see. I think outside factors, like Uhealth, have played a role in how well funded the team is.

CaneRock

@ThomasGoldkamp
BREAKING: #Gators DT Jay-nard Bostwick granted transfer release, allowing schools contact - 247Sports

Terrance Sullivan

LOL it is a Athletic Program just not one team.

CaneRock

Also, Avery Johnson transferred to Cincy, and Jordan Cunningham transferred to UNC.

Terrance Sullivan

It's also isn't flush with cash either LOL. The University Of Miami Athletic Program is doing good financially. It's not doing horrible but damn sure isn't doing excellent.

UMike

In about an hour I will leave work and walk a block over to watch the funeral procession of Marine Staff Sgt. Wyatt. I think it speaks volumes to the courage of our community that his family and our city approved the route which will take the procession along the SAME road the killer traveled and directly past the shooting site. One last act of courage, a way to say we are not scared and you will not win. #noogstrong!!

Lur-ker

The bulk of most programs funding these days comes from bowl games with revenue sharing, the playoffs and TV deals. Playoff money is split amongst the conferences to the tune of hundreds of millions. The TV money is up there as well.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Most schools make very little money, break even or lose money on bowls (source: Forbes)

Playoff money is only split among participants (4)

Conferences do split TV money and other revenues. That's a given. That's a floor amount. There's a huge difference between schools when other sources of revenue are taken into account.

Look at the total revenue numbers by athletic departments. Miami is barely top 50. The top 25 teams double and some almost triple Miami's revenue numbers.

The facts just don't back up your statement about an equal or near equal playing field. It's not even close.

Throw in not great donor support and there you have it.

Again to throw this at lack of administrative support is just not looking at the facts objectively.

There is room to criticize about administrative support, but it has nothing to do with lack of financial support.

CaneRock

Football and basketball (Mens) make money, but because of the non-revenue sports, UM has to subsidize the athletic dept. by millions a year...at least that's what I gleaned from the last figures I saw.

And as far at the IPF, unless they're doing it already...why not just get a loan for a portion of it, and raise the rest?

Go Canes

We aren't, have never been and will never be in the same STRATOSPHERE as some of the big time programs.

And I mean never.

Ever.

Ever.


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