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January 24, 2009

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Esteban

Should have waited

8th Man in da Box

Let's just get the deal inked. I could care less as to when it's officially announced. I want RS to get the most bang for you buck here.

I'm just hoping this is finalized....I'd hate for this to backfire b/c the info was linked prematurely.

VaCanesFan

Although this will be great news when announced, let us wait for the official announcement before we get goo ga ga on it. It is exciting but the U and the Randy man have yet to make it official.

VaCanesFan

One of the things that concerns me is how his record will translate to big time college ball. I remember a long time ago, when BC was set to play U Mass in the 1980's, and U Mass was coming off an undefeated season. I asked my friend from the Boston area whether an upset was possible. He laughed and said it was a men versus boys thing. And sure enough, BC pasted them. Now, that was the eighties and all, but how good is the record? He didn't go 12-0 in any season he was head coach. His teams mostly had at least three losses. Now JJ had the same before he came here too, but let us not get too hyped up about the hire. He is going to help but it will take time.

Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer

Soup, I think you handled it well..."projecting" being the key word. It keeps you out of the "traditional news agencies" arena and responsibility.

Plus, I'm sure Rivals and Scout and a few others are already running with it, so what difference does it make at this point.

Rock on..

Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer

VA, you're shooting yourself in the foot over a commodity you/we don't really know. We DO know, however, that his offenses set records year after year. Whether his entire team went undefeated or not is IRRELEVANT.

He's not here to coach the team. He's here to orchestrate the offense.

Combined with the last four years in the NFL, I see no reason why it must "take time."

He's worked with two of the best and most talented QBs in the league and with two of the best teams over the last ten years. Why does it have to take time??

By this point in his career, his skills are sharp, sharp, sharp, and he's naturally sharp, so allow yourself a moment or two of joy before you start picking him apart and worrying.

Shannon hit a Grand Slam with this one. He was the top of the list and not very likely for all sorts of reasons.

Tip your hat to Shannon and give credit where it's due.

Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer

Did some research on Whip...Very interesting

http://www.igglesblog.com/iggles_blog/philadelphia_eagles/page/8/
Posted by: FAMUCane | January 24, 2009 at 01:42 AM

montecarloson22@aol.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7MpEHcbKro

pb(CSROH09)


Lets hope this pans out.

If it does it will serve as confirmation that a coach of this caliber sees unlimited offensive potential on our team already.

Let's face it, this guy could have gone anywhere and he came here.

Thats a good thing.

Go Canes.

JLF

monte
saw that clip last week it is very good

1caneinatl

monte-- great clip! we're healing and we're fighting our way out of hell!!!

if whip is it then bring it on!

ObviousCane

As the Whipple turns....Day 2

Cat5 Cane

Mark Whipple

Agree with all spacers that are pro active.

He knows offense and plays that work.

Has a wealth of experience to draw from and will take us to the next level.

His maturity will bring a calming effect during difficult times, when needed.

Clock management... No problem!

Has ability to evaluate players and bring the cream to the top... To be known as "The Whipple Factor" from here forward... LOL

Extremely Strong credentials and experience as a QB coach and all QB's will grow from his expertise... Check! Check!

Game Day planning... Check!

Upper Management experience dealing with Assistant Coaches... Check!

Life time winning records as a coach... check!

Randy... Guru Rating... Check!Check!,Check!

ObviousCane

I hope we can get the whipplenomics done with soon...

SuperCooper

It is Whipple's world, we are just living in it.

ObviousCane

Whats the latest super?

SuperCooper

As far as the DC candidate Truth alluded to he is one of the best recruiters in the country. and a hell of a linebacker coach. I guess its a matter of first is he ready to be a DC? And would he leave his current job?


I'm quite pleased though that Shannon is even considering him. He is a guy I didn't even think would be a possibility.

Posted by: canefan3 | January 23, 2009 at 10:47 PM

Yup, Norton would be an excellent hire. Like I said before, I'll take any defensive coach from USC anyday of the week.

SuperCooper

Whats the latest super?

Posted by: ObviousCane | January 24, 2009 at 09:06 AM

According to my sources, Shalala is contemplating changing the name of the school to UW-University of Whipple, in honor of the Whipple man. Maybe Truth can confirm?

dj moonbat

The man wants to be a college HC. He's said as much in the past. Div I schools wouldn't hire him, so he went to the pros to build his resume.

Now, he sees an opportunity to showcase his skills with some of the nation's best skill players. Expect torrents of points.

SuperCooper

I have no idea, I'm just waiting like everyone else. Waiting for the world to change......

Alex D

Here’s my take on this potential hire. Any offensive coordinator that is WILLING and ABLE to utilize the Tight End and Fullback in Miami’s offensive arsenal has my complete vote of confidence.

Alex D

Yup, Norton would be an excellent hire. Like I said before, I'll take any defensive coach from USC anyday of the week.
Posted by: SuperCooper | January 24, 2009 at 09:06 AM

As strange as this sounds USC’s offensive and defensive philosophy is exactly what the U perfected to change the college football landscape. Was it not Pete Carroll and USC that was sending their assistants to Miami a few years back to learn and study or style and our philosophy? It’s time for the U to get back to Hurricane Football 101.

Gin & Tonic

Looks like Randy followed the same advice for hiring an OC as my uncle gave to me for dating when I was on high school.

When in doubt....whip it out!

Mr Troutman

Just bringing in experienced coaches will do me just fine. The past few years Shannon has given younger coaches chances but they just couldn't handle the JOB. We are now after veterans so things should look a little better. Young was a good hire but he just didn't have a good enough line to stop the run. The reason why he was torn was because he knew Miami was bringing in more Athletes and it was a matter of time when things were going to get brighter. This year once again will be very very interesting.....

bg1906

The latest Bryce Brown info...

Is Bryce Brown Still Committed to Miami?
1/22/2009
“YES", I’m still committed to Miami, said Brown. He’s probably had to say this hundreds of times in the past couple of weeks, but Brown stays consistent when asked this question. Back in February of 2008 Bryce and the UM staff communicated Browns plans before he committed. They understood that he would still take his five official visits and this was no surprise to anyone involved in this process. Miami does have the one thing that no one else has (older brother Arthur Brown Jr.). Brown said, “Its more like a family conversation when it comes to the Miami staff, I can tell that they want the best for me and they aren’t pressuring me to sign my national letter of intent on signing day. Miami supports the fact that I am taking my time and making an educated and informed decision.”

Bryce seems more concerned about who the Canes will hire as Offensive and Defensive Coordinator and just as importantly how will the offensive line 2009 class will turn out. “I’m really watching to see what schools lineman, Marcus Hall, Bobbie Massie, and Daniel Campbell will be attending on signing day. Some people say what type of impact I could have on where some other players will go, but I want them to know that they have an impact on my decision.” But still some ask is Bryce Brown still committed to Miami? The remains to be “YES” as of January 22, 2009.

CaneRock

Damn, so you mean to tell me that Bryce will be attending 3 different schools based on where Massie,Hall,and Campbell go... DAMN, then He really is good...

CanesgirlNC

I hope this pans out, he would be a great hire. Busy recruiting weekend as well

CaneRock

Wow, Ken Norton and Michael Barrow on the same defensive staff, man, it's gonna be hard keeping those guys off the field.

Mr Troutman

Getting that O and d line in tact is what will get Miami over the hump. 10 to 12 Scholarships should be used on the lineman. The other remaining should be on cornerbacks, Linebackers and athletes. This is turning out to be a Star studded team that will be the most underrated team in the ACC and perhaps the country.

Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer

Guys, Shannon is not hiring another experiment at a coordinator position. Plus, like Calvin said, I don't want any defense from the PAC-10, even USC's. There are too many talented, proven DCs at current colleges and even the NFL to let Norton cut his teeth with us.

I'll be totally amazed if Shannon even thinks about this, and disappointed for the first time in one of his decisions.

miamihurricane34

Hopefully that is Bryces backwards way of trying to tell those big OL men to come to Miami, he wants to play with them down here.

Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer

PB, very true. Whipple is definitely a man on the make. I give him three years tops, which is all we need.

I'd love to have Winston Moss but he's already DC for the Packers, recently promoted.

I see Tenuta or Nix or an NFL position coach long before Norton.

SuperCooper

USC had one of the best defenses the country has seen in a long time, and his track record with linebackers is amazing. Plus, he has been learning under Caroll for a while. Just saying....

Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer

BG, wtf is wrong with Bryce?? He's gone off the primadonna edge. Now he's worried about which OL will come instead of recruiting them to the U?? This is not the way to ingratiate yourself to your coaches and team and definitely not the fans.

shwarma

Monte just watched that video and it was awesome.

canechic

I am with you Super Ken Norton would be a huge hire. I love Michael Barrow but I think he needs just a few more years coaching but if he gets promoted, I am in his corner.

Go Canes!!! Randy proving his critics wrong!

Cat 5 Cane

DC

Knowing Randy's mentality as a LB, if he could, he would have nothing on his defensive team but Linebackers... Little one's, Medium size ones, Big one's and Bigger Ugly one's... nothing but LB's running around the field, looking to hit someone.

Sooo it doesn't surprise me that Ken Junior is on the radar. he fits the bill... A player in pro and college and has Coaching experience.

Personally I like more experience as a coach but what the hell.

hurriphin

hurri'....U.....

I miss anything??

shwarma

I think if a guy like Norton were hired, Randy would act as a hands on mentor and possibly even call the plays until he felt comfortable. Norton realizes he is behind a bit of eightball behind a young DC there, so his ego might be able to tkae this sort of arrangement. He could hypothetically be here for four years, move on and then Barrow could step in.

I still like Martinez for consideration because of his work with DBs and he wont need on the job training. I know he has his detractors on here but I think he is a great candidadte the only question is would he want to leave UGA for home (and I dont know if the stability issue can be played up because UGA is one bad year away from Richt being on the hot seat/out since UGA fans are sick of being always so close.)

shwarma

Nothing official Hurriphin. Unless we get an announcement today, (I don't know why wait till Monday like Rivals is predicting)I think today is just a quiet day and tomorrow news about how visits are going will start coming in.

On that note, does anyone have a final list of who came this weekend? I have seen varying reports.

canesteeler

WHIPAPPEAL baby

Canefantasy

I think that the Norton hire would be a big mistake. I would hire Barrow as the DC before Norton. I think that shannon should just take over until next season. As for whipple I have yet to see him come to Miami wearing a miami hat. Rob Chud will still be our guy. I have been saying it for months. This is gonna be like signing day with the hats and whipple will put on a Philly hat while Rob puts on the U hat. GO CANES!!!

Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer

Shwarma, Shannon's through with the training grounds hires. He gave two unproven guys a shot and they both failed. It's over. The U is now the place where you go when you're already at the top of your game and you want to take the next steps higher.

For Norton to prove something to me he needs to step out of Carroll's shadow and do something without 4 and 5 star recruits, like Tyrone Nix and Tenuta have done.

Canefantasy

Cav,
is 100% correct on this one. Norton hasnt done anything to prove he is a good DC. He is unproven and he has 5 star atheletes to play with all the time. We need another bill young out there that can take 3 and 2 star players and make them great. I think one more year with him would have been great, but lets turn over every rock and find the best guy available.

all_bout_dis_U

Anyone got any news on Greg Reid ??? Is he really coming to visit next weekend ???

DZ8

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/pgStory?contentId=9115158&MSNHPHMA#sport=COLLEGE%20FOOTBALL&photo=9104908

#10?


Chi pun

Dom Capers was just hired as D coordinator at Green Bay. They are switching to the 3-4 from the 4-3. Unless I missed something REAL recent.

DZ8

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/37807024.html

Don't know where Moss is headed or gone to. I know he was interviewing with the Raiders.

CaneRock

On a sad note, Kate Yow passed away, RIP Coach Yow, RIP.

DZ8

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/01/13/winston-moss-willing-to-work-for-al-davis-in-whatever-capacity/

Still no word on Moss. But I doubt he comes down to college when he'll have an opportunity in The League. IF he did go to a college you have to figure we would be at the head of the list.

Esteban

If I remember right Randy Shannon did pretty good his first year as a DC. Why? He learned from some of the best. Just happens that Norton played with and under some of those same guys. Then he went and coached under Carroll who was a big time DC in the NFL and who's defenses have chopped up teams in college since. Now is he the number 1 guy I'd want?No, but he's up there.

speedwrecks

MARK WHIPPLE OFFERED UM OC JOB, BUT MULLING OVER TO ANSWER "THIS WEEKEND" by NBC6.net.

(all_bout_dis_U, Greg Reid is not coming "Ha Ha, Naw Man" said the text message from Greg Reid @ Miami visit)

Whipple Reportedly Offered Offensive Coordinator Post
University Of Miami Has Not Confirmed Offer
UPDATED: 12:28 am EST January 24, 2009


MIAMI, Fl -- The University of Miami has reportedly offered its offensive coordinator position to NFL assistant Mark Whipple.

Whipple told NBC 6 by phone that his decision to accept the OC offer should come by the end of the weekend.

The University of Miami neither confirms nor denies that Whipple has been offered the job. The Hurricanes have been looking for an offensive coordinator since Patrick Nix got fired following the 2008 season.

Whipple is an offensive assistant for the Philadelphia Eagles and a former quarterback coach for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Before going to the NFL, Whipple served as head coach at the University of Massachusetts and New Haven.

In 1998, Whipple won a Division 1-AA National Championship at UMass and was also named the Division 1-AA National Coach of the Year. Whipple also won a Super Bowl with the Steelers in 2005 after helping in the development of quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.

Cane Since 1982

Man I got one hell of a Whipple hang over from last night.

But it aint nothing a few Whippits cant fix.

Canefantasy

I just whip that right up for you Canesince1982.

1caneinatl

why do i have that sinking feeling that whip is using is as leverage with his current employer the eagles? also-- what's cower doing?

Alex D

I have to disagree with those that would oppose the hiring of Ken Norton Jr. as the DC for the U if selected. I’ve seen his work out here in the PAC 10 and he is a tremendous coach. He brings lots of energy, fire and swagger to that SC defense. He is a fabulous recruiter and could help bring quality 5 star recruits from the Left Coast (ala DJ Williams). Plus he played under Jimmy Johnson at Dallas (who Shannon truly respects) and has a solid relationship with former Cowboy teammate Michael Irvin. That’s my take.

OCALACANE

...

dj moonbat

"He brings lots of energy, fire and swagger to that SC defense. He is a fabulous recruiter and could help bring quality 5 star recruits from the Left Coast (ala DJ Williams). Plus he played under Jimmy Johnson at Dallas (who Shannon truly respects) and has a solid relationship with former Cowboy teammate Michael Irvin. "

But can he CALL PLAYS? 'Cause that's what we really need from a DC.

MidWestCane

Yes!!!!

Finally, Confirmation.

IraqiCane

I would love Ken Norton Jr. on the staff, a young up and coming coach with BALL'S. HELLS YEAH.

GO CANES!!!

Canefantasy

Patrick Nix was young and energetic, but didnt know how to call a damn play in college. So would you hire patrick Nix agian?? I am not opposed to the hiring of Norton. I think that we can get someone better with more experience thats all.

1caneinatl

midwest cane,

this whipple thing is far from confirmed. all that we know is that he is mulling over the decision. i will remain nervous about all of this until we hear the word that he's on board.

Canefantasy

Whipple will turn us down and Rob Chud will come to the rescue wearing nothing but his Ken Dorsey signed underwear.

BIG DADDY CANE

Dj,

That means to be seen. Like someone said earlier we don't need another experiment.. we need results. Hiring and firing is getting old not just at the U but everywhere in college and the pros. We need STABLILITY HERE AT MIAMI as of late it just haven't been here. Fans now-a-days want to win right away no matter what it takes.Patience ,working hard and time seem to go on deaf ears.

IraqiCane

Patrick Nix was young and energetic, but didnt know how to call a damn play in college. So would you hire patrick Nix agian?? I am not opposed to the hiring of Norton. I think that we can get someone better with more experience thats all.
Posted by: Canefantasy | January 24, 2009 at 11:46 AM

Excellent point.

Canefantasy

Romeo Carnell will have trouble finding a job late in the game. I think we should at least make him an offer. He spends 3 years turning our team into allstars he can coach anywhere he wants in college. Just trying to live up to my name. CANEFANTASY!!

canechic

I am with you 1cane that does not sound to promising, thought things were tighter than that, hmmmm! Maybe canefantasy is right??

Alex D

Patrick Nix was young but he was not energetic, his play calling lacked both fire and creativity. Hey if this position is solely contingent on a person simply having experience then maybe K. Norton Jr. may not be the right guy for it. However, that still does not take away some of the many other positive attributes that he brings.

I mean know that this is a different analogy but Glenn Cook and Romeo Davis brought a whole lot of experience to our defense this year. However, I would take Sean Spence’s, energy, fire and swagger any day over those two experiences.

Canefantasy

Alex, I see what you are saying and I cant disagree with you about the players, but I can disagree with you about the coaching because Norton can be jumping up and down on the sidelines all he wants, but if he has no idea what to do then it doesnt matter. I like the player analogy but it is much differnt when it comes to coaching. It helps having a total package guy that has energy is young and can call the right defense. I just dont know if Norton can do the last one.

canefan3

If Whipple is actually hired why wait to announce it?

CaneRock

Canefantasy, Bill Young was "someone better with more experience", and GT still carved Miami up with damn near 500 yards rushing. "Better and more experience" couldn't stop Antone Smith from running up the gut for a TD. "Better and more experience" couldn't stop the QB from NC State. As far as I'm concerned, if Norton is available, I would love to see Him calling the defense next year, this guy has what you call a Championship Pedigree.

MidWestCane


DZ8,

I saw your post and I am just floored by "FOX SPORTS" reporting. Where do they get their findings from, how did they ascess that Miami is Ranked #10 and the Gators is #1 in recruiting?

HOW? IN THE NAME OF GOD, IS THE TURDS RANKED #1 IN RECRUITING BUT THE CANES IS #10?

Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer

Este, true about Shannon, and you could same similar things about Chud, but unless someone can tell me that Norton was dissecting defenses and prepping his teammates like Shannon was in his junior year, I'd say we just got lucky with Shannon because we ALL know Coker didn't have much more than a clue.

Plus, Shannon doesn't have the talent luxury that Coker did or the patience. With this group I'd want someone who's been there and done it well at least once.

Nix and Tenuta we know have done it. I'd rather have an NFL guy myself.

SuperCooper

Patrick Nix was young and energetic, but didnt know how to call a damn play in college. So would you hire patrick Nix agian?? I am not opposed to the hiring of Norton. I think that we can get someone better with more experience thats all.
Posted by: Canefantasy | January 24, 2009 at 11:46 AM

Please don't compare Nix to Ken Norton. That is an insult to Norton. Norton has learned under the best, he recruits like a mofo, and has played in the NFL. His linebackers are constantly the best in college year after year. Nix was horrible at GT, and was probably going to get fired before we hired him. Norton is nothing like Nix.

SuperCooper

Cav,
is 100% correct on this one. Norton hasnt done anything to prove he is a good DC. He is unproven and he has 5 star atheletes to play with all the time. We need another bill young out there that can take 3 and 2 star players and make them great. I think one more year with him would have been great, but lets turn over every rock and find the best guy available.

Posted by: Canefantasy | January 24, 2009 at 10:46 AM

Last time I checked, we are starting to recruit ballers on defense again too. We may not be USC in terms of talent yet, but we are getting there. He will have a ton of young players to work with.

dj moonbat

Are any recent Trojan LBs making noise in the NFL? I can't think of any.

CaneRock

Uhhhhh, I think all three of the USC LBs are going 1st round this year, LOUD enough for ya...

Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer

ut can he CALL PLAYS? 'Cause that's what we really need from a DC.

Posted by: dj moonbat | January 24, 2009 at 11:38 AM

>>>>

Exactly.

Alex, I'm sure he's a fine LB coach and he definitely played with Miami-like energy and swagger but that doesn't mean he can orchestrate a defense.

To me, it's a matter of cutting his teeth somewhere and proving himself.

Now maybe Shannon knows a lot we don't since Shannon coached him at Dallas before he left. But I simply don't see Shannon taking another chance on an inexperience coordinator. He did twice and got burnt. He's not a patient man and knows what comes with the territory at The U.

If he goes with someone young I'd expect Nix or an NFL position coach, with DC experience in college. Someone with something to prove.

If he goes experienced I'd expect someone like Tenuta or the UCLA guy, although it's hard to gauge his ability.

Nix, to me is the best young college guy. He's done it with little talent twice in the toughest conference, coaches with as much passion and energy as anyone, AND he was a great LB in college. But he has no NFL experience.

Whatever the case, there's too much available talent for Shannon to try to shoulder those duties himself.

SuperCooper

Who cares what they do in the NFL? They have produced in college, that is all I care about.

MidWestCane

"midwest cane,

this whipple thing is far from confirmed. all that we know is that he is mulling over the decision. i will remain nervous about all of this until we hear the word that he's on board.

Posted by: 1caneinatl | January 24, 2009 at 11:47 AM"


1caneinatl,

Thanks.

You know I saw the new blog article, and considered the consistancy of accurate news reporting by Truth, and then seeing canesports.com front page I figured that I more than likely Whipple is on the way.

But, like others who have been waiting, wanting, and yerning for this to be confirmed for days now, at this point, I guess, I, like them, is just - WHIPPED.

Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer

Whipple will turn us down and Rob Chud will come to the rescue wearing nothing but his Ken Dorsey signed underwear.

Posted by: Canefantasy | January 24, 2009 at 11:48 AM

>>>>

LMAO!!

Chinese Punisher aka Cavaleer

Alex, Spence is flat out better than Romeo and Cook in every respect. He could teach them more right now about LBing than they could teach him. To me there's no comparison.

Canefantasy

why doesnt Micheal Barrow get a shot at DC. He at least bleeds orange and green and is fairly young and energetic as well. I am not saying you are wrong about Norton. Neither you or me can say that he is going to be good or bad DC. I do not know and that is what is scaring me bc he has no track record besides being a LB coach. Maybe it is the amazing talent that USC is able to pick up and not the coaching. who the hell really knows. Do you want to take that big of a risk on someone that we are unsure about. Me personally the time and investment in Norton doesnt seem reasonable. If he was that good then he would be the USC DC. They just lost theirs to Washington. I have heard nothing about him taking over the responsibility.

SuperCooper

Hurtt is going to get the DC job before Barrow so I think that is a moot point. Barrow has far less expierence then Norton.

The Truth

He can't sign a contract until he's an employee of the U. This isn't a randy issue it's a university issue and they can be down right stupid about this. And sloooooooooooooooooow...

I'm sure this was something J was going to elaborate on.

In the meantime he's still technically on the market. I guess ;-)

Don't worry...

dlu

Will the U spend the bucks that it now costs for a top oc then turn around and do the same for a top experienced dc. NO. Means Shannon takes over or Norton comes for an opportunity. Eliminates Tenuta and others in that league. Just stating a probable, not a 100% fact. Shannon should take over and hire Norton as assistant dc to Randy.

CaneRock

Coop, Good point about Hurtt. And hypothetically speaking, if Hurtt were to get that promotion, it would be well deserved, that guy works his a$$ of recruiting and coaching wise.

The Truth

I love Calvin...I do

But because he says Barrow coached up cook to play like 1st rounder at times doesn't mean that actually happened.

Is that a knock on Barrow, hell no!

Is he ready to be a dcord, hell no! And HE knows it.

Norton is...

I'm out for the day guys...pray that the crabby bastards in human resources don't give Philly enough time to make whipple anothe offer he can't refuse! LOL

Alex D

Everyone on here has made some valuable points. One thing for sure that we can all agree upon is that this coaching carousel thing is starting to get rather old. We should be concentrating on finish strong in recruiting and spring practice coming up in late March.

BTW, do any of these players have any playbooks right now to look over or are they just simply focused on weight training and watching films?

timcanes

i wouldnt want hurtt to get the dc job because he is a diesel recruiter and apparently the o and d coordinators dont do much recruiting...

Canefantasy

why is Rocky Seto the new DC for USC. If Norton is so much better. They lost their DC to Washington and then promote rocky not Norton?? all I am saying is he doesnt have the experience at all. He isnt even getting promoted for the DC at the school he has been with for the last 5 years.

1caneinatl

truth said:

He can't sign a contract until he's an employee of the U. This isn't a randy issue it's a university issue and they can be down right stupid about this. And sloooooooooooooooooow...

"I'm sure this was something J was going to elaborate on.

In the meantime he's still technically on the market. I guess ;-)

Don't worry..."

truth has spoken and on the truth i will stand!!!

Canez1

I don't think we can afford a DC with no experience. RS needs to surround himself with stud coordinators to take some of the pressure off himself. He can't be worrying about the O and the D and HCing this team. Way too much for a young HC to deal with.

If the OC, whoever it is going to be, can run the O from top to bottom I think we will see RS take over the D himself.

Whipple can certainly run this O.....

GO CANEZ!!!!!

SuperCooper

Coop, Good point about Hurtt. And hypothetically speaking, if Hurtt were to get that promotion, it would be well deserved, that guy works his a$$ of recruiting and coaching wise.

Posted by: CaneRock | January 24, 2009 at 12:46 PM

I can see Hurtt getting the job in a couple of years. Like you said, he is probably one of the hardest working coaches on this staff with recruiting and his D-Line has played a lot better the last couple of seasons. Plus he is a Randy guy from the beggining.

DZ8

What playbooks?

We have no O or D coordinator. They should just be lifting, running, watching film, etc...

Plenty of time Legion. Let's do this one right.


MidWest
I understand USC and Notre Dame, but floriduh? Most schools are regional recruiting powers, Notre Dame and USC being the exceptions, in that order. IMO

SuperCooper

Per the USC board:

"It seems most like him a lot but kind of question his x's and o's. Seems to be a great recruiter, a firey motivator and a good teacher (as well as a good guy). PC tends to get most of the credit for the defensive scheming."

"Ken Norton is a fantastic person, coach and mentor. I think Pete Carroll would fight hard to keep Norton on his staff. The only knock on Norton as a DC for a program like Miami is experience."

"Ken Norton Jr. is not only a fierce competitor, and he has a knack for instilling that in his players, but he has become fiercly LOYAL to Coach Pete Carroll in the process of his coaching development. My guess is that CKN will patientlyy await his opportunity to become the DC at USC, and then hang for some time before even considering moving on. A completely different scenario is that CKN is entirely content being a Position Coach teaching what he knows best, and may have little interest in escalating his career into a DC or HC position."

I'll take him.

MidWestCane

"MidWest
I understand USC and Notre Dame, but floriduh? Most schools are regional recruiting powers, Notre Dame and USC being the exceptions, in that order. IMO

Posted by: DZ8 | January 24, 2009 at 12:59 PM"

DZ8,

Over how many years are they basing their Rankings on? Is it an all time Ranking, is it a Decade Ranking, or is it a yearly Ranking?

It could just be FoxSports biased reporting, you know they are related to FoxNoise (FoxNews).

Alex D

Midwest, the playbook thing was a joke. I was trying to make a point, we are nearly 2 months away from spring practice with several recruits already enrolled in school and basically have nothing to hand them (as playbooks) to learn at this time.

MidWestCane

"I'll take him.

Posted by: SuperCooper | January 24, 2009 at 01:08 PM"

Coop,

And if Ken Norton Jr. came to Miami, then that would say that he is not necsessarily THAT kind of coach that is - "entirely content being a Position Coach teaching what he knows best, and may have little interest in escalating his career into a DC or HC position." Now, would it?

Mr Troutman

Midwest,

Speaking of Foxnews...they are CNN wannabees. They will never be as BIG,HUGE. ENORMOUS OR WHATEVER U CALL BIG TIME as CNN. They are the most right wing network in the world. Once the republicans go down so will Fox. As of now they are starting to be a network of complainers..AND WHINNERS

Six

If you're bored, go back and look at the past 5 years of the NFL Draft at the LB's taken ... outside of maybe 3 at the most, each year, the rest basically don't even see the field - either put on the practice squad or just primarily special teams.

Don't believe me? Go to NFL Draft History, select Linebackers, and you'll see the years and what round. You'll also see a bunch of players you've never seen or heard from on that list each year that were drafted on an NFL"U" team - maybe a maximum of 3 a year that are actually playing.

The most recent LB that USC has that is a pretty damn good player is Lofa Tatupu - taken in the 2nd Round by the Seahawks in 2005.

I don't buy into the fire/energy/hype that a coach supposedly brings ... can he X and O and field results, while bringing that fire/energy/hype? I personally like Tyrone Nix - the guy has done pretty well in the SEC at Ole Miss ... OLE MISS ... which outside of the years that Eli Manning was there, how much noise did they really make in that conference?

Would Nix want to make a lateral move and live down in Miami? I doubt it, like Truth and others I know that have lived down there have said ... it's not exactly for everyone.

Boss Man Shannon knows these next two hires are going to make or break him, esp. with this unrealistic expectation instant pudding result fanbase ... so if he thinks Norton is right for the job, I'm sure it's because he's done some major thinking/consulting with the wise ones (Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcells) - and he'll try and pull the trigger. Do you think though that Norton himself would want to come down to Gables, instead of staying out with the University of Spoiled Children? Maybe, if it was a higher position. I dunno.

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