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October 14, 2007

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PLAY THE FRESHMEN!!

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86Cane

Sorry for the blog pollution this weekend.

We have an immature, irresponsible person who keeps positing spam. I have tried to ban him numerous times and deleted his posts but he continues his quest to try to ruin the blog. I have sent all of his IP addresses to typepad for follow up.

Calvin

I'm telling yall it's kyle wright posting in his normal disguise under pb A.ak. punk itch! No need in trying to cure the blindness, just like the last incompetent one, who felt he coached better than he actually wasn't, same with punk-b and his post! It's either kyle wright or the one who recruited him that keeps posting.

tptp79

Calvin
I agree

roachcane77

Soo... any predictions for personnel changes vs. FSU?

I afraid to say, I see KW setting up under center again to start the game.

Sure would like to see some Freshmen get a chance... but, this will be a VERY HOSTILE environment to make their first starts.

roachcane77

Oops, "I'm afraid to say,"

Calvin

You know what though, the way shannon coaches and the confidence he has, he'll get a few young guns to play up to their potential and make plays like shawnbrey did. We don't need shawnbrey to try and play the whole game, just get players like him to come in and make plays when they get an opportunity. shannon will tell the young ones, if you can play at doak campbell you can play anywhere!

Calvin

Like shannon says about recruiting, he recruits based off if a players mindset matches his talents, he wants guys with that competitive edge. In other words, no more recruiting soft minded guys like kyle wright.
We need guys who are hungry, kyle has never played with hunger or passion!

solarcane

(sung to the tune of Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head)
I Must Have A Screw Loose In My head


I must have a screw loose in my head,
Looking back at all the things that we all said
What a load of crap
Those Canes aint really ballin, they just keep on fallin

Sometimes I feel like buying myself a gun
My Saturdays aren’t really turning out much fun
What a load of crap
Those Canes aint really ballin, they just keep on fallin

chorus
86 might try and delete me, he won’t defeat me
It won’t be long till I’m just bloggin with pb

I must have a screw loose in my head,
I should be spending Saturdays in my bed
Canes are still for me
I’m never gonna change the Canes by complainin
I’ll wait and see
Though they’re torturing me

solarcane
peace

roachcane77

I told myself I would quit bashing players, (until Shannon gave us the green light, LOL)... but CC is another player not playing with much passion this year.

I agree with Calvin... if Marve is not ready... put in Perrelli, or even Wiggins... or put in more "direct snap" plays to Super Coop or Shawnbrey and let them improvise... no way could they do worse than KW.

We need FRESH BLOOD and FRESH IDEAS!

roachcane77

I told myself I would quit bashing players, (until Shannon gave us the green light, LOL)... but CC is another player not playing with much passion this year.

I agree with Calvin... if Marve is not ready... put in Perrelli, or even Wiggins... or put in more "direct snap" plays to Super Coop or Shawnbrey and let them improvise... no way could they do worse than KW.

We need FRESH BLOOD and FRESH IDEAS!

roachcane77

Oops... sorry 'bout that double post... my browser said I was disconnected... but I guess I wasn't.

solarcane

cal I agree about ShawnMac, get him and Cooper in and out fired up on fresh legs Maybe the rest of the O sees what is possible and decides to earn their scholarships
peace

roachcane77

Solar you are off the hook... that song needs to be published and performed!

LMAO!

roachcane77

I gotta run... I'll check back later...

solarcane

thanks roach, and I couldn't agree more, let new guys play. They aren't getting any game experience running wind sprints at practice,
peace

darCANEgel

Nice tune, solar...but the expectations were what were wrong about this team --

It was ALWAYS a rebuilding year...
Yes, we should not have lost to UNC, but GaTech beat us on Saturday...

Keep your head up,
don't turn on this team...
but be friggin realistic...

The idea that some posted here that this was a NC winning team was just plain ridiculous.

- Do not boo the players
- Do not lose faith in Coach Shannon's plan after a mere 7 games.
- Goto the games

Simple

CANES, baaby

solarcane

darC I hear ya bro,
I'm a Cane till the end.
Being in the stands at UNC when the Canes fans stood up and booed them off the field at halftime was embarressing. It soothed the fans nerves but showed the ACC how shitty we can be to our own team
peace

solarcane

what was the paid attendance last sat anybody hear?
peace

SuperCooper

I don't know how coaching factors into this. Nix and Shannon had a good game plan yesterday. Wright missed 6 opportunites for TD and the run defense was horrible. I'm sorry, but this all goes on talent

eastlansingcane

Darc i didnt know expecting to beat GT was such a high expectation....i mean i was holding out hope that they would win a NC this year, as i do at the begining of every year....but have we fallen this far that epxecting to beat GT in our own stadium in its last year is too high of an expectation...and the problems arent the expectations....its not like they arent capable of playing...they did for most of a half against UNC....they did it for most of the game against A&M...the problem is consistency and focus....they cant play like that consistently b/c they just dont wanna focus and get it done....even against OK they were in position to steal the momentum and make a completely different game....but lack of focus prevented us from doing that...

solarcane

"that proud Indian with the flaming spear "

The Village People are going to the FSU game?
peace

eastlansingcane

if you never expect to win a NC...then you probably never will...

eastlansingcane

i do agree though that we shouldnt lose faith in shannon...or any of our other coaches for that matter....let nix and marve work together for a little while....most of the problems with kyle are his fault but he has gone through four different OC's

macjones de Albuquerque

Astute point regarding "qb" Wright. Yo gave him the benefit of the doubt for three ongoing years. Foolishly believing it was the O-coordinators fault, to a certain degree.

Yet, look what Olson is doing for A.S.U's offense as well as their QB. Are you telling me that the Sun Devils QB was higher ranked than Kyle coming out of high school. This is the same Sun Devil offense that was average last season with the same starting QB. Perhaps we all "dissed" the offensive coordinators a bit too zealously the past two seasons. Because Wright has not been right since his first start against the Seminoles so long ago.

86Cane

52,000 announced crowd on Saturday at the OB.

solarcane

eastl,
its only gonna get harder at Chapel Hill with Davis. The kids beleive in him, and themselves you could see it. They didn't give up against the Gamecocks either.
peace

eastlansingcane

high school qb rankings dont mean shyt and they arent worht shyt....dorsey, argueably the best qb to ever play at the U, wasnt highly rated out of high school...jim kelly was being recruited to play LB by other schools....

solarcane

52 dang thats not bad at all 86,
peace

darCANEgel

eastling, why not read the blog in the past (from about July on) so you can understand what I'm saying? Many if not most folks called for us going undefeated this season...do U think that was realistic?

How bout beating OU?

Anything you say about this team should be tempered in reality - not in our past performance --- that's all. Beating GaTech was entirely realistic...but when you have a young team with a new coaching staff you shouldn't be so down on them if they don't. Actually do whatever you want, just don't boo the kids...

canes, baaby

eastlansingcane

im not saying its going to get any easier....but is it wrong for us to expect them to win those games...its not the teams we are losing to (expcept OK) are more talented than us...they just want it more....i mean seriously if we would expect the canes to go in there and play slow and not care about winning or losing would we really be as diehard as we are about them?...all im saying is that when they do believe in themeselves and the coaches they can play some decent football....even this canes team, which isnt nearly as talented as previous ones...so the expectations arent all the unrealistic

solarcane

eastl,
I understand what you are saying, But
UNC was much more talented than us in a few respects. Their field goal kicker, punter, qb,Head Coach are all more talented than we are right now
peace

eastlansingcane

darc ill admit i was one of those that was saying that we would be undefeated and win a NC this year....and the sad part is if these players believed the same thing, they might have been able to do it....we arent duke football fans here so expecting a NC title from the canes to me isnt all that unrealistic....now dont get me wrong im not going to give up on them just b/c they cant win a NC this season b/c if things out of our control happen we still have a shot at an ACC title....and this season anything is possible....but the players can play they just have to believe in themeselves as much as all the 12%ers believed in them at the begining of the season.....and for the record i still expect them to win the rest of their games...and a NC next year

86Cane

Shannon said it himself at the bieginning of the season: We EXPECT to win all of our games. he set up unrealistic expectations for the fans.

He should have come out and said: "We don't have talent, we don't have depth, we need 2-3 years." Then the fans would have given him the 2-3 years. Instead they feel let down and mislead. That's why all the hostility.

And, had he studied psychology he WOULD have said "no talent, no depth, 2-3 years". Then the team would have been out to prove him wrong, not "expecting" to win because they wear orange and green unis. Shannon will get it done, but he has a long way to go in the motivation coaching and department.

GO CANES, BEAT FSU!!!

eastlansingcane

other teams arent more talented than us...they are just more confident.....maybe we need to bring Austin Powers to get our mojo back or something i dont know

eastlansingcane

if he doesnt set those expectations for the fans how can he set those expectations for the players though....and if we didnt expect to win all our games would some of these losses really hurt as much as they do?...

86Cane

WE NEED AUSTIN POWERS BUT RIGHT NOW I'D SETTLE FOR MINI-ME!

Small steps, small steps...forward please!

eastlansingcane

and if he comes out and says we dont have any talent thats pretty much like telling the players they suck and he doesnt believe in them...and after that i would blame the players for playing the way they are playing

eastlansingcane

not expecting to win is a losers mentality and i doubt that RS has that type of mentality

Calvin

Hell naw, dan werner was terrible as an oc here and he's terrible as an oc at ole miss. Other than that, it is all kyle, hell after 3 oc's, by now, one them should have been able to help him out. Don't worry folks, if this team continues to loose with the upper-classmen, shannon will start playing alot of the young guns who want it.

I think kenny phillips will have a better pro career than college career like ray lewis did. Also, the more and more you see devin hester on sunday's the more stupid'er the incompetent one looks, had hester or most our guys played on the westcoast, they would have racked up all the heisman trophies, although we don't want them or it.

Also, i'm tired of watching this team with the fake celebrations, if a headcoach has to tell you to play with emotion, than somethings wrong with you already. Their are alot of players on this team just repeating how they see other people celebrate. I'm just not feeling it, even in the texas a&m game. Anyway, the day will come when it's all real again.

Oh yeah, watch out for preston parker coming up, if we're going to keep punting like that. Once again, compliments to o-line coach stoutland for basically taking the same o-line and turning them into a good pass blocking team. g-tech averaged abot 6 to 7 sacks on us, we held them to 1:IMPROVEMENT SUPREME!

shannon has put together a solid coaching staff, the tim walton decision is the only one that might hurt him alot unless he takes back control of them. I know he's going to evaluate it strongly though.

eastlansingcane

can Heather Graham come too?

eastlansingcane

if we are going into the game not expecting to win we are we even playing?

eastlansingcane

and if the players are expecting to win why dont they play like it?

MDCane

Marve will play against BC and win, thus starts the Marve era.

Calvin

86, are you serious man. you're expecting one of the original HURRICANE players from the 80's, who by the way, was voted the most inspirational player on his team, to headcoach a Miami team, (a schooled he played for) and not expect to win a national championship. You CANNONT be serious. You'll never see shannon expect less, and he won't let players settle for less, it's back to the championship or bust mentality around here.

shannon will get the loosing mentality out of here. Also, by the way, shannon is not lying when he's commenting that guys flew around in practice and made plays, the problem is, guys are flying around making plays against players that are not the great or who don't want to be great, so shannon is being deceived by somethings in practice, now once he gets the talent level all the way back up, for example, ed reed & sean taylor vs jeremy shockey & winslow. vilma vs mcgahee & frank gore. antrelle rolle, kelly jennings against andre johnson and roscoe parrish. etc. etc. than and only than we'll know that when guys make plays in practice, that's it truly is against better competition.

Hell, most of us in this room woulld make plays against willie cooper except punk-b a.k.a. pb. Guys like spendcer adkins has the physical talent to be all world, but it's a mental game as well. On defense nobody wants to sacrifice and take out the lead blocker, nobody blowing the play up. For any player not playing hurt, when you have a headcoach that when asked what does he remember about playing against Fsu in 87 and this is what he has to say

"I was hurting (that game). I had a separated shoulder, a dislocated big toe and cracked ribs that game. The trainer's got to me that game - `It's okay, everything's fine, just sore.' That's just how it was back then.

Than you already know what he expects from the players on this team.

PLAY THE FRESHMEN!!

Anyone have the article on rivals about our loses have helped in recruiting as per Shannon!!

Please..

Calvin

For those who keep forgetting unrealistic expectations are for other schools, not ours, has any other college did this when it really counted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw1zUKJVEw8


don baiely JR. will get you fired up inside, you can just feel the PRIDE andPASSION:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TBCwsWJN00

AlpharettaCane

Think KW would've hit R Hill on that 3rd and 43?

Well, its time to be the bad guy again with my prediction for this week.

FSU 23, 'Canes 10

FSUs defense shuts down Miami, sends 'Canes to 4-4.

darCANEgel

not that it is surprising, but y'all are missing the point...unless of course you are secretly on the roster...which i doubt.

Please try to understand the difference:

A COACH @ UM teaching his players to expect to win every game is exactly what should happen...

Fans who think we should win every game, and then when we don't they Beetch and try to nitpick the coaches and players as incompetent, are MORONS...

can you see the difference? if not, again, I could care less. Just don't think that you making a comparison to Coach Shannon means that your "advice" here will mean sheet.

We can beat FSU -- everyone knows that...if we don't why not allow Shannon the B.O.D. to figure it out ---

That's right, this is a vlog, and unreal expectations are the norm...my bad.

CANES and nothing but CANES.

rubcatane

We're in a rough patch boys. Don't throw the crew out and the captain. The U's moniker is the Hurricanes for a reason. We expect to win every game. Yes, every game. we need some more ballers to join and let the fires burn bright.

even with some of our very best teams we had head scracthing losses. I am still a member of the 12% club, albeit applicable to next years team.

We need to put in all the best talent in. Need to let them grow on the field cause next year they will mentor the next crop of young men.

I am absolutely unshakable in my faith in RS. We will prevail and we shall overcome!!!

Let's start worrying about recruitment a little bit. If we get all those NW boys and PJ and the lot, it will take some more patience cause these boys will need seasoning.

I guarantee, however, we will see a quantum leap in improvement next year -- simply because of a better QB core.

Wright absolutely is horrible. Kirby at least would own the on field play. KW, during his post game interview, couldn't own up to his lousy play. He kept saying we missed some plays over and over. It is a team concept for him when he is "loosing" but "all mine" when winning.

Put is Kirby if we don't want Marve in there. At least he will be carried off the field after the game -- on the shoulders of his comrades or on a stretcher cause he will leave everything on the field. Kirby is a hurricane at heart if not in ability...

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