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March 07, 2017

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VfB_Cane

First? Really?

Who knew the insomniac crew would be asleep at this hour ...

Old Skool

Asleep. How about reading other things?

nemo2002

Me three.

VfB_Cane

How about reading other things?

Posted by: Old Skool | March 07, 2017 at 05:13 AM

Like any other addict, I keep coming back for more.

Hassan

FiF

30CINCO

UM safety Rayshawn Jenkins impresses on final day of NFL Scouting Combine

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/college/acc/university-of-miami/article136799438.html#storylink=cpy

Old Skool

Even the crickets are in a coma

NativeCane

Crickets in a coma are doing better than that charred Octopuss!

Dem Canes!!!

1mg Of epi

If I were Richt it would go like this:


Posted by: 86Cane | March 06, 2017 at 09:34 PM

Your misdirections no longer work. Weknow

CGNC

Happy Tuesday party people.

Go Canes

Go Canes!

Just got the news.

Crickets woke up, proceeded to die of boredom after waiting for posts on blog.

Dude (Operating Insomniac Level 7)

Posted by: 1mg Of epi | March 07, 2017 at 11:46 AM

Truth.

Old Skool

Crickets in a coma are doing better than that charred Octopuss!

Dem Canes!!!

Posted by: NativeCane

That's true. Of course, when you eat crickets, they don't stick to the roof of your mouth.

nemo2002

SLOW POST DAY

Hey WWIN, tell us again why stars don't matter. We all need a good laugh!

raizecane

Hey WWIN, tell us again why stars don't matter. We all need a good laugh!

Posted by: nemo2002 | March 07, 2017 at 07:09 PM

***************************

Poking the badger .....

WWIN

😂😂😂😂😂😂!!!

86Cane

Your misdirections no longer work. Weknow

Posted by: 1mg Of epi | March 07, 2017 at 11:46 AM

Drats, spoiled again.

86Cane

Or is it foiled again? Who cares.

#CrowToJonesFor6

#KirbyTattooU

#RichtForPresident

WWIN

My thing is this...

Give me good players not stars... in saying that I'm saying look at the player and not his star ranking. For example... Pat Surtain and Tyler Campbell. Surtain is a 5☆ and ranked #1 CB in the nation and Campbell is a 4☆...but I would take Campbell over Surtain all day and a lot of people would...but should we take Surtain just bcuz he's a 5☆??? And I'd take Jobe over plenty of 5☆'s!

Who would you rather have Hightower or Pope? Yeah I love both of em but if you could only have one who you going with?

Herbieibis

WWin
I don't know about u but The Herb says give me some star power, like we're hauling in now. We've tried the other way with a bunch of 3's and some 4's here and there and what had that got us? A majority of the teams that have played and won the ship have a whole lot of star power and the key word I used was Majority.

1mg Of epi

WW...

Your argument against Stars consists only of making a case for one elite high star carrier being better than another elite high star carrier.

U disproved your own point.

1mg Of epi

What Willy meant to say:

Stars don't matter. As long as the player has at least 4 of them.

BigWindyCane1

Aubrey Hill hired by FIU to be their WR coach. Florida, then Miami under Shannon. Following the Shapiro scandal, he went to coach at Carol City. Now, with a state championship for the Chiefs, Hill is back coaching FBS college football with Butch. Hill knows South Florida and did a great job for CAROL City, getting them back to a championship level. Hill can't compete in recruiting against the U, but he will recruit well and I will be surprised if FIU doesn't become a powerhouse in the Sun Belt Conference

BigWindyCane1

The draw of coming back to UM for one more season? Kaaya says he believes the Hurricanes could have competed for a National Championship.


“I thought about it, but this was an opportunity I have dreamed about since I was six years old,” Kaaya said at the NFL Combine in Indianapolis. “I think I could have won a National Championship and Conference Championship if I stayed at Miami, but it is the ultimate dream of mine to play in a Super Bowl.”

BigWindyCane1

“I think Miami will be in good hands,” Kaaya said. “We won our first bowl game in ten years and we finished with a five game winning streak and that hadn’t been done since 2001. Coach Richt will have them on the right track soon. I think next season they will be a playoff contender.

WWIN

Posted by: Herbieibis | March 07, 2017 at 08:22 PM

Y'all not getting it! SMH

I'm saying NOBODY is setting out to get all 3☆ players! As a COACH... would you look at player and SEE that he’s good but his star ranking is a 3☆ so you say well never mind kid my eyes must have lied to me lol! We didn't win with Golden The Herb cuz we didn't have a COACH! Lol

Do y'all honestly think college COACHES look at ☆ rankings over film and live evaluations. I can guarantee CMR don't give a damn about ☆ rankings... he cares about if you can play or not!

86Cane

I can guarantee CMR don't give a damn about ☆ rankings... he cares about if you can play or not!

Posted by: WWIN | March 07, 2017 at 10:07 PM

Crap, I am screwed.

Stars and hype is all I got.

My performance is all smoke and mirrors.

WWIN

Posted by: 1mg Of epi | March 07, 2017 at 08:27 PM

5☆ #1 CB in the COUNTRY is a BIG difference to a 4☆!

But anyways... look at our 2016 class... where were they ranked? Now tell me who had a better class than that??? What about a player like Gurvan...not highly ranked but dude is a BEAST!

WWIN

If Rumph wants to give a player a scholarship he has to get the approval from CMR first...you think CMR asks what's his ranking or let me see his film???

86Cane

You think CMR asks what's his ranking or let me see his film???

Posted by: WWIN | March 07, 2017 at 11:43 PM

A. Lets see the film?

B. How many stars does he have?

C. Are there any character issues?

D. How is his work ethic and motor?

E. All of the above?

Old Skool

If I remember correctly Coker was a star-gazer. That why he went after turf-face

Go Canes!

Kyle Wright was the consensus #1 player in the country as a senior.

He had a damn fine freshman year here then began to slowly regress year after year in large part because of the weight of continued horrible coaching.

TruCane81

Hell yeah that was during Recievergeddon.

I grew up with Lance Leggett. He was a skinny kid who turned into a freakish and I do mean freak athlete. I threw him the sickest no look alley oop in a pick up game while he was running behind me. Sportscenter worthy.

His dad was a local track coach and good guy who kept him in line. I was surprised he struggled at the U but the attention of his rapid transition to a big time prospect went to his head a little.

He probably saw things in Coker's program that turned him off, considering the type of program
We grew up in. I still thought it was no excuse for his antics.

Not developing big time prospects like Wright and Leggett was the beginning of the end and cost us some serious title shots. We would be counting rings on both hands with better recruiting and team management. I really liked Coker before, but some guys are coordinators, and that's their ceiling.

TonyCane

I cant speak to the coaching, but the primary reason why Kyle Wright regressed was lack of surrounding talent. For whatever reason, Coker could not recruit wide receivers. You cannot sign 1 wide receiver in two recruiting cycles and think that you can overcome attrition. Wright started his tenure with Miami with a corp that included Andre Johnson, Roscoe Parish, Sinorice Moss, and 5 star recruit Ryan Moore. By 2006, he was playing with a Lance Leggett, Darnell Jenkins, Khalil Jones, and a young San Shields. Remember punter Monroe? Or the corner Hill? Coker had to convert them to wide receivers because we didn't have sufficient depth after Ryan Moore was suspended. If you look at the roster at the time, you will also see a very high number of walk ons too. Miami had less talent in 2006 and 2007 at that position than at any time since the 1970s. Its why Kyle went down...as the talent attrited away, so did his ability to score.

Ohio_Cane

Who would you rather have Hightower or Pope? Yeah I love both of em but if you could only have one who you going with?

Posted by: WWIN | March 07, 2017 at 07:59 PM
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Pope

CoCane

Ryan Moore was still there in 2006. The depth was ugly but... Moore 5*, Leggett 5* Jenkins 4* and Olsen at TE. If K. Wright and that core of skill players were developed properly they would have killed sh*t.

It should have went like this:

Moore a big physical possession target. Leggett stretching the field with his speed and height to go over the top. Jenkins in the slot. Olsen hitting the seams and flats. Wright orchestrating the symphony with a Death Star for a arm and the mobility to escape pressure and extend plays... Who knows? Maybe with good coaching Jones could've been a half way decent #4 reciever...

:-(

Wasted!

Go Canes!

Posted by: CoCane | March 08, 2017 at 09:11 AM

💯

Hassan

My take on the new QB Committ.

I checked his film and A few pluses and a few minuses.

1. The kid is huge, already a college ready body. This is a big difference from other signal callers like a Jack Allison who still is not as big as this kid, and Perry who needs 12-18 months in the weight room to take the pounding of ACC defenses.

2. Despite being such a big kid he has a tight compact delivery, often times long limb guys will have a wind up like a baseball pitcher, but his football is tucked close to the ear and he keeps his elbow tight, this allows for a quicker more consistent platform.

3. He is a better athlete the Kaaya, he is not quite Andrew Luck but not like a 99 Dan Marino or a 14 Kaaya.

4. Had a good internal clock, his makes his drop hits his backfoot and Boom ball is out, time after time step step step backfoot boom ball is out. I can tell he has been coached up and IMG and summer camp tours will help him improve.

The Minuses are

1. He needs better footwork, his weight transfer is very inconsistent, sometimes throwing off his backfoot sometimes while weight on on his front foot.

2, Despite his size he does not appear to have a howitzer. His arm is comparable to Kaaya's it looks to be fine for college but it is not elite. The kid gets more on his throws when his weight transfer is correct. With better footwork and more development I think he can squeeze a lil more out of that arm.

3. Did not see tons of off speed or touch throws. Like many HS level QB's 95% of his throws are one speed. At the college game he will have to learn to modify his throwing platform at times and modulate his speed on throws.

Overall I like him as a prospect, he is a kid with the size and ability you want. I think 4 star is about right for him, with our current QB depth he would likely RS. This kid with another summer of QB camps, a year more of HS ball and a RS year is two years from playing any snaps for us and I suspect under Richt this kid would really improve and have a chance to be an all conference type of QB. Another quality pick up for us I look forward to seeing him develop.

1mg Of epi

Do y'all honestly think college COACHES look at ☆ rankings over film and live evaluations. I can guarantee CMR don't give a damn about ☆ rankings... he cares about if you can play or not!

Posted by: WWIN | March 07, 2017 at 10:07 PM

Nowadays there is a very very strong correlation between starts and success. You won't find very many instances of poorly regarded players ending up game changers.

Does cmr ask how many stars a player has? No. But I guarantee you that if his evaluations ran consistently counter to the star system, we would have a disaster on our hands.

Hassan

The eval process has become a lot better.

In the past at all levels people would fall in love with Measurable s. You saw a lot of HT/WT/Speed guys rated at 5 stars based only on those things. Now the film eval's have become a lot better. For 1 things the Films themselves are a lot better. In the past films were incomplete, basically just high lights. Now the different evals have much better quality and complete tape as well as Camp eval's, real testing done, and live game eval's. Much more through and complete Eval's are being done and the people writing the eval's have become much more experienced and better. Now it is just really the late bloomers that a program can get on early before other teams notice. There are kids that grow 4-5 inches between jr and sr year. or put on 40 lbs, or switch schools or positions and a light comes on, or they dont start til their SR year etc. It is those late bloomers that schools can still find diamonds in the rough. This is why staying in the coaches offices and asking not just about the stars on the team but other players is very important. The local coaches can let us know when they have a guy that is going to blow up on the recruiting scene before others really catch on.

Go Canes!

I think stars are obviously important, though individual ratings are at times heavily influenced by outside forces.

Been said here countless times that once a kid commits to a big time program with heavy subscription rates, sites like rivals will often give them a bump. On the other hand guys like Joe Jackson and Garvin who just commit and stay quiet are often overlooked.

Dude (Operating Insomniac Level 7)

^^^ Russell. Kid is a 3 star but hits like a wrecking ball and is very fast. Ive been saying if you watch his film, you wouldnt let your kid play football.

Dude (Operating Insomniac Level 7)

Posted by: CoCane | March 08, 2017 at 09:11 AM

And Hester lined up at RB & WR...

Go Canes!

Game time!

Go Canes!!!

86Cane

Hassan...very nice work on the blog my friend.

Buy using the word "modulate" will cost you five minutes in the penalty box for a major infraction. You can't use word like modulate on a sports blog.

Rule 21, page 6, section 4 article 7.

Ohio_Cane

Rule 21, page 6, section 4 article 7.

Posted by: 86Cane | March 08, 2017 at 12:41 PM
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Terrance Sullivan

Bol haha

TruCane81

3. He is a better athlete the Kaaya, he is not quite Andrew Luck but not like a 99 Dan Marino or a 14 Kaaya.


Post achilles tear Dan Marino is the slowest human being in the history of man and mankind.

If you get compared to that while healthy, you really or rockin the cinder block cleats.

Old Skool

Hassan looks like you and 86 need to confabulate

Old Skool

57 -55 Miami 40 seconds left in game

Old Skool

59-57 13 seconds left

TruCane81

The eval process has become a lot better.
Posted by: Hassan | March 08, 2017 at 11:22 AM

THIS.

Noone goes under the radar anymore. Only way to miss is if a kid completely shuns the camp/tournament circuit and plays on a really bad team. Barring injury that is.

What makes recruiting a crap shoot is you don't always know how close a player is to his personal ceiling. Also, it can be hard to predict if they will adapt well to the rigors of elite college training.

Kids are still growing and at different rates at that. Always lots of surprises at every level in both directions when it comes to who will transition successfully.

Go Canes!

Very nice win for our boys.

Who's next??

Old Skool

Miami's gonna win 62 -57 1 second left. Brown comes up big at end with rebound and pair of free throws

30CINCO

Nice win baby!

TruCane81

And Hester lined up at RB & WR...

Posted by: Dude (Operating Insomniac Level 7) | March 08, 2017 at 11:53 AM


Hester on defense was the dumbest shit ever.

They thought they would teach him to be Deion. Lol

Go Canes!

Beat those grade fixing cheaters!!!!

Final in Brooklyn: Miami 62, Syracuse 57. The Hurricanes move on to face No. 1 seed North Carolina in the quarterfinals tomorrow at noon.

Ohio_Cane

Big win. Now on to UNCheaters

Dude (Operating Insomniac Level 7)

Posted by: TruCane81 | March 08, 2017 at 02:14 PM

Kids that fast, with those moves, need the ball in their hands. Its fine if you think he's a CB, but if that's the case, kid is getting snaps on both sides of the ball constantly. Hester should have gotten 20 touches a game. He should have been used like Reggie Bush.

Dude (Operating Insomniac Level 7)

^^^ A huge red flag was Tyrone Moss. He got fat and lazy as if that ever should have been an option. Sol wanted to take his playing time away, but Coker wasnt having it. When an all time great CF position coach tells you to sit a kid, you sit a kid. Those teams had enough talent to beat anyone. Their HC though didnt hold anyone accountable and didnt motivate players to reach their maximum potential. Its not a matter of nice guy vs hard ass. Its a matter of effort and results.

Jerry

Nice win today. Newton with 1 turnover. Kid got his head out of his behind today. Survive and Advance. We needed at least one in the ACC and got it. Coach L overdelivering this year....as usual.

TonyCane

That was a factor. I remember in Coker's last year that he yelled out in a meeting, "No more fat running backs!"

Wide receiver talent on paper may have seemed adequate, but it was paper thin. Leggett missed three games in 2006, Moore missed seven. We didn't have any depth to support normal injury attrition. The only way things would have been better is if Hester and Moss had returned for their senior years.

thirstybuzzardcane

Nice win today. Newton with 1 turnover. Kid got his head out of his behind today. Survive and Advance. We needed at least one in the ACC and got it. Coach L overdelivering this year....as usual.

Posted by: Jerry | March 08, 2017 at 02:56 PM


We had it after that Virginia win! This tourney means nothing, just maybe a little better seeding in March Madness

BigWindyCane1

Both Newton and Murphy had their best game of the season. If they continue to play like this, the Canes have an opportunity to make some noise in the ACC tournament and also in the NCAA tournament

Go Canes!

Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | March 08, 2017 at 04:10 PM

It's more than that.

nemo2002

Hey Cuz, say bye to the 'Cuze.

TruCane81

Tyrone Moss was the biggest dissappointment to me from that era. I thought he would beast it up.

Well he was a beast, at the buffet anyway.

CaneRock

I think what WWIN's trying to say, is all 5,4, & 3*s are not the same. Forget His name, but look at the 3* kid from CC they gave the cold shoulder, once they realized Harley was a balla despite His size.

CaneRock

And Marlon Mack, He was a 3*...no way in hell that kid couldn't help us last year.

Ohio_Cane

Anyone from the blog near Clearwater that would be familiar with a treatment facility named Operation Par? Friend of mine went there and needs to find a councelor/doctor/psychologist that treated him a few years ago. It's a French name that he doesn't know how to spell. First name is Sanis or something of the sort.

Any help appreciated

WWIN

Posted by: CaneRock | March 08, 2017 at 07:44 PM

Yep!

I'm just saying get players that CAN PLAY... don't give a damn if that's a 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5☆! If they can play take em if not keep it moving! If they so happen to be 4☆ and 5☆ players good! South Florida players are different than ANY where else!

TonyCane

Good story about Magic Benton

http://www.news-press.com/story/news/2015/07/14/magic-benton-daughter-cleft-lip-palate-miami-hurricanes-florida-firecats-ymca-director/30144909/?from=global&sessionKey=&autologin=

1mg Of epi

I'm just saying get players that CAN PLAY... don't give a damn if that's a 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5☆! If they can play take em if not keep it moving! If they so happen to be 4☆ and 5☆ players good! South Florida players are different than ANY where else!

Posted by: WWIN | March 08, 2017 at 08:35 PM

From a statistical standpoint, you're much better off going by star ranking. You don't have to give a damn about stars, but it's rare that a player exceeds his star ranking.

CaneRock

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Jerry

Noon vs North Carolina. Don't expect to win, but our zone gave them fits in the last game.

CaneRock

Ohio_Cane...TP won't let me post the link, but Google "Suboxone Drug Rehab Doctors in Clearwater, FL", and you should get a directory of detox doctors in that area. Hopefully one of those names will ring a bell.

CaneRock

Epi...I hear ya', but I'm talking along the lines of comparing players with similar * ratings. Big difference between a 5* Cook, & a 5* Yearby.

And frankly, I don't think *s matter that much at the QB position. The Denver Broncos had 2 Florida kids that weren't even 5*s combined coming outta HS.

1mg Of epi

Awfully quiet here for 2am

raizecane

Happy TBT.......

raizecane

Is this thing on??

Old Skool

Lot of echo today

Go Canes!

Posted by: raizecane | March 09, 2017 at 09:40 AM

Only misery loves company?

Hassan

From TOS

Had a chance to chat with Brown about the team, and one thing the staff is extremely excited about is the team speed this year.. They feel Richards and Homer are two of the fastest field players they have had a chance to be around, that includes at UGA.. Dallas is faster than expected, and we still have Thomas and Harley coming, which he said they were absolutely thrilled to have both, and they are one of the reasons Richt wants to establish some pre-snap motion to get their speed more involved.. Braxton Berrios mentioned as a player to watch for this season, one of the hardest workers on the team, and pound for pound one of the strongest,also 40 inch Vertical.. One of the biggest takeaways, they want to get the speed back on special teams returns(thank you lord), Homer, Harley, Thomas, and Young will get the early looks at kickoff returns, Dallas also mentioned as someone to watch on punts and KR. Heading into last spring they were almost in panic mode he said, not having many offensive weapons was a huge concern, Thinks this season will be the most talented speed and athleticism wise in his coaching career.. Overall you can see and feel the excitement, it isnt a fake type excitement either, its a confident and comfortable excitement, one that you can tell they feel we have the horses finally. Just wanted to share that quick hitter update...Also Walton as you guys know is going through an extremely tough time, they have given him the option to miss some of spring practice if he wants..Just dont want anyone to wonder if he isnt mentioned often..They are leaving it up to him..

CaneRock

Speed is good & all, but we also need to exploit the middle of the field with Herndon and/or Haskins.

And I'll let the season tell the story, but hopefully we don't miss the luxury of having a big back like Gus.

Hassan

Irvin has sneaky athletic ability. His body was a lil heavy and not lean when he first came in but despite that he has good agility, he is not going to WOW you in the 40 but he can get open and has very good hands like his dad.

Go Canes!

And we need someone who can consistently deliver them the ball.

We can't be the shiniest car on the lot with no gas to move it.

86Cane

I am pretty sure that the car will be shiny and fast and full of gas but the REAL question is who is going to drive it (QB)?

Dude (Operating Insomniac Level 7)

Posted by: CaneRock | March 09, 2017 at 11:09 AM

Walton can get the tough yards, it just means Homer will have to take other carries.

CaneRock

I guess it comes down to a strong running game, and how Richt manages the QB situation...because we definitely have a 10 or more win D. And STs shouldn't see a drop from last season.

Dude (Operating Insomniac Level 7)

^^^ I hope Walton doesnt take too long. This should be his last year in Coral Gables. Im looking for 1,500 and 15 TDs out of him.

Dude (Operating Insomniac Level 7)

Posted by: 86Cane | March 09, 2017 at 11:49 AM

I have full faith in whoever it is at this point. We dont need anyone to play like Kaaya, fire hot/freezing cold. Just play steady, make the easy throws to open WRs. 1 thing they do need to do like Kaaya is dont throw ints.

Dude (Operating Insomniac Level 7)

All we need is Jacory Harris' Senior year. Just solid play and we win the Coastal & 10 games.

Terrance Sullivan

Lol when our Offensive Line do it's job and if they do their job for the whole season and not for 2/3 of the season we will dominate. Period point blank.

Dude (Operating Insomniac Level 7)

Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | March 09, 2017 at 12:03 PM

I think the OL is going to have a really good year. I expect the older guys like McDermott and Darling to be really good, they have to or they'll get passed up.

CaneRock

UM vs UNC on ESPN.

Old Skool

22-18 UNC 7:08 left in the first

Old Skool

Brown with 8, Reed 5, Murphy 3 Lawrence and Newton... just watching

86Cane

Miami was looking good early vs UNC.

Fading now with UNC up 9.

thirstybuzzardcane

We need to start driving to the hoop

Ohio_Cane

We are just tough to watch sometimes...

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