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July 13, 2015

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SinisterCane

1st?

thirstybuzzardcane

Pow!!!! 2nd

CaneRock

Go Justin! Now if He can stretch some more yards on those KOs, we might me alright.

Terrance Sullivan

Yes Sir Rock.

VfB_Cane

Let's hope he'll get to kick off very often and rarely needs to punt.

WWIN

Dalvin Cook you shoulda came to Da U!!!

VfB_Cane

If you guys can't see the future is bright, with or without Golden, then you're not paying attention to everything going on at the U.

Posted by: Lur-ker | July 13, 2015 at 09:54 AM

The thing is, most of us were convinced the future was bright prior to each of the last 10 seasons. So next season can go either way; nobody knows at this point.

VfB_Cane

Dalvin Cook you shoulda came to Da U!!!
Posted by: WWIN | July 13, 2015 at 12:13 PM

To make us forget about Willie Williams?

Go Canes

Vfb the difference between those years and now is that regardless of who the coach is, we won't be in cavernous Sun Life anymore. Instead we'll be in a smaller, state of the art facility.

We also aren't hopelessly behind in facilities compared to most programs anymore. For the first time ever this administration is making serious investment in all its sports programs and facilities, fixing slowly but surely their greatest failure as leaders.

And finally, whoever is coach next year will have the deepest, best conditioned and most talented roster the U has fielded in a decade.

People like to talk tailspins and spirals. But the reality is there are many, many programs that have had no NCAA issues, complete investment by its administration and excellent recruiting and still haven't won. They just can't see winning is harder now than its ever been, especially when you're one of the smallest private schools in big time football.

IMO our time is here.

Lur-ker

The truth is the truth.

Who has more money and better facilities than Texas? Answer: nobody, not even the top SEC schools.

They have the most and the best of everything INCLUDING one of the most fertile recruiting bases anywhere in the country. Plus no sanctions, no impediments, nothing. A big wad of greenbacks to hire the best and brightest.

While we have been trying to play catchup with division 2 facilities and budgets.

All that is improving drastically. Our facilities are catching up. No they won't be as opulent as Texas or Oregon, but they will be brought up to the modern age.

We're recruiting much better, have better conditioned athletes, finally have a training table and are making our athletic facilities very attractive. We still have the beautiful campus in the unequaled location.

We will be playing winning, championship football with or without Golden in the near future. I firmly believe that.

1mg of Epi

When the Miami Hurricanes go 6-7, it's a death spiral. At least it used to be until trolls started lowering expectations.

Posted by: The Dude | July 11, 2015 at 08:43 PM

And we are being picked to finish near the bottom of the coastal, with Vegas laughing at us.

Everything you've said is correct Dude. Being a fan doesn't mean you have to ignore reality.

CaneRock

"Whoever is coach next year"..."with or without Golden"...IOWs, they've given up.

Old Skool

There's not much to do but look at and take pictures of Mt. Rushmore. You can watch movies in the visitors center of how it came to be, however that doesn't mean there's nothing else to do in that part of SD. The Crazy Horse memorial is actually pretty cool to visit, especially if you're there when people can go out on the arm. Custer State Park is neat. The annual buffalo round up can be spectacular as is a visit to the Badlands. There's some decent eats in Rapid City as well as pheasant hunting and trout fishing.

Go Canes

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | July 13, 2015 at 01:20 PM


And last year preseason Oklahoma, Auburn, South Carolina, Stanford, USC, Texas A&M, UNC and Notre Dame were preseason Top 20.

Final loss numbers?

OU 5
Auburn 5
South Carolina 6
Stanford 5
USC 4
TAMU 5
UNC 7
Notre Dame 5

Are those programs in a death spiral?

Nope. Just us I'm sure.

CaneRock

8 for His last 20 =s tailspin.

SinisterCane

#Downward spiral?? lol

SinisterCane

Are those programs in a death spiral?

Nope. Just us I'm sure.


Posted by: Go Canes | July 13, 2015 at 02:12 PM

To answer your question NO, not sure of UNC but everybody on that list has enjoyed success over the past for 4 yrs, bowls win signature wins etc. while hasn't won a bowl game while at Miami

Demons

Dude , also there is Sturgis , where the girls go naked with body paint , the Hawaiian tropic girls walking around , there is devil tower, in Wyoming , and like old skool said Custer park , but back to Sturgis , my son stood on a corner across from where the Budweiser girls were pouring beer for two straight hours with the darkest sunglasses , well unless the wife is with you .

Demons

Dude , second week in August for Sturgis.

Lur-ker

It's just the same cast of characters, spewing the same constant negativity, and trying to get everybody to join the we're screwed forever club.

Be miserable, most of you guys have never even been to a game, or rarely go, so who cares.

SinisterCane

It's just the same cast of characters, spewing the same constant negativity, and trying to get everybody to join the we're screwed forever club.

Be miserable, most of you guys have never even been to a game, or rarely go, so who cares.

Posted by: Lur-ker | July 13, 2015 at 04:01 PM


Please don't confuse wanting the team to win with being miserable, this is the second time you hurled that in direction when I was responding to someone else. I've learned in life those who judge others are guilty of the same shit.

CaneRock

Calling people miserable and non-game goers, doesn't change the fact we're in a tail spin...and Al Golden's the pilot.

Lur-ker

Go to a game, guys.

I'm buying.

The Dude

Thanks Old Skool and Demons! Much appreciated.

SinisterCane

What game you paying for you miserable ****

jk Lurker

#PassiveAggressive

The Dude

I think you are confusing what I was saying. I already tried to clarify but here we go again. The University is doing A-O-K. Al Golden's career at Miami is in a death spiral. He's firmly on the hot seat. Last season, he completely lost the team, he has not shown that he has one them back, 6-7 is a fireable offense. Don't confuse my comments about the coach and think I meant them about Miami the school and what they are trying to accomplish. Now that I've typed that, go ahead and twist it up to make whatever point you need to make to defend Al.

Lur-ker

Nah, you said WE'RE in a death spiral. But if you want to amend that, that's fine, because we're not in a death spiral.

By the way neither is Al Golden. Last year is over. If this year goes poorly, the yes, HE'S in a real bad way. Real bad.

But I'm letting it play out.

Lur-ker

What game you want?

1mg of Epi

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | July 13, 2015 at 01:20 PM


And last year preseason Oklahoma, Auburn, South Carolina, Stanford, USC, Texas A&M, UNC and Notre Dame were preseason Top 20.

Final loss numbers?

OU 5
Auburn 5
South Carolina 6
Stanford 5
USC 4
TAMU 5
UNC 7
Notre Dame 5

Are those programs in a death spiral?

Nope. Just us I'm sure.
Posted by: Go Canes | July 13, 2015 at 02:12 PM

You're comparing us to a group of teams that have played for and/or won ships, bowl games conference championships etc in recent memory?
Ok.

Go Canes

No I'm comparing us to teams who failed last year.

Any comparisons before then make no sense.

CaneRock

USC didn't fail, they won 9 games under REAL sanctions, playing with less than 50 scholarship players at times.

Go Canes

Lord now the nearly three years being persecuted by that scumbag Emmert weren't "real" enough.

Go Canes

How could this affect recruiting??


NCAA president says death penalty on table for Miami
By Lenn Robbins
August 20, 2011 | 4:00am

NCAA president Mark Emmert uttered the words yesterday that anyone associated with the University of Miami and its storied football programs has been hoping they would not hear.
The so-called “death penalty” could be in play if the governing body for intercollegiate sports finds the shocking allegations of widespread illegal benefits at Miami reported earlier this week are true.
“If, and I say if, we have very unique circumstances where TV bans and death penalties are warranted, then I don’t think they are off the table and I would be OK with putting those in place,” Emmert told The Associated Press in a telephone interview yesterday.
Since Tuesday’s report by Yahoo! Sports alleging impermissible benefits to 72 football players over a nine-year span, the possibility of the NCAA enacting the death penalty for just the second time ever against a football program has become the paramount issue.
Emmert’s comments are foreboding for Miami. Several outlets have reported the NCAA had informed Miami officials that it will consider invoking its “willful violators” clause, which would pave the way for the death penalty to be invoked.
Instead of considering violations from 2007-2011, the NCAA can go back to 2002, when former booster Nevin Shapiro claims he began providing Hurricanes players with benefits.
“I will say that the university is being extremely cooperative and that is extremely helpful,” Emmert said. “But if, and I underline the word if, the allegations are true, that’s extremely disappointing.”
Handing down the death penalty would be easier than implementing it. Unlike the death penalty case involving SMU in 1987, when there were not substantial TV contracts in place, eliminating football at Miami, one of the nation’s marquee programs, could have far-reaching legal impact.
ESPN and the ACC, of which Miami is a member, signed a 12-year, $1.86 billion deal last summer. Sources at two leagues and several in television told The Post they would not be surprised if ESPN sought to have contract reworked should Miami be banned.
“We are not going to speculate on a hypothetical situation,” ESPN told The Post in a statement.
Emmert, in a recent USA Today interview, acknowledged there are a myriad of issues to consider in 2011 that did not exist in 1987.
“You have to recognize that, today, inflicting that penalty on any one school has a lot of collateral damage to other members of the conference, around media contract rights and a variety of things,” he said. “So you wouldn’t enter into it casually.”

CaneRock

What does Emmert have to do with what happened at the end of 2014?...or all of last year?

SHEESH!, was it a cloud, or an earthquake...

The Dude

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqfvgAkCYAEPu8Y.png

Remind anyone of anybody? Lol.

Lur-ker

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/article-pictures/football/t-z/usc_fans.jpg?1319679262


"S" guy remind anyone of anybody? LOL.

CaneRock

Anyways, nobody's changing anybody's mind about Golden, I'm ready for some pigskin..."I'm bout' dat action...BOSS!"

thirstybuzzardcane

And last year preseason Oklahoma, Auburn, South Carolina, Stanford, USC, Texas A&M, UNC and Notre Dame were preseason Top 20.

Final loss numbers?

OU 5
Auburn 5
South Carolina 6
Stanford 5
USC 4
TAMU 5
UNC 7
Notre Dame 5

Are those programs in a death spiral?

Nope. Just us I'm sure.
Posted by: Go Canes | July 13, 2015 at 02:12 
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Very bad comparison. Most of those teams you listed were all relevant a couple years ago....We haven't been relevant in 10 years.

thirstybuzzardcane

I think we've been in a death spiral for a long time now, we just need to dig our way out. It's do or die time for Golden. He has to win 9 games and the costal or his ass is gone. And don't let the door hit you on the way out!!!!

TonyCane

And finally, whoever is coach next year will have the deepest, best conditioned and most talented roster the U has fielded in a decade.

People like to talk tailspins and spirals. But the reality is there are many, many programs that have had no NCAA issues, complete investment by its administration and excellent recruiting and still haven't won. They just can't see winning is harder now than its ever been, especially when you're one of the smallest private schools in big time football.

IMO our time is here.

Posted by: Go Canes | July 13, 2015 at 12:59 PM

I wouldn't say it's the most talented. It's equal on paper to Al Golden's first squad from 2011, and better than the 2012, 13, or 14 teams. However it's the most balanced team that Miami has fielded in a decade, with roster strength at almost every position and at every experience level (senior through freshman). The 2005-2007 squads, while more talented on paper, had serious depth issues at quarterback and wide receiver. From 2008 to 2014, we had roster imbalance due to teams being either being too weighted towards freshmen (2008, 2012) to too much towards seniors (2011).

Alex D

What's good Legion/Canespace? He's still a good work in progress.
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3997006/highlights/192866378/v2?utm_expid=74649800-50.qttEDvhsRhq8UxOskYCLgA.0&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

TonyCane

What does Emmert have to do with what happened at the end of 2014?...or all of last year?

SHEESH!, was it a cloud, or an earthquake...

Posted by: CaneRock | July 13, 2015 at 06:09 PM

It's a lagging effect.

When do college coaches begin their relationship with high school recruits? It starts when they are sophomores.

The 2014 class were seniors.

In 2013 they were juniors. Miami's NCAA investigation finished that November.

In 2012, when initial relationships were established, Miami was in the throes of the NCAA investigation with a possibility of a death penalty.

In 2012, a Jimbo Fischer or Nick Saban (or assistants) could point to Emmert's statement and say, "Why would you want to go there? By the time you arrive on campus, they could be shutting it down? Why go there, when at best they will be off TV for two years and banned for bowls for years? You think USC's punishment was bad? Just wait until the NCAA is through with them."

So in 2012, a HS sophomore can write off Miami easily. Going into 2013 when he's a junior, he still doesn't know Miami's fate. He finally finds out in November 2013 that Miami will face no bowl ban. Now he can consider Miami, but we're a new player against a slew of top programs that have been recruiting him for over a year and a half. Golden and co must reestablish a relationship with a top recruit and try to overcome whatever relationships have been built up by a Fischer and Saban.

Bottom line, it made things more difficult for the Miami staff in 2012, 2013, 2014, and even 2015.

2016 will be the first year that we have a recruiting class unaffected by the NCAA scandal. And that's probably why Golden has been recruiting so well with this class.

86Cane

Go to a game, guys.

I'm buying.

Posted by: Lur-ker | July 13, 2015 at 04:46 PM

I tried that already.

They will NOT go.

86Cane

I have offered FREE tickets so many times that it is crazy that more people have not accepted. Some good people have but less that 10%.

SinisterCane

What game you want?

Posted by: Lur-ker | July 13, 2015 at 05:00 PM

Mothaf@@kin' Clemson

TonyCane

USC didn't fail, they won 9 games under REAL sanctions, playing with less than 50 scholarship players at times.

Posted by: CaneRock | July 13, 2015 at 05:59 PM

Miami did something similar last season when you factor out injuries

On a separate note, good article about depth and overrecruiting to one position and the lasting effects that it has:

http://mancave.cbslocal.com/2015/02/06/contextualizing-the-2015-miami-hurricanes-recruiting-class/

Go Canes

Tony that 2011 may have been more talented but it was mired in suspensions to big star guys like Ray Ray and Vernon for extended periods, with lesser time missed by high profile guys.

They also had a ton of injury problems, due in some part to the team being so poorly conditioned when Golden took over.

IMO this is the deepest team we've had.

Yes, we lost some NFL talent at the top, but from player 1-85 (or 80 or so in our case), there are some very good players for the first time in a long, long time.

TonyCane

Tony that 2011 may have been more talented but it was mired in suspensions to big star guys like Ray Ray and Vernon for extended periods, with lesser time missed by high profile guys.

They also had a ton of injury problems, due in some part to the team being so poorly conditioned when Golden took over.

IMO this is the deepest team we've had.

Yes, we lost some NFL talent at the top, but from player 1-85 (or 80 or so in our case), there are some very good players for the first time in a long, long time.

Posted by: Go Canes | July 13, 2015 at 10:14 PM

Actually, on paper it was even. The difference is, the bulk of the talent (on paper) was with juniors and seniors. The sophomore class had been whittled away by a third by 2011, and the freshman class was put together at the last moment.

This year's squad has good talent with all four classes. There are holes to be certain, but there is not total roster imbalance as existed in 2011, 2012, and 2013.

Go Canes

Posted by: TonyCane | July 13, 2015 at 09:49 PM

Yet another very well thought out, accurate post.

Excellent job Tony.

TonyCane

When the Miami Hurricanes go 6-7, it's a death spiral. At least it used to be until trolls started lowering expectations.

Posted by: The Dude | July 11, 2015 at 08:43 PM

And we are being picked to finish near the bottom of the coastal, with Vegas laughing at us.


Posted by: 1mg of Epi | July 13, 2015 at 01:20 PM

And yet Phil Steele has us as his #1 Most Improved Team this year.

Go Canes

USC's sanctions were real...not like ours.

I'm sure any recruit or parent reading that last paragraph said who cares, go to the U anyway.

We should have been DOMINATING through this little "hiccup".


CORAL GABLES, Fla. -- The NCAA said Wednesday it has been investigating the relationship between a convicted Ponzi scheme artist and the University of Miami for five months, and the allegations -- if true -- show the need for "serious and fundamental change" in college sports.

"We were well aware of it and weren't surprised by the sensational media coverage. We've been on top of it for a while, gathering information and collecting data," NCAA president Mark Emmert said Wednesday in an interview with ESPN Radio's "Mike and Mike in the Morning."

Emmert said typical investigations take six to seven months to complete.

Former booster Nevin Shapiro, serving 20 years in federal prison, claims he treated players to sex parties, nightclub outings, cars and other gifts. Shapiro told Yahoo! Sports he provided improper benefits to 72 football players and other athletes at Miami from 2002 to 2010.

"If the assertions are true, the alleged conduct at the University of Miami is an illustration of the need for serious and fundamental change in many critical aspects of college sports," Emmert said in a statement released Wednesday afternoon.

An NCAA source told ESPN.com's Pat Forde all penalties are on the table -- including the death penalty, which would shut down the football program for at least a year. Miami's baseball team was put on probation in 2003, but schools do not have to be repeat violators to be eligible for the death penalty, the source said.

Go Canes

What the hell does Bakas know about recruiting:

Mike Bakas, canestime.com
"Today's announcement was huge for the Hurricanes. It finally puts the NCAA to rest, and that's something that Al Golden and his staff has been forced to recruit against over the last couple years. And, unfortunately, they lost out on some really good players who simply didn't want to go anywhere near it.

CaneRock

LMAO! @ the DP. Like I've said time & time again, when the horror stories outta crappy valley were substantiated, the threat of the death penalty was OFF the table.

CaneRock

TonyCane...how do you arrive at "this year's squad has good talent with all four classes"?

I thought you said the 2011 class wasn't a good one...doesn't that suggest a weak Senior class this year?

Go Canes

Posted by: CaneRock | July 13, 2015 at 11:06 PM

So simple!

We should have just had every recruit in America talk to you and we would have loaded up.

CaneRock

That's right, the threat of the DP was short lived, less than a year.

TonyCane

TonyCane...how do you arrive at "this year's squad has good talent with all four classes"?

I thought you said the 2011 class wasn't a good one...doesn't that suggest a weak Senior class this year?

Posted by: CaneRock | July 13, 2015 at 11:24 PM

I'm not counting the 2011 class as the primary source for seniors, as only three players are left from that class. 2012 would be the senior/4th year class.

2015 Class: Freshmen
2014 Class: Sophomores
2013 Class: Juniors
2012 Class: Seniors
2011 Class: Seniors

Left on the roster from those classes:
2015: 00 *****, 07 ****, 12 ***
2014: 01 *****, 07 ****, 17 ***, 01 **, 01 N*
2013: 00 *****, 06 ****, 05 ***, 02 **
2012: 01 *****, 05 ****, 11 ***
2011: 00 *****, 00 ****, 02 ***, 01 **

86Cane

TonyCane...I am raising your salary to DOUBLE what U were making before. U earned it son!

Terrance Sullivan

Love the details TonyCane. Top Notch, Top Notch.

CaneRock

2012 would be the senior/4th year class.

Posted by: TonyCane | July 14, 2015 at 12:24 AM

Correct, my bad.

Go Canes

That's right, the threat of the DP was short lived, less than a year.

Posted by: CaneRock | July 14, 2015 at 12:05 AM

Well we went into this thing all wrong!

"Yes recruit we know they talked for a year about the death penalty and this thing has dragged on almost three years.

But with what happened at Penn State, there's no way they're killing our program!

What? You want to know about other sanctions and more bowl bans? Lack of institutional control? Repeat offender charge. Lunatic desperate for attention making up more crap daily? Emmert dying to make us an example?

Ummm....."

Keep revising history. Makes it easier to to make sure Golden is 100% the reason for "THE DEATH SPIRAL!!!!!

UMike

What does the NCAA mess have to do with going 6-7 with loses to Louisville (with first year head coach & after losing a 1st round QB), Virginia (yes blow out loss to Virgina) and Pitt? That is on Golden and this staff, because we lost to teams we are more talented than. So while not quite a death spiral, it is a downward spiral at least. At least at the moment. If you finish the year with 4 straight loses, that is exactly a downward spiral lol

But this is a new year...Im not sure of my expectations. Kaaya should be good, but OL is iffy. LB are questionable but secondary and DL is deep.

I just want the dam season to start already!

jgatsby1112

Sound like our boy Al...

By far this conference’s coach under the most fire is the one leading the Adam Sandler of ACC programs: big in the 90s, underwhelming in the 2000s and horribly underachieving today.


postandcourier.com/article/20150624/PC0312/150629693/clemson-opponent-preview-no-7-miami-oct-24

UMike

Is there anyone going to the UNC game? And has anyone gone to a UNC game before...maybe can offers some tips..Ive never been, but going this year.

CaneRock

My,my,my...I guess it was an earthquake...selective aftershocks?

86Cane

1. So while not quite a death spiral, it is a downward spiral at least. At least at the moment. If you finish the year with 4 straight loses, that is exactly a downward spiral lol

2. I just want the dam season to start already!

Posted by: UMike | July 14, 2015 at 08:29 AM

1. Hard to argue against those facts.

2. YES, PLEASE!!!

SinisterCane

Lurker is Clemson a go :)

Go Canes

@CanesFootball: LB Raphael Kirby named to preseason watch list for the 2015 Butkus Award! http://t.co/9KegAat5Au

#GoCanes #TheU http://t.co/nJ6F18v4bR

His Royal Dudeness

Posted by: UMike | July 14, 2015 at 08:29 AM

He lost his team. It shows a lack of leadership or ability. I think it's the later. Maybe he's finally got a winning plan for gameday. 53 days until gameday and 66 days until the Nebraska game.

thirstybuzzardcane

This should make you people up north happy!!! So much for global warming caused by us. Calling Al Gore...please stand up!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/van-winkles/winter-is-coming-scientis_b_7787664.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

SinisterCane

^^^^^
Property Value in FL is gonna go up!!!

CaneRock

Well,well,well:

"Scholarship reductions combined with injuries, transfers and attrition left USC's football team with 44 available scholarship players for last season's Las Vegas Bowl. That's 41 fewer than the NCAA maximum, so it will take at least two years of signing maximum-size recruiting classes of 25 before the Trojans are back to full roster strength."

^^^^^^^^^^^ But we need a battalion to win a measly bowl game.

thirstybuzzardcane


Property Value in FL is gonna go up!!!

Posted by: SinisterCane | July 14, 2015 at 10:56 AM


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Good for us if your a homeowner! Heck, half the scientist say one thing and other half says another. IMO, I think global warming is just earths cycle....It has nothing to do with what we drive or how much we drive!

86Cane

Property Value in FL is gonna go up!!!

Posted by: SinisterCane | July 14, 2015 at 10:56 AM

U are correct Sir! That was happening anyway but harsh winters and other natural disasters in other areas will only accelerate the process. Good for us, and me especially!

Current estimates are that 800,000 people are going to move to Polk County alone in the next decade. New home construction will soar as will prices!

86Cane

Global warming is REAL. It can be directly attributed to the number of Hooters Hotties that TSully attracts everywhere he goes!

IJS

thirstybuzzardcane


Global warming is REAL. It can be directly attributed to the number of Hooters Hotties that TSully attracts everywhere he goes!

IJS

Posted by: 86Cane | July 14, 2015 at 11:31 AM


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Hahahaha!!! Way to lighten the mood on this blog!!!

CaneRock

IDK about now, but in the mid-90S when I lived in PC, they were practically givin' away houses.

thirstybuzzardcane

^^^^^^80's and 90's were the good old days!!!#

VA Cane

I cannot say AlPa is the reason....it is many things Clappy Onion AlPa, Shapiro and NCAA lazy ass cocky apathtical players, sorry staffs, lack of fundamentals.....a lot of bad things. I love Tonys posts and numbers ....but fact is since Fiasco Bowl we have been irrelevant.....we have not come close to sniffing a title. There is no back or rebuild......we checked out and have been gone...way gone. I have been very disappointed...nobody here can tell me we are back or have competed.
I do hope for a great year we need it!

CaneRock

Rick Ross is a dum@$$, had to pay $2M to bail outta jail. Was it worth it Officer Ricky?

VA Cane

AlPa has worked hard and I want him to win to reap the rewards of success. This year is very important and will define the direction of our future.

Go Canes

And there it is. Succinctly describing the difference between today's haves and have nots in two sentences:

@billyliucci: "The SEC is not just a line of scrimmage league. It's a line of scrimmage and depth league." - A&M HC Kevin Sumlin

CaneRock

Which College Football Team Fills the Most Seats at Home?

ACC

Top: Clemson (100.3%)

Bottom: Pitt (63.1%)

The ACC is the only Power conference to have just one member at 100-plus percent — Clemson at 100.3%. That said, Florida State finished just off the mark at 99.9%, followed by Louisville at 96.3%.

Again, the low school, Pitt, has the disadvantage of playing in an NFL venue, in this case Heinz Field, home of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

http://www.fbschedules.com/2015/07/college-football-team-fills-seats-home/


thirstybuzzardcane

Again, the low school, Pitt, has the disadvantage of playing in an NFL venue, in this case Heinz Field, home of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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I'm sure the weather doesn't help either!!!

TonyCane

What does the NCAA mess have to do with going 6-7 with loses to Louisville (with first year head coach & after losing a 1st round QB), Virginia (yes blow out loss to Virgina) and Pitt? That is on Golden and this staff, because we lost to teams we are more talented than. So while not quite a death spiral, it is a downward spiral at least. At least at the moment. If you finish the year with 4 straight loses, that is exactly a downward spiral lol

But this is a new year...Im not sure of my expectations. Kaaya should be good, but OL is iffy. LB are questionable but secondary and DL is deep.

I just want the dam season to start already!

Posted by: UMike | July 14, 2015 at 08:29 AM

Louisville - First year quarterback in first start on the road against team psyched to have their best coach ever back. Offensive is conservative per these conditions, and we lose.

Virginia/Pitt - Partially on coaching staff, partially on numbers. Team seemed to have its heart taken out after the FSU loss. Numbers-wise, injuries were catching up to them. I don't have the exact number, but we were badly depleted going into the latter part of the season (Golden did redshirt the most freshmen that he has ever redshirted last season).

UMike

Tony..I understand the Louisville loss BUT, we still had the best RB in the ACC, top LB, and a staff that has been together for years going against a brand new staff, new QB, missing starting WR and RB!!!

The other loses we didnt have enough injuries to be a legit excuse against those teams. 30-13 loss to Virgina...Virginia? No that is on the coaches. If their heart was taken out, its on coaches to get them ready for the following week. Every team has tough loses. Miami should never lose to Virgina, ever.

TonyCane

I cannot say AlPa is the reason....it is many things Clappy Onion AlPa, Shapiro and NCAA lazy ass cocky apathtical players, sorry staffs, lack of fundamentals.....a lot of bad things. I love Tonys posts and numbers ....but fact is since Fiasco Bowl we have been irrelevant.....we have not come close to sniffing a title. There is no back or rebuild......we checked out and have been gone...way gone. I have been very disappointed...nobody here can tell me we are back or have competed.
I do hope for a great year we need it!
Posted by: VA Cane | July 14, 2015 at 11:57 AM

The numbers show a lot of the factors in the irrelevancy.

If you look at the overall classes, Coker recruited well and had a very talented team. But Coker failed to recruit wide receivers and quarterbacks, and after 2004 this failure caught up with him. It doesn't matter how good the rest of your team is - if you are running a pro-style offense and you have to convert a punter (Monroe) to just have bare numbers at wide receiver, your team is set up for disaster.

The numbers tell part of the story for Shannon as well. He had one good recruiting class (2008) that was ladden with a large number of 3 star players. He followed it up with a decent 2009 class and a mediocre 2010 class that was only ranked as high as it was due to the sheer volume of players taken.

Golden's tale is the easiest to tell with numbers. His initial roster was imbalanced due to the withered 2010 class (third gone within a year) and a depleted 2011 class. His 2012 class, while strong, saw an inordinate amount of players transfer, fail to qualify, or get eliminated from the roster. This speaks to the NCAA mess, where Miami could not be choosy and had to take what they could get. The large number of departures from the 2012 class, coupled with the 2010 and 2011 classes led to roster imbalances that persisted until last season. This year is the first in a decade where the team is actually balanced.

Bottom line, no coach could have brought Miami back to sustained, Canes-like prominence for the entire last decade. Presume that Butch Davis or Bob Stoops had been given the job in 2006. They still would have had to contend with the Nevin Shapiro disaster that was in the making. The coach in 2011 would potentially have inherited a stronger team and been able to recruit a bit more on recent success (USC), but the 2.5 year investigation with the death penalty being freely bandied about would still have brought the program several steps back.

As a program, Miami is coming back. It's just taking a heck of a lot longer than I or anyone else here expected or wanted.

CaneRock

The disaster started with Coker, Shannon only had 2 committed recruits to work with when He took over...same with Golden via Shannon.

UMike

Tony, no one is saying Golden should have brought us back to prominence yet, but 6-7 in year 4...no excuse for that. Year or more removed from the NCAA mess,however many players drafted, best RB in ACC...no excuse.

Im looking forward to this year, like always, but I dont think we should keep finding excuses for last year and/or lowering expectations after the fact.

thirstybuzzardcane

If a coach can't win 10 games with the players we had last year, you have no business coaching a team!!!

thirstybuzzardcane

Didn't realize Dalvin Cook was arrested for robbery in 2009, and firing a weapon at a event on school property in 2010.

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-07-14/florida-state-football-s-two-tiered-justice-system?cmpid=yhoo

CaneRock


but I dont think we should keep finding excuses for last year and/or lowering expectations after the fact.

Posted by: UMike | July 14, 2015 at 01:21 PM

Yep.

SinisterCane

Florida HS Preseason Top 25

1 Aquinas (Ft. Laduerdale) Two returning starters backfilled with double-digit transfers.
2 Miami Central Nasty defense. Solid offense. Looking to four-peat.
3 Flanagan Maybe second-best D in state. New QB adds to O.
4 Mainland (Daytona Beach) District stayed south means MC in regionals.
5 IMG Academy (Bradenton) Frontline talent unmatched. Depth could be an issue.
6 American Heritage (Plantation) Lost a few kids but still 5A fave.
7 Hallandale As talented as any roster anywhere.
8 Coconut Creek Best defensive backfield in the state. Could push much higher.
9 Dr. Phillips (Orlando) Finally a legit schedule to test its talent.
10 Wakulla (Crawfordville) Returns almost everyone and was 8-3 last year.
11 Cocoa Only five seniors but loads of talented underclassmen.
12 Lakeland So much talent, Charmin soft schedule. Love the offense.
13 Manatee (Bradenton) Rumors of its demise greatly exaggerated.
14 Columbus (Miami) Not many namebrand players but will factor in 8A playoffs.
15 Venice Some think this is a Top 10 team, others not so much.
16 Apopka Losing Ivey and Cox is tough. Same gun, new bullets.
17 Booker T. Washington (Miami) Opening with Aquinas is tough with talent exodus.
18 Osceola (Kissimee) Wilson and Brown will churn out yards on the ground.
19 Plant (Tampa) QB Culpepper is best since Ely for Panthers.
20 Miramar Will it find a QB to play behind solid OL?
21 Heritage (Palm Bay) Games with Vero Beach, Bolles, Osceola measure early.
22 West Orange (Winter Garden) The evolution of QB Woody Barrett is key.
23 American Heritage (Delray) We slept on it last preseason, snoozing this year.
24 Lake Mary Solid team last few years. Risk mangament.
25 First Coast (Jacksonville) Graduated too much to justify higher placement.

RCCF

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/adidas-is-hyping-the-hell-out-of-miami-hurricanes-uniform-unveiling-7753283

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SinisterCane

From CIS:

De-commits and Attrition and their impact

Since Golden got here in 2010 we ‘ve had a number of de-commits each year. Since people on the board have been complaining about all the de-commits we’ve gotten lately I went back to see who these players were and how they turned out.

2011 (10)
We had a bunch of de-commits in the class of 2011 due to firing of Randy Shannon. Here is list of the guys that de-committed or were let go by Golden in 2011. I sorted them by the impact that they would have made at UM. Outside of Teddy,not sure if any of the other players would have made much of an impact here.

Teddy Bridgewater (Louisville) - 1st Round (Vikings) – biggest miss of the class, but he was turned off by the way the fans treat their failed hometown hero Jacory Harris.

Eli Rogers (Louiseville) - Free Agent (Steeler)
Good college career with 176 rec and 2020 yards along with 12 TDs over 4 years. Not sure he would have started at the U over Hurns & Dorsett, but could have been a decent depth guy.

Albert Louis-Jean (Boston College) - undrafted (Bears)
In three seasons at Boston College, played in 21 games, tallying 36 stops (26 solo), 1 Int, 4 PDs and 2 FF
Played in 11 games as sophomore, 21 tackles (15 solo), 1 forced fumbled and 1 PBU
Did not play his true sophomore year due to injury… Was granted a redshirt…
As a true freshman, played in 10 games, making 2 starts... 15 tackles (11 solo), 3 PBUs and an Int

B.J. Dubose (Louisville) - 6th Round (Vikings)
He saw three starts as a redshirt freshman, recording 22 tackles, 3.5 TFL and 2.0 sacks.
Dubose started 4 games as a sophomore and finished with 15 tackles and 0.5 TFL.
Didn't start a game as a junior, but played in 11 and recorded 16 tackles, 4 TFL and 1.5 sacks.
Started as a senior, finishing with 41 tackles, 7.5 TFL and 4.0 sacks and earned an invitation to the 2015 East-West Shrine Game.

Bryon Moore Jr. (Tenn) - undrafted (No team)
Started 12 games as RJr. with 5 ints, backed up as a RSr. with 0 int.

Chase Harper (Nebraska) - DNQ, enrolled at Texas State - Undrafted (No Team)
Had 48 Rec for 602 and 6 Tds in 2 years at Texas State.

Marcus Jackson (Tenn) - RSR at Tenn in 2015
Started 5 games as True Freshmen and was Freshmen All-American. Backed up 12 games as Soph. Redshirted his third year and started 12 games as RJr.

Nick Menocal (Georgia Tech)
Left the team after three seasons on the Georgia Tech roster, playing linebacker and defensive end. Menocal played in five games last season and was down on the depth chart this season. Menocal is on track to graduate in December and then will transfer and play his final year of eligibility elsewhere.

Jeremy Davis (UCF)
Enrolled at UCF in 2012… Did not see playing time in his freshman season, rather redshirting to retain his eligibility… Worked with the scout team during the 2013 campaign
Transferred to Vethune Cookman in 2014.

Tavadis Glenn (DNQ)

Who we got in 2011:
Phillip Dorsett - 1st Round (Colts)
Denzel Perryman -2nd Round (Chargers)
Anthony Chickillo - 6th round (Steelers)
Thurston Armbrister FA (Jaguars)
Olsen Pierre - FA (Bears)
Rashawn Scott - RSr.
Dallas Crawford RSr.

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2012 (9)
The only 3 guys that we missed out on in 2012 are Northrup, Burgess and Brown. Leggett could not get in and everyone else sucked. We ended up signing Kirby, McCord, Blue, Terry, Witt at LB that year...

Reggie Northrup (FSU)
2014: First-year starter led Florida State with 122 tackles and captured All-ACC Third Team honors

James Burgess Jr. (Louiseville)
2014: Started 12 games at linebacker.71 tackles, 3.0 sacks, 10.0 TFL, 3 Int. Had 72 tackles in 2013 and 28 in 2011.

Keith Brown (Louiseville)
2014: Appeared in all 13 games as a reserve... key contributor on all special teams units... totaled 20 tackles in limited action. Had a good Freshmen year but then got injured and missed most of 2013 with redshirt.

Amos "A.J." Leggett (Marshall)
Marshall’s active leader in career interceptions with eight entering his redshirt junior season.

Trenton Taylor (Tennessee)
Palyed in on game at Tenn then left for Butler Comminty college. Signed with Iowa State Cyclones in 2014.
2014: Played in all 12 games, starting eight contests … had the second-most tackles for an ISU down lineman with 37, 2 sacks and 5 TFL.

Willie Bailey (Florida)
Transfered to Virginia Union University.

Ricquan Southward (OSU)
Left OSU and attended Arizona Western College.

Brandon Holifield (Missouri)
Arrested and kicked off Missouri. Played in 7 games at Scottsdale Community College, 10 rec for 134 yards.

Delmar Taylor (FIU)
Cut by Golden, No impact at FIU

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2013 (7)
We could of used Collins Whitfield and Kearse big time. Maybe Bryant but he hasn't done anything yet.

Alex "Buddha" Collins (Arkansas)
Named SEC Freshman of the Year, a Freshman All-American and to the SEC All-Freshman Team… Became the first freshman in SEC history to begin career with three straight 100-yard rushing games and the first true freshman in FBS since Oklahoma’s Adrian Peterson in 2004… Became the second freshman in school history, 10th true freshman in SEC history and 68th true freshman in NCAA history to reach 1,000 rushing yards, finishing the season with 1,026 on 190 carries with four touchdowns…
Started twice at running back in 2014 and played in 13 games… Finished the season with 1,100 rushing yards on 204 carries and 12 Tds.

Jayron Kearse (Clemson)
Sophomore safety who stepped in as a valuable starter in the secondary ... has used his height (6’4”) to his advantage ... has 122 tackles, 5.5 tackles for loss, three sacks, six interceptions for 83 yards, one quarterback pressure, seven pass breakups, one caused fumble and one recovered fumble in 1,142 snaps over 25 games (15 starts) in his career.

Levonte "Kermit" Whitfield (FSU)
Wide receiver and kick returner who appeared in all 14 games...had 11 receptions for 145 yards and three carries for 40 yards...led FSU with 665 yards on 32 kick returns
Dazzling freshman who was arguably the fastest player in the nation with the ball in his hands…led the nation in kick return average (36.4), breaking a 59-year-old ACC record in the process

Angelo Jean-Louis (Marshall)
R-FRESHMAN SEASON (2014): Selected to Conference USA All-Freshman Team by league coaches, one of three Herd rookies honored … Played in all 14 games, with eight starts at outside receiver … Had 21 receptions for 490 yards (23.3 ypc), with six touchdowns

Keith Bryant (FSU)
Reserve defensive tackle who played against The Citadel in 2014...valuable member of the scout team from 2013-14 who will look to break into the defensive line rotation in 2015.

Jeremy Kerr (FSU)
Appeared in all 14 games as a reserve tight end and as a special teams contributor...a physically imposing athlete who has been a dominant blocker...has the most experience of any tight end on the roster and will push for first team reps this spring...received the Offensive Scout Award at the end-of-year banquet.

Travis Johnson (Cincinnati)
Has not done anything yet.

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2014 (9)
Too early to tell but so far Ruldoph was the only real miss.

Travis Rudolph (FSU)
Lived up to the hype after entering Florida State as one of the top wide receiver prospects in the nation...developed into a No. 2 receiver as the season progressed and finished with 38 receptions for 555 yards and four touchdowns...captured Freshman All-America honors from Athlon Sports and Campus Insiders

Brandon Powell (Florida)
Played in 11 games as a true freshman, starting twice…Saw time at both running back and receiver…Totaled 16 carries for 70 yards with 1 TD on the ground and had 15 receptions for 147 yards with one receiving TD.

Devante Bond (Nebraska)
DNQ at Miami. Played in 12 of 13 games with starts at outside linebacker in the final three games of the season. Had 29 tackles (18 Solo) and 4 TFL.

Nigel Bethel II (Texas Tech)
Played in nine games (7 starts) with 41 tackles (30 solo), 1.5 tackles for loss and broke up six passes

Travonte Valentine (LSU)
Didn’t suit up for LSU last season because of academic issues. Depending on how the current situation plays out, he may never play a down for the Tigers because of similar issues.

Dalvon Stuckey (ASU)
Did not enroll in the school because of academic reasons. Stuckey posted on his Facebook page that he instead will attend the University of West Georgia, a lower-division school.

Reilly Gibbons (Stanford)
Transfered to USF

Alin Edouard (Syracuse)
Cut by staff. Attended Garden City CC in 2014.

Dennis Turner (FIU)
Cut by staff. 11 rec for 89 yards.

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2015 (14)

Quentez Johnson (NC State)

Kevin Feder (OSU)

Drew Galitz (Baylor)

Jordan Cronkrite (Florida)

Bowman Archibald (Wake Forest)
Enrolled early at WF and transferred out already

Claude George (Texas A&M)

Leeward Brown (Tulane)

Geron Christian (Louisville)

Emonee Spence (Louisville)

Dwayne Lawson (VT)

Dexter Williams (ND)

Therrell Gosier II (Kentucky)

Jordan Scarlett (Florida)

Terrell Chatman (ASU)

Trevill Holcy (DNQ)
Not sure if this should even count since he committed without an offer. He did not appear to sign with anyone.

TonyCane

UMike, totally agree. In Year 5 with a balanced team and a second year quarterback...he should do much better. There are no longer any extenuating circumstances

SinisterCane

^^^^
Some of those dudes had grade issues

UMike

Tony, any other place he doesnt see year 5 after going down hill quick in year 3 and they a 6-7 disaster in year 4 lol...Hope the D changes pay off and Kaaya plays like he can.

UMike

For me, him making changes to the D is the best sign of good things to come, because I have always thought his stubbornness and "smartest guy in room" syndrome is what held us back.

CaneRock

Who we got in 2011:
Phillip Dorsett - 1st Round (Colts)
Denzel Perryman -2nd Round (Chargers)
Anthony Chickillo - 6th round (Steelers)
Thurston Armbrister FA (Jaguars)
Olsen Pierre - FA (Bears)
Rashawn Scott - RSr.
Dallas Crawford RSr.

Posted by: SinisterCane | July 14, 2015 at 02:25 PM

So let me see if I got this right...Golden got all the "right guys" in 2011, and we still went 6-7?...LMAO! Oh yoi yoi, even when He gets it right, He gets it wrong.

#CAN'TWINFORLOSIN'

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