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December 08, 2017

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thirstybuzzardcane

First!

SinisterCane

Go Horsemen!!!

KYcane

If I was a recruit, having the coach of the year sitting in my living room would be pretty awesome.

BigWindyCane1

Great and well-deserved honor for CMR!

Terrance Sullivan

Yes Sir KYcane!

86Cane

If I was Coach Richt I would be bringing My COTY Award with me to meet with recruits. I would say something like: "This award is nice and all but the real trophy we want to win at Miami is the National Championship trophy. Together I think we can do that. Winning the COTY honor is great but we are only as good as the players on the field. We need players like you to compete at the highest level and win it all. What do you say, do you want to help us win a National Championship at Miami?"

Gin & Tonic

Posted by: 86Cane | December 08, 2017 at 10:47 AM

Well said.

That will work.

Go Canes!!

Clemson is freaking stacked:

Number of Seniors on the CFB Playoff teams rosters:

Georgia - 31
Oklahoma - 22
Alabama - 21
Clemson - 6

Terrance Sullivan

Go Canes and look at who has the most Seniors Georgia who recruited and coached them for 2 or 3 years at UGA our Coach Coach Richt. Yesssss indeed Clemson is stacked and we will have to deal with them for a number of years to come.

1mg of Epi

Hopefully a lot of those underclass men will leave

Go Canes!!

Cristobal gets tg full time gig at Oregon.

That’s good for us, won’t be joining Taggart.

raizecane


That’s good for us, won’t be joining Taggart.


Posted by: Go Canes!! | December 08, 2017 at 11:31 AM

*********************************

was just about to say the same thing.....
harder to pull a kid from Miami to duckland then it is trailerhasse.

BigWindyCane1

If I was a recruit, having the coach of the year sitting in my living room would be pretty awesome.

Posted by: KYcane | December 08, 2017 at 09:34 AM

I agree 100%. CF Playoff team, UGA, is stacked with his recruits (Chubb, Michel, etc.), and his current team has gone from 9-4 and its first bowl win for UM in ten years, all in his first year. Then, the Canes go 10-2, Coastal Division Champion and the Orange Bowl berth in his second year.

That is progress, and recruits and coaches not only have a potential college coach who makes promises, they have a coach who can (and has) delivered.

Terrance Sullivan

Preach Big Windy!

TonyCane

I was asked this today by a coworker who is from Oregon after I told him that this is the first elite level recruiting class that Miami has garnered in ten years....he was surprised and asked why wouldn't Florida high school players want to come to Miami? From 2007 onward to last year, what would you say we're the primary drivers?

I kinda listed it as:
1. Shapiro and his NCAA friends
2. Antiquated player facilities
3. Threadbare athletic dep budget - no nutritionist etc
4. Poor player development, particularly under Shannon.

What else would you throw in there? When you think about it, there really is no reason why Miami should not have Top 10 classes each year. Beautiful campus, rich tradition, and fairly high national profile.

86Cane

Most outsiders have traditionally also sited poor fan base/support and no on campus stadium like some college towns have. But that was before this past year. the Stadium is AWESOME and well, you saw what this fan base can do when we are winning.

The selling points have always the National exposure, 5 NCs, TV coverage of big games, great weather/location, private school/smaller classes (for those that care) and that Miami was the best "Pipeline to the Pros".

1mg of Epi

Tony...

A lot of the elite kids weren't even recruited by us under Al. It was very easy to negative recruit against us when we were running the D'no defense

I'm not a recruiting guy but I clearly recall people upset about the s fla kids we weren't even offering.

RCCF

Gotta love how ppl never waste time to make Shannon the scapegoat when his kids who are pro are the best in the league...

Leave Shannon out of it or learn the history...
Golden produced the WORST players by far yet whenever we talk demise we always blame a CANE

I blame fans more than anything Miami fans are Fairweather as Hell

Go Canes!!

Posted by: RCCF | December 08, 2017 at 04:02 PM


What?

86Cane

1. Leave Shannon out of it or learn the history.

2. Golden produced the WORST players by far yet whenever we talk demise we always blame a CANE.

Posted by: RCCF | December 08, 2017 at 04:02 PM

1. Revisionist history will not help you here. Shannon deserves much of the blame whether you like it or not. Those are just the #FACTS.

2. Golden was by far worse than Shannon, I will grant you that point. But both of them, and in his final two years Coker also, they all share blame, with Golden the most to blame.

RCCF

Why do ppl point to Shannon the Cane when we wanna talk about how we are failing and where our failing started? It's amazing that a fanbase that blames their own Family on their demise doesn't understand how a kid wouldn't want to play for said Fans... pretty easy math.

RCCF

1. Shannon does NOT deserve blame he just happened to be coaching during our dark hours and he was against all the shenanigans hence why the Rat had him fired. Admins were not gonna choose a Football coach with a not so stellar record over a guy writing Million dollar checks....Randy had his hands tied the entire time and you know that 86. You can't blame someone who was a puppet.
2. Thats why you're my boy Blue!! lol

Terrance Sullivan

LMAO at Shannon doesnt deserve any blame. As Soup says the last 2 years of Coker, Shannon and Golden tenure were under achieving period point blank and anyone saying otherwise is full of horse manure.

Go Canes!!

1. Leave Shannon out of it or learn the history.

Posted by: RCCF | December 08, 2017 at 04:02 PM

Hee hee

with Golden the most to blame.

Posted by: 86Cane | December 08, 2017 at 04:45 PM

Haa haa

86Cane

RCCF...don't go delusional on us bruh. Keep it real.

VA Cane

Epi let me help Birthday Brother....AlPa and...NoDPa....!!!! Assclowns...how these people got jobs I will never know...they don't know much about the game!!
My favorite Pa of all time is CGNCPa!!! SHE would be a great coach!!! Got to Love her!!!!

I think Coker was put in a bad position; great OC had great talent...not a HC at all. It was wrong to put him in...the players were great...they liked him...those kids were kids who did not know.I met Coker one time...he was a very nice man..treated people very kind...he was too kind to be a HC.
RS was much in the same boat; good DC...not a good HC at all...not meant to be. Onions biggest problem was his negative attitude, very bitter man about his life...I am sorry his sucked...but that gave him no right to be an asshole...He was a big one!! He is too much of a bitter person to really coach; discipline is very important...I am hard on my guys i expect the best in all things...life family school...then football...but RS was unbearable. Good DC!!

Golden sucked from the start!!!Winning at Temple is one thing...righting the ship at a once proud repeat NC with legendary coachs, players and history. AlPa was the worst ever without a doubt....as was No DPa!!!

Lets be glad all that is water under the bridge....CMR has changed the culture....not sure we are really really back to the HS-JJ-DE and even Butch (he was handcuffed but great recruiter) days....but we are a good team with a bright future...he IS the coach of the year no doubt!! I think he needs a GOOD OC...he is not a good one....and I do not know that he can win a NC...he may be a step in the process...it may take him to find his successor who is more aggressive...but I must say I really looked forward to the games more this year than any year since the Fiesta fiasco!! I was little disappointed in the Pitt game....and expected Clemson to whip our AZZ...they did....going for that FG instead of 7 bothers me.....thats my only concern with CMR...great guy....too nice to laid back...smokes good shit and loves Jesus...I love Jesus too....but on Saturday I expect Hit Hate Hurt....I pray for forgiveness on Sunday!

CaneRock

Blame Shalala, notice things have gotten better after She left.

Sarasota 'cane

Blame Shalala, notice things have gotten better after She left.

Posted by: CaneRock | December 08, 2017 at 06:58 PM

True dat! Not only did she stifle the program directly, she spent so much money on money losing bad bets for the school that she was moving the ACC paychecks to cover the losses. I have no doubt she had a positive impact on enrollments and school rankings, but she is one of the biggest reasons the football team was down for as long as it was before Richt got here IMO. The AD's before Blake James got here didn't help either.

Go 'canes!!

Terrance Sullivan

Bad AD's we're the biggest problem. Period Point Blank.

1mg of Epi

Gotta love how ppl never waste time to make Shannon the scapegoat when his kids who are pro are the best in the league...

Leave Shannon out of it or learn the history...
Golden produced the WORST players by far yet whenever we talk demise we always blame a CANE

I blame fans more than anything Miami fans are Fairweather as Hell

Posted by: RCCF | December 08, 2017 at 04:02 PM


Randy Shannon is and always will be a Florida Gator. F him and F you for sullying my eyes by forcing me to read his name. (note: Not Tsullying.That's different)

TonyCane

Here's my thoughts on the two of them:

SHANNON:
Pros:
- Good person who sought to keep players out of trouble
- Good developer of talent when defensive coordinator
- He wasn't involved with Shapiro. Had he been in on it, we would have been in far worst trouble

Cons:
- Badly damaged relationships with South Florida high school coaches
- An automaton. No emotion on the sidelines for a program known for celebrations. His teams eventually took on his character
- School administrator kept him on a threadbare budget. That reflected itself in the questionable hires of his assistants, and manifested itself in a truly disasterous bowl game against California that featured the worst clock management that I have ever seen in any level of football.
- His players (as a HC) generally got worse as their careers progressed. For many of the 2008 class, their best performances came as freshmen - which I attribute to his staff

One other thing - and this has always stuck with me. Sometime in late 2009 or early 2010 I remember reading on Canespace the opinion of a pro scout about the Hurricanes - he said that they were the worst coached team in college football.

Intangibles: We'll never know how Randy would have performed had he had a budget equivalent to what Miami is now giving Richt. Shalala - who I will give credit for to not bowing to media pressure in 2006 and not sacrificing players or cancelling the season after the FIU fight - simply would not spend right as a college football arms race was heating up, and we fell way behind the times as a result.

GOLDEN:
Pros:
- Brought the program at least partially into the modern era. There was no nutrition program under Shannon - players were eating once a day in some cases, and at McDonalds. Golden was able to get the funding to change that. Established multiple camps.
- Recruited hard, and I don't think he gets enough credit for that. Whereas Shannon would accept a verbal and take the high school player at his word and stop aggressively recruiting, Golden was relentless. He may not have been able to secure elite classes, but recruiting would have been far worse had he not gone to the efforts that he had
- Seemed to really care for his players. The scene that always stuck out to me was his concern for Malcolm Lewis. Not many other coaches would rush out onto the field like Golden did. I suspect that Saban would have shrugged, stepped over the kid if he was on the sideline, or become annoyed if the injury delayed the game too long. Showing up to support Artie Burns after his mother died - just days after he was fired - showed his character.

Cons:
- Wedded to an outdated philosophy, and a defensive scheme that simply did not go with Miami players. He refused to change to meet the personnel on hand, and to take advantage of what he had on hand
- Mediocre to terrible half time adjustments
- Presided over the worst defenses in school history, and refused to change
- Tried to leverage the Miami job for Penn State, and we never forgot that. Shannon was a Cane for life. Golden was a Cane until the Lions position became open

Intangibles: The Shapiro scandal likely prevented Golden from landing an elite level class in 2012 and possibly 2013. He felt compelled to take a lot of changes in his first two classes and saw an incredible amount of roster churn, leaving him with a very, very thin roster in 2013 and 2014. Had Shapiro not happened he might have been able to win at least of the FSU games. Maybe.

Go Canes!!

Don’t think it’s a coincidence things started getting better the minute the money from Adidas and that new massive TV contract started flowing in.

1mg of Epi

Blame Shalala, notice things have gotten better after She left.

Posted by: CaneRock | December 08, 2017 at 06:58 PM

When given a choice, ALWAYS choose the university president who comes with topless glamour shots.

Always.

Go Canes!!

And as far as ranking the three prior coaches, the answer is easily and indesupitedly decided by answering one simple question.

Of the three, who left the program in better or if you like "less worse" condition than when he got hired.

One took over a national champion, a potential dynasty, and turned it into a national joke.

One left the team under NCAA investigation, with countless bridges burned among local high school coaches and an out of shape roster virtually devoid of playmakers.

The third guided us through the worst thing this program had faced since Butch. The day he got fired he left us a roster that while limited in size, was full of talent, playmakers and commits that are the foundation of where we are today.

Unfortunately, he was a stubborn, arrogant catastrophe when the team took the field. Did a ton of good for us, he just had no idea what to do with the team Saturdays.

So which was the best of the bad?

Terrance Sullivan

Go Canes Bingo.

1mg of Epi

Having a hard time giving Al credit for getting us thru anything. He had the job when the cloud came, and continued to do it while it hung around. He took a pay raise during the investigation, and tried to get another job shortly after that.

He tried to jump ship, but because he was a shit coach nobody wanted him. He did what any other coach would've done. Nothing more.

Go Canes!!

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 08, 2017 at 10:21 PM

A cloud I'm sure you would have been fine not being told about.

A raise I'm sure you would have turned down.

A job at your alma mater I'm sure you would have had no interested in.

86Cane

Randy Shannon is a Gator.

Let that sink in for a while and marinate.

RCCF

Shannon lost relationships with HS's because he wasn't taking the bag...Im not saying he was a Good HC or would/could be one, but again some of his boys have said as much on my FB page and I believe them. They played we watch..

Winning would've solved all but when the bag is flowing and the coach ain't with it it causes a bad mix. Coaches revolt (under table pay) Players revolt (Promises to Play n Get Paid) but Shannon said Hell No I'm not playing your $ Boyz! And he did his damnest not to play them and we lost games. It is what it is, but I believe the players..

RCCF

Yet folks wanted Cristobal back and Butch who both shit'd on the U, Randy just demanded Hush $$ and folks hate him for it. The biggest key to our Ponzi investigation said Nothing! That is a TRUE CANE U Betta Put Respek on his CANE think of the damage he could've done had he said what he saw or knew, but all we know, and say is and ALL Agree "Randy was totally against Rat and didn't allow him near Players or near the practices", Admins put Rat around the Players, Boosters, Fellow Ponzi members be mad at them, Randy was just the guy driving the hoopty!

RCCF

Let That Sink In...

-From the Players For the Fans

86Cane

Randy Shannon is a Gator.

Let that sink in for a while and marinate.

Posted by: 86Cane | December 08, 2017 at 10:47 PM

I rest my case.

Hassan

I got paid by coke & Pepsi but since Pepsi paid me last I got to go with Pepsi...Taste better

86Cane

Hassy...GFYS!

You think I would start a Gator blog to make $$$?

Or wear a Gator Shirt to church?

I would DIE first!

VA Cane

All 3 men did some good....but none ofthem had a plan for all that matters on the field:Winning. winning is the goal....winning very often, competing for NCs....I do not know that we will win one under CMR....but we are going to be in the mix the next few years....He has got to get an OC and an aggressive offensive attack philosophy.
Look forward to a good bowl game!!!!

86Cane

I have walked into the harshest environments in stadiums in this Country wearing CANES gear. I would NEVER change that or compromise that.

Would you rip of your stars and stripes and wear Afghani gear or fight for them? Or Iraqi Gear or fight for them? If so we need to talk. If not STFU!

1mg of Epi

A job at your alma mater I'm sure you would have had no interested in.

Posted by: Go Canes!! | December 08, 2017 at 10:45 PM

Still waiting for what he did that any other coach wouldn't have. Any coach would've responded the same way, so I don't know what we are crediting him for.

If u wanna say he tooo over the worst situation, therefore randy is the worst coach, I'm ok with that. But al wasn'some savior that u made him out to be.

Go Canes!!

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 09, 2017 at 04:02 AM


If “any other coach” could do it, why are so many across the country failing miserably with zero obstacles?

A lot have money, fan support, facilities and great recruiting histories.

Never called him a savior, I said he was the best of our worst, He kept the program afloat through a three year fiasco and left the program with s ton of talent and committed players he unfortunately never knew how to utilize property on game day.

Go Canes!!

P.S. The last three programs to have prolonged NCAA investigations hanging over their heads are UNC, Baylor and Oke Miss.

They went 1-11, 3-9 and 6-6 with about three wins against Power five teams combined.

UMike

It was mentioned earlier that UGA has a lot of players (seniors) that were recruited and played under CMR hat are now in the playoffs. Although this was said as praise to CMR, i can't help but think that is exactly why he was fired. He and the talent and couldn't get there, Smart comes in and is already in the playoffs.

CaneRock

Shalala, Shapiro, Hocutt, & Eichorst...all scumbags. James almost made that list, but He redeemed Himself with the Richt hire. And Shalala knew Shapiro was a scumbag, no way in hell Barry Alvarez didn't give Her the heads up that Shapiro scammed Him & His Son out of $1M...She knew.

BigWindyCane1

It was mentioned earlier that UGA has a lot of players (seniors) that were recruited and played under CMR hat are now in the playoffs. Although this was said as praise to CMR, i can't help but think that is exactly why he was fired. He and the talent and couldn't get there, Smart comes in and is already in the playoffs.

Posted by: UMike | December 09, 2017 at 09:27 AM

Welll, I guess we will have to wait and see how well Kirby Smart does in a couple of years when our Coach of the Year CMR's recruits have graduated

1mg of Epi

Never called him a savior, I said he was the best of our worst, He kept the program afloat through a three year fiasco and left the program with s ton of talent and committed players he unfortunately never knew how to utilize property on game day.

Posted by: Go Canes!! | December 09, 2017 at 06:56 AM

I'm speaking strictly in terms of the cloud, your original point. I'm saying that I don't beleive he guided the program any better or worse than any coach would.

You mentioned earlier that he did the same things we would in his spot... that's exactly my point.

As far as Ws Ls and talent... he inherited a talented team and he left a talented team. He squandered the talent as badly as the other coaches.

JAG

BigWindyCane1

I am really excited about the Canes recruits so far. The incoming talent is through the roof. Not as many high-level recruits are getting away from South Florida as before. The Canes seem to know who they want, and they go after them, regardless of their star rating. The Canes are also recruiting central and northern Florida as well. The Canes have some really good players who can be stars at the next level with proper development. This is the best group of recruits the Canes have had in almost two decades

His Royal Dudeness

Posted by: 86Cane | December 09, 2017 at 12:41 AM

Sorry, but showing up in your Canes gear to the Swamp, isnt quite the same as being the automatic rifleman on patrol in Kandahar.

VA Cane

I think AlPa was brave to stick it out regarding the shit storm; give him credit for that. I think he recruited some good HS players and some of them did pretty good, but there were no top tier stars; they were good enough to play in the NFL so they had to be good!

I think the problem was that he never understood playing or coaching NC championship football at an elite level at a top school as the leader of the program. Same for Coker and Onionhead. Clap coached as an OC...he was not a HC. Onion played and coached great football....but not as a HC and he is not one. Both of them and AlPa are assistants....for life. There is nothing wrong with that.

I would go so far as to say the WORST blame lives with Shalala, the Board, and ADs. THEY put Clappy, Oninonhead and AlPa in the position to fail as they were not close to being a qualified HC!

Coker was not gonna fail the first 2 years; he won 2 NCs (YES 2; he was robbed) but hell we could all get on the 12% Bus, get drunk and stoned, go to the games as the staff and WE would have won it all twice! Tesla thinks they made the self drive....BS. 2001-2003 was the original self drive!!!
Then the road got wider and we lost track of process....got over on the shoulder. RS was no answer; he was convenient and cheap, not a HC at all. Things were not good and we got the wheels in the ditch. AlPa was a disaster waiting to happen; this ain't Perv State U with JoPa; that don't work here. I have a couple of my young players who are out of HS now....20....THEY could go to Temple tomorrow and win. The 3 men were not qualified or competent, but they still were called the answer to the problem! The Prez,Board, and AD's made the choice...bad ones...and held the purse strings and made the offer. Shame on them for poor decisions!!!

Terrance Sullivan

UMike so whats the difference between Smart and Richt in 2002 when UGA went 13-1 won SEC East, SEC Championship, and Sugar Bowl and finished #3 in the nation behind Ohio State and Miami so if their were a playoffs UGA would have been in do I need to bring up 2012, and some other years where they would have made the playoff. The Man averaged 10 wins a year. So when I saw your original post of some people saying Mark Richt is only good for 8 wins a year. I just ignored the dumb horse manure they were spewing. They better win it all otherwise whats the point of the dumb crap some of these rubes are talking about. Dude won 150 games in 15 years that's 10 wins a year average not 8. That's Real Fake News. Besides the SEC was way stronger then than now but some people don't use common sense as I was alluding to earlier on the blog a few days ago of about it matters who you play and what they are in relation to what they were in. previous years. If Georgia doesn't beat Oklahoma then that's 12-2 and that wont be better than 13-1. they better beat Oklahoma just to be at least as good as the 2002 UGA team with David Green, Musa Smith, David Pollack,Thomas Davis, Ben Watson, etc.

Terrance Sullivan

UGA 2007 Team finished #3 as well and went into the Bowl Game #4 so they would have been in the playoff as well lol. I hear UGA Fans talking that same stuff here and I just laugh. If they win it all I will tip my cap if they dont what will they say then lol. BTW UGA was 10-3 in 2014 and finished in the Top 10, and in the year Coach Richt was fired they finished 10-3 and ranked lol btw UGA finished 8-5 last year and unranked so they better win it all otherwise all those UGA rubes will be feeling really stupid and I will be laughing in their faces.

Terrance Sullivan

Now back to our Canes we need to beat Wisconsin and finish 11-2 and finish in the top 7 this year and would be our best season since 2003. Lets beat those Stinkin Badgers. We owe them from 2009. Looking forward to seeing yall at The Rock! Go Canes! we got to get healthy those 11 straight weeks of playing wore our team out, but lets get it back together and play lights out and send our Seniors out right, finish a successful season off right.

UMike

tSully....I wasn't trying to knock CMR or his accomplishments...but I would be blind not to notice Smart won the SEC and is in the playoffs with the talent CMR had.

I have mentioned before that I hope with south Florida recruiting and being in the coastal we will fair better with CMR then UGA did...but I don't think UGA is where there are today had CMR stayed.

Terrance Sullivan

So U totally ignored my post about 2002, 2007,2012 when they would have made the playoff but their was no playoff so again whats the point. and by lying and saying the dude averaged 8 wins a year when he averaged 10 wins a year is bush league. so thats why I came out and clowned it. IJS.

MLAlumni1970

We sure are walking down the dark side of memory lane. We learn from the past, at least we should. CMR is erasing all the DARK SIDE nightmares that the U went through. That period killed the Canes for years. Without Shapiro, the Canes might have won another championship. I don't blame the players. I blame the system, and Shalala. I think she wanted to kill our football program.
Need some coffee, that's for sure.
Getting a CT Scan on Tuesday on my lungs. X-rays showed a white shadow, which could be from past pneumonia etc.
Anyhow, with the holidays not much Cane stuff till BB next week.

Terrance Sullivan

IF we didnt have the playoff system like in 2002, 2007, 2012. Guess what UGA at #3 would be on the outside looking in just like 2002,2007, 2012 because the National Championship Game this year would be #1 Clemson vs #2 Oklahoma in Say either the Rose or Sugar Bowl.

BigWindyCane1

CMR was the overwhelming choice by his peers and sports writers to be Coach of the year. His accomplishments before and after his hire have been remarkable. CMR deserves credit for the success and momentum this Canes program is seeing in football.

The SEC east was down this season, but new hires in Gainesville and Knoxville will make wins in the SEC East a little tougher going forward. I don't know if UGA's decision to let CMR go was good for them in the long run, but I am happy they made that decision because it has been great for the Canes.

His Royal Dudeness

Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | December 09, 2017 at 12:07 PM

Its critical.

CaneRock

Fromm was just a better fit for what UGA wanted to do, Eason just really wasn't the guy.

Eason is just another one of these slew footed QBs that can't find success in the College game...ala Ricky Town, Jack Allison, & those 3 QBs that transferred from Bama who can't get burn anywhere else.

Terrance Sullivan

Yes Sir Big Windy!

Terrance Sullivan

Yes Sir His Royal Dudeness!

CaneRock

And who ever said Richt averaged 8 wins?

I didn't really follow UGA, but I seem to remember the knock on Him was He didn't win enough of the big ones. To me He was just another one of those SEC coaches that got Sabanized.

VA Cane

I never thought Allison....or anybody else was a good QB. Shirreffs may be a nice kid....no a college QB. Allison was a fumble foot stumbling QB....not the answer. Weldon....don't know. Malik did win....but he is not the long term answer...just not a real QB!

Better hope Perry gains about 30 pounds.....he is what I think college QBs almost have to be. Russell Wilson skills and brains really matter now. I can see where Dudeness is coming from. I am never set to go full spread all the time.....but I think you have to run spread and RO more than in the past. The athletic QB is where it is......

Our NCs were flat footed immobile QBs.....none would fit the modern game like they did in those days!
Can you see Kelly Bernie Walsh Erickson Vinnie Gino even KD in todays game? They would need lines like 01-03 and then some or they might be DOA at the hospital with the OLs we have had since 01-03! I saw J12 nearly die from that hit in Cville....he never was the same. Heaps, even the great and powerful Gray Crow, Olsen Morris....slew foot Brad? Games is different.....I really hope Perry comes out smoking...he has an arm and instincts....hope he gains some weight.

VA Cane

I think my biggest issue with CMR is that laid back be a nice guy approach. He did a great job this year....but he is so predictable and vanilla; there is no urgency, no bold plays, not aggressive at all, plays things close. I understand it to a point!!.....but you have to go all out!!! You CAN Hit Hate and Hurt on offense.

That FG vs clemson told me a lot....you are down 38...and settle for a FG just to score? You are losing on Nat TV....show your guts....go for TD!
Thats my concern?
Tom Osborne vs UM in 1983.....tie wins NC!!!! He never ever thought to go for a tie!!! He went for the win!!!
down 38 and a FG to score...to feel good? I think you man up and kick ass one time....thats my concern with coach....too mellow and satisfied....JMO

His Royal Dudeness

Pete Carroll is laid back and it doesnt stop his team from playing dominant, swaggering football.

UMike

tSully....good points good points

UMike

But my point still stands...he couldn't win big with the same talent as Smart..he will get more talent here though

His Royal Dudeness

Life long Yankee hater here...

I have to admit I'm excited about Stanton and Judge on the same team. I'll be watching them day 1 next year, its gonna be a freak show... I like freak shows.

UMike

And not trying to knock CMR believe it or not..hes has done great
..just trying to say it makes me wonder lol

His Royal Dudeness

Posted by: UMike | December 09, 2017 at 01:19 PM

It really doesnt though because Smart has only done what Richt did a few times, only now there is a playoff.

Richt may not be the guy that wins us a title, but he is the guy that will make titles possible again. We wont really know until this project is in full swing. It starts by winning the Coastal every single year. I've said before, the days of giving a coach 5 years are over at big programs, because by year 3 the fans will turn and recruiting will dry up. You now have 3 years to show something, Richt has done that 100% and earned his 4th year already. We as Canes fans need to learn to enjoy the journey and not act like spoiled brats on the way back. Right now its about winning the Coastal and stacking blue chip players, soon it will be about playoffs and ACC championships. I just hope that Richt is honest with himself about himself. I'd really like to see a gifted OC come in so that in his 2nd or 3rd year, the Canes are rolling on O & D.

VA Cane

Pete is laid back sometimes....but he goes for broke takes chances...I really like CMR....done great and will get us to where we want to go...back to elite....i just do not know if he has that killer instinct that instinct to kill your opponent ....but hey we will see and i am very pleased with his work....best since 03 in my opinion!!!

Terrance Sullivan

LOl I feel U UMike

His Royal Dudeness

^^^ So does Richt. He sent his whole team out to celebrate a TD vs FU. I dont think for a second that Richt is the same guy in front of a camera that he is in a locker room. I think there is a bunch of evidence that Richt puts giant chips on his team's shoulders. From the hit list to telling his QB he'll never play for him, clearly Richt isnt all Mr. Nice Guy.

His Royal Dudeness

We will never get full access to Richt's locker room, but I will tell you this much... 1) in front of the cameras & media, representing The U in victory or defeat, Mark Richt is a 100% class act and the perfect choice for the admin. 2) He's shown he's gonna recruit deep, elite blue chip stacked classes. 3) Based on how his UGA fam still loves him, he's obviously genuine, and who wouldnt want that running their program? 4) His results this year were outstanding. In however many years we've been in the ACC, this is the first time we've won the Coastal and are probably in the best position to do it again next year.

I dont understand the issue right now. Lets say after 6 years under Richt, Miami has five 10 win season and 4 ACC CG appearences, winning 1 and losing in the 1st round of the playoffs. In 6 years he's won around 60 games but no national title and is stacking talent... I dont really see the problem with that.

1mg of Epi

Mark Richt has the perfect demeanor for this team. Cool, calm, a touch of arrogance and an easy confidence.

He's got swag.

His Royal Dudeness

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 09, 2017 at 01:54 PM

Outside of 1 thing (OC) he's shown me he's the goods. The defense next year is going to be better, especially if 1 of 2 between McIntosh & Norton come back. The offense next year will be better by the middle of the season, we need some OL to step up early next year, I want that win against LSU.

P.S. I'd really like to see some starting OL predictions for next year. Donaldson, St. Louis & Gauthier are coming back and to me, only Donaldson is a guarantee. we will have four 4 star freshmen assuming this class sticks plus Herbert's RS.

CaneRock

Fan pressure has made Richt a better coach. Remember last year during that 4 game losing streak He went to whinin'.

Oh you don't have speed...win anyway.

Oh you don't have size on the O-line...win anyway.

Did you say you didn't have RBs Coach Brown?...win anyway.

Haven't heard too much whinin' this year, so they're quick learners.

1mg of Epi

Did u guys see Richts sideline interview right after ND?

The reporter asked him about the blowout, if her was surprised etc... he said something like: "we have some great players who worked hard, and of course we nothing is possible without god."

As he thanked god for being on his side he did a slow head turn to ND bench, a smile slowly spreading across his face.

It was the best troll job I've seen. He told ND that god is a Miami Hurricane. With that wry smile He said "F your Catholics Vs convicts".

Swag.

His Royal Dudeness

1. Tyson Campbell - - 63% Miami
2. Andrew Chatfield - 71% Miami
3. Patrick Surtain - - 0% Miami

If we land all 3 of these kids, its a perfect class.

NativeCane

Yesterday morning the ACME Shoehorn bowl committee consisting of old skool and nativecane picked Florida State university and university of Florida to represent our fine corporation..... odor eaters for all who show up at Yeehaw junction stadium for this contest of dimwits nitwits and halfwits...

Tonycane

What is so appealing about LSU for Patrick Surtain?

His Royal Dudeness

Posted by: Tonycane | December 09, 2017 at 02:52 PM

Great question.

1mg of Epi

What is so appealing about LSU for Patrick Surtain?

Posted by: Tonycane | December 09, 2017 at 02:52 PM

Fat bags?

Terrance Sullivan

Pat Surtain is from New Orleans and straight Cash homie LoL

CaneRock

It's not LSU so much as it's Heritage.

That place is a desert to get commitments out of, and we have their former HC.

TonyCane


Fromm was just a better fit for what UGA wanted to do, Eason just really wasn't the guy.

Eason is just another one of these slew footed QBs that can't find success in the College game...ala Ricky Town, Jack Allison, & those 3 QBs that transferred from Bama who can't get burn anywhere else.

Posted by: CaneRock | December 09, 2017 at 12:33 PM

I thought the consensus here a few years ago was that Ricky Town was the world's first six star football player.

TonyCane

Pat Surtain is from New Orleans and straight Cash homie LoL

Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | December 09, 2017 at 03:50 PM

Isn't Surtain's family well off, because, well, you know...his dad was a Pro Bowl NFL corner?

CGNC

It was the best troll job I've seen. He told ND that god is a Miami Hurricane. With that wry smile He said "F your Catholics Vs convicts".

Swag.

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 09, 2017 at 02:17 PM

Love it

Hetbieibis

We still talking about those past retread coaches. They all had some good but mostly bad attributes and that is why they are in the head coaching grave yard (Shannon and Golden).

The SEC qb's stink and that is why Georgia is where it's at today. Look at LSU, Florida, Artie, Vandy, Tex. A&M, I mean who has a great throwing qb? Know wonder the defenses are better. If u can stop the run and are loade with talent like Bama u should win 11 games a year.

Our only problems are really minor, Richt fires himself as OC, get rid of Feagles as our punter, get a consistent passing qb and get a little more OL line talent.

KYcane

I'd really like to see some starting OL predictions for next year. Donaldson, St. Louis & Gauthier are coming back and to me, only Donaldson is a guarantee.

Posted by: His Royal Dudeness | December 09, 2017 at 02:03 PM

Bar Milo?

1mg of Epi

Our only problems are really minor, Richt fires himself as OC, get rid of Feagles as our punter, get a consistent passing qb and get a little more OL line talent.

Posted by: Hetbieibis | December 09, 2017 at 04:53 PM

That's it? No biggie. Whatevs

His Royal Dudeness

Posted by: KYcane | December 09, 2017 at 05:10 PM

Has he even got an in game rep?

NativeCane

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