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September 14, 2008

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orange 'n green in the vein

first!

orange 'n green in the vein

Leave Nix alone.

WMD

3rd?

orange 'n green in the vein

ASU lost to UNLV AT HOME in OT? WTF happened to DE's boys?

SOUP

OGV...way to go! New Manny:

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/

Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer

OGV, Erickson's known to have fast starts and steady plummets. lol

I guess it's even infected Carlos' boy, Norm Chow. Got blanked, cold SHUT OUT by might BYU. So I guess Nix doesn't look so bad putting up 3 on the Gators at home. Hahaha.

How do you explain that one Carlos??

OGV, what's your feel on A&M but more importantly who do you expect to emerge as our playmakers at WR?? Remember this time last year, we had no friggin' clue what would happen with the rest of the season. lol

Then DJ emerged against A&M.

Good breakdown of the competition whoever wrote it, Soup I assume.

hurriphin302

9-3 here we come. I'm almost certain we lose 2 of those games we're supposed to win. An "upset" over W.F. would be nice though.

hurriphin302

Cav- didn't s.shields eat A&M up last year? He didn't score, but he went over 100yds. and caught some deep balls. I wish the coaching staff would just forgive him, and let him ball. Like it or not he's our best WR.

Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer

Hirriphin, yeah, Shields is our best combination of speed and experience and he did have a great game against A&M. And with A&M and everyone else sure to send 8, Shields is definitely our best one on one mismatch.

I hope to a lot of Shields, Benjamin and Collier, along with Hank and Kayne. Between the five of them and Epps we should be OK.

Cane since 1982

How and Why is FSU ranked not in 1 but both the AP and Coaches polls?

SOUP

Good breakdown of the competition whoever wrote it, Soup I assume.

Posted by: Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer | September 14, 2008 at 03:53 PM

No it was 86, he's back in town!

SOUP

OGV, here U go: http://thesundevils.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/recaps/091408aab.html

And wait, it get's worse for Denny:

The Sun Devils return to action to face No. 2 Georgia on Sunday, September 20 in Tempe, Arizona.

SOUP

ASU Head Coach Dennis Erickson on the game:

"We didn't make any plays offensively. We ran the football and just couldn't convert third down. Defensively, we had them at third down a lot of times and they converted it, and they made some big plays at the end of the game to get it in there. It's sickening. It starts with me. I didn't have them ready to play and I'll take the blame. But we have to play better as a group. There are a lot of guys in that locker room that understand that."

On what UNLV did defensively:
"They were playing a lot of two deep and that forced us to run the football. That's what we were trying to do and we were getting some pretty good chunks. They made us earn everything we got, and I knew they were going to do that defensively. When we had some momentum going we just killed it either with a penalty or an incompletion or whatever the case may be. It's just a hard loss. All we can do is try to rebound from that and we will."

On bouncing back from this loss:
"Well we have to get through this game tomorrow. We have to look at the tape and meet. We have to get together as a team tomorrow and look at what happened and talk about what we have to do to get ready for Georgia. There's no question about that. Just getting over this thing first and then we'll approach the other thing after that."

dj moonbat

If we lose to A&M and/or UNC, I'll start joining in the naysaying. But I think it's quite likely we thrash them both.

True cane

This is crazy, FSU is ranked and we did not even get a vote. I guess we do not deserve to be ranked. I hope we beat A&M. I know some of you think that A&M is going to be a "Gime" But I think it is going to be a hard fought game.

SOUP

But I think it's quite likely we thrash them both (TAMU and UNC).

Posted by: dj moonbat | September 14, 2008 at 04:51 PM

Here's to hoping you are right! It will be unbearable up in here if you are wrong.

GO CANES, BEAT TAMU!!!

Six

Sam Wank? for the Deacons up at Wake Forest. Did he pull an Ocho Cinco and change his last name to go down the porn route? Ha.

Canes today in the NFL"U" 1 pm games:

- Roscoe (12 yards rec, 38 yards punt return)
- Reggie Wayne (93 yards rec, 1 TD)
- Greg Olsen (7 yards rec, 2 fumbles - ouch)
- Anytime Hester (6 yards rec, 65 yards kick return)
- Jon BEAStON (10 tacks, 1 assist, 1 fumble recovery, 1 pass defensed)
- Kenny Phillips (2 tacks)
- Jeff Feagles (3 punts, 2 inside the 20)
- Clinton Portis (96 yards rush, 2 TD, 3 yards rec)
- Santana Moss (164 yards rec, 1 TD, 27 yards rush)
- Shock (22 yards rec, 1 fumble)
- Vilma (10 tacks, 6 assists, 1 pass defense)
- Rocky McIntosh (3 tacks)

SOUP

In the ACC, UNC ranks:

2nd in scoring (39.5 ppg)
2nd in passing efficiency
3rd in total offense
5th in Passing
6th in Rushing

They have two players in the top 10 in both rushing/game and pass receiving/game.

They lead the league in both KO and punt returns.

Our boyz in the Orange and Green better come to play!

dj moonbat

I think UNC is a paper tiger. They beat MCNEESE STATE by EIGHT points. That's not good.

Yes, they blew out Rutgers. But as recently as three years ago, blowing out Rutgers just meant that you had gone through puberty. (And now, Rutgers doesn't have some of the key pieces that made the last couple years different.)

We came really close to beating UNC last year, even after spotting them a huge lead. And this year, we don't have Turf Face or JItters.

Esteban

UNC's offense's skill positions are very strong. Their OL i think is the weak point offensively (at least when they face teams with good front fours). defensively i think they got some play makers but again up front they i think they'll struggle against better OLs.

Six

The Dolphins are .... bad.

True cane

The dolphins are killing me. This is embarrassing wow

True cane

0-16
taking bets

Six

The Chris Chambers trade with the San Diego Bolts, that was for a 2nd Round pick in the 2008 draft .. right? So, the Dolphins essentially got Phillip Merling from Clemson for Chambers.

MidWestCane

"Midwest... caught your response on no-Excueses. You have a point!... but stick it! LOL

Posted by: Cat5 Cane | September 14, 2008 at 01:11 AM"

Cat5 Cane,

Talk to me, what's your beaf?

Six

If I was a Dolphin fan, I'd be p*ssed for, well, forever, for wasting the #9 pick overall in the 2007 draft on Ted Ginn, Jr.

Think about that. The #9 PICK OVERALL and you waste it on Ted Ginn, Jr.? Who in the hell was in charge of that pick and making that personnel decision? He arguably wasn't even the best WR on his own damn college team - I always though Anthony Gonzalez was a hell of lot better for what he could do, than Ginn, Jr.

True cane

Ginn, what a waste. This is just stupid. The Dolphins really suck. Now foget the Dolphins let's talk some canes. Who is he tease of the day on rivals?

SOUP

From www.ProCanes.com:

The NFL announced Wednesday that The U has the most players in the league, for the third consecutive season. Miami has 44 players on NFL rosters, following 42 in 2006 and 46 in 2007.

And Florida colleges continue to dominate the NFL landscape. Florida State is second on the list with 37 players, and Florida is 10th with 30.
The top 10 most-represented schools in the league:
1. Miami — 44
2. Florida State — 37
3. Georgia — 36
4. Michigan — 36
5. Ohio State — 36
6. LSU — 35
7. Tennessee — 34
8. Texas — 34
9. USC — 32
10. Florida — 30

darCANEgel

Hey bg1906, you out there? That web site you posted with your NCAA highlights was friggin fun stuff...nice spin move...GR8 hurdle...I love the tribute to Navarro, too --- best highlights I saw all weekend, mang -- props.

Now come on! We got a real tough game coming next weekend...gameday coaching, baaby...

Who had the juice this weekend?
Spurrier for sure -
Leavitt AND Mangino -
Bielema or whatever his name was -
Pete Caroll ---

Who else? We need the juice!

86, nice post...you really think UCF is only a CAT 1? thought they looked pretty good against the Bulls...but I din't see it all...either way, solid.

CANES, baaby

MidWestCane

"This is crazy, FSU is ranked and we did not even get a vote. I guess we do not deserve to be ranked. I hope we beat A&M. I know some of you think that A&M is going to be a "Gime" But I think it is going to be a hard fought game.

Posted by: True cane | September 14, 2008 at 04:53 PM"


True cane,

I'm with you totally on your post and hope your'er incorrect on the latter part of that post.

I just want to say, "it is crazy" (i.e., the absence or confusion of reason). This is one of the clear example of bias played out by the media, again upon our team. Ranking FSU, as you have noted, who we beat last year, our performance in our last two games this year, but not a vote coming in our direction points to and exemplifies one thing - BIAS. A fan can get away with non-sense because, it is known, people who are untrained or unlearned in the criticle thinking fields are vulnerable to all sorts of craft, and clever forms of vice. But a reporter is not and should not be apart of this class of people since Public "Service" is their work.

It gets me when I hear, and is exposed to it too. But to understand its nature helps in coping or overcoming.

Remember: "What comes around . . ."

orange 'n green in the vein

Cav, A&M isn't going to be a walkover like everybody thinks they are. They're trying to go pro-set with Franchione's multiple O personel and the QB situation is a huge ? for them. I'd put them at a category 2 if I were writing this article but apparently 86 (not ChunkySOUP) disagrees. But at College Station it's going to take another good offensive game plan that without JJ is going to be a challenge. Joe Kines is going to attack, attack, attack the Mr. Football's I figure, the line will have to protect and give them time to make them pay. I like what Hankerson is developing into, he needs to settle down and hold onto the ball at the begging and end of games now. The freshmen are going to be good, Collier is going to be what Hester was always supposed to become but never did in Coral Gables. Like Benjamin a lot. Shields is still a cypher though, wish he'd either just crap or get off the pot already. I'm just sick of waiting for the last Head Coach's guys to either get with it or get out of town. Byrd though is the guy who I'm expecting great things from, it might just be because seeing him wear The Playmaker's number is skewing my expectations though. Next year and by the end of this year we'll know a lot more about what we have, but this game is going to be a huge step in the maturation process for this offense. Coop needs to have a huge day if JJ is gimpy. I'm still pissed that he couldn't break the big one in Gainesville despite being *thisclose* several times during carries. If he gets dropped by another ankle tackle I'm going to throw something.

timcanes

KL shoot me an email when u get [email protected]

long live ron mexico!

first?

timcanes

true cane,
you cant ask about teases on rivals soup blew up on me on the last blog for asking...but its denard robinson from deerfield beach apparently...but soups argument was that its middle of football season and i shouldnt be asking for tease of the day on here...whatever

MidWestCane

Jimmy Johnson:

is one of two football coaches to win the national championship in college and the Super Bowl championship in the NFL. Johnson won back-to-back national championships coaching the University of Miami Hurricanes in 1987 and 1988, and he did the same thing with the Dallas Cowboys in Super Bowl XVII and Super Bowl XVIII. Barry Switzer did it with Oklahoma (1974, 1975 and 1985) and the Cowboys in Super Bowl XXX. The 64-year-old Johnson also coached the Miami Dolphins to the playoffs in three consecutive years (1997-1999). His record as a college coach at Oklahoma State University and University of Miami, covering 10 seasons, was 82-34-2 (.695). In nine National Football League seasons, he was 170-101-2 (.626). When Johnson left the Dallas Cowboys following the 1993 season, he joined FOX Sports and HBO Sports as an analyst. He worked with FOX until he joined the Miami Dolphins. Johnson left the Miami Dolphins following the 1999 season and returned to FOX Sports. He currently works on the network's Emmy-winning NFL pre-game show and is a studio analyst for the network's coverage of the Bowl Championship Series. James William Johnson was born in Port Arthur, Texas on July 16, 1943. He earned all-state honors as a two-way lineman for Jefferson High School. He became an All-Southwest Conference defensive lineman at the University of Arkansas and played on the Razorbacks 1964 national championship team. Johnson was a three-year letterman and named to the school's All-Decade Team of the 1960s. He earned a degree in psychology. Johnson married Linda Kay Cooper in 1963, and they had two sons, Brent and Chad. They were divorced in 1989. Johnson married Rhonda Rookmaker in 1999, and they live in Islamorada, Fla. where he enjoys fishing. Occasionally, he gives his time to a fund-raising event in the Florida Keys. After 14 years as an assistant at six different schools, Johnson coached Oklahoma State from 1979-1983 going 29-24-2 (.545). The team played in the 1982 Independence Bowl (Texas A&M 33, Ohio State University16) and 1984 Bluebonnet Bowl (OSU 24, Baylor 14). In 1984, the University of Miami hired Johnson to replace Howard Schnellenberger who left the Hurricanes after winning the school's first national championship in 1983. In five seasons under Johnson, the Hurricanes were 21-9 against teams ranked in the Top 20 and 31-0 against unranked teams. They won 36 straight regular-season games (1985-1988) and 20 road games in a row (1984-88). Johnson had 14 players drafted in the first round, and Testaverde won the 1988 Heisman Trophy. Johnson went to Dallas coach the Dallas Cowboys in 1989 joining Cowboys' owner Jerry Jones, a former roommate at Arkansas. After finishing 1-15 in 1989, Johnson, the coach, and Jones, the owner, began rebuilding the Cowboys. On Oct. 12, 1989, Dallas traded Herschel Walker to the Minnesota Vikings in a deal that would eventually involve 18 players, a NFL record. Johnson's ability to evaluate talent led to consecutive Super Bowl wins. Dallas made it two in a row in 1993, going 12-4 and beating Buffalo 30-13 on Jan. 30, 1994 in Super Bowl XXVIII as MVP Emmitt Smith rushed for 132 yards (30 carries) and two touchdowns. With the Jones relationship souring, Johnson left the team on March 29, 1994. After two years in television, Johnson became the Miami Dolphins' third coach in 1996. He turned one of the league's oldest teams into one with 22 starters averaging 25.7 years old, the youngest team. On Jan. 16, 2000, Johnson retired and headed back to television. In 1993, he wrote Turning the Thing Around: My Life in Football, a book ghost-written with Ed Hinton, but he was unable to return Miami to the Super Bowl, a place it hasn't been since 1984. Jimmy Johnson's failure to win a championship with the Dolphins does little, if anything, to change his legacy as a coach who did it four times, two times each with Hurricanes and Cowboys.

MidWestCane

"Randy Shannon lets us in"

July 23, 2008 9:31 AM


Posted by ESPN.com's Heather Dinich


Jason Parkhurst/USPresswire
Miami coach Randy Shannon says no one can put more pressure on him than himself.
It's not easy to truly get to know Miami coach Randy Shannon. He puts up a wall, and doesn't seem to want to let anyone in -- particularly the media, which isn't exactly unheard of in his profession.

It's not uncommon for him to give one-word answers, or answer a question with a question. But on Monday, Shannon opened the door to the program -- and himself -- just enough.

I asked him if he was more comfortable this year, given the additional depth, subtraction of a few players and influx of talented youth. Buried in his answer, Shannon said he doesn't expect the Hurricanes to be much better than last year's 5-7 finish.

"I feel really good about what we've got going on, the direction we're going as a football team," Shannon said. "When you start off building a foundation like we started off last year, when you're trying to create the atmosphere of having a winning mentality, having the attitude of changing a culture around, it's a start.

"If we go 5-7 and was able to recruit guys like we did last year, that means we're in the start of going in the right direction. So we're excited about that, but it's not going to be the savior of everything. We don't expect to be a lot better than we were last year. We expect to be more competitive than we were last year."

Patience, Miami fans, patience.

Besides, what you say, think or post on the message boards apparently does not faze this man anyway.

Nobody on the other side of his wall could possibly put more pressure on Shannon than himself.

"You guys make it that way," he said. "You guys always say the pressure. You guys think that just because it's Miami ... I remember Jimmy Johnson in '85. They wanted to run him out of Miami. Dennis Erickson won a national championship. They wanted to run Dennis Erickson out of town. There's always going to be that no matter where you at, at any school. But you can't put no more pressure on me. The fans can't put no more pressure on me, because the University of Miami is my alma mater -- I bleed orange and green. Nobody can put more pressure on me than myself. When we lose, I take it harder than anybody in this country. When we win, I'm more excited than anybody in this country."

Last season, then, must have been devastating. Shannon offered several reasons, though, for the Hurricanes' plummet into mediocrity -- none of which included himself.

"A lot of things attributed to the losses last year," he said. "Ten freshmen attributed to the losses last year. Not having no depth on the team contributed to the losses last year. Only having six D-linemen, only having three linebackers, only having three receivers at some point in time ... there's a lot of things that attributed."

Including what offensive tackle Jason Fox described as players who were "cancerous" to the program. Shannon said those guys are gone.

"I think it's a situation that everybody is not going to agree," he said. "Players that are not on the team right now are not bad kids, they just didn't agree to what we were trying to get done at Miami. So what you've gotta do is make sure if they're not trying to get things done the way you want it, and they're not agreeing with what you want, you part ways and go on."

Shannon has no intention of going anywhere anytime soon. He made important changes to his staff that should improve the team, and said he wants to get the kind of stability on his staff that coaches like Frank Beamer and Bobby Bowden have achieved. But in order to have stability, you have to stay. And in order to stay, you must win.

The three-year window coaches are so routinely given to win is a myth to Shannon.

"You talk like that," he said. "I don't. You do."

That's about when he closed the door.


Miami Hurricanes, Randy Shannon, Jason Fox

solarcane

I dislike UNC more than anyone on this blog,
My son in law is a Tar Heel.

You guys are kidding yourselves if you don't think UNC is a well coached team that is on the rise faster than we are.

You guys flaunt us beating 5-7 CSU and say UNC struggled against Mcneese,
Mcneese was something like 10-1.
http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/mcne/sports/genrel/auto_original/1266491.jpeg


We need to stop the "South Florida recruits are the cure all" BS and face reality.

Lots of teams could kick the crap out of us with a lot "less" talented kids.

We dont score 30 points a game for a stretch you can kiss the shock the world tour goodbye.

peace

solarcane

How and Why is FSU ranked not in 1 but both the AP and Coaches polls?

Posted by: Cane since 1982 | September 14, 2008 at 04:36 PM


cane82,

FSU

avg 57.5 points per game

give up 3.5 points per game

527 yrds per game

give up 170 yrds per game

that looks impressive, but it will start to look more realistic as the season unwinds.

Plus you want FSU to bee ranked as high as possible when we play them.
Same with the Gators when we get them later.

We win a few games in the next few weeks we will get in the 25 and move up.
peace

MidWestCane

"We need to stop the "South Florida recruits are the cure all" BS and face reality.

Lots of teams could kick the crap out of us with a lot "less" talented kids.

We dont score 30 points a game for a stretch you can kiss the shock the world tour goodbye.

peace

Posted by: solarcane | September 14, 2008 at 07:18 PM"

solarcane,

As "Fans", What do you expect us to do?

MidWestCane

"FSU

avg 57.5 points per game

give up 3.5 points per game

527 yrds per game

give up 170 yrds per game

that looks impressive, but it will start to look more realistic as the season unwinds.

Plus you want FSU to bee ranked as high as possible when we play them.
Same with the Gators when we get them later.

We win a few games in the next few weeks we will get in the 25 and move up.
peace

Posted by: solarcane | September 14, 2008 at 07:30 PM"

Solar,

Comon. You selectively picked and chose those stats.

Ranked Teams played is not a consideration?

Whether we played away or not is not consideration?

Come on.

solarcane

Hi mid,

Yea we are all fans but, I think maybe we should watch how other teams are conducting their buisness too.

Many are getting things done with talent equivilent to ours. I'm saying we should produce some offense.

I'm not gonna spend an entire season being careful I don't hurt someones feelings if I feel the Canes offense isn't producing.

peace

Six

Did Kurt Warner really drop 361 yards and 3 TD's on the Dolphins today?

Anyone watch the Bronco/Bolts game? Unbelievable game. Rat Shanahan has some balls, going for the 2 point conversion to win.

Canes today in the NFL"U" 4 pm games:

- BIG VINCE (1 tack, 1 assist, 50 Big Macs)
- Brandon Meriweather (1 tack, 1 INT)
- Edge (55 rush yards)
- Antrel Rolle (2 tacks)
- D.J. Williams (4 tacks, 1 assist)
- Nate Webster (3 tacks)

Canes players yet to play tonight and tomorrow night:

- K2
- Leon Williams

Canes players that had today off:

- Andre Johnson
- T. Gooden
- Ray Ray
- Ed Reed

solarcane

mid,
I picked those stats only because as Randy Shannon would tell you
They are what they are.
Like I said they will equal out as the season rolls on.

And I agree with you, us hanging with the gators was just as important as a win against the Blind Sisters Academy


peace

 dlu

On Mckenzie, better safe then sorry guy had spinal injury. How about this, Shannon, Nix knew the U was no good last yr, and not much better this yrs. from what one reads. If that is what they really think what is holding them back, go for an offense, what is the difference between 4/8 5/7. At least the offense would be developing, I am not buying Shannon when he say Canes are not much better this yr. maybe a little more competitive. I do not like to hear that kind of talk, players going for an nc and coach thinks they are a 5/7 team. Something is lost in translation. I've got to trust myself my instincts and what I saw from the D. I think the canes have a top 10 defense and an unknown offense.

 dlu

Nix better grap Marve's coat tails and ride him to more job secruity.

solarcane

crunky style,

I meant to tell you that blog article is good stuff very enjoyable and interesting read.
peace

solarcane

dlu,
amen bro, I know you're hard core and expect us in the 30 to 40 points range from here out me too!

peace

CoCane

Solar,

I feel ya. I don't think we deserve a vote in the polls.

Based on how da "U" has played so far, they could lose to:

UNC
FSU
WAKE
VaTech
GaTech

MidWestCane

"I'm not gonna spend an entire season being careful I don't hurt someones feelings if I feel the Canes offense isn't producing.

peace

Posted by: solarcane | September 14, 2008 at 07:37 PM"


Solar,

I respect your opinion. Really I do.

My ever underlining point alway have been this: To charge a person before a crime has been committed - seems un-just. If he represents your team, then its multiplied by 2. People have said, I will give him time, but prosecute before a warrant has be rendered.

Look, our O have not been impressive to me. Fact. But I remember someone say "Rome was not built in a day."

You've alway seemed reasonable. So I hope you understand.

hurriphin302

for whatever reason, some scouts have CB bruce johnson the no. 4 or 5 best senior corner in the nation. our dolphins secondary is... well I don't have enough adjectives to describe it... I was thinking maybe macho harris and johnson, in the second & third rounds?

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