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October 26, 2008

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SOUP

CONCH ASKS: "Can ANYONE tell me one or more plays where we have benefited from this package of d ends in 3rd and long situations? Cuz I can't, and I would love for one of the SPACERS to prove me wrong on this."

Here's MY answer: No I can't argue your point. It has NOT worked consistebntly this year. But, by the end of the season and going into NEXT year, watch out!

DC Young will have them learn it, the players will get it and when they do...it will be lights out!

OCALACANE

86...
Did U get the pics?
And mail...
Wide right? LMAO
Guess who I just got a text from? HMMM...

pb(CSHOF09)


I thought it was a great win.

We beat a legit team with a ton of experience and an officiating crew that obviously took Wake and the points.

I chalk this one up as one of the "we will also win some games we are supposed to lose..."

SOUP

Guess who I just got a text from? HMMM...

Posted by: OCALACANE | October 26, 2008 at 12:46 PM

S1 or S2? LOL

Checking for pics now...

Six

And everytime I hear Fox play that Rocky Theme, heading into a commercial after an inning ends ... I despise those movies, that much more.

I'm still a bit nauseous, and I think the Rays are as well - over the idiotic choice of the Backstreet Boys singing the national anthem, and turning it into their own "musical" (and I use that term with extreme sarcasm) abortion.

The Backstreet Boys? Really? I was surprised they didn't bring out O-Town, 98 Degrees or Color Me Badd to sing the national anthem for Game 2. You're telling me that they couldn't get ANYONE else to sing, but the Backstreet Boys? I don't CARE if one of those jackholes happened to have lived in the Tampa Bay area for 1 or 2 months - FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO SING IT.

Hearing them sing our country's song, made me want to crawl up into one of the catwalks at The Pit with a sniper rifle aimed at those idiots singing, and do the nation a HUGE favor by putting them down.

You don't turn the freaking national anthem into your own Teen Beat pop garbage song that you would put on one of your crap-tastic albums for a bunch of 8 year old girls to squeel over and have their parents waste their money on ... for some ungodly reason.

You sing the national anthem like it's supposed to be sung.

Do you ever hear anyone else, ANYWHERE, disgrace their national anthem when they sing it? You ever hear someone sing 'Oh, Canada' or 'God Save Our Queen', like how you hear people absolutely butcher our national anthem? Hell no.

Six

I'm sorry ... I meant, "God Save The Queen" - not 'God Save Our Queen'.

conch salad

soup,

I hope ur right, because theoretically it sounds like an amazing 3rd and long package. But it hasnt worked yet in the real world... Here's to hoping it does sooner than later!!!

Its gonna be so funny in 2 years when we are back on top of the college football world (where we belong) and that stafium starts filling out. Imagine the satisfaction in telling all the fairweather yackoffs all about watching this team grow up before our eyes... I can see it now

Fairweather yackoff: "Boy that number 31 sure is a good player, what's his name?"

Me: "let me tell u a lil story about sean sleepy spence...

FY: "huh I never knew that... And golly who is 57 he is a monster!"

Me: "yeah he hunts and eats possum"

FY: "are...you...SERIOUS?!"

Me: "yes, now stfu and let me watch my canes, u YACKOFF!"

CANES!!

macjones de albuquerque

How do you know how long it took our coaches to recognize what they were doing?? How many points did Wake score in the 1st half??

Posted by: Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer | October 26, 2008 at 11:09 AM

BLOWfly, don't U know who U be messin' with!! LOL

Yet, to follow up CHI PUN's notion... How many points did a veteran-ladden WF squad score in the SECOND-HALF.

BLOWfly, look at the big picture, the big picture regarding Team Shannon.

Yes, it would have been nice IF the Cane O would have scored another T.D. or FG. But would've, should've and or could've are for the Cane Bandwagoneer's. Nothing more and nothing less.

SOUP

Sam Shields

SOUP

Conch...great post! Let's hope the third down package get's it's groove on before the end of the season.

Macjones...overall nice blogging lately BTW.

OcalaCane's photos essay will appear on Monday night at 8 PM. Good stuff!

macjones

BTW, we REALLY, REALLY need Javarris back in the flow for this stretch. That one catch and run he made for a first down showed just how much more he brings to the table than any of our other backs.

He might even make the OL look better just because he has better vision and cutbacks and he can break more tackles.

Posted by: Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer | October 26, 2008 at 12:12 PM

It's only a guess, mind U, but perhaps James is still feeling "uncomfortable" concerning his ankle. He's probably no better than 85 PERCENT. Just pizzing in the win, so don't give moi no grief, Chi Pun. LOL

The Truth

Great win yesterday. The kids have bben repeating over and over about how they were in a dog fight and came out on top...

That hasn't happened in a while. The past couple of years the dog fights have gone to the bad guys more often often than not.

This isn't a moral victory, they won the actual game and they did it when things were not going well for them.

That's a big deal.

That's a team growing up.

Miami's biggest weakness is in the run defense. It's awful. They made some intersting adjustments to fix it this week but unless they get a new MLB ready and get a lot healthier on the DL it will be a problem the rest of the season.

Credit the staff though, for two weeks in a row teams have come out and run down their throats to start the game and Miami has found a way to fix it.

It was bizzare to watch Wake run the O. I kept waiting for them to start going over the top or at least over the middle and it never happened.

But in all fairness, there had to be a reason. It can't be that they just forgot how to call plays for a game...

...because wan't it this wake team that some of you used as the model for how great their staff was?

SOUP

From the Wake web site:

MIAMI (AP) - Robert Marve had a 1-yard touchdown run to put Miami ahead for good, Matt Bosher kicked three field goals, and the Hurricanes' defense stiffened considerably in the second half on the way to beating Wake Forest 16-10 on Saturday.

Marve completed 11 of 20 passes for 153 yards and set up the go-ahead score in the third quarter with a 43-yard rush, helping Miami (5-3, 2-2 Atlantic Coast Conference) win consecutive league games for the first time since October 2006.

Marve then hit Thearon Collier with a perfect 25-yard pass on third-and-10 with 3 minutes left, getting Miami to midfield and allowing the Hurricanes to run out the clock.

Josh Adams had 21 carries for 111 yards for Wake Forest (4-3, 2-2), which marched 66 yards for a touchdown on the game's first drive, but didn't find the end zone the rest of the day. The Demon Deacons rushed a season-high 52 times for 195 yards, but quarterback Riley Skinner was only 3-for-8 for 57 yards.

The Hurricanes avoided disaster in the closing minutes.

Bosher shanked a punt for only 15 yards, giving Wake Forest the ball at the Miami 46 with 4:24 left, but the Hurricanes' defense forced a quick three-and-out. Marve came back into the game with 3:13 left, found Collier with the big strike, and Wake Forest ran out of time outs from there.

The Demon Deacons rushed the ball on all 10 plays in a 66-yard, up-the-gut drive to open the game, capped by Mike Rinfrette's 1-yard touchdown.

Nothing about Miami's defensive front dissuaded Wake Forest from pounding away: The Demon Deacons ran the ball on each of their first 22 plays. Before Saturday, Wake hadn't had more than six consecutive run calls at any point this season. And by halftime, Wake Forest was up to 32 carries, only five shy of its per-game average.

But after the initial drive, Miami chipped away, getting a field goal from Bosher to cut the lead to 7-3, then the 52-yarder from Bosher on the first series of the second half - after Sam Shields took a handoff on the kick return and got the ball into Wake Forest territory - to come within 10-6.

A three-and-out by Wake followed, and Marve put together a seven-play, 65-yard drive to give Miami the lead for good.

macjones

Credit the staff though, for two weeks in a row teams have come out and run down their throats to start the game and Miami has found a way to fix it.

It was bizzare to watch Wake run the O. I kept waiting for them to start going over the top or at least over the middle and it never happened.

But in all fairness, there had to be a reason. It can't be that they just forgot how to call plays for a game...

...because wan't it this wake team that some of you used as the model for how great their staff was?

Posted by: The Truth | October 26, 2008 at 01:43 PM

Shannon, now, looks like the "genuis" for hiring "the elder" Bill Young away from Kansas. I can recall a few "skeptics" way back when, when he hired coach Young. Simply because he was coming form Kansas-Who! Who knows what would have happen IF Coach Shannon would've have hired someone else. This is one Cane fandom who's absolutely grateful for Young's presence on Team Shannon's D-staff!!

Concise point about the Hurricanes rush defense. Grobe is no Goober. He and his offensive staff viewed the film of Miami's games against F.S.U. and Duke. And U can bet your bottom Benjamin', that Groh and Beamer and Johnson are going to follow the same game plan that Grobe implemented against the Hurricanes.

Of course, we all know that Team Shannon's staff are aware of this, that's why the O has to bring it's A-GAME the rest of the season, in order to help out the YOUNG D!!

MidWestCane

Hey Legion,

Yesterday during the game the commentator mentioned that the University of Miami became the "Hurricanes" in 1925 due to a storm in the Atlantic that eventually hit the city. That was at least months after the UM was already established. However, they never said what the University called themselves before they renamed themselves -due to that storm. My question is:

What did UM call themselves before they swithed their name to "Hurricanes"?

Canewatcher

Why Randy isn't recruiting this guy?

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=76867

mi@mic@9

Still too many holes because we are playin true freshman and we still need to replace the old guard. Especially in the middle.We got to be able to pin our ears back and run up the gut. Even if its that zone blocking we did so well under Snell's and Erickson, i formation delayed runs almost like a draw.

Ill tell you what , these forearms out of bounds, think i saw two are going to be remembered by the future canes. We going to have some old fashion Cane beat downs. I can see it commin.


Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer

Conch, the only thing I can think is they save Adkins, Robinson and Smith for the 3rd down plays and rest Wesley and Ojomo. If Moncur weren't hurt, Ojomo would be handling more of the 3rd down work.

I think they're just trying to make the most of a difficult situation.

Remember, THIS IS NOT 2001. We don't have the players who can go all 3 downs and do run and pass work. We're a couple of years and about 10 DL from that.

Fortunately we don't play any pass happy teams for the rest of the season.

solarcane

mid

Miami Warriors is what I always heard
peace

MidWestCane

"All I hear is, "Why did it take them so long to adjust?"

All you fools need to go coach football somewhere or shut the cheese pipe. This BS is old.

Posted by: Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer | October 26, 2008 at 11:55 AM"

Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer is STILL holding down the fort!

My man.

And - you are absolutly right. Marve's balls are looking a lot better. His speed is also something to be very encouraged about. And Nix did called that run.

The untold story, so far, is that OUR FRESHMEN IS BEATING SENIORS. And they are doing it in an humble manner, dispite the Cheap shots and all.


MidWestCane

Solar,

The Warriors? Sounds like the intent was good - but now, a very small way, I grateful for that storm. I.e., I glad they changed it to the Hurricanes.

Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer

Truth, yeah, I was talking about Wake as an example of what a coaching staff can achieve from one year to the next. Of course this was when I expected our upperclassmen to really step up more.

Macjones, yes, yes and yes to the above.

VT doesn't have a choice. Groh seems to have a choice and I expect him to mix it up. And GT doesn't do much but run.

So, Micanor Regis is going to gain A TON of experience over these next few weeks. If Josh Holmes can give us some quality minutes down the stretch that would be huge. That would give us about six DTs and we'll need all of them.

It's going to be tough-sleddin' regardless. But it's good. This win was a gut-check win. Our boys wanted it more than Wake and they delivered.

solarcane

mid,
I'm not even sure they ever played using that name.
My family has been in South Florida since there was a South Florida and I remember hearing that a few times.
I have only known them as The Canes, and later da "U"
peace

Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer

Mac, if we can get 15 touches, quality touches from Javarris this week it could be the difference in the game.

And when does Chambers come back?? We're really down to two backs again, and McNeal is still learning. It seems only yesterday we were talking about how deep our RBs corps was. lol

solarcane

Ojomo said if he didn't have an equipment failure on that play and his facemask and helmet didn't fall down over his face WF would have never scored that td.

I'm thinking if you tackle real good your helmet can come completely off and you still make the play.

I'm just thinking this... not saying it out loud,
mostly for fear I would look like the guy in the Jack Links commercials if Ojomo heard me.

peace

Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer

"Why Randy isn't recruiting this guy?"

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=76867

Posted by: Canewatcher | October 26, 2008 at 03:23 PM


>>>>>>>>>

Canewatcher, I can only think grades. Smith is very talented indeed, lightning fast. He might be a better WR than CB. Grades or the fact that we already have enough DBs in this class.

I'm sure one of our recruiting experts could offer better insight. haha

Canez1, BG, Supercooper....

MidWestCane

"And am I the only one who thought Coker wanted Wake to stop us and get the ball back?? He said something like, "All they have to do is stop Miami here and get the ball back."

Hater. hahahahahaha

Posted by: Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer | October 26, 2008 at 11:55 AM"


Cavaleer,

To answer your question - No. I saw what you saw along with other slick sh!t he (Larry Smoker) was attempting to pull. Does anyone remember the comments he made about our two young QB's? - He attempted to make it into something it is not - a QB controversy. He kept stressing how both of our QBs won't be happy splitting time here at Miami and that they will go somewhere else if Randy doesn't decide soon on a starter. The other commentator indicated that our QB's expressed being happy in at UM and in this system. But Smoker just kept on. Slimemy Little Devil!!!!

canechic

go canes

Loco

Remember, THIS IS NOT 2001. We don't have the players who can go all 3 downs and do run and pass work. We're a couple of years and about 10 DL from that.

Fortunately we don't play any pass happy teams for the rest of the season.

Posted by: Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer | October 26, 2008 at 03:43 PM

In 2001 the players DID NOT go all 3 downs. we had a PHENOMENAL 8-man rotation that kept each lineman fresh

Blowfly

Cav - I had to leave and you beat me over the head while I was gone. My point is this - in my opinion - WF did very very little to give themselves a chance to win. Of course we started to shut them down but almost any team could based on their gameplan. It's a win, yes. Momentum, yes. Coaching, improving. But I feel WF had more to do with it than us. That's it.

MidWestCane

Legion,

Just Who picks the commentator to commentate our games anyway. Because, frankly, Coaker is the worse choice.

First of all, his opinions, his very words, is valueless to the vast majority of Cane fans anywhere. I mean, how can he suggest whether or not Miami should go for it on 4th down or not, whether the choice is a good one or not, what he would have done differently for the betterment of the team. Anything he would say would only aggitate the fans.

Second, fans watch the game for the euphoria of being a winner - that is the entertainment pupose in watching the game. - But Coaker's mere presence alone - kill's any such feeling. Like I have posted once before:

"A Good Win Canes.

Three Straight W's. We're 5-3 now. Second in our division. And we control our destiny. Way to go Baby Canes!


Just next time, and especially doing the game, can we (the fans) do without - the OPINIONS of THE absolute worse Coach in recent memory - you know, the coach that almost did our football program completely in. Jeesss!

Listening to Larry Coaker doing the game, not to mention in our rebuilding years, is like having sex - while GRANDMA is looking!

Posted by: MidWestCane | October 25, 2008 at 04:12 PM"


Coaker gives more of an - impotent type feeling, which make a fan want to hit the bottle excessively before and during the game. But alcohol only brings about excessive Anger. But it is a Defense Mechanism. Proof - Just re-read the blogs and newspaper over the years during Smokers post 2001 years. Homicidal tendicies only begins to describe it.

And the most amazing thing about the effect that he has on the crime-rate going up in south florida is that the effect is all psychological. Its called - The Coaker Effect!!! It effects fans too. One doesn't alway know when one is infected, does one?

It is a good thing the Canes won yesterday, because I don't know how the fans would have coped with the pschological build up of frustration and intense rage accumelated through 3 hours of subliminal messaging from Larry Coaker.

Please, someone, save us from this man.

SOUP

Chuck Foreman

SOUP

New Manny:

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2008/10/canes-picked-to.html

Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer

Blow, I'm not trying to beat you over the head. My point is that so many people want to complain and never, ever congratulate this staff on what they've achieved with these kids.

As for Wake's strategy, I think that depends on your perspective. To this point of the season Wake had been running a semi-spread, dink and dunk offense. Shannon even said that's what he expects in the Wake preview on CBS4.

So Grobe looks at the footage of Duke, UNC and FSU and says, I'm going to completely flip the script and run the ball down their throats, wear them out so that by the 4th we can run play-action and win going away.

So that's what they did, and for 1 quarter the plan seemed to be working well. It's similar to what the UCF DBs did, playing something they had never played before. It through our youngins for a loop. It did the same with Wake but the defense responded better than our offense.

Then the defense stiffened and in the second half shut 'em down altogether.

Grobe gambled that we wouldn't be able to stop them, and if you look at our track record, he wasn't going out on a limb.

But our players and coaches responded.

If you watch Shannon post-game talk he said he was surprised about Wake's attack until he "remembered Grobe's background of ball control and field position."

I think this game was a great, great win, for the reasons above, and because it's the sort of smash-mouth game we'll be seeing for the rest of the season. Our boys will be ready.

pb(CSHOF09)


Santana Moss

MidWestCane

"My point is this - in my opinion - WF did very very little to give themselves a chance to win. Of course we started to shut them down but almost any team could based on their gameplan. It's a win, yes. Momentum, yes. Coaching, improving. But I feel WF had more to do with it than us. That's it.

Posted by: Blowfly | October 26, 2008 at 04:56 PM"


Blowfly,

If you are saying that WF really lacked a sound game plan or if they even had a game plan at all (- ". . . almost any team could based on their gameplan") then how could you judge either way whether our game plan was good or not? I mean what do you have to compare it to?

Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer

Midwest, dam, Medioker was really letting it show I see.

ESPN are a bunch of lowlife dipsh*ts, that's why they put the most hated Miami coach ever to cover our games.

I'm just glad his jealousy is coming through so people can stop saying he's a man of character and integrity and all that other cacka. lol

Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer

Solar, what exactly was Ojomo referring to with that quote about his equipment??

SOUP

MARVE ON THE MOVE: Robert Marve scampered 43 yards to set up UM's go ahead score in the third quarter. The rush marked the second longest rush from scrimmage this year (Cooper, 51 vs. Texas A&M). The run was the longest by a UM quarterback since October 30, 1993 when Ryan Collins recorded a 51 yard TD run in a 42-7 win over Temple in the Orange Bowl. It is the second longest rush by a UM quarterback in the last 25 years.

Longest QB Rushes (since 1983)
Yards Player Opponent
51(TD) Ryan Collins Temple (1993)
43 Robert Marve Wake Forest (2008)
31 Kirby Freeman Virginia Tech (2006)
31 Kyle Wright Virginia (2005)
31 Kenny Kelly East Carolina (1999)
31 Craig Erickson Pittsburgh (1989)
30 Jacory Harris Charleston Southern (2008)

SOUP

MARVE GOES DEEP: Robert Marve connected on a 48 yard pass to Travis Benjamin marking a career-long pass for the redshirt freshman and the longest pass completion by a UM quarterback this season. Sophomore running back Graig Cooper has the longest pass completion this year, a 51-yard TD pass to Benjamin against Florida State.

BIG PLAY BENJAMIN: Freshman Travis Benjamin has been Miami's big play performer this year. His 48-yard reception in the first quarter marked his team leading sixth play of over 30 yards this season. It was also the fifth longest play this season for a Hurricane. Benjamin owns four of the six longest playes this year.

Overall the Hurricanes have recorded 18 plays of over 30 yards.

SOUP

BOSHER ON TARGET: Sophomore kicker Matt Bosher recorded a career-long 52-yard FG in the third quarter marking his second FG of 50 or more yards this season (50 vs. Florida). Bosher also recorded a 36 yard FG in the first quarter and a 43 yarder in the fourth quarter. He has now connected on 12-of-13 FG this season.

bhamcanesfan

And what's up with Coker talking about the importance of recruiting in South Florida. I thought I was the only one who caught that. He just blows as a commentator.

MidWestCane

"I'm just glad his jealousy is coming through so people can stop saying he's a man of character and integrity and all that other cacka. lol

Posted by: Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer | October 26, 2008 at 05:30 PM"


CP-C,

What people don't reallize or question when they say that "he's a man of character and integrity" is the proof of it. I mean, why didn't that character show or transfer to his players? What was the results of his alleged Character and Integrity? Those two words have substance and a meaning. They are not just empty words or sayings to pin on someone who we happend to like or because a certain individual is nice. Those words, like anything else, have a meaning which suggest a manifestation of a type of behavior.

Was Coaker Character good or bad? People need to ask that question rather than merely he is a man of character.

One thing I know, the results of his character did not help the Canes.

MidWestCane

"And what's up with Coker talking about the importance of recruiting in South Florida. I thought I was the only one who caught that. He just blows as a commentator.

Posted by: bhamcanesfan | October 26, 2008 at 05:47 PM"


bhamcanesfan,

Exactly!

Now what kind of character does that portray - Hypocracy, a lack of prudence and judgement, and much, much, more?

Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer

BHam, it sounds like he was really showing his Mediokrity. I'm almost glad I didn't see it. lol

Canechic, yeah, I thought the game would be on 360 but it wasn't. Apologies for the late reply. I missed it at the bottom of the page as I was flipping. lol

bhamcanesfan

He just didn't have the personality to lead the program and it showed yesterday when he did the commentary. You can tell he is still bitter and sour about how he was let go. A national title doesn't insure you from getting fired as a coach at a major university.

darCANEgel

I'm sure y'all have already commented on the Pope article from today (but it's hard to tell with the new typepad format). It's great to see at least SOME positive press coming from the Herald...

This is UVA's wrap of their game @ GTech.
Kinda similar to our game in that it was a huge comeback win that'll give them big Mo heading into this week: http://www.dailyprogress.com/cdp/sports/cavalier_insider/ci_football/article/cavs_claim_control_of_coastal/30184/

Peerman's definitely got a target on his back. Gotta stop that kid, yo.

Right now 'they' predict perfect weather in the Blue Ridge foothills for our next victory.

LETS
GO
CANES!

solarcane

chi
ojomo was saying he could get in the backfield and make plays. He said his equipment broke and his facemask slipped down over his eyes on the touchdown.

peace

SOUP

The Hurricanes

It began in controversy. Some reports say the 1927 football team held a team meeting to select Hurricanes, hoping they would sweep away opponents just as the devastating storm did on September 16, 1926.

Another version holds that Miami News columnist Jack Bell asked end Porter Norris of the 1926 team what the team should be called. Told that the local dignitaries and University officials wanted to name the team for a local flora or fauna, Norris said the players wouldn't stand for it and suggested “Hurricanes” since the opening game had been postponed by such a storm.

From time to time, opposition has arisen to the name that would “reinforce Miami’s negative reputation as a weather-beaten community living constantly under the threat of destruction.”

But as one UM official rationalized in the 60’s, “Does anyone think Chicago is overrun by bears just because the town has a football team by that name?

solarcane

Bosher on his green shoes.

They had the green ones and baby blue ones that was it. I didn't think the baby blue would work with an orange and green uniform.

On how he is playing.
(paraphrased)

I love being out on the field with these great athletes, I'll do anything it takes for this team to win.
If I have to stay on the sideline and cheer them on, then that's what I would do
peace

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