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February 08, 2017

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Old Skool

Good Article Soup

Old Skool

That worm is awful tasty

nemo2002

3 4 U

86Cane

That worm is awful tasty

Posted by: Old Skool | February 08, 2017 at 05:40 AM

Tees it up and...

86Cane

LOVE THIS:

"They’re not just fast guys that happen to play football. They’re football players who happened to be fast.”

86Cane

TOO GOOD TO LEAVE BEHIND...

Miami Hurricanes total number of four and five star players annually:

2006: 46 (7-6)
2007: 42 (5-7)
2008: 42 (7-6)
2009: 41 (9-3)
2010: 39 (7-6)
2011: 28 (6-6)
2012: 21 (7-5)
2013: 22 (9-3)
2014: 25 (6-7)
2015: 28 (8-5)
2016: 27 (9-4)
2017: 31

On paper this will be the strongest team overall this decade, and for the first time since 2010 we will have more than thirty players on the roster with four and five stars. Furthermore, at the moment I believe that only five players ranked at four or five stars would automatically depart after next season (Gerald Willis, Braxton Berrios, KC McDermott, Trevor Darling, and Braxton Berrios). An additional nine would depart after the 2018 season.

If Richt can have recruiting classes as strong or stronger in 2018 and 2019, very quickly we are looking at a team that is now on par with Florida State and keeping pace with Clemson, meanwhile further building on the gap with the rest of the Coastal. The numbers are now in our favor - the inverse of the situation that we faced in 2011 and 2012. Wonderful to see.

Posted by: TonyCane | February 08, 2017 at 01:27 AM

UMike

meanwhile further building on the gap with the rest of the Coastal.

Posted by: TonyCane | February 08, 2017 at 01:27 AM

Love that are numbers are better, but having a talent gap in the Coastal hasnt got us anywhere lol... We need to match those numbers with play calling.

Go Canes!

Is it just me or is the hype surrounding Perry starting to turn him into something a little bit larger than life?

Got no problem with pressure or comparisons but in the last two days I've seen it written where he's the next deshaun Watson or Lamar Jackson.

Let him throw a college pass first and truth be told I'd be very happy with him having a year like Francois had for now.

UMike

Wouldnt surprise me one bit to see Rosier or Weldon start day 1. Going to be interesting.

1mg Of epi

Go...
I agree. But we shall see what people think of him after his first bad game.

30CINCO

Miami Hurricanes coaches excited about offensive line signees

http://caneswatch.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2017/02/07/miami-hurricanes-coaches-excited-about-offensive-line-signees/

86Cane

Crow to Jones for 6.

thirstybuzzardcane

That Smith Kid at Safety and That Jennings Kid at Linebacker are True Football Players. One More Good Class at DB, WR and DT.

Posted by: Coolmac758 | February 07, 2017 at 09:56 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if Smith ends up at linebacker. The kid is physically imposing right now as a high school kid. The frame he has, he could easily put on a lot more weight.

Go Canes!

Love that are numbers are better, but having a talent gap in the Coastal hasnt got us anywhere lol... We need to match those numbers with play calling.

Posted by: UMike | February 08, 2017 at 08:29 AM

Final 5 games of the season for the Canes:

5 wins, zero losses

Avg PF: 37
Avg PA: 18

Avg yds gained: 466
Avg yds allowed: 331

Our offense finished the year off as well as anyone's.

A slow start against WVU doesn't change the big picture.

raizecane

I see Negative UMike is at it again..... haha

86Cane

Go Canes = Cherry Picker

1mg Of epi

Our offense finished the year off as well as anyone's.

A slow start against WVU doesn't change the big picture.

Posted by: Go Canes! | February 08, 2017 at 09:25 AM

Hopefully OC richt now has what he needs to run his O. 2017 will Mark our return to relevance if he does.

Go Canes!

Posted by: 86Cane | February 08, 2017 at 09:59 AM

Five consecutive games to end the season is cherrypicking.

Ok.

Go Canes!

Casual fans.

Smh...

Go Canes!

Posted by: 1mg Of epi | February 08, 2017 at 10:07 AM

With Linder, McDermott, Darling, Sunny health and a ton of talent coming in I can't see how we dont solve our O-line issues.

Defense will be frightening.

Difference between good and great is going to come down to the guy under center imo.

We'll see.

1mg Of epi

Yup. The QB will be key as usual. Interesting to see whether or not we miss BK.

86Cane

Five consecutive games to end the season is cherry picking?

Posted by: Go Canes! | February 08, 2017 at 10:11 AM

Yes, it is.

I do not have the time nor the inclination to explain my self to a person who sleeps under the blanket of freedom that my blog provides and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I'd rather you just say "Thank You" and go on your merry way.

Buy we did that with a good to above average QB. Imagine what we could do with a GREAT QB?

86Cane

Casual fans.

Posted by: Go Canes! | February 08, 2017 at 10:12 AM

Wake me up when we beat FSU AND win our division of the ACC AND win an ACC title.

#CasualFansUnite

#NapTime

UMike

I see Negative UMike is at it again..... haha

Posted by: raizecane | February 08, 2017 at 09:49 AM

Or stating facts. I said the talent gap in the coastal hasnt helped us. We have won 0 Coastal Division titles..how is that negative?

We looked great the last 5 weeks against teams we should of beat, I think if that type of play mixed with out talent is there all season we will win the Coastal easily.

86Cane

Where RCCF at? 12% club for life!

raizecane

Where RCCF at? 12% club for life!

Posted by: 86Cane | February 08, 2017 at 11:27 AM

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he is currently at 13%

Go Canes!

There goes that word should again.

The ever sliding criteria for what that is constantly changes.

UMike

So Pitt, UVA, Duke, NC State & WVU aren't teams Miami SHOULD beat? We should expect losses to those teams?

Herbieibis

With u UMike, hell no we shouldn't lose to those bums and it's about time we didn't lose a game to a team that shouldn't be on the field with us. Oh, I forgot we did lose to UNC.

Go Canes!

Posted by: UMike | February 08, 2017 at 11:58 AM

What's the determining factor? Stars? Depth of roster? Quality wins?

Pitt was playing great football. They beat Penn State and Clemson this year.

And WV was ranked what, 13th?

So no we shouldn't have beaten Pitt or WV. But we played great and won.

For this program, right now, should is a tough word to use.

UMike

I respectfully disagree. Miami should never be in a position to worry about Pitt...and according to you WVU was way overrated since they lost to the only good teams they played. You called for a blowout. So IMO, we should have won those 5 games.

UMike

The determining factor is we are Miami, I would assume we have had higher ranked recruiting classes then all those teams the last 4 years or so.

We have just lowered our standards so much after over a decade of being mediocre.

UMike

I think the only 2 games that werent a "should win" were FSU and VT... IMO.

UMike

thankfully we have a much better schedule next year. Just have to wonder how far we can go with a rookie QB.

Go Canes!

Like I said if we have more "stars" we should win but if they're bad like the Irish then we should have won.

If they have less stars but develop guys and play well we underachieved.

The should have line moves so that we should basically win every game but one every year.

Miami hasn't been Miami for a long, long time. So five straight and quality wins should be seen as such and not something we "should have" done.

nemo2002

Just have to wonder how far we can go with a rookie QB.

Posted by: UMike | February 08, 2017 at 01:13 PM

Definitely, a major concern.

raizecane

Definitely, a major concern.

Posted by: nemo2002 | February 08, 2017 at 01:28 PM

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just give me a QB that has the physical ability to tuck and run for 9 yards on a 3rd and 5 when there is a blitz or all WR's are covered so we can keep the drive alive....

Terrance Sullivan

Give me a much improved offensive line and I am good. U can be Randle Cunningham but if your line suck U ain't winning Jack.

TruCane81

^^^^^^^^^^

This.

Go Canes!

Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | February 08, 2017 at 01:50 PM

💯

CGNC

Nice article 86

CGNC


thankfully we have a much better schedule next year. Just have to wonder how far we can go with a rookie QB.

Posted by: UMike | February 08, 2017 at 01:13 PM

That FSU game comes up quick this year

raizecane

Give me a much improved offensive line and I am good. U can be Randle Cunningham but if your line suck U ain't winning Jack.

Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | February 08, 2017 at 01:50 PM

It's easier to fix 1 then 5. And a mobile QB can hid offensive line woes

His Royal Dudeness

Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | February 08, 2017 at 01:50 PM

People forget how Mike Vick used to lead the league in sacks.

His Royal Dudeness

I dont think N'kosi will start game 1, and I hope he doesnt so he can get a redshirt and get to 205 pounds. My hope is that Rosier has gone into complete warrior mode and is obsessively focused right now, giving Richt zero options at QB. I hope that Jack is seeing that and is following suit giving us a serious backup QB option.

CaneRock

LOL @ throwing the OL under the bus...some of y'all believe everything the coaches tell y'all.

Again, we finished 5-0 minus 2-3 OL starters, so OL wasn't the problem to begin with.

TonyCane

I hope Mullins is in similar warrior mode. Would love to see a four wide receiver set with him, Richards, Berrios, and Cager.

TruCane81

People forget how Mike Vick used to lead the league in sacks.

Posted by: The Dude | February 08, 2017 at 02:41 PM

Yep, holding the ball to long, not trusting what he sees.

It's hard to find an explosive athlete like that with the patience to go through his progression and make a good decision.

CaneRock

"Now, it is one thing to sign what we judge to be elite classes based on high school performances and projections. It is quite another to deliver on the vast potential that schools bring in on an annual basis. This is where the Tigers have done an exceptional job, and it is a big reason why they won their 2016 national championship.

Their hit rate on top-level recruits has been stellar. Every player the Tigers absolutely needed to work out at the top of their class did, either immediately or down the line. Go back to 2009: No. 1 recruit Tajh Boyd helped put down the groundwork for the current Clemson program. His would have been a tough miss to take.

No doubt, there were a few misses sprinkled in between, including a mostly underwhelming 2012 class, but the hit rate with the top recruits between 2013 and 2016 is undeniable. Those classes specifically are the biggest reasons Clemson finished No. 1 this past season."

CaneRock

^^^^^^^^Continued

"2013: Mackensie Alexander, Ben Boulware

2014: Deshaun Watson, Artavis Scott

2015: Mitch Hyatt, Deon Cain, Christian Wilkins

2016: Dexter Lawrence

Clemson's 2016 national championship team featured 13 starters who were ranked in either the ESPN 150 or ESPN 300. The 2015 Clemson playoff team had 11 starters with similar designations.

There are always going to be players who do not work out; there will be injuries and attrition with every class. But Clemson has been able to keep that attrition in check with its most recent classes. Between 2013 and 2016, only eight players left the team because of dismissal, injury or the decision to transfer. The 2013 class in particular highlights how well Clemson not only recruited but also developed its talent. The Tigers had the No. 13 class in the country, but if they were re-ranked, they surely would be higher.

Not only did Alexander and Boulware lead that 2013 class, but Dorian O'Daniel, Tyrone Crowder, Mike Williams, Shaq Lawson, Jordan Leggett, Wayne Gallman, Jayron Kearse, T.J. Green, Ryan Carter, Cordrea Tankersley and Jadar Johnson also became starters. Clemson missed on ESPN 300 prospects Tyshon Dye (transfer), Ebenezer Ogundeko (dismissed) and Kyrin Priester (dismissed), but the losses were easily outweighed by the overall production of this talented class.

For comparison's sake, Georgia has signed a better class than Clemson in each of the past four years. But the Bulldogs’ hit rate at the top of their class is comparatively low, especially with the class of 2013, in which three of their top four recruits either transferred or were dismissed."

http://www.espn.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/98160/clemson-reached-championship-level-thanks-to-its-recruiting-hits

TruCane81

LOL @ throwing the OL under the bus...some of y'all believe everything the coaches tell y'all.

Again, we finished 5-0 minus 2-3 OL starters, so OL wasn't the problem to begin with.

Posted by: CaneRock | February 08, 2017 at 02:46 P


True, CR, but our guys got whipped one on one too often against talented opponents.

We won't argue the reason for those failures because that mess we saw on display in 2016 has an all of the above answer.

However, improved play as a unit will go further to help us than anything else.

Line plays well, all we need is a qb that protects the ball and we get the coastal, acc berth, 10 wins and a bowl win, our base expectation for the year.
To help us

30CINCO

Erick Marrero:

Update on Lorenzo Lingered
CanesInSight.com has confirmed that Lorenzo Lingard is on campus ---- I reported over an hour ago that there was a BIG time 2018 recruit on campus this morning, and it was indeed about Lorenzo Lingard. I was told to keep it on the low

Update
It's down to Miami and Clemson according to a very close source to Lingard.

Many are wondering why Lingard took an unofficial visit to Miami on a Wednesday?? Here's why
- He wanted to get a feel for the campus during a school day. I'm hearing he's loving the visit and the Miami coaches are trying to seal the deal.

His Royal Dudeness

Mark Pope: Welcome to The U!

Ohio_Cane

Mark Pope: Welcome to The U!

Posted by: The Dude | February 08, 2017 at 04:14 PM
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Uhh, wut?

Ohio_Cane

He committed to the Army game...

Letter of Intent

Posted by: 30CINCO | February 08, 2017 at 03:44 PM

Seel what deal?

Gene Chizik

Uh can I get some credit? Me and Mark go eat back.

Bud Foster On Thursday night 4 days off the second loss in a row in two weeks.

I did a pretty good job blitzing the human statute, right?

Jimbo Fisher

You act like this is the first time you ever lost to FSpoo

His Royal Dudeness

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | February 08, 2017 at 04:16 PM

Must have misread... dont blame me, I was driving at the time.

30CINCO

Matt Porter @mattyports
Random Miami 2016 stat:
Most snaps in a game

CB Corn Elder, 89 (of 89), UNC 10/15
S Rayshawn Jenkins, 87, UNC
MLB Shaq Quarterman, 86, UNC

Matt Porter @mattyports
That defense played five days later at Virginia Tech (missing 3 injured starters). Only game of the year Miami D looked gassed

RCCF

12% is Never Changing to Anything Else!!

No Worries..

30CINCO

Scouting report: Analyzing Miami Hurricanes’ 2017 signing class

http://caneswatch.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2017/02/07/miami-hurricanes-scouting-report-recruiting-analysis-2017-class/

Bud Foster

Posted by: 30CINCO | February 08, 2017 at 05:23 PM

As I was saying

86Cane

So Pitt, UVA, Duke, NC State & WVU aren't teams Miami SHOULD beat? We should expect losses to those teams?

Posted by: UMike | February 08, 2017 at 11:58 AM

Tell them KIDDO!

Herbieibis

Scouting report was spot on but The Herb could of told u the same thing. The db's are an absolute must in the 2018 class as is a couple top level dt's and at least one top tier Rb of the 2 we will need to bring in. The same could be said of the te's and at least another top shelf lb.

BigWindyCane1

Canes men basketball winning against Virginia Tech, 40-34 at halftime.

1mg Of epi

The should have line moves so that we should basically win every game but one every year.

Miami hasn't been Miami for a long, long time. So five straight and quality wins should be seen as such and not something we "should have" done.

Posted by: Go Canes! | February 08, 2017 at 01:18 PM

But most years Miami should've won all but 1 game each year. We haven't been miami for 16 yesrs, but our talent has always been top 20. Always.

I don't think the line has moved. It's just best the teams who have less talent. They haven't done that since 2002.

CaneRock

Packers cut Shields.

Honey Dicking 4 Life

Spin,spin.

Should beat based on talent and coaching
BCC
Toledo
ASU
Duke
Gtech
Syracuse
Virgins
Pitt

None of the above posses the coaching staff nor the talent to consistently beat Miami.

UNC and Vatech talent wise the gap is not as big but the coaching(especially defense) is on par with what we have in place at the U. Given one is at home and one is away we should beat Vatech so a win there will help with winning the coastal but they are not a New Years Six team. A win against UNC on the road is not the same as beating tech on the road so no cigar there either.

FSU and Norte Dame both have had more success recruiting the last 4 years. In terms of coaching Jumbo has a ship, played in the BSC, made the playoffs and ba k to back New Years Six. A win on the road there would be program changing. Chip Kelly and his staff. I think we can agree will all take Mark Richt but and the big but ND spends the correct amount of coin to be relevant. A win at home should be expected albeit by 2 point or less.

So to summarize, given talent and coaching we should start winning 10 games a season. As long as its the right 10 games you could be talking New Years Six. Until we get that number from 31 to 41 4 or 5 stars in addition with upgrade to facilities and an elite O.C. we won't be in the playoff unless we get lucky. Same can be said with an 8-4 season and being
unlucky.

BigWindyCane1

Canes men basketball winning against Virginia tech, 62-49 with 8:06 left in second half

BigWindyCane1

Canes beat Virginia Tech. Canes are 16-7. Next game Saturday at Louisville

Stephen Morris

Is it just me or is Trevor Noah my look a like, ijs.

His Royal Dudeness

Posted by: Herbieibis | February 08, 2017 at 09:36 PM

2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 OL, 2 DT, 1 DE, 2 LB, 2 CB, 2 DB.

17 Needs.

His Royal Dudeness

15 of which need to be 4 stars.

His Royal Dudeness

TC can probably tell us what that means as far as the numbers go. My guess is just shy of 40 4s & 5s.

His Royal Dudeness

When the '16 kids are seniors, we're gonna be trouble for most. Have to keep the defensive staff intact.

Go Canes!

Posted by: 1mg Of epi | February 08, 2017 at 10:04 PM

Have we? With transfers, dismissals, injuries and the rest have we really had Top 20 talent for years?

Didn't Tony post recently that we got about zero from an entire recruiting class?

Imo we haven't even close imo.

You just can't with 60-70 scholarship guys.

Have we been heavy with good players at the top? Yes.

Have we had the depth and quality of players on this roster for the last 6-7 years to say we've been Top 20 year in and out.

No.

Schools like Michigan State, VT and others may have had fewer stars, but there is still a lot to be said with having your backup at a ton of positions be a redshirt junior instead of a freshman.

TonyCane

Honey, it's all incoming vs outgoing. We saw such a sharp drop off in 2011 and 2012 because:

1) Heavy attrition early on out of the 2010 signing class
2) The 2011 signing class completely fell apart as Miami's 2010 season collapsed. When Shannon left we had two recruits left

In order to keep numbers on par, Golden would have had to nailed Top 5 recruiting classes in 2011 and 2012. Both were virtually impossible to do each of those years for various reasons.

Fast forward to now. The amount of four and five star talent leaving each year is considerably smaller. If Richt can secure a Top 10 class in 2018 and 2019, then very quickly we will go from 31 to 40 four and five star players.

TonyCane

Overall depth has been a challenge too. 2009 and 2016 were the low points, with Miami's roster being exceptionally thin last year. Again, heavy attrition is to blame. I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I believe over half of the 2012 class was gone within two years. A third of the 2010 class was out within 12 months. This cannot happen under Richt.

86Cane

Tony...good comments. Bring the facts!

Go Canes!

Is it September yet?

https://twitter.com/canesfootball/status/829696849112137728

Terrance Sullivan

Outstanding work Brother Nero. Keep it up Yesssss.

1mg Of epi

Posted by: Go Canes! | February 09, 2017 at 07:04 AM

I disagree. Also.. im talking historically since 2002, not specifically about 2016.

The bottom of our rosters have not been less talented than the bottom of UVA or anyone else in our division. The top has been more talented than everyone. The problem has been coaching. A DC letting the same Short TE cross give up 10 yards time after time, or an OC thinking he's playing Madden and calling bomb after bomb etc etc.

If we played top 20 teams every week I would agree that we didn't have the depth to hang. We don't.. We play in the ACC-C and have over the last 15 years developed a habit of losing to basketball schools.

Terrance Sullivan

2003 was the last great team we had. When you go 11-2 win Orange Bowl Championship, BIG East Championship, Win State Championship and finish in Top 5 you had a great year. Now since that time we have been either sub-par, mediocre, good since joining the ACC on July 1St 2004 to begin the 2004 season.So we have been either one of the three things in the last 13 years. In this 14th season of Canes football as members of the ACC. Let's Be Great Again. Go Canes!

Go Canes!

Posted by: 1mg Of epi | February 09, 2017 at 10:30 am

Agree all three of the previous regimes greatly contributed to their own demise.

This is the first one I've seen that's adapted and finished strong rather than sputtering to ends ranging from embarrassing to outright humiliating.

Just my cherry picking two cents.

30CINCO

5 Returning Players Who Must Fend Off Incoming Freshmen with Strong Spring

http://www.stateoftheu.com/2017/2/9/14529236/5-returning-players-who-must-fend-off-incoming-freshmen-with-strong-spring-miami-hurricanes-football

raizecane

How long before baby Kiff gets fired at FAU for sleeping with co-eds???

1mg Of epi

This is the first one I've seen that's adapted and finished strong rather than sputtering to ends ranging from embarrassing to outright humiliating.

Just my cherry picking two cents.

Posted by: Go Canes! | February 09, 2017 at 10:50 AM

I agree. u picked the right cherries that time.

CaneRock

03' sucked.

All that talent we had on that squad, and we only scored 30 points in a 3 game stretch where we went 1-2.

CaneRock

Should've let Butch name His successor in 01'.

Go Canes!

Posted by: CaneRock | February 09, 2017 at 01:23 PM

If they didn't hate him when he left with the heat of a thousand suns they might have.

BigWindyCane1

Spring football will be interesting this year because there will be a lot of legitimate position battles. There will be a lot of competition at every position, including QB. I would say of the 22 starting positions on the team, only three positions on offense and two positions on defense where the starter is clear. All other positions will be earned in the spring and summer camps. Some battles will likely persist throughout the season, as some players improve while others decline.

RB Walton, TE (Herndon) and WR (Richards) are set as starters. The other positions on offense are still unsettled. I think no one is completely safe on the OL, and QB will be very competitive (Although I think it is Rosier's to lose, at lease for the start of the season). The fullback/HB position is open and the other starting WR positions are also open to competition with Berrios, Richards, Smith, Harley and others.

On defense, the front seven starters are probably set. It all starts up front, and for the first time the Canes have two legitimate All ACC DTs (thanks Coach Kul) Norton and McIntosh, with Willis and Moten and others backing them up. This is a good group. DE is Chad Thomas, with Joe Jackson probably the starter over toolbox Trent Harris. Quarterman is also safe, as is probably Pinkney. Zach McCloud came on strong at the end of the year and should start, but he will be pushed by the new linebackers coming in.

Jaquan Johnson should start at safety, but every other position in the secondary is up for open competition, although I have my thoughts on who might emerge.

Good programs are built on competition, and the Cans have plenty of that this spring.

Ohio_Cane

If all goes the way it's looking right now, we'll be getting a commitment from the #2 RB in the country in Lorenzo Lingard.

Ohio_Cane

Today ^^^^

SinisterCane

GO CANEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1mg Of epi

If all goes the way it's looking right now, we'll be getting a commitment from the #2 RB in the country in Lorenzo Lingard.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | February 09, 2017 at 04:08 PM

That'll be a big relief to be able to count on him signing up w us.

Ohio_Cane

Oh, it'll be a big battle to keep him committed for a full year, but committing now would be HUGE. Especially if he's out there recruiting for us.

1mg Of epi

I know I was just playin

Go Canes!

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