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January 05, 2017

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1mg of Epi

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Terrance Sullivan

Going to be a interesting month until Signing Day. Go Canes!

1mg of Epi

I saw them as well Epi, same tour at the old Miami arena.

Posted by: Go Canes! | January 05, 2017 at 09:21 PM

Great show.

In the same vein as phoebe cates' boobs... found myself watching weird science at work yesterday. Haven't seen the movie in 30 years, and it struck me that there's no way that story line gets the greenlite today.

Two teens create a woman for the sole purpose of objectifying her... can u imagine the hysterical hyperventilating fit the social justice warriors wouod throw?

1mg of Epi

Windy... Rumph seems to disprove the theory that a local HS coach will be able to recruit better than someone w no ties here.

That's not a know on Rumph.. he's done a great job coaching.

WWIN

Don't think he's proven himself yet Epi

TonyCane

Here's a complete breakdown of players who transferred out, did not qualify, and were removed from the Hurricanes within two seasons for each class:

2002:
QB Marc Guillon (4 stars) last year 2003
TE Curtis Justus (4 stars) last year 2003
DE John Wood (4 stars) last year 2002
DB Terrell Walden (4 stars) did not qualify
LB Nate Harris (4 stars) did not qualify
RB J.R Mounts (4 stars) did not qualify
LB Antonio Reynolds(3 stars) did not qualify


2003:
DE Alton Wright (3 stars) Last year 2004
LB Ali Highsmith (3 stars) did not qualify


2004:
RB Bobby Washington (4 stars) last year 2004
OL Tyler McMeans (5 stars) last year 2004
OL John St. Pierre (2 stars) last year 2005
DB Rashaun Jones (3 stars) last year 2005
DB Lovon Ponder (4 stars) last year 2005
LB Willie Williams (5 stars) last year 2005
OL Josh Kerr (2 stars) did not qualify
TE Cedric Hill (2 stars) did not qualify


2005:
None


2006:
WR George Robinson (2 stars) last season '06
DE Chris Lewis (3 stars) last season 2006
DT Chaz Washington (3 stars) last season '06
QB Daniel Stegall (2 stars) went to baseball


2007:
DB Doug Wiggins (4 stars) last season 2007
TE Dan Adderley (2 stars) last season 2008
RB Shawnbrey McNeal (3 stars)last season '08
DT Chris Perry (3 stars) last season 2008
QB Robert Marve (4 stars) last season 2008
WR Jermaine McKenzie (4 stars)last season 08


2008:
QB Taylor Cook (2 stars) last season 2008
LB Zach Kane (2 stars) last season 2008
LB Brandon Marti (2 stars) last season 2008
LB Gavin Hardin (3 stars) last season 2008
LB Antonio Harper (3 stars) last season 2008
QB Cannon Smith (3 stars) last season 2008
DB Joe Wylie (3 stars) last season 2008
WR Thearon Collier (3 stars) last season '09
LB Arthur Brown (5 stars) last season 2009
LB C.J. Odom (2 stars) did not qualify


2009:
TE Stephen Plein (2 stars) last season 2009
DB Jamal Reid (4 stars) last season 2009
DB Prince Kent (3 stars) did not qualify


2010:
LB Travis Williams (4 stars) last season '10
DT Jeffery Brown (2 stars) last season 2010
OL Jermaine Barton (3 stars) last season '10
DB Devont'a Davis (3 stars) last season '10
LB Kevin Nelson (3 stars) last season 2010
RB Storm Johnson (4 stars) last season 2010
RB Darion Hall (3 stars) last season 2011
DB Keion Payne (3 stars) last season 2011
DE Andrew Tallman (3 stars) last season 2011
DT Tavadis Glenn (4 stars) did not qualify
WR Jeremy Davis (3 stars) did not qualify
DT Delmar Taylor (3 stars) did not qualify


2011:
DE Jalen Grimble (4 stars) last season 2012
DB Thomas Finnie (3 stars) last season 2012
LB Eddie Johnson (3 stars) last season 2012
LB Gionni Paul (3 stars) last season 2012
DE Ricardo Williams (3 stars)last season '12
LB Antonio Kinard (3 stars) did not qualify
RB Kevin Grooms (3 stars) did not qualify


2012:
DT Jacoby Briscoe (3 stars) last season 2012
WR Jontavious Carter (3 stars)last season'12
DB Vernon Davis (3 stars) last season 2012
QB Preston Dewey (3 stars) last season 2012
RB Danny Dillard (3 stars) last season 2012
DT Dequan Ivery (3 stars) last season 2012
DE Gabriel Terry (3 stars) last season 2012
QB David Thompson (3 stars) last season 2012
LB Josh Witt (3 stars) last season 2012
WR Robert Lockhart (4 stars)last season 2012
LB Jawand Blue (3 stars) last season 2013
DB Nate Dortch (3 stars) last season 2013
DE Dwayne Hoilett (3 stars) last season 2013
DB Larry Hope (3 stars) last season 2013
WR Angelo Jean-Louis(4 stars)did not qualify


2013:
QB Kevin Olsen (4 stars) last season 2013
RB Ray Lewis III (3 stars) last season 2014
LB Devante Bond (3 stars) did not qualify
WR Derrick Griffin (4 stars) did not qualify
TE Ryheem Lockley (3 stars) did not qualify


2014:
DT Calvin Heurtelou (3 stars) last season 15
OL Joe Brown last season 2015
WR Tyre Brady (3 stars) last season 2015
LB Marques Gayot (3 stars) last season 2015
DT Michael Wyche (3 stars) last season 2015
LB Juwon Young (3 stars) last season 2015
OL Tyler Grimsley (2 stars) last season 2015
DB Kiy Hester (4 stars) did not play

2015:
None

2016:
WR Sam Bruce (4 stars) last season 2016

Bottom line - very high roster churn in 2009, 2010, 2013 and 2016 has played havoc with overall depth. It's really unbelievable how many attrition has taken place in the last ten years.

TonyCane

Great show.

In the same vein as phoebe cates' boobs... found myself watching weird science at work yesterday. Haven't seen the movie in 30 years, and it struck me that there's no way that story line gets the greenlite today.

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | January 05, 2017 at 11:26 PM

"He can't stay this way Lisa, It will spoil Christmas"

IraqiCane

LOL!!!

The Dude

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | January 05, 2017 at 11:26 PM

Just flip it and make it 2 teen girls make a dude. Hollywood eats that garbage up.

Go Canes!

This scene in Wierd Science is one of my all time favorites.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g9GBuciv20A

Go Canes!

Great list Tony. But I believe Wyche and Hurteleau both finished here. They were both Juco guys.

🐜🌀

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | January 05, 2017 at 10:29 P

ROTFL

UMike

Wasnt Wyche arrested or suspended, or both? I dont think he finished here

Go Canes!

Not sure UMike, think he was suspended.

Honestly dont remember for sure.

UMike

Me neither...just thought I remember him being arrested.

TonyCane

Yes, I forgot to add that in. I thought I excluded all of the JUCO players, but I feared I might have missed a couple

UMike

I think the bigger problem with that list is outside of a few none of those guys would of had an impact. McKenzie played alright for Memphis I think, Storm Johnson got burn at UCF and A. Brown tore it up for KState.

To me it singles how weak our classes are really been and how they were filled with quantity, not quality. More projects then impact players.

thirstybuzzardcane

NEW BLOG IS UP!

Posted by: HAPPY SOUP | January 05, 2017 at 11:24 PM


Thank You!!!

CaneRock

Wyche was arrested for domestic violence...kid sucked anyway.

UMike

kid sucked anyway.

Posted by: CaneRock | January 06, 2017 at 08:31 AM

But Ohio and Go assured us he was a hidden gem Golden found out west :)

Terrance Sullivan

Great job TonyCane. Spot on analysis UMike and CaneRock.

Terrance Sullivan

Basically Golden and Shannon whiffed big time on recruiting classes and ultimately combined with their lack of coaching put us in the position we are in. Can CMR fix it time will tell?

Go Canes!

Posted by: UMike | January 06, 2017 at 08:35 AM

Yeah I remember being all Wyche all day!!

CaneRock

Agree Terrance, Richt has a lot of ground to make up.

But the whiffing started with Coker, and every coach since has had to make up for His predecessors shortcomings.

The biggest whiffer was Shalala though.

Go Canes!

CMR has already fixed it.

CaneRock

In CFB, it's never fixed...especially when you get to the point where half or more of your roster consists of "3 & Dones".

UMike

lol Go... CMR has a track record as a good recruiter and the vast majority of the talent he will need is right here. Just think, if we get Cook instead of Yearby we are 11-1 maybe 12-0 this year with JUST his addition.

UMike

CMR has already fixed it.

Posted by: Go Canes! | January 06, 2017 at 09:29 AM

Is this being sarcastic?

Terrance Sullivan

Very true CaneRock

Go Canes!

In CFB, it's never fixed...especially when you get to the point where half or more of your roster consists of "3 & Dones".

Posted by: CaneRock | January 06, 2017 at 09:35 AM

So what's the best you can have? Credibility at the top, excellent assistants who can recruit and the best facilities you can.

CMR checks every box.

raizecane

Jedd Fisch to leave Michigan and become the OC at UCLA. I wouldn't mind having him back.

UMike

IMO, it is not fixed until we keep the elite, difference makers home. Cooper, Cook, Bridgewater, Jeudy etc. if you look through the list of top players, 247, Rivals260, ESPN300 etc. we have a very small amount of the South Florida, State of Miami players, very small amount.

Terrance Sullivan

Kirby Hocutt, and the Current Nebraska AD were the biggest whifs.

UMike

And not trying to knock CMR, this class has some talent... Donaldson might be a day 1 starter, Bandy is elite or close to, Dallas is a playmaker, and Garvin and Johnson will be beasts. But if we bring in Jeudy and one or two of the Plantation OL's its another level in this class.

I think its better, we have WAY less project players or "fill the spot" guys Golden loved, but I wouldnt call our recruiting "fixed" just yet.

CaneRock

So what's the best you can have? Credibility at the top, excellent assistants who can recruit and the best facilities you can.

Posted by: Go Canes! | January 06, 2017 at 09:39 AM

True. But even good ACs are hard to keep...and with all the mudslinging that goes on in recruiting, even a good character person like Richt can be made to look suspect.

CFB is just a different world.

CaneRock

Kirby Hocutt, and the Current Nebraska AD were the biggest whifs.

Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | January 06, 2017 at 09:50 AM

True.

Go Canes!

Posted by: UMike | January 06, 2017 at 09:47 AM

We can keep more than we are right now, that is for sure. But the days of cornering the SF market is going to be impossible to replicate.

Way too many teams down here recruiting, way too much player exposure, satellite camps, 7 on 7s and way too much TV so no kid is worried about being seen.

Not to mention bag men, street agents and the rest.

One or two more SF kids to this kind of class, with the national pulls CMR is already getting, is more than enough for this team to compete at an elitel level.

CaneRock

I feel ya' UMike, we have to consistently land that signature player(s) every recruiting cycle. I think we did it last year with Richards, and they did a great job of suring up the freshmen defensive ballas. And I really like our defensive class this year, but the offensive side needs a lil' more oomph.

UMike

Go Canes... I respectfully disagree. Your post almost comes across as we should just expect to not land ELITE local guys cause of all the competition. We dont need to "corner the SF market" necessarily, but we need to keep more of the program changing kids home. We could lose a Jamal Carter or Yearby type if we can get the Cook and Ridley types.

I don't want ALL the SF kids, but we need to keep the game changers home, or at least more of them. Bridgewater, Cook, Collins, Ridley etc, guys that take a program to the next level.

We were 11 points away from being 11-1, those elite players get us there or even 12-0.

UMike

CMR made a great point about WR recruits worrying about Kaaya leaving. They need to focus on who will be there QB their JR and SR years, not freshman and sophomore years,

Ohio_Cane

Big, but pretty much expected news from Ariz:

Junior college cornerback Jhavonte Dean is slated to visit Miami next weekend.

I just spoke with a family member of Dean's and asked if he thought a flip to Miami from Alabama was coming, and he responded, "he will, probably after his visit."

Miami is looking to add Dean to their defensive backs class, as Manny Diaz, Mike Rumph, and Ephraim Banda all having gone to see him before the dead period. He is currently in Miami and has been working out with 2018 Canes commit D.J. Ivey this week.

RCCF

2017 and somehow Shannon is still a topic..
Please go smoke a J or something..
Move On..
Beating an old horse for what??

Ohio_Cane

"Grey Stroke and 202 others liked your Tweet"

...and counting

RCCF

More Importantly who is this bum ass kid sitting on the U and throwing it down on my social media page...Derrick Nnadi??

Ohio_Cane

More Importantly who is this bum ass kid sitting on the U and throwing it down on my social media page...Derrick Nnadi??

Posted by: RCCF | January 06, 2017 at 10:28 AM
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Yes, and my response is what's being retweeted and liked like crazy. Was Al Blades Jr throwing up the U at mid field at Doak

thirstybuzzardcane

I love our new/old baseball uniforms! Great job Adidas.

https://twitter.com/CanesBaseball/status/817067212976562176

Go Canes!

Posted by: UMike | January 06, 2017 at 10:20 AM

We're saying the same thing UMIke I just stated it wrong.

I should have said one or two more elite SF kids instead of just one or two more kids.

My point is classes like this one as they are, with just a couple of local studs added is all we need to get where we want to go.

Go Canes!

The college football arms race is beginning to cause casualties.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-01-04/college-football-s-top-teams-are-built-on-crippling-debt

P.S. Epi is a jerk face.

Go Canes!

Not a recruiting guru by any means, I only really follow it around this time of year.

But it has to be good news when we arent hearing about CMR and company extending a lot of last minute offers right?

It would seem to me like they they're satisfied with the pieces they have in place at several different positions, especially the O-line.

Ohio_Cane

Well, it's the dead period, so there's much less activity that's public. Wait and see once it ends on Jan 12. But yes, Richt is going to take a bunch of projects who shouldn't be here.

Go Canes!

We have 22 commits already and it sounds like we are looking good for 3-4 more which would put us at 26 or so.

How can we have a bunch of projects on top of that?

UMike

I think Go had a Sheldon moment and missed the sarcasm lol

CaneRock

That Nnadi & Blades $h!t is childs play...nobody did it like Willie Williams on His trip to UF, now that's how you troll a rival.

Go Canes!

I think Go had a Sheldon moment and missed the sarcasm lol

Posted by: UMike | January 06, 2017 at 11:25 AM

He didn't even say bazinga after!!

1mg of Epi

The college football arms race is beginning to cause casualties.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-01-04/college-football-s-top-teams-are-built-on-crippling-debt

P.S. Epi is a jerk face.

Posted by: Go Canes! | January 06, 2017 at 10:39 AM

You didn't even read the damn article did ya?

I'll summarize: Cal had to spend hundreds of millions to earthquake proof the stadium, resulting in high debt service. The author used this as an example of sky rocketing costs of sports teams.

He then went on to say that other programs use debt to grow (like any business) and won't have any issues, so long as the TV contracts don't dry up.

SO.... you actually prover my point that 1) Football is and has been profitable. 2) you are the jerk.

1mg of Epi

This scene in Wierd Science is one of my all time favorites.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g9GBuciv20A

Posted by: Go Canes! | January 06, 2017 at 05:27 AM

This scene today would cause SJWs collective heads to implode.

1mg of Epi

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | January 05, 2017 at 11:26 PM

"He can't stay this way Lisa, It will spoil Christmas"
Posted by: TonyCane | January 06, 2017 at 01:30 AM

Lolol.

Ohio_Cane

I think Go had a Sheldon moment and missed the sarcasm lol

Posted by: UMike | January 06, 2017 at 11:25 AM
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It was actually a mis-type and was supposed to say Richt ISN'T going to take projects, but I am good for that kind of sarcasm once in a while. My bad.

Go Canes!

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | January 06, 2017 at 11:47 AM

Yes it is. But the bigger picture is if there's even a hiccup in future cash flow it or a large unexpected expense it could spell gigantic trouble for a lot of schools.


Go Canes!

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | January 06, 2017 at 12:10 PM Mm

Sarcasm?

No.

Nailed it.

Ohio_Cane

Shooting at FLL airport. Prayers to anyone who's there. Except the shooter. Hope they get killed.

BigWindyCane1

Per Porter of PBP: According to one all-encompassing efficiency metric, Football Outsiders’ “F+” rankings, the Hurricanes are No. 12 nationally. That’s third-best in the ACC, behind only Clemson (No. 2), which plays in the national championship Monday against Alabama, and Florida State (No. 7).

AfriCane

Anyone know how to get dental implants done for cheap?

The Dude

^^^ Mexico.

The Dude

Gibson decommitts.

Ohio_Cane

Andrew Ivins with 247:

I just want to start this off by saying that for the past few months I kept hinting that I wasn't sold on the reports that Billy Gibson was going to enroll early at Miami. I continued to hear that there was academic work on the table for him and that getting him into school for the spring semester was going to be a bit of a stretch.

With that being said, the Hurricanes coaches liked everything about Gibson as a prospect and he did indeed get the necessary test score to get into Miami, but then things started to change.

I was told by a source that Gibson, and his father, began flirting with Oregon and Miami told him that if he was having second thoughts, they were going to move in a different direction. That's basically what happened on Friday. I expect Miami to give some other defensive backs a look with Gibson now out of the picture. Again, they liked Gibson, but they weren't going to play the games.

1mg of Epi

Yes it is. But the bigger picture is if there's even a hiccup in future cash flow it or a large unexpected expense it could spell gigantic trouble for a lot of schools.


Posted by: Go Canes! | January 06, 2017 at 12:16 PM

Well then I propose a group prayer for a large fault to open up running from Gainesville to tally

CaneRock

Houston hires D'Onofrio as DC, give me a minute..............................................................................................................BWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAA!

CaneRock

BWAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!...tears.

raizecane

Shooting at FLL airport. Prayers to anyone who's there. Except the shooter. Hope they get killed.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | January 06, 2017 at 01:13 PM

*******************************

No such luck. It looks like he is in custody.

1mg of Epi

Houston hired D'no!!

Well I hope they enjoyed that good season they had.

Ohio_Cane

No such luck. It looks like he is in custody.
Posted by: raizecane | January 06, 2017 at 03:28 PM
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There's more shooter(s)...

HerbieIbis

Tyler McMeans was a Jucco and Tony u for got about rb Andrew Johnson who left and went to Pitt.
Gibson leaves so what, he was 3, so we find another 3 to take his place. 3's are C'S, which means they are average at this point in their careers but this also doesn't mean with good coaching they can't develop into 4's and 5's.
A lot of defensive players were on those list Tony posted, no wonder we have constantly have low numbers on that side of the ball.

HerbieIbis

Richt being his own oc is probably saving the u more money plus he could offer more money to his assistants. Don't like him as oc, to conservative at times and doesn't have a killer instinct. Only time will tell and if we start a greenhorn next year he will really put the clamps down.

CaneRock

Richt being his own oc is probably saving the u more money plus he could offer more money to his assistants.

Posted by: HerbieIbis | January 06, 2017 at 03:53 PM

Orrrrr, He probably doesn't have enough money to hire an OC because we're paying that crook Folden.

Go Canes!

He's OC cause he wants to be OC.

We played great football on both sides of the ball the entire second half of the season and won every game easily.

Imagine what will happen when he gets his type of offensive line here.

Herbieibis

The defense played great all Year and the oh was up and down and that goes for the last 5 games and I would never say were great but efficient.

Go Canes!

Posted by: Herbieibis | January 06, 2017 at 06:35 PM

We put up 37 a game over our last five. All against ACC opponents then the 15th ranked team in the country.

If that's just efficient, I'll take 13-14 efficient games next year.

RCCF

U know it's a shift in things when I say

Go Canes! - U have been making good sense for a good while now.. Hey U are alright with me Bigly.. I no longer view U as a Golden Troll....

nemo2002

Gibson leaves so what, he was 3, so we find another 3 to take his place. 3's are C'S, . . .
Posted by: HerbieIbis | January 06, 2017 at 03:40 PM

Yeah. STARS MATTER but 3's not so much.

Go Canes!

Just stop with your 3 star nonsense. Please.

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/1246M

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/6

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/8570

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/14276

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2322

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/5999


Go Canes!

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/8570

The Dude

Young was a 3 star too and he's been rock solid.

The Dude

^^^ under the radar 3 star that hasnt gotten the praise other freshman have. Will likely start next year, and looks like he's got a bunch of talent.

The Dude

^^^ Not under the radar, I meant underrated.

The Dude

JaQuan Johnson was a 3 star I think he's been a great player.

The Dude

Garvin is a 3 star but should be a 4.

The Dude

Both McCloud and Pinkney as 3 stars had better freshmen years than 5 star Matthew Thomas at FSU.

The Dude

<----- Stars still matter though.

thirstybuzzardcane

I think the reason a lot of these recruits get 3 stars instead of 4 has to do with there size. Pickney and McCloud weren't your typical 225lb linebacker coming out of high school.

BigWindyCane1

Jaquan Johnson was one of the best defensive leaders and DBs I have seen in the area over the last four years. JJ will lead the defense next season, get at least 5 or more interceptions and be among the top 3 Canes in tackles. He will score at least one defensive TD. Vault it!

Herbieibis

Go Canes u bro are a hopeless romantic. We should have beaten those last 5 teams, it wasn't like they were world beaters. Where were we at when we played a little comp, losing 4 in a row! Stars do matter, how do u think Bama, OSU FSU and a few others stay at or near the top, it's because they are loaded 3 deep with 4 and 5 star players not with a bunch of 3's and a few 4's. Saban's good but he ain't that good, without all those studs. We need to be somewhere near 13 to 14 four star players to get us over the hump and another thing, we have to fill positions up so we have depth every year we have at least 2 positions that we are rail thin at. We have a dam good defensive staff, finally! I still am not sure of the offense yet.

Go Canes!

I was here when we those games. All of them tough as hell to take.

What's the point?

Team's can't get better?

Is USC the same team that started the season 1-3?

Down the stretch we beat an NC State team that lost at the last minute to FSU and in OT to Clemson.

We pummeled a Pitt team that beat Penn State and Clemson.

We beat a West Virginia team ranked 15th.

Pretty much all by blowout btw.

We got much better as the season progressed.

Your star obsession doesn't allow you to see any of that.

CaneRock

Imagine what will happen when he gets his type of offensive line here.

Posted by: Go Canes! | January 06, 2017 at 05:59 PM

LOL...the same type of offensive line that "played great football the entire second half of the season and won every game easily"?

CaneRock

All this arguing about *s, and I only see one (Njoku) 3* that balled on offense.

Why?

TonyCane

Agreed Herbi!

HAPPY SOUP

Go Canes... go to time out.

U are so predictable, boring and obnoxious.

HAPPY SOUP

Here is an interview with Go Canes:

SOUP: Go Canes please tell me the three weakest areas that the Canes need to improve on in 2017?

GO: The Canes have no weaknesses.

SOUP: So what do the Canes do to get better?

GO: They cannot get any better they beat Bama.

SOUP: Uh, the Canes did not play Bama?

GO: Well if they did they would beat them!

OK, thanks for that...

Ohio_Cane

Whyche was a beast at JUCO. U saw the tape. Not his fault he was in D'no's scheme. That, and getting in trouble didn't help.

Terrance Sullivan

For the Recruiting Peeps on here how many guys can we sign in this class now? Can we sign about 30 guys? I am including early enrolies.

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