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September 11, 2008

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abulicane

sorry, I've always wanted to do that

SOUP

See you all at 5 PM!

Start posting ??? at 4:30...

SOUP

sorry, I've always wanted to do that

Posted by: abulicane | September 11, 2008 at 02:44 PM

I bet U weren't even breathing when you were posting three in a row? Heart rate?

moneycane21

I don't know if this has been posted but I think it's hilarious

http://www.gump4heisman.com/my_weblog/2008/08/gump4heismans-10-things-to-look-forward-to-this-college-football-season.html

Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer

OK, who saw the game again and knows whether our WRs got separation or not??

Este, email me [email protected]

Cane360

As I was saying...

I saw a young team that has not established itself yet. I saw a team without an image trying to make a statement. I saw a team hungry to win. I saw a team shut down an exploding running team to 89 Rushing Yards which includes Demps, Harvin, Rainey, Teblow, Moody, etc. I saw a team that will do nothing but improve as the season progresses. I saw a team being a team!

This is all we need for this year, nothing else. A year under it's belt as a team. Next year is OUR year. This year we finalize our image for the furture.

CaneDolFan386

Cav I agree on Aldarius Ive always thought that. He looks more like a Chris Carter type which is fine.Ive always liked Streeter. I think that kid will blow up. Every time I watched a MNW game Streeter was the more impressive to Me. I hope He sticks with it and comes back healthy. It is dissapointing watching Our Wrs nobody was getting open. I think Ufs sec is really good but We will see against teams like TexAM. I like TB and TC also. I know it might sound ignorant but Streeter reminds Me of a young Randy Moss He just always seems to get open deep and Hes money if it comes down to a jumpball. Thats just My humble opinion.

MidWestCane

"Midwest, to answer your question above, from what little I noticed there seemed to be very little separation from UF defenders by our WRs."

Posted by: Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer | September 11, 2008 at 02:50 PM

CP,

That is Exactly what I saw. I was not at the game, so I can't say other's did not see differently. But the TV screen and VCR on replay only show you right.

The day of the game but just before it started, I asked you if you thought that muscle mass would be a problem.

Maybe it was.

Posted by: MidWestCane | September 11, 2008 at 03:01 PM

CaneDolFan386

Manny, I know it doesnt start till 5:00.But Ive got to go to work .I was wondering,How does the teams attitude seem to be going into this week with TexAM coming up?

MidWestCane

"Midwest, to answer your question above, from what little I noticed there seemed to be very little separation from UF defenders by our WRs."

Posted by: Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer | September 11, 2008 at 02:50 PM

CP,

That is Exactly what I saw. I was not at the game, so I can't say other's did not see differently. But the TV screen and VCR on replay only show you right.

The day of the game but just before it started, I asked you if you thought that muscle mass would be a problem.

Maybe it was.

Posted by: MidWestCane | September 11, 2008 at 03:01 PM

The U needs A coach

Posted by: Cane360 | September 11, 2008 at 03:00 PM

I saw the canes lose. Even though they were down but 6 going in to the 4th quarter, they never crossed the 50 or even were a threat to score. I saw a game plan that was not equal to the talent or speed of the canes. Whose fault is that.

MidWestCane

86,

I appologize for the double post, this crazy keypad of mine isn't acting right.

 dlu

It is a combination receivers and the type of plays drawn up that can spring receivers, I would not put it on the U receivers as I have seen enough to know that the U receivers are high level talent.

MidWestCane

"I saw a game plan that was not equal to the talent or speed of the canes. Whose fault is that.

Posted by: The U needs A coach | September 11, 2008 at 03:12 PM"


Did you see James get hurt and helped off ther field in the first few minutes of the game? Did you know we put 22-25 freshman on the field? Did you? Did you see signs of youth like, humm, I don't know, Nervousness? Did you know we do not have any verteran QBs? Did you miss that? Please.

Cane360

Posted by: The U needs A coach | September 11, 2008 at 03:12 PM

Yea, and the SEC refs did not call a fair game. Horse collar tackle on Marve...no call. #25 James holding #24 Grant for Harvin to score...no call. Indisputable video evidence...not there. Spikes slamming one of our RBs to the ground after the whistle...no call. BUT Franklin does the exact same thing the next play...called then blocked punt.

Most importantly, not a single holding call called all game. Do what? If you have ever played football, and played in the trenches, you know there is holding every play.

This is ok. Pay back will come 2013 when we are in our house with OUR refs. Hopefully, we'll meet in a bowl before then.

The U needs A coach

Posted by: MidWestCane | September 11, 2008 at 03:20 PM

Shannon said that James was an interval part of the game plan yet he was not the starter. I know that losing James hurt the offense tremendously, but what adjustments did shannon and his staff make to the game plan to compensate for the injury? None, the kept trying to run between the tackles with 9 men in the box with the "speed" back.

Let me ask you this. When was the last time you watched the canes and walked away from the game saying, "wow, we totally outcoached the opponent today"?

MidWestCane

"I saw a game plan . . ."

Posted by: The U needs A coach | September 11, 2008 at 03:12 PM"

"Coach",

Don't duck. Tell me, What game plan should they have ran?

The U needs A coach

Posted by: Cane360 | September 11, 2008 at 03:23 PM

I could't agree more.

The U needs A coach

Posted by: MidWestCane | September 11, 2008 at 03:29 PM

When the opponent has 9 in the box, you keep running in between the tackles.

When it is 3rd and 9, you don't run a 5 yard hitch.

When the opponent practices all week against bubble screens and shotgun option draws, because that is the crap that the other team runs, you need to realize they will see it coming.

The U needs A coach

^^don't keep runnin between the tackles

Cane360

Posted by: MidWestCane | September 11, 2008 at 03:29 PM

We should have had a plan to play balls out. Would it be different if it were a conference game, and a title shot was at stake? I would hope to think so.

This game meant nothing so the Gameplan was to simply stay in it, and grind the clock out to keep Mrs. Heisman off the field. What does not make sense to me though, we went after their offense, why couldn't we go after their defense? IMO, protecting the youth for a game that did not matter.

Well, when Wake comes around, we better go balls out!

MidWestCane

"Let me ask you this. When was the last time you watched the canes and walked away from the game saying, "wow, we totally outcoached the opponent today"?

Posted by: The U needs A coach | September 11, 2008 at 03:27 PM"

ANSWER: Saturday, after the game.

9-3 into the 4th told me that. They youth dis advantage against a Hiesman winner and a verteran team - told me that? Young coaches told me that.

But the question is (Mr. "The U needs A coach") is what did the Game, not your feelings or your perceptions but the game, told you?

No, "you need some sense"


 dlu

I thought the defensive coaching totally out coached meyer in the fla game and the players responded. I look for that and to add to that in the upcoming game. very encouraging on defense , huge.

CanesgirlNC

Mid - you are responding to someone who does not like having RS as head coach. There will be no changing his mind. Period.

CanesgirlNC

Question for Manny: Will we be seeing alot more of Aldarius Johnson?

 dlu

I look for the Miami offense to get going, after all it has been years and it is tough to over come yrs. in one game. It was also Marve's first starte in a tough setting, and the coaches did not know what they were going to get. It was sensible but not a brillant plan. Now, we will see. No excuses , and that includes the offensive side of the ball from coaches to players. I have to admit , I do not like the comments by the coaching staff that the receivers need to get open more, coach them up and develope some plays talent is there.

 dlu

Flood zones with 3 receivers there are 100's of plays to free up receivers that sounds more like a coaching thing, I will not put it on the players , Miami has talented receivers, Johnson, Byrd, Shields, Benjamin and many more.

Alex D

Here is one difference between Patrick Nix and Norm Chow. Norm Chow has a 3rd string QB throw 4 interceptions in the 1st half of game but yet still allows his QB to spread the field and keep firing away in the second half which resulted in a UCLA upset victory over Tennessee.

Patrick Nix has two extremely talented Freshmen QB’s (Redshirt and True) which played in high schools that threw the ball 25 or more times per game and is limiting the passing game to keep them from making mistakes. Coach Nix, please allow these kids to throw the ball down the field to gain maturity and proper development. Just my take.

Cane Since 1982

Manny,

What is a realistic expectation for our offense and Nix for the A&M game?

Which side do you lean towards, Nix sucks, fire him now or Nix knows what he is doing its just slow now because of a young offense?

The U needs A coach

Posted by: MidWestCane | September 11, 2008 at 03:40 PM

The canes are young but they are full of talented playmakers. In the game the coaches (on offense) did not let the players display their talent or playmaking ability.

Cane360

Let's look at the "coaching" and "play calling" we had for Dorsey's first start away in Washington when we lost.

Then come talk to me about this one. It is what it is. If we won, we would not be having this conversation. The refs had a HUGE impact on this game. More than coaching.

We cannot judge coaching until we know our guys are experienced. THE BOSS had to start from rock bottom, and is making HUGE strides, IMO.

Patience Daniel-san!

 dlu

It is early on identifying which of the talent will rise to star status and there is on going talent evaluation, so it is a work in progress and will take some time to get it sorted. It takes some hard work and good talent evaluation, some game time experience. It also takes , making passes so it can in fact go forward, as in forward pass. That is why I am a proponent of lots of passes in next game.

Cane360

Started a little early with Manny Q's. I thought SOUPer said 4:30 to start posting...

MidWestCane

"When the opponent has 9 in the box, you keep running in between the tackles.

Posted by: The U needs A coach | September 11, 2008 at 03:34 PM"


Look Turd,

Now you are lying. We did not KEEP running under those circumstances.

An exaggeration is a lie, in case you didn't know.

It's funny how a Gaytor signs on when Soup signs off.

But Guess what? The Turds ain't going to win much this year. Believe that!

Its funny how, in a Cane loss we still managed to gain NATIONAL respect. Damn, how did that happend?

"The Puddle" was silent on national TV. You can't hide. Because we know whos really pissed.

People like, haters come on our site, to get some type of reassurance that Canes aren't as good as the game said we are.

Please, go away.

Oh, and by the way, Don't lose 4 games this year, Mr. "I need life". Because that will be too revealing.

But if you follow our suggestion, you all may face us again.

Proof, we own your silly as$.

 dlu

I know I lack patience , my bad.

Cane360

I think we just need experienced WIFEouts! Just like CGNC said. Great wifeouts are a must! LMAO!

The U needs A coach

Posted by: CanesgirlNC | September 11, 2008 at 03:51 PM

The list of what will change my mind about randy shannon includes him:

1) winning
2) winning
3) winning

That's what the U is about for those of you who have forgotten.

 dlu

I gave tebow no respect before or after the game, but I will admit the guy is a force on offense with the run and pass option that he has, do I like him , no. But he will win a lot of close games for the gators and that is fine, it just shows how good the U is and how far that they have come since last year. Realisticly tebow makes plays and not many errors, what a job young and the D did in that game.

The U needs A coach

Posted by: MidWestCane | September 11, 2008 at 04:05 PM

Like I said before I am a cane fan. Sorry if it is so hard for you to fathom that there are fans out there that demand a little bit more from the coaching staff.

MidWestCane

"Divide and Conquor"

That's the only thing a Turd know. Just a couple of day of positive talk about where we are heading and how fast we have gotten here, and a Turd can't take it. He needs his fix. Negitive is'nt positive, but it must be good. WTF!!! But that the way they think.

You could put lipstick on a Turd but it is still a Turd.

The U needs A coach

Posted by: MidWestCane | September 11, 2008 at 04:14 PM

What the hell are you talking about?

Cane360

Posted by: Alex D | September 11, 2008 at 03:59 PM

Norm Chow has been around. His experiences alone make him a great coach.

Nix and Shannon both have been in their positions 2 years on his third and 1 year on his second respectively. They simply do not have the experience to adjust their Gameplan as Norm did.

Norm was a guiness in this situaion. All those corner routes were being INTed left and right. So what does he do, turns those corner routes into hooks and curls. The kid looks like an all-star. Norm most likely learned this in his years of experience at USC, in the NFL, and now with UCLA.

Nix and Shannon do not ahve that. They have experience as position coaches, but not as lead men. They will take what they learned to the next level. If the playbook does not open up, then we will have problems.

But as I express all the time, we must go through the growing pains of our coaches.

Patience Daniel-san!

DallasTX Cane

From previous:

Posted by: DallasTX Cane | September 11, 2008 at 02:17 PM"

DallasTX Cane,

It is no wonder we alway seem to be at war.

Let's talk football, please.

Posted by: MidWestCane | September 11, 2008 at 02:27 PM

//

If U want to change the subject, don't make a comment that begs for a response. Leave it at your plea for football talk. As a 10-year Navy vet and with a sister and brother-in-law who have both served 2 12+ month tours in Iraq, I find your comment both superficial and insulting.

Cane360

Posted by: The U needs A coach | September 11, 2008 at 04:17 PM

They think you are a Gator. I don't care if you are or aren't. I'll gladly talk football with U.

But if you are to make claims here then you have to back them. You have to express why you think the play calling/coaching is suspect.

You have yet to prove why Shannon is not the man for the job, but have simply stated that he isn't. Back it with why you think this.

Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer

"Let me ask you this. When was the last time you watched the canes and walked away from the game saying, "wow, we totally outcoached the opponent today"?

Posted by: The U needs A coach | September 11, 2008 at 03:27 PM"


On defense, we've been doing that since Shannon took over as DC. VT '05 and BC '06 were strictly the products of superior defensive strategy, i.e. outcoaching.

On offense, we haven't outcopaches another team since the Cotton Bowl 1991.

That's my take.

The point I think you're missing, consciously or unconsciously, are the realities of of this team at THIS MOMENT.

Given those realities Shannon and Nix put together a game-plan that fit our strengths and minimized our weaknesses.

That's what every coach in America does every weak.

Now if you want to say we could've done this and that, well, that's all speculation.

THE FACTS, however, of how much this team has improved in one year seem to be of no interest to you. So why bother talking about anything until we're playing like 2001 again?

The fact that you are bound and determined to bash Shannon for whatever reason is abundantly clear.

So enjoy it while you can. Hahaha

moneycane

MANNY, what's the deal with J Mackinzie. Is he hurt or is he that far behind the others.

The U needs A coach

Posted by: Cane360 | September 11, 2008 at 04:26 PM

I've been stating it, if you don't agree then so be it. Read what i hav eposted and i have given my reasons why i don't think he has been getting the job done.

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