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July 13, 2016

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YooperCane

Go canes!

Harry Mikker

I would like to take this time to thank
soup for this Canes Blog. I love Canespace, it's where I get all my information about my beloved Canes. I also want to thank In no special order, OhioCane, goCane, Lunker,
Sinister, Herbieibis, Mark in Atlanta, oldschool, Native cane, vacane and others who I am sorry That I missed. Thanks to All of You for All the information that I would not know if it was not for you.
I hope to came to a few games this year and mee3t some of you in person. It's a long way from The Bay Area in California. I have tried for two years to get their. It just hasn't worked out.

Harry Miller

Sorry hit the k instead of the l.

Lur-ker

Nice article. Had no idea with respect to Mauritius.

Harry Miller

Great article, It is nice that you cover all the sports at the U.

30CINCO

Mark Walton tells his side of DUI arrest story, his attorneys release documents

http://caneswatch.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2016/07/13/mark-walton-tells-his-side-of-dui-arrest-story-his-attorneys-release-documents/

Ohio_Cane

The Work 7-13: Paradise Camp preview

**In terms of the amount of sheer talent coming to campus and the scale of the event that Mark Richt and his staff have planned, this is the biggest recruiting weekend of all-time in Coral Gables. The expected visitor list can be found here - https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/...visitors/99809. I will be there covering the "Paradise Camp" both days and will have live updates on the websites. I'm expecting multiple commitments and this should really set things in motion for the remainder of Miami's class.

So from that list, what should you be looking for?

Commitment watch - I'm not saying these guys will commit for sure, but I've heard they are some of the most likely to do so.

1. WR Evidence Njoku - David Njoku's younger brother is likely to commit this weekend, from what I've heard. Njoku just transferred to Wayne Hills in New Jersey (school of former Cane Kevin Olsen for those interested).

2. DB Brian Edwards - Miami has increasingly been on Edwards over the past month or so and is an absolute priority for safeties coach Ephraim Banda. His mother will see Coral Gables for the first time in her life this weekend, which could go a long way in a possible commitment. Edwards' mentor and 7-on-7 coach Shawn Rose told me that he will also be working both days of the camp.

3. OL Zalon'tae Hillery - I'm hearing that there's a good chance Hillery could commit to the Canes this weekend. A guy who has flown a bit under the radar, Hillery is teammates with Miami's biggest recruiter, Deejay Dallas.


Miami making a move - These are a few names that are either committed elsewhere or Miami is perceived as trailing another school. Based on what I'm hearing, the Canes could significantly improve their chances with these recruits over the weekend.

1. OT Alex Leatherwood - The Miami staff will push early playing time hard to the Alabama commitment this weekend. I've heard from a couple different people that this is not a free trip and Leatherwood is coming into this visit with a very open mind when it comes to the Hurricanes.

2. LB Bradley Jennings, Jr. - The Florida State commit and legacy will be on campus once again this weekend. For months, it has seemed almost as if the Miami staff has been on him harder than FSU. Jennings, Jr. has felt the love from the Canes coaches and this will be a good chance for him to be around other Miami commits.

3. WR Devonta Smith - The top player in Louisiana, Smith is just about down to Alabama and Miami, according to multiple sources. Alabama holds a lead here, however the speedster will be a top priority for Miami coaches this weekend. The Crimson Tide have had him on campus countless times, which is something that gives them an edge here. He will be making his decision in August, freshly off of this visit. Miami very much in the mix here.


Solidifying their status - Here are some recruits that Miami fancies their chances with and this weekend should strengthen their chances.

1. Safety Amari Carter - The Palm Beach Gardens product is a two team battle right now with Notre Dame and Miami. Miami feels that they lead right now and Carter will bring his older brother along with him on the trip. He will be here from Friday-Sunday.

2. RB Anthony McFarland - The all-purpose back out of Maryland named Alabama his leader at the opening last week, but the Canes are right there and I think they could be back on top after this weekend. His relationship with Thomas Brown is key here and this is his second time in Coral Gables in a few months. Big for Miami to get him back on campus.

3. RB Robert Burns - Burns is a Miami commit, but ND has been looming with him. The Hurricanes have not been worried about him leaving elsewhere, and that's a credit to his former high school coach Jorge Baez, who works at Miami in player personnel. A source told me today that Burns has been in contact with Alex Leatherwood, so that could be an interesting connection this weekend.


**A source tells me that the Columbus trio of Trajan Bandy, CJ Henderson, and Josh Jobe (2018) are unlikely to attend because Columbus has had a team camp scheduled for some time and they are obligated to go. I'm told they're "bummed" that they can't make it, but Miami is not sweating it because that group has been on campus 4-5 times over the summer and they are expected back again in the next week or so.

**American Heritage CB Marco Wilson is reportedly nearing a decision. The people that I've reached out to on Wilson believe that he is not leaning either way right now between Miami and Florida (or at least he hasn't indicated so), so this is a BIG weekend for the Canes with him.

**Quick update on Dionte Mullins and Cedrick Wright. Wright is good to go, according to a source, and will arrive on campus in a few weeks. Mullins now has the test score needed to enroll, I'm told, but is finishing up his final online class and is in line to become eligible and enroll for the fall semester barring an unexpected hiccup. Miami was more concerned with his test score than credits/GPA. The biggest hurdle seems to have been jumped.

Here is an expected list of guest coaches that is still growing. I'm told there will be more than this too. Look for all to be announced on Twitter by Mark Richt over the next couple of days.

Ray Lewis
Michael Irvin
Jon Beason
Phillip Buchanon (officially announced)
Jeremy Shockey (officially announced)
Brett Romberg (officially announced)
Antrel Rolle (officially announced)

Keoki

Amazed it took this long to leverage the past Cane greats with recruiting, but this is a huge turning point for the program!

F'the Turds!
GO CANES!!!

CaneRock

SMFH! So they made up the whole impersonating a cop & the DUI huh? SMFH!

thirstybuzzardcane


Amazed it took this long to leverage the past Cane greats with recruiting, but this is a huge turning point for the program!

F'the Turds!
GO CANES!!!

Posted by: Keoki | July 14, 2016 at 09:51 AM


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It was our previous staff that didn't allow former players back on the field!

Lur-ker

From Pete Ariz:

@PeterAriz: Former Miami Hurricanes defensive coordinator Mark D'Onofrio is currently coaching at the Kendall Boys & Girls Club in Miami.

Ohio_Cane

From Pete Ariz:

@PeterAriz: Former Miami Hurricanes defensive coordinator Mark D'Onofrio is currently coaching at the Kendall Boys & Girls Club in Miami.

Posted by: Lur-ker | July 14, 2016 at 12:08 PM
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It's LITERALLY the funniest thing I've real ALL YEAR!!!!!!!

Go Canes!

Was coming on to post that one.

That's very funny.

CoCane

LMMFAO! Lurk!

I spit out my drink on that one

The Dude

Amazed it took this long to leverage the past Cane greats with recruiting, but this is a huge turning point for the program!

F'the Turds!
GO CANES!!!

Posted by: Keoki | July 14, 2016 at 09:51 AM

I don't know if coach Richt can win a title at Miami, he had a bunch of disappointing loses at UGA. I think he can win a bunch at Miami though, a bunch of ACC titles and maybe build a juggernaut without the likes of very strong SEC schools picking of local talent and delivering a grueling schedule. All that aside, it's been a refreshing change to see these kinds of moves and say finally we have someone who actually knows wtf they are doing. What's a Miami fan to do if he can't bitch about the head coach? Lol. Coach Richt has been a huge sigh of relief. I'm comfortable with everything about our direction again.

SinisterCane

From Pete Ariz:

@PeterAriz: Former Miami Hurricanes defensive coordinator Mark D'Onofrio is currently coaching at the Kendall Boys & Girls Club in Miami.

Posted by: Lur-ker | July 14, 2016 at 12:08 PM


Carol City Boys & Girls Club is gonna hang 70 on him

Lur-ker

Those little rugrats better mind their gaps

thirstybuzzardcane

Poor kids! They deserve better!

Lur-ker

They're going to Deserve Victory, I can promise you that

Go Canes!

Ariz: Canes staff is absolutely GRINDING in preparation for this weekend. Place is buzzing with excitement

The Dude

Those little rugrats better mind their gaps

Posted by: Lur-ker | July 14, 2016 at 01:36 PM

That had me busting up. Lol.

Mark from Atlanta

Canes brothers!
Good afternoon to all.
This camp is going to do great things to "remind" & "emphasize" young men of what can be done in life as a family.

The U is truly like no other. ...CMR is doing the right things to get this program back to prominence.

Obviously, the most important of those begins with Winning. ..

I too want to echo the sentiments of Harry Miller's comments on this post...

SOUP - YOU DA' MAN! Canespace connects our U across the globe!
All walks of life..no matter. ..we are a family. ..
Thanks for the hard work you put in for our enjoyment!

God bless you and Go Canes!

The Dude

http://s130.photobucket.com/user/unstoppable35/media/att_1412604797478125_zpsgekxwvxy.jpeg.html

^^^ Still unsure wtf this was. I mean if you didnt know after this... hide your children parents of Kendall... idiots want to coach your kids.

Seriously though, will someone please take away Mark's influence in SoFL? We cant have this guy around kids who might be Hurricanes some day.

raizecane

Whats the status on the funding for a IPF???

HAPPY SOUP

I AM PROUD TO BE THE OWNER OF THIS SITE!

U guys and gals make me PROUD.

HAPPY SOUP

Whats the status on the funding for a IPF???

Posted by: raizecane | July 14, 2016 at 10:38 PM

From what I hear Canespace kicked in the last $150k and we are good to go.

The Dude

We had a guy with gender dysphoria taking pictures of women here at the Idaho Falls Target.

The Dude

Just heard about France. 77 dead. Smh.

Old Skool

So Dino is coaching kids?
What a great way to turn them off football -- running complicated schemes that require homework after every practice

Go Canes!

Cleveland Browns RB Duke Johnson will be at Miami's Paradise Camp this weekend, according to a source - canesinsight.com/thread/paradis… #Canes

SinisterCane

@Fakesources

NOFENSE will be at Miami's Paradise Camp this weekend, according to a source - 2gapPillars.com

SinisterCane

Ephraim Banda
‏@CoachBanda
Thinking about all those satellite camps in our backyard & knowing The[]_[] was setting up the BIGGEST camp in SoFlo


SinisterCane

Peter Ariz Verified account 
‏@PeterAriz
Peter Ariz Retweeted Peter Ariz

Gino Torretta just confirmed to me that he will be a guest coach on Saturday night.


SinisterCane

ARIZ:

Staff pulling savvy move with Columbus trio

As I posted in The Work last night, Trajan Bandy, C.J. Henderson, and Josh Jobe (2018) will
Not be at paradise camp due to a prior obligation with the Columbus team for a 7-on-7 camp.

I'm hearing though that the staff will host the families of these three this weekend regardless. Parents, siblings, etc. Thise three expected on campus next week as well.

That's how you get it done.

thirstybuzzardcane

It's so refreshing to see where this football program is headed. Can't wait for Aug. 4!!!!

thirstybuzzardcane

Can you imagine being a high school kid and being coached by some of the best players who have played the game, WOW!!!! Great work Mr. Richt!!!

thirstybuzzardcane

You can bet that some of our new coaches are even going to be star stricken.

SinisterCane


CoachBanda

I see your satellite camp and raise you 🌴Paradise Camp🌴! #ParadiseCampWeekend #The🙌🏽 #BestofTheBestinSOFLO #Roster😳


1mg of Epi

guy around kids who might be Hurricanes some day.

Posted by: The Dude | July 14, 2016 at 04:08 PM

Dude, that picture is a fake. Do you not recall all those times we were told on here that D'no was schematically sound, he didn't use the prevent as a base and nobody ever was lined up a zip code away from the ball? If I could only remember who it was that told us that...

Lur-ker

Who said that?

Hunt the post like the resident psychopath did.

Mr. Moneymaker

Mark Richt ‏@MarkRicht 10m10 minutes ago
Game one is 49 days away! Looking forward to Mark Walton joining his team mates versus Florida A&M on September 3! Be there! U Family!

The Dude

The casualties number from this Nice attack are staggering...

Go Canes!

And the number of children...

We as a country need to start thinking ways we never thought we could or would if we're going to change the direction of this battle we're very obviously losing right now.

The Dude

^^^ Like what though? I think first we have to decide if we are in this fight or not.

1mg of Epi

Europe may be losing a battle. We are not. Our populations aren't excluded from opportunity like in France. I'm not willing to lose my rights or disavow what we stand for because Europe sucks.

TonyCane

This is awful.

http://heatst.com/uk/exclusive-france-suppressed-news-of-gruesome-torture-at-bataclan-massacre/

Go Canes!

Epi you're one of the smartest dudes on this blog. There's no way you can't see the tidal wave overwhelming Europe right now is heading straight for us.

It's not about giving up rights, it's about defining a very real ideology that in today's environment may hurt some feelings and taking steps to monitor and remove those we overwhelmingly feel subscribe to it.


Lur-ker

Europe may be losing a battle. We are not. Our populations aren't excluded from opportunity like in France. I'm not willing to lose my rights or disavow what we stand for because Europe sucks.

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | July 15, 2016 at 12:55 PM

What opportunities are people excluded from in France?

Pretty bold statement. Back it up.

Go Canes!

Uuuugggghhhhhhh

http://caneswatch.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2016/07/15/miami-hurricanes-lose-wr-lawrence-cager-to-serious-knee-injury/#st_refDomain=t.co&st_refQuery=/Cna4XabBo6

Lur-ker

Our WR corps just got thinner.

Thankfully we have good freshmen and a JC transfer coming in but still a little scary in terms of depth.

Can't afford too many more WR injuries.

Ohio_Cane

Mullins qualifying just got even more important. So did Ahmmon Richards' role. Wow that hurts.

SinisterCane

IMHO


With the Exception of Coley, our freshman WR's are better then Berrios and Cager

Lur-ker

Supposedly Mullins got whatever test score he needed, now it's about some online course he needs to finish.

thirstybuzzardcane

Epi you're one of the smartest dudes on this blog.


Posted by: Go Canes! | July 15, 2016 at 01:16 PM

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Damn, I thought I was!! Oh well, carry on!!!!

1mg of Epi

Epi you're one of the smartest dudes on this blog. There's no way you can't see the tidal wave overwhelming Europe right now is heading straight for us.

It's not about giving up rights, it's about defining a very real ideology that in today's environment may hurt some feelings and taking steps to monitor and remove those we overwhelmingly feel subscribe to it.


Posted by: Go Canes! | July 15, 2016 at 01:16 PM

You're right. It is heading here, and has already shown itself. We need to do certain things like making sure our borders are secure, and people on watch lists can't buy ARs. I also agree the PC stuff is complete garbage, and agree we shouldn't worry about saying Islamic terrorists etc.

My point was that if we start doing other things, things like mass deportations, things that are counter to what this country has always stood for... Then we've lost the war. They know they can't beat us militarily, but they're gonna try their best to beat us in other ways.

When we start curtailing our own rights, or through policy or rhetoric alienate people of one religion or another.... They win.

Lur-ker

Mass deportations aren't happening.

But I'm in favor of deportations in certain cases. Also, how about a system that f***ing works, so that multiple violent felons can't keep constantly renter ing the country. That might be a nice start. Because right now, we basically have zero f***ing control of our borders. How about doing something about that?

1mg of Epi

^^ I agree. There also should enhanced surveillance in mosques. Sending people undercover etc.. But we don't need to alienate Muslim Americans through rhetoric, or start wiretapping people simply based on religion. Or not letting Muslims enter the country... We don't need to change what America is out of fear.

Mass deportations was an extreme example btw.

Regarding France.. They have a rigid class system, making it difficult for immigrants to assimilate. Poverty and alienation leads angry young men to turn to terror. If things are hopeless here, Why not kill some infidels and go get your 72 virgins?

America has done much better assimilating all of its immigrant communities over the years. There isn't the same disaffection here. Hopeless people do crazy stuff.

The Dude

So what do you do about the countries that produce terrorists and aid terrorist organizations?

The GWOT is a complete cluster f*ck of politics. I think we need to be either all in, or all out.

Lur-ker

France has a rigid class system?

Not really.

France is a practically socialist Western European republic with social government programs out the ying yang and lots of free stuff for those unwilling or unable to work. Their immigration policies were so liberal and inclusive, that they now have one of the largest Muslim populations in Europe.

Like in any Western society, people have to the opportunity to advance provided they want to work hard and especially in places like France, where all kinds of free programs and education is available to them. The fact that they want to live in concentrated areas where even police are afraid to go it's something they choose. They choose to ostracize themselves, and not integrate within society, and then blame the very society which has given them the opportunity and the choice to either live among them or separately. They choose separately and then limit their own opportunities. What do they expect?

There is no rigid class system in France. Have no idea where you got that from.

There's a difference between people being snobby and being considered part of a social group and class system that limits your opportunities. Opportunities are not limited to anyone in France. If you want to be accepted by some French aristocrat good luck. But who cares about that.

That has nothing to do with opportunity. It has something to do with being accepted at an afternoon tea maybe, but that's about it.

1mg of Epi

The state sponsors of terror should be sanctioned, we shouldn't allow trade with them. That includes the Saudis. It's not that we should be all in or out, THEY should be all in. The Saudi madrasahs are teaching the kids this poisonous version of Islam, and their our allies. They need to be the boots on the ground, not us. Isis is begging us for a ground war, so they can turn the whole Middle East into an Iraq.

1mg of Epi

France has a rigid class system?

Not really.

France is a practically socialist Western European republic with social government programs out the ying yang and lots of free stuff for those unwilling or unable to work. Their immigration policies were so liberal and inclusive, that they now have one of the largest Muslim populations in Europe.

Like in any Western society, people have to the opportunity to advance provided they want to work hard and especially in places like France, where all kinds of free programs and education is available to them. The fact that they want to live in concentrated areas where even police are afraid to go it's something they choose. They choose to ostracize themselves, and not integrate within society, and then blame the very society which has given them the opportunity and the choice to either live among them or separately. They choose separately and then limit their own opportunities. What do they expect?

There is no rigid class system in France. Have no idea where you got that from.

There's a difference between people being snobby and being considered part of a social group and class system that limits your opportunities. Opportunities are not limited to anyone in France. If you want to be accepted by some French aristocrat good luck. But who cares about that.

That has nothing to do with opportunity. It has something to do with being accepted at an afternoon tea maybe, but that's about it.

Posted by: Lur-ker | July 15, 2016 at 03:39 PM

I respectfully disagree.

thirstybuzzardcane


Posted by: Lur-ker | July 15, 2016 at 03:39 PM

I respectfully disagree.

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | July 15, 2016 at 03:46 PM

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Nothing like a class act disagreement!!!

thirstybuzzardcane

"Why not kill some infidels and go get your 72 virgins?"

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I'm still looking for one in America!

Go Canes!

Reynolds: Miami confirms Lawrence Cager's 2016 season is over.

1mg of Epi

Lol buzz

Go Canes!

Well this will certainly help things over there:

BREAKING NEWS: GUNFIRE REPORTED IN TURKISH CAPITAL AMID REPORTS OF POSSIBLE MILITARY COUP

The Dude

^^^ Holy sh*t.

Ohio_Cane

USA backing a military coup in Turkey? Sounds like it.

Ohio_Cane

The Associated Press ‏@AP 25s26 seconds ago

Report: Turkish military releases statement, saying armed forces have 'fully seized control' of the country.

1mg of Epi

If you have a date Constantinople she'll be waiting in Istanbul.

Turkey is a NATO ally. Can't see the US backing a coup of an ally... Is that what the news is saying?

Ohio_Cane

Updates from Ariz:

3:35 - Can confirm that Jerry Jeudy is on campus. Expect a bunch of elite 2017-2018 kids to arrive shortly for the "Pool Party".

3:45 - 2019 Southridge ATH Diamante Howard wins MVP for the linebackers group.

3:55 - Some talk that CMR wants to make a "splash" later and dive into the pool. Haha

Forgot to mention earlier that I saw former Tampa Bay Bucs Super Bowl-winning QB Brad Johnson was in attendance earlier with his son Max Johnson (2020 QB). Freshman in HS with great size (6-2) and is a lefty. Throws a nice ball. Holds Miami offer.

4:45 - Palm Beach Gardens safety Amari Carter is on campus. Has been there for a few hours.

Lur-ker

I respectfully disagree.

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | July 15, 2016 at 03:46 PM

Thank you for respectfully disagreeing. It would be nice if you would also disagree with some substance.

There are no rigid class systems in western European democracies/republics that prevent economic advancement for those willing to work for it. Bottom line.

If anybody thinks there are, I'd like to see some examples.

Go Canes!

Ariz: Can confirm that Palm Beach Gardens safety and top Miami target Amari Carter is on campus. Big weekend for Canes with him

1mg of Epi

Epi | July 15, 2016 at 03:46 PM

Thank you for respectfully disagreeing. It would be nice if you would also disagree with some substance.

There are no rigid class systems in western European democracies/republics that prevent economic advancement for those willing to work for it. Bottom line.

If anybody thinks there are, I'd like to see some examples.

Posted by: Lur-ker | July 15, 2016 at 04:54 PM

Well, to begin with, immigrant neighborhoods in the mid
To early part of the 1900s, and especially after WW2, were built on the outskirts of cities, and the end of any lines of public transportation if they were connected at all. These areas are called banlieues, and are what we called ghettos. So the first think they did was isolate their Muslim populations geographically. As a result, the communities were isolated and so things like speaking the native language uncommon. The result is high unemployment, low wages, large police presence etc

Since the revolution, France has ascribed to universalism, which means all citizens are the same under the law. Sounds nice, but that means Muslim women can't wear headscarves to public schools. Muslim kids can't prey. So now you have a geographically isolated population, further isolated by their government disallowing practice of their religion.
So where do these kids go to school?

I could go on, but I would rather you learn on your own.

58 Straight

We don't need to change what America is out of fear.

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | July 15, 2016 at 03:26 PM

We need to change America, period. Fix the borders, deport those that pose a high risk, add more security and stop playing PC all the time. Whatever it takes, just DO IT.

Call it what you want and try to shame some by calling it out of "fear", but we need to change it out of wanting to stay alive and keep doing the normal daily things that we like to do. Like go to football games.

You know what it will take? It will be when somebody's son, daughter, wife or husband of somebody who is "important" in government gets hurt or killed by terrorists.

Then, and maybe only then, will they act. Once it gets "personal" then they will not see it as an "existential threat" any more but a real threat to their own lives and the American way of life in general as we know it. Please do NOT misinterpret, I am not wishing anything bad on ANYBODY, just keeping it real, that's all.

1mg of Epi

America has a slew of problems, and I totally agree there needs to be changes. But keep in mind, when we start deporting those who pose a "high risk", we will be deporting American born citizens. Since 9/11, only one immigrant has been involved w a terror plot.

The border needs to be sealed, but America and France are not in the same boat.

Go Canes!

Whatever issues France has, it sure as hell beats wherever the hell they came from.

All joking aside, your points are valid. However, the MO groups like ISIS use is to prey on and exploit the disenfranchised. Those people aren't hard to find no matter the opportunities or lack of that truly exist.

It's a bit of a needle in a haystack, which I understand. But there's a ton of low hanging fruit [San Bernadino and Orlando] that never should have slipped through the cracks.

The reasons they do in part, is because we currently can't use Islam as a tracking point, which is ludicrous.

That has to change, line yesterday.

RCCF

Lawrence Cager Knee....Out for the Season.

Best Wishes and Prayers

1mg of Epi

BTW Soup, regarding political correctness... I totally agree. And millennials are the absolute worst. I'm hoping that pendulum starts swinging in the other direction. Soon.

1mg of Epi

Go canes.. That's my point exactly. France has kept its Muslim community disenfranchised. It's a systemic problem. America has opened it doors to our Muslims and welcomed them just like we have everyone else. Our population is not economically or politically marginalized. Which is why we have relatively few problems.

My concern is that the rhetoric lately is not helpful and as islamaphobia become more pronounced, we isolate our Muslim Americans... Which makes them susceptible to terror. I'm not talking about political correctness by the way.

Lur-ker

Epi,

No offense, but that was really all over the place.

You reference stuff from 100 years ago, pre-ww1, and even the French Revolution from the 1700's.

I don't need to educate myself, you need to do educate yourself on modern France and Europe. If Muslims want to live in different and better neighborhoods in France, they are absolutely free to do so. There are educational and economic opportunities there for them to take if they choose to do so. They don't even have to live in big cities .

They don't choose to do so. They choose to live among themselves, and to even have their own sharia laws.

Or they can leave the country if they want. Freedom is a strange thing. You get choice. Sometimes people don't choose wisely. They have not chosen wisely.

1mg of Epi

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about lurker.

You are speaking in terms of hypotheticals. I am speaking I terms of reality.

Oh, and I appologize for giving you some historical perspective about a topic on which you have none.

Wait a minute.. You're telling me that they live in far flung ghettos because they choose too? Ok, that tells me all I need to know. I would prefer to limit our conversations to how good our defense was under D'no... At least that was funny.

The Dude

I'm not so suree this is a war that can be won within our current scope. I think we either need to form a coalition and break the backs of the Muslim world like we did Japan, or change ourselves and isolate again. Otherwise, they will continue to take advantage of our way of life.

The Dude

If I had to choose, I'd choose the later and fix our economy and education systems. My economic views are well known here, I'd like to see a Bernie Sanders style government, but I dont think that would be feasable with undocumented workers and America losing its identity. Let them have their civil war.

The Dude

With the Nice attack I think more people will see the fallacy of AWBs.

1mg of Epi

Mark In Atlanta... You're home from turkey I hope??

1mg of Epi

Dude... I don't think this war can be won in a conventional sense. The enemy is an idea, rather than a nation or a person. A military response no matter how successful just plays into narrative of the jihadis. Islam needs a reformation.

Our best hope is to let them kill each other off. The reality is that the vast majority of terror attacks are launched against other Muslims...

1mg of Epi

Dude... What's an AWB?

Arabs with bombs?

Lur-ker

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | July 15, 2016 at 05:57 PM

As usual with you, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Also I'm not speaking in hypotheticals, I'm speaking in terms of what the real situation is. Dispute one single thing I said specifically. You can't. Because everything I said is 100% true. I challenge anyone here to dispute anything I've said about Muslims in France and show me where it's not true.

They have access to becaoup social programs, social benefits and economic and educational opportunities. They just have to work for them.

If they choose to remain ensconced in 7th-century sharia law and medieval belief system, that's their choice. No one is forcing them to stay the way they are.

The problem is they reject Western society and its values, but choose to live in Western society. Their choice. But don't expect a helicopter to dump trillions of francs on their neighborhoods. They have access to resources. It's their choice to use or not use them.

1mg of Epi

Lurker.. It sounds like u googled "what type of political system does France have".

The geopolitics of Western Europe Is outside the scope of this blog. And certainly outside the scope your expertise... Whatever that might be. There is no reason to continue this debate.

Just Saying

I would of thought a "I respectfully disagree" post would of been enough, but that other guy wanted to keep it going is seems.

CaneRock

Taking apart religion, by inoculating the next generation against these DUM@$$ blueprints on how to live one's life, will have a devastating effect on terrorism.

The Dude

AWB= assault weapons ban

1mg of Epi

Ok.. Assault weapon ban. That's one of the freedoms I would hate to see us lose because of terrorists.

1mg of Epi

Just saying...you are right... One wouidve thought. But I take full responsibility, I know better.

NativeCane

America has a slew of problems, and I totally agree there needs to be changes. But keep in mind, when we start deporting those who pose a "high risk", we will be deporting American born citizens. Since 9/11, only one immigrant has been involved w a terror plot.

The border needs to be sealed, but America and France are not in the same boat.

Tsarnaev brothers and over a dozen more immigrants have plotted to kill our citizens.

NativeCane

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Sorry epi, meant to give you credit for first two paragraphs above.

1mg of Epi

Wasn't one tsarnaev brother born here and the other Russia?

CaneRock

Fact is, none ya'll got the answers...most of ya'll don't know how we got into this crap in the first place.

NativeCane

Tsarnaev were minors upon entry.

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