This blog written for Canespace by CanesGirlNC...
A local told me that Duke used to have a storied football program (you have to go waaaaay back) and was invited to the 1942 Rose Bowl to play Oregon State. That year the Rose Bowl was going to be canceled due to WWII when it was decided to play the Rose Bowl at Duke. They borrowed bleachers from UNC and NC State to boost capacity. Duke lost that game to Oregon State.
Fast forward 66 years. Two football teams – each with a past storied program met at Wallace Wade Stadium on October 18, 2008. Believe it or not there are some other similarities here. Both schools are private research institutions and both schools had quarterbacks from Miami on Saturday.
“Thad (Lewis QB for the Blue Devils seen here) taught me to play the quarterback position when we were kids in Opa Locka Park” Jacory Harris said in an interview several days prior to the game, “so you could say he is responsible for me being here”.
At game’s end when the Canes kneeled in the center of the field there were several blue devil uniforms that joined them. It was a great game and your Hurricanes have heart, do not know the word “quit” and have faith in themselves.
The Princeton-modeled campus is beautiful and the pictures capture some, but not all, of its beauty. The following are pictures of the campus, RM in warm up, Sebastian calling on a higher power, me and my daughter, a mascot of some type for Duke that posed for a pic and threw up the U without being asked (even he knows)!
The comments are now in ascending order with the most recent comment appearing FIRST at the TOP of the page.
Posted by: SOUP | October 22, 2008 at 12:42 AM
Larry Brodsky
Posted by: SOUP | October 22, 2008 at 12:43 AM
Great article, CGNC...
We gotta finish every week and I appreciate you highlighting that, particularly when folk get down on us b/c it was only Duke. We finished -- period.
86, I guess changing the order keeps us guessing --- just the opposite of what Coach Shannon is trying to do with the QB's. What'll happen when Marve has a great game, cause we all know what'll happen if he doesn't...
Good week in practice as far as I've heard...LOT's of strong/ focused...effort and the D is grooving more than recent.
'zall bout dem CANES!
Go CANES...
Posted by: darCANEgel | October 22, 2008 at 12:49 AM
The Hurricanes are coming off a 49-31 ACC Coastal Division road win at Duke, which snapped a six-game conference losing streak. Freshman quarterback Jacory Harris threw a career-high four touchdown passes and ran for another touchdown. He completed 18-of-28 passes for 185 yards and rushed 10 times for 53 yards. He was first Miami quarterback since Kyle Wright against Wake Forest in 2005 to toss four TDs. He also was the first Hurricane since Wright to account for five touchdowns in a game.
Freshman receiver Aldarius Johnson caught a career-high eight receptions for 84 yards and a touchdown against the Blue Devils. He now leads the team with 20 catches for 195 yards and two touchdowns.
Defensively, safety Anthony Reddick matched a career-high with 12 tackles while linebacker Darryl Sharpton added 10 tackles in the Duke game. Senior linebacker Glenn Cook leads the team with 45 total tackles which includes a team-best seven tackles for loss. Reddick and Sharpton both have 42 tackles on the season. The Hurricanes are 21st nationally in overall defense and 20th in rushing defense.
Posted by: SOUP | October 22, 2008 at 12:50 AM
DarC...thanks for the practice update. Another BIG week in the ACC with Wake coming to town.
This format is MUCH better I think with the most recent post showing at the TOP of the page. We will see...
Posted by: SOUP | October 22, 2008 at 12:52 AM
One thing that was very noticable (again, i wasn't there but this is what I was told) was there wasn't alot of happy/ smiling/ patting on the back -- BS so far this week. Focused, attentive, -- the kids (seem) to be hitting a mid-season stride. When was the last time we could say that?
Not saying they will win this week -- but I AM saying they seem to be TOGETHER --- and ready to play.
Gotta love the babycanes showing their grit...God bless'm!
BTW...I know that the schedules are made YEARS in advance...but what ever happened to having a patsy for HomeComing? Come on, NOW!
GO CANES
Posted by: darCANEgel | October 22, 2008 at 12:58 AM
http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/columnists/story/735844.html
I haven't heardy any discussion of Jacory's father's comments, but I don't expect that to last.
Posted by: hclip | October 22, 2008 at 01:03 AM
Oct. 21, 2008
ESPNU coverage... and Larry Coker (color analyst).
Game Notes
WAKE FOREST DEMON DEACONS AT MIAMI HURRICANES
Date: Saturday, Oct. 25, 2008
Location: Dolphin Stadium - Prescription AthleticTurf (Natural Grass), (74,916) in Miami Gardens, Fla.
Kickoff: Noon (ET)
TV: The game will be broadcast nationally on ESPNU, with Dave Armstrong (play by play) and Larry Coker (color analyst).
Tape Delay Telecast: On CSS, Tuesday Oct. 28 at 1 p.m. and 7 p.m., with announcers Jason Solodkin (play-by-play) and K.C. Jones (color).
Local Radio:The Hurricanes Radio Network (WQAM 560 AM) will carry the game live with Joe Zagacki (play by play), Don Bailey Jr. (analysis) and Brian London (sideline reporter). Fans can also listen online at www.wqam.com.
Radio En Espanol: The game will broadcast in Spanish on 1450 ESPN Deportes (1450 AM) with Joe Pujala (play by play) and Joe Martinez (analysis).
Websites: Miami (www.hurricanesports.com) and Wake Forest (www.wakeforestsports.com)
Posted by: Cat5 Cane | October 22, 2008 at 07:40 AM
Kenny McMillan
Posted by: TJL | October 22, 2008 at 08:10 AM
See CBS Video's, top left... Canes Preview Wake Forest and discuss The Duke Game... with players and coaches.
Good Stuff
Posted by: Cat5 Cane | October 22, 2008 at 08:21 AM
CanesgirlNC, Good article! That mascot thing looks like he may be close kin to Princetons "Keggy the Keg".
Other teams stupid mascots really make you appreciate a "Masco-Stud like Sebastian the Ibis!
GO CANES-----------BEAT wake forest!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: NativeCane | October 22, 2008 at 08:24 AM
Coker spent his last few years torturing US,
now he's gonna color analUS.
Posted by: NativeCane | October 22, 2008 at 08:29 AM
It is time for me now to say: I TOLD U SO!!!
New from Manny:
"But there's a reason freshman Aldarius Johnson now leads the team with 20 catches for 195 yards. He's not only physically imposing at 6-2, 205 pounds and probably the best receiver at squaring his shoulders to make the catch on the team, but Miami's offense has been tailored to his strength -- those short passes where UM receivers have to muscle their way to the ball and for yardage.
The Hurricanes simply aren't throwing the ball very deep downfield. Aside from Graig Cooper's 51-yard touchdown pass to Travis Benjamin, Miami's longest completions of the season have been a 36-yard catch and run by Dedrick Epps, the 29-yard strike Kayne Farquharson hauled in late against North Carolina, the 26-yard TD pass Thearon Collier scored on against Texas A&M and the 27-yard catch and run Aldarius Johnson had late against FSU. The rest of UM's completions have been 20 yards and under.
"I know that nobody can really stick [Aldarius] unless they know he's running the go route and they're playing off," Jacory Harris said Tuesday. "Aldarius is not that fast, but on the other hand, Aldarius is the guy that is going to make that for sure catch. He just knows how to adjust the ball."
> That being said, "Glue Hands" has still been balling lately. Despite going without a catch against UCF, he's had 13 catches in his last three games. Shannon said Tuesday he's taken another step up in his development and Hill said its because he's now learned how to fight for balls -- something he excelled at in high school -- at the college level.
Shannon said Johnson, who has often been compared to former Cane Andre Johnson for his physical play, size and soft hands, is probably "a tad step slower" than the former first round pick was when he was a freshman. Johnson took a page from Denver quarterback Jay Cutler (who said he has a better arm than John Elway) and said he believes he'll be faster than Andre when he's a junior.
The good thing is, Aldarius will get plenty of encouragement from Andre to be better than him. Aldarius met Andre when he was in the seventh grade when he used to come to UM to watch him practice and the two have maintained a friendship for awhile. Aldarius said Andre will often call him on gameday to give him words of encouragement. "He calls me and tells me to have a great game," Aldarius said Tuesday. "He called me the week before against Central Florida. He just calls me his little brother, that's it."
Posted by: SOUP | October 22, 2008 at 08:36 AM
" I am not trying to sound down but call me underwhelmed with our performance. Dont get me wrong I am happy with the win but I am not ready to say that we have turned the corner.'
That is as wise as you have ever been since you've posted on this site and I concur with your thoughts 1,000,000%
Posted by: The Truth | October 21, 2008 at 11:41 PM
Truth, this statement coming from you melts my heart. J/k
Posted by: jimmy | October 22, 2008 at 08:59 AM
Spread is a dying breed, Danielson says
By Jack Bogaczyk
Daily Mail Sports Editor
IF it's a good spread that Gary Danielson wants, chances are he's looking at a buffet line rather than the football field.
Danielson, in my book, is the premier college football game telecast analyst. He works Southeastern Conference games for CBS -- in other words, the big games. A former Purdue and 12-year NFL quarterback, Danielson isn't afraid to say what he thinks.
Since an SEC visitor to these parts has been rare -- Auburn plays at WVU a week from tonight -- a call to Danielson for a primer was in order. He delivered much more than frank analysis on the suddenly struggling Tuberville Tigers.
WVU is in its eighth season running a spread option offense, and Auburn tried it -- with great success in last season's Chick-fil-A Bowl against Clemson, and then with such ineptness that the Tigers (4-3) are ranked No. 108 in total offense and already have fired offensive coordinator Tony Franklin.
Danielson, 57, also recently made a comment to a newspaper in his native city (Detroit) that should enrage Michigan followers and warm those in these parts who are reveling in the 2-4 start at the Big House by former WVU Coach Rich Rodriguez, who took his spread to Ann Arbor.
"What I said, and it was before the season, was that I think the spread has peaked, like the wishbone did in the mid-70s," Danielson said by phone Tuesday. "I predict that Michigan will be the last of the top major programs running only the spread.
"It's going to go the opposite way, and it's going to go back to the way LSU, Ohio State, USC and Alabama are using it.
"Instead of teams going more to it, I think you'll see teams going to it as part of an offense. The top schools can get the best talent. For them, there's no need to do it ... I love it as a part of my package, not as the only package."
Danielson, who will work the CBS telecast of Ole Miss' visit to No. 2 Alabama on Saturday with play-by-play veteran Verne Lundquist, said West Virginia's use of the spread isn't as much of a stretch as it is at programs that can recruit superior talent.
"What has West Virginia gotten, maybe three of the top 150 players in the last five years?" Danielson figured. "When you're in that situation, I can see it, because you need to keep people off balance, and the spread can do that.
"Still, it's somewhat of a high-wire attack, and as West Virginia has learned recently, when you're quarterback (Pat White) gets nicked, you lose your passing game and a good part of your running game. You go away from that, and it's not a great fit.
"When an Alabama, LSU or Ohio State falls (from their offensive scheme), they land on the sidewalk, brush off the scratch and walk away. When a Missouri, Kansas or West Virginia falls from the high wire, they break their legs. You've got to have more that you can do."
Danielson said Auburn's move to the spread "just didn't fit the mindset there. To (Coach) Tommy Tuberville's credit, he properly cut it out quickly."
The mindset at Michigan is similar.
Danielson's opinion is that Rodriguez's introduction of the no-huddle spread at Michigan "was just too much of a culture shock. I'm not saying Rich won't succeed there.
"What I'm saying is that he shouldn't put all of his eggs in the spread basket. He doesn't need that. Michigan can get the players so he doesn't need to do that.
"The spread officially peaked (early this season) when I saw Michigan spread out and running a fake snap count, (with the quarterback) looking to the sideline, trying to fool Miami of Ohio ... which Michigan used to just line up and run over."
The CBS analyst recalled a conversation he had with Oklahoma Coach Bob Stoops about the Sooners moving away from the spread. After Stoops said he wins with defense first, he told Danielson he was going back to more I-formation sets "because we can recruit downhill(-running) tailbacks."
Danielson said the spread's weakness was displayed late in the Illinois-Missouri season opener when Mizzou needed one more first down to seal the win, "and on third-and-3 they had nobody in the backfield to run the ball except (Heisman Trophy-candidate QB) Chase Daniel.
"I don't mean we're going back to grind-it-out football. I think every team will have to have their four-receiver sets, but I think in the future coaches are going to realize they have to be able to hand the ball to the tailback, too."
Posted by: jimmy | October 22, 2008 at 09:04 AM
Nice New System SOUP - so I guess I am FIRST as of this moment. Do I get a free shirt for a cheap effort?
Posted by: ChicagoCane | October 22, 2008 at 09:12 AM
Good job Canesgirl. I have been out of the canes loop for a couple of days. I am not sure what typepad's reasons are for changing this format but I guess we have to live with it.
I know u don't like politics 86 but Nick and I went to the Obama Rally on Monday. We sat in line from 10:00am to 3:00pm and then hillary and Obama went on at six. Nick and I were 20ft from the stage and all I have to say it was amazing!! We were squashed into a tiny spot and truly I almost passed out but worth every minute. The pictures of the crowd behind me I took was just amazing. We meet the nicest people and I was networking for employment. WOW.
I wish I was going to the game but the Angry/Canechic family will have to stay home. Trying to save some money because employment opportunities are looking pretty bleak.
GO CANES!!!
Posted by: canechic | October 22, 2008 at 10:03 AM
I just read the comments from Jacory's dad- I hope this does not turn into a drama-would be a shame.
Go Canes
Posted by: canechic | October 22, 2008 at 10:06 AM
Jacory's dad was talking smack even before he committed. I wouldn't listen to that dude.
GO CANEZ!!!!!
Posted by: Canez1 | October 22, 2008 at 10:26 AM
hurriphin....the U. aldarius is cash! if he finishes his 4yrs., I promise he breaks moss' career rec yds.(2463?), wayne's career rec(193?), and irvin's career rec. tds(26). also, if jacory is ever given full custody, he'll pass walsh's sngl. ssn. td pass mark(29).
Posted by: hurriphin | October 22, 2008 at 10:32 AM
hurriphin....the U. aldarius is cash! if he finishes his 4yrs., I promise he breaks moss' career rec yds.(2463?), wayne's career rec(193?), and irvin's career rec. tds(26). also, if jacory is ever given full custody, he'll pass walsh's sngl. ssn. td pass mark(29).
Posted by: hurriphin | October 22, 2008 at 10:35 AM
hurriphin....the U. aldarius is cash! if he finishes his 4yrs., I promise he breaks moss' career rec yds.(2463?), wayne's career rec(193?), and irvin's career rec. tds(26). also, if jacory is ever given full custody, he'll pass walsh's sngl. ssn. td pass mark(29).
Posted by: hurriphin | October 22, 2008 at 10:37 AM
hurriphin....the U. aldarius is cash! if he finishes his 4yrs., I promise he breaks moss' career rec yds.(2463?), wayne's career rec(193?), and irvin's career rec. tds(26). also, if jacory is ever given full custody, he'll pass walsh's sngl. ssn. td pass mark(29).
Posted by: hurriphin | October 22, 2008 at 10:38 AM
hurriphin....the U. aldarius is cash! if he finishes his 4yrs., I promise he breaks moss' career rec yds.(2463?), wayne's career rec(193?), and irvin's career rec. tds(26). also, if jacory is ever given full custody, he'll pass walsh's sngl. ssn. td pass mark(29).
Posted by: hurriphin | October 22, 2008 at 10:41 AM
Soup that's an interesting solution.
I like Aldarius self-confidence. That's the #1 ingredient for being a Cane. I think he could become at least as fast and agile as Andre by his junior year. He's clearly under-muscled for his frame, but he's still ballin', he's just not exploding. I think he can though, like Byrd and all the other underclassmen WRs.
Darc, that's good to hear about the focus, team focus. I think that Duke game was something of a growth game, more than A&M for example. And I still like our chances against Wake because their offense is borderline anemic and their defense has shown some holes of late, especially against the pass.
But our OL will have a more difficult challenge against their front-seven than Duke's.
It will be another measurement of growth.
Posted by: Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer | October 22, 2008 at 10:56 AM
Gary Danielson knows what he's talking about. He should be coaching somewhere.
Posted by: Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer | October 22, 2008 at 10:57 AM
Another classic from the Peebster....
"Jimmy the same people annointing Jacory are the same people who blasted him playing in the first place because it disrupted Marve's "flow"...
Solar has poo pooed dumpster diving of prior posts, but if the ghost of blogging past were to string together the opinions of some, it would make last week's stock market ride seem stable."
Posted by: pb(CSHOF09) | October 21, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Posted by: Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer | October 22, 2008 at 11:01 AM
It is articles like this that make me think that Miami is building somehting in the football world that will be the likes of the Automic Bomb in the militar world.
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/colleges/um/story/735742.html
I think I will start refering to the Randy Shannon regime as the Manhattan Project.
Posted by: Cane Since 1982 | October 22, 2008 at 11:08 AM
Chi, have you gotten a chance to watch the Duke game?
Posted by: jimmy | October 22, 2008 at 11:08 AM
It is articles like this that make me think that Miami is building somehting in the football world that will be the likes of the Automic Bomb in the militar world.
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/colleges/um/story/735742.html
I think I will start refering to the Randy Shannon regime as the Manhattan Project.
Posted by: Cane Since 1982 | October 22, 2008 at 11:10 AM
damn typepad.
Posted by: Cane Since 1982 | October 22, 2008 at 11:10 AM
BY BARRY JACKSON
bjackson@MiamiHerald.com
It will be fascinating to see how UM coach Randy Shannon manages this quarterback situation over time -- a challenge reinforced this week when Jacory Harris' father said both players eventually ``need to be starters whether it's [here or elsewhere].''
Shannon said Tuesday it's ''too far ahead to think about'' whether redshirt freshman Robert Marve and Harris, a freshman, would continue splitting time throughout their careers.
''As long as we keep winning and this thing keeps rolling, I'm down for it,'' Marve said. Will this work long-term or does Shannon need to settle on one eventually?
''Honestly, I don't know,'' Marve said Tuesday. ``It seems to work right now. I'm good with it, he's good with it. I'm really not sure.''
But Harris' father, Rodney, said long-term, ``both want to be starters. Both need to be starters, whether it's at the University of Miami or somewhere else.
'In time, those kids are going to say, `I want to know I'm going to be the starter. I don't want to compete every year.' How does [Shannon] go about doing it? That's why he gets paid the big bucks. I think both kids love the University of Miami and will do everything in their power to make this work. Whether one or the other will transfer, I'm not sure.
''Jacory has never mentioned transferring,'' Rodney Harris said. ``Every year, we'll sit and look back at things. His heart is at UM and that's where he plans on being. If circumstances arise between now and the end of the year, who knows? We trust in his teammates and coaches.''
Rodney Harris said ``as a father, I would say [Harris] should start. It shouldn't be a question. I don't have anything against what [Shannon] is doing. Jacory feels he should be starting but he doesn't complain about it because he's a team player. He wants the best for the program but he wants the best for himself, too. He's done nothing but win. . . . You've got a kid [Marve] that's already been [announced] he's going to be the starter no matter what. I can imagine that's tough on a kid [Harris] that has displayed leadership qualities.''
Robert Marve said he ''would have loved'' a chance to use the no-huddle offense against Duke, as Harris did. ''I had one bonehead play,'' Marve said. ''Besides that, I thought I played great. . . . You may have to take one for the team and say it's on you and it wasn't.'' It helps that Marve and Harris never ''fight with each other,'' Robert Marve said. Marve's father, Eugene, who played 11 years in the NFL, said: ``I think coach Shannon is doing a good job managing the quarterbacks. Both are going to have to go through growing pains.''
I find it interesting that Marve makes this comment.
Robert Marve said he ''would have loved'' a chance to use the no-huddle offense against Duke, as Harris did. ''I had one bonehead play,'' Marve said. ''Besides that, I thought I played great. . . . You may have to take one for the team and say it's on you and it wasn't.''
What does this mean "You may have to take one for the team and say it's on you and it wasn't.''
Posted by: jimmy | October 22, 2008 at 11:11 AM
"Just watched the replay of the game. I am not trying to sound down but call me underwhelmed with our performance. Dont get me wrong I am happy with the win but I am not ready to say that we have turned the corner. marve looked great on that opening possession. Maybe the best he looked all season. Cant say much about the int though. Horrible play Also, after watching the game I can see why Randy is sticking with Marve. I like Jacory but from reading posts on here you would have thought he was slinging the ball all over the field like Marino. his int was almost as bad as marve's and his near pick 6 was really bad. None of this is to bash Jacory. Just pointing out my observations from the game. Marve might force randy's hand though if he keeps making stupid mistakes. To me marve still looks like the better qb."
Posted by: jimmy | October 21, 2008 at 09:57 PM
>>>>>>>>>
Jimmy, I agree with you. I still think Marve looks better running the entire offense and on that TD drive he looked great. That's what I've been trying to have someone explain to me-- what did he do on those other drives that ended in punts??
I don't think anyone's saying Jacory's Marino-like or even Dorsey-like, just yet. But this is the first time, as Soup said, that we've seen a series of strong drives by our QB since Dorsey.
Now the no-huddle tactic can't be a permanent feature and I think Jacory's comfort out of the gun accounts for a great deal of his success but it's still refreshing to see a Miami QB look like a Miami QB. And for Miami WRs to catch ball after ball after ball. How long has it been??? 2002 I'd say, with a series or two here and there.
Plus, going into Wake, I think it gives our team a boost, and Nix more confidence in calling plays he hadn't called all year. I don't have a problem with a regular diet of 9, 12 and 16 yard completions. The bombs and long YACs will come. Those shorter completions are the 3rd down conversion types that we haven't had since 2002, except for last year with Darnell.
So I don't know if we've turned a corner, so to speak, but we've learned some good things about our youngins', whereas before there was as much doubt as promise.
That's why I think we stand a good chance against Wake. As Truth said, now Nix can be more of a tactician and less of a nanny. It will be interesting to see how we attack them.
Posted by: Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer | October 22, 2008 at 11:13 AM
hurriphin....the U. aldarius is cash! if he finishes his 4yrs., I promise he breaks moss' career rec yds.(2463?), wayne's career rec(193?), and irvin's career rec. tds(26). also, if jacory is ever given full custody, he'll pass walsh's sngl. ssn. td pass mark(29).
Posted by: hurriphin | October 22, 2008 at 11:18 AM
Jimmy, I'm going to check 360 now and see if it's on replay.
Harris' dad sounds sensible in one sentence then silly in the next. Why is he opening his mouth in the 1st place?? If he knows so much about football he should see that Marve is ahead of Jacory in most of the offense but he's making some freshman mistakes. At the same time Jacory's had a very good game against an average team, just like Marve did against A&M. Jacory's made stupid mistakes like Marve as well.
And he must not listen to Shannon AT ALL because Shannon made it clear, "It doesn't matter who starts, it's who plays the most."
These football parents are almost as bad as tennis parents. lol
Posted by: Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer | October 22, 2008 at 11:20 AM
Hurriphin, we get the point. Maybe you want Soup to Vault your prediction. Is that the case??
Posted by: Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer | October 22, 2008 at 11:21 AM
sorry bout that quadruple double post....typepad is punishing me as of late!!! is this where my tax dollars are going?!?
Posted by: hurriphin | October 22, 2008 at 11:24 AM
AH HA!! it wasn't typepad, it was this punk azz new system! I call shananegins! shananegins I say!!
Posted by: hurriphin | October 22, 2008 at 11:31 AM
Soooo....we scroll down to the bottom of the page to post comment and up to the top to read the latest comments???
Posted by: DallasTX Cane | October 22, 2008 at 11:46 AM
Then, back down to the bottom to post another comment...
Seems like W's "plan" to lower gas prices via a recession...works, but isn't necessarily the plan that I'd have picked
Posted by: DallasTX Cane | October 22, 2008 at 11:47 AM
Chi, on the other drives where marve didnt score with the exception of the INT it has been the same crap. We run for 1 yard. 5 yard false start. 2nd and 14. 4 yard run. 3rd and 10 and we complete a pass for 7. punt. We continually put ourselves in 3rd and long. We have no intermediate passing game. I think I read somewhere that we only have like 5 pass plays over 20yards. I know people are going to read my post and think I am trying to be negative but I am not. I am trying to be a realist and I feel like the hyperbole by posters is out of whack with reality. I watched the game and while Jacory played well I just dont see it yet for everyone to be calling for him to start. None of his drives were more impressive than Marve's first. Jacory makes just as many mistakes as Marve. against D-1 comp there int ratio is almost the same. Jacory takes bad sacks while Marve doesnt. Marve takes chances deep and gets intercepted. jacory floats short balls right to the D. To me they make equal stupid mistakes. The next guy is always better than the current guy.
Its no different than
crudup>brock
kw>brock
kf>kw
marve>kw/kf
harris>marve
I jsut wish people would relax
Posted by: jimmy | October 22, 2008 at 11:49 AM
Cav and Jimmy,
But the difference between the two seems to lie in this statement right here:
''I had one bonehead play,'' Marve said. ''Besides that, I thought I played great. . . .
Great?
Really?
One speaks of humbling himself while the other feels like he's playing "great."
At least in a public forum, that doesn't come off very well...and I am sure it doesn't come off too well with the coaches either...I think the OC would beg to differ.
They are BOTH quality young QB's and BOTH could lead this team to a NC...I have NO doubt about that. But I do believe one of them has a better grasp on his current level of play while the other is a little too overconfident for his own sake.
Posted by: The Truth | October 22, 2008 at 11:54 AM
Truth, there is definitely some truth to that. When watching the games Jacory makes plenty of bonehead plays. marve probably needs to take the company line though
Posted by: jimmy | October 22, 2008 at 12:00 PM
The both are in similar levels of competency with the offense and both seem to make their share of mistakes. However, it is pretty obvious that JH doesn seem to see the field a little better. His decision making at Duke was no fluke (hey, I'm a poet and didn't even know it).
I honestly don't think either QB is better than the other for this team except with regards to their fram of mind on how well they are playing and how well they are progressing as QB's.
I'm not sure Marve is getting benched because he makes more mistakes as much as he is getting benched to humble him a little...
And don't let the Iron Sheik get a hold him LOL (that was a little Howard Stern reference for those of you that listen - the Sheik has lost his mond these days...)
Posted by: The Truth | October 22, 2008 at 12:08 PM
What plays on sat. did you see Jacory make that Marve doesnt? Just curious
Posted by: jimmy | October 22, 2008 at 12:14 PM
truth, its been awhile but dont you live in Pennsylvania. Phillies fan.
Posted by: jimmy | October 22, 2008 at 12:19 PM
This format is like watching Jeopardy.
You read the answer first and then see the question.
Posted by: The U needs A coach | October 22, 2008 at 12:21 PM
No Jimmy I live in sunny south FLA...between Kendall, Homestead and just about 3 mile markers south of Islamorada I spend about 80% of my time as warm as possible.
Posted by: The Truth | October 22, 2008 at 12:25 PM
...but I will be rooting for the Phillies...that lineup is sick...and if it ain't the Marlins I always root for the NL team.
Posted by: The Truth | October 22, 2008 at 12:27 PM
Is baseball still being played??
I thought they were on strike or something??LOL Who the fuk watches baseball anymore??
Rays vs. Phillies LMAO!!!
Ratings = (zero point zero) Truth, thats a stern reference right back at ya.
GO CANEZ!!!!!
Posted by: Canez1 | October 22, 2008 at 12:37 PM