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October 27, 2009

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Texascane

The defense gave up 26 and scored seven of their own. That's 19 points net.

Special Teams were -7 net.

The offense scored 30 and gave up 7. That's 23 net.

The team lost by 3. Who lost the game?

DZ8

Posted by: canesteeler | October 28, 2009 at 01:00 PM

more concern with our defense than our offense. You score 37 points and lose means your defense is shat.

canesteeler deserves credit for that one macjones

macjones de Albuquerque

Some gems of knowledge from CBSSportsline college football pundit Dennis Dodd.

He says it's HIGHLY POSSIBLE that Miami can get a B.C.S. bowl bid, IF they win out!

He made mentioned of the fact, that Miami and the A.C.C. championship winner would make the first time in A.C.C. history, that the conference had 2 B.C.S. bowl teams.

Dodd also said it's HIGHLY POSSIBLE that Wake Forest Senior QB Skinner could CARVE up Miami's secondary, IF the Cane's D-line doesn't get any FREAKIN' pressure on the Life of Riley.

Nonetheless, he likes Miami in this A.C.C. showdown. However, he picked the Canes against Clemson. Go figures.

DZ8

The defense gave up 26 and scored seven of their own. That's 19 points net.

Special Teams were -7 net.

The offense scored 30 and gave up 7. That's 23 net.

The team lost by 3. Who lost the game?

Posted by: Texascane | October 28, 2009 at 01:50 PM

In my fantasy football world the defense and special teams are connected, so I blame the defense. j/k, It was a team loss. Coaches and players. Plenty of room for improvement from everyone.

macjones de Albuquerque

The defense gave up 26 and scored seven of their own. That's 19 points net.

Special Teams were -7 net.

The offense scored 30 and gave up 7. That's 23 net.

The team lost by 3. Who lost the game?

Posted by: Texascane | October 28, 2009 at 01:50 PM

This is a FREAKIN' moot point of the Hurricane sort, because it was an absolut TEAM SHANNON lost. Capice!

Texascane

Then don't say that "you score 37 and lose , you're defense is shat".

The defense gave up 26. And scored 7.

ST's are there for field position purposes...not to give up points.

The offense certainly is not supposed to score points for the other team.

You can only hold the defense accountable for what they can control...19 points net.

If ST's don't give up a score and the pick 6 doesn't occur, we win 30-26.

All you ask of the offense and ST's is that if you can't score, just don't give up points.

DZ8

Why U always yellin macjones?

Can't we discuss? lol

Texascane

Pardon me, we win 34-20, in regulation.

DZ8

I think we should think about moving Orlando to defense. Anyone see that tackle on the pick 6...I got a kick out of that.

Now we know why Jacory and AJ weren't all "man on fire" to make the tackle. Too much collateral damage possible when BIG O Franklin is coming with a head of steam.

DZ8

Free Damien Berry! (this coming from a two time JJ as LOF nominee)

Six

Just don't let Big Orlando play LTackle anymore

Keep him inside as a guard and watch him smother people like Larry Allen used to do with the Cowboys

And no, I am not comparing Big Orlando to Larry Allen skill wise ... just comparing size and engulf your opponent wise

DZ8

Agreed on Franklinstein. If he could play tackle he would've been there by now (Pipho?).

SOUP

Just don't let Big Orlando play LTackle anymore.

Keep him inside as a guard and watch him smother people like Larry Allen used to do with the Cowboys

Posted by: Six | October 28, 2009 at 02:18 PM

Preach on brother! That man is a whif-O-matic on the outside. He ain't got the feet or balance for it. If every fan I know sees it why can't the coaches?

Daytoncane

it wasn't just one unit that lost this game, it was EVERY unit.

the offense lost the game because the QB threw three picks, one which resulted in a score for Clemson. we also had a fumble by Collier deep in our own territory that gave them easy points. it's amazing to think we still had this game in check despite 4 turnovers.

the defense lost the game because they had too many blown assignments. we completely shut down the run, but we were horrible against the pass in the second half. you give a team like Clemson big plays you should lose every single time. that big, slow, white tight end for Clemson was open almost every play.

special teams hasn't been very special for many years. this unit probably had the least fault out of the three. they did give up a return, but for most of the game they did a nice job. and Bosher was his usual solid self.

if you think that return TD by Spiller lost the game than consider this: last year when Clemson played Alabama, Spiller returned a kickoff 96 yards for a score. Bama went on to win that game 34-10. big difference huh?

Esteban

Franklin has been the last OL player on that side a number of times this season though. They have been moving Fox to the right side to line up next to Pipho all year. Just didn't have as much quick passes with him there this week it seems. Might also be that they ran play action usually when they were in that formation. I don't know for sure though.

SOUP

"It wasn't just one unit that lost this game, it was EVERY unit."

It sure wasn't the fans at the tailgate parties! We did OUR job.

Trust me on this one...

86Cane

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CaniaK aka True Canes

Free Berry, Free Berry.

CGNC

The team better not come out flat and unemotional at the Wake game - I will be there and coaches, players, offense, defense, special teams blah blah blah do they EVER think about how this affects MY life???? LOL!!!!!

CGNC

Soup I liked the soupcan avatar - very clevah

SOUP

do they EVER think about how this affects MY life????

Posted by: CGNC | October 28, 2009 at 03:57 PM

LMAO! U and ME both...

SOUP

Soup I liked the soupcan avatar - very clevah

Posted by: CGNC | October 28, 2009 at 03:57 PM

Why thank U!

Sebastian

I had to pick up a case of these to add to my Canes room

http://ww1.prweb.com/prfiles/2009/10/20/2248914/MIAMIHURRICANESCB2009edit.jpg

canesteeler

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canesteeler

The defense failed to stopped Clemson from scoring the tying field goal and the winning TD in overtime. The defense is not good and the results state that!

mr troutman

do they EVER think about how this affects MY life????

Posted by: CGNC | October 28, 2009 at 03:57 PM

LMAO! U and ME both...

Posted by: SOUP | October 28, 2009 at 04:21 PM


YEAH YOU AND THE NATION OF CANES WERE DEPRESSED ALL DAY SATURDAY..SPORTSCENTER WAS NOT FUN TO WATCH BETTER YET I HAD TO TUNE IT OUT THAT NIGHT....WHEN WE LOOSE IT IS LIKE A WAKE AND A TEA PARTY RALLY AROUND HERE ...VERY SAD AND ANGRY CANES CALLING FOR HEADS. LOL

mi@mic@ne

Heres the truth we are a lot better than that loss... cause we kick their butts but let them out of the dog house on third downs. We beat the crap out of them and give these young fresh and sophs one more yr of strength training and they are going to back down on us. Our o played to win and we matched their scoring with taking them to the last stand... our o actually put us in the position to win the game but we let them out of the dog house once more on a third and 10 or 15. That is because we are young... period! We are a couple of touches better than them and if we would have had all our horses it would have been another GT. Cause we kick GTs butts into the ground and GT out lasted Clemson... its logical to see that we were not at full strength since we saw that second game as a team that could play like the old Canes!!
Now we are playing a team that is no where near Clemson. If we come out and smack them in the mouth early ... i am looking for JH to have one of those record breaking days... its time to play like we are capable!!

USAFCane

this Whipple Shannon thing. Doesn't it happen all the time? Is it not getting blown out of proportion?. I predict a much more harmonious and positive board after a win on Saturday.

solarcane

an upper right that got lost in the shuffle

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj201/solarcane/oktoberfest.jpg

peace

SOUP

Solar...the bad news with the avatars is that the TOP RIGHT is connected to my 86Cane blog name. No more fun unless I want it ot be my avatar.

dlu

Will the Canes win out? I sure hope so. Do I think that the Canes will win out? I think its 50-50 chance. Mid season evaluation puts it at a 50-50 chance with the remaining schedule. At NC or at S. Fla one of those could get away.

Must add the Canes could have been a one loss team this yr in retrospect quite easily. Whipple did his job. But the defense did not and I put that all on the coaches not the players. A top professional on the defensive side as DC could have been just enough for a one loss season. No team the Canes lost to va tech or clemson were unbeatable by any means. So all the nonsense about the Canes could not , should not, were not ready is just that nonsense, it was all on the defensive coaching to keep those games in check.

canesteeler

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solarcane

soup yea i saw that, too bad.

we will get around it somehow, someway.

peace

canesteeler

I was on a cruise ship in the Bahamas when I checked the score on my cell phone and found out we had lost to Clemson. I was in a shitty mood the rest of the cruise. My girlfriend said I would be unbearable if my Steelers had lost. Yea, I admit, I am a 47 year old man hooked like an addict on crack to our CANES!

solarcane

we end up 9-3 0r 10-2 win a bowl,
with Jacory being a Junior and Heisman candidate we should start the season in the top 5.
that was the long term plan, a shot at a NC by Randys 5th year.

The other plan was Marve and Nix winning the ACC the first year and us winning the NC the next year.

Seems almost everyone realizes now how near impossible going undefeated, or 11-1 the third year really was.

The only thing that can stop us next year is if the players are too old

im jus sayin

peace

SOUP

Yea, I admit, I am a 47 year old man hooked like an addict on crack to our CANES!

Posted by: canesteeler | October 28, 2009 at 05:27 PM

Hi, I'm 86Cane, and I'm an addict too.

Calvin

dlu, if we had a defensive coordinator on par with whipple as oc, we might be undefeated, or at least we would have been in a better position to win that v-tech game.

Here's where shannon is learning or needs to, if you know pat hill being out has hurt us a whole lot more, than why are trying to ram the ball up in their 3 times against a very good front 7. I keep reading shannon talking about that's how we ended a few games this year and that's not all the way accurate, on the key third downs against oklahoma a few times we stayed aggressive because we had to being up only by 1, the coaching staff didn't let the team down than.

Against ucf, we were up by 20 points so it didn't make a difference if we ran the ball alot of times and didn't get the 1st down, but when you're only up by three points against an offense that was moving the ball up and down the field all day against the defense, you stay aggressive on third down and get the damyum third down. We could habve lined up in that same formation where we faked the toss sweep, or this time actually do the toss and have coop throw to someone for 3 yards, hell, we get conservative, we lost.

If the game was sloppy all game long than why take a chance that the defense is going ot hold it down.

THe tight-ends were open all day simply because we all know shaprton and c-mac have never been good in pass coverage, look no further than the play where sharpton lit that tight-end up, watch c-mac on that play.

fran

Soup & Solar
Any word on Ocalacane we miss him & hope everything is ok with him and the Mrs.

DallasTX Cane

Posted by: solarcane | October 28, 2009 at 05:33 PM

Don't forget the rain, the cold, the referees, thin air, the BCS computers, the human polls, the ignorant hillbillys, the racist rednecks, the cleats...

dlu

Calvin agree, here is something that should be done. Shannon goes to Whipple and says, score as many pts. as you can, take no prisoners and do not get conservative, and do all that your way.

Shannon then says on defensive I am going to go b*lls out , throw everything at qtbacks on 3rd and long and keep doing dif. things to rattle the qtback.

None of that is going to happen but I can dream.

pb(CSROH10)

Seems almost everyone realizes now how near impossible going undefeated, or 11-1 the third year really was.

The only thing that can stop us next year is if the players are too old

im jus sayin

peace

Posted by: solarcane | October 28, 2009 at 05:33 PM


Solar I have to disagree with you here. The talent here at one point this season was as good as any team out there.

And even with sloppy play and a brutal injury run we should still be 6-1 with all the games remaining being very winnable. I dont think anyone was out of line thinking 11-1 for this team.

What I don't like is when it doesn't happen those expectations cloud people's thinking about the realities we are facing on this team as far as depth and injuries.

It was possible, but it didn't happen. Nothing wrong with being ok with both at this point.

Daytoncane

Terrence Cody looked just like the koolaid man as he was running down the field after that blocked kick against Tennessee.

OOO YEEEEEAAAAAAAA!!!

solarcane

fran I haven't heard a word,

ocalacane, loco,mattinny,monte all good guys that don't seem to be around.

peace

fran

Ocala posted a note about a problem that would keep him from canespace I thought You or 86 might be in contact with him. Hope I am not prying
Fran

solarcane

pb,
i know what you are sayin.
yes it was very possible, and 5-2 has me happy.
At the same time the wearing down, the lost opportunities,the surprise trap game are all things I expected. and thought 9-3 would be a good improvement.

spence not playing better, arthur not doing anything,jacory throwing a pick every 18 passes are all things I didn't see coming.

We could win out or we could beat ourselves against UNC or USF.

peace

Six

Cody's brother from another mother

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_SU8w_1Tnu_A/SUbTun7V_zI/AAAAAAAABAk/Vr8WjVmfwjs/s400/kool%2520aid.jpg

mi@mic@ne

Theres not a lot of cane fans that are going to be satisfied with an 11 and 1 record cause we have been used to NCs or playing for NCs if not every yr.. every other yr. So if you ask me... everyone is saying here that we are more physical than the down yrs... but the decisions on the d on the field are not good...and it is why we lost last game. Thats got to change. We cant lose games we are suppose to win...we are not there yet.
I really do not think we lost the last game cause we had a lot of d line hurt. But its because we were not aggressive enough in changing up on third downs... we had them were we wanted them.. then they get the 7 or 10 yrs for the first down. If you have someone back where you want them then you can blitz if you are getting the same problems of not being able to stop them on third down. That stupid te down the middle drum beat.... thats the obnoxious feeling i have.

dlu

Canes lost to va. tech and clemson both multiple loss teams, those were both potentially winnable with the right defensive game plans. Lovett himself said basicly , I screwed up at va. tech. Nice , respect taking the blame, but still I would prefer a great DC that does not have to say , I screwed up.

solarcane

dtx LOL!

No team in history has ever played under the burden we face every time we step on the field.

The complete unified conspiracy between God and the BCS to keep us from winning a National Championship is as plain as day to people on here.

peace

dlu

Va tech is not that good if you defend their strengths and go after their weaknesses. Neb had them totally beat, on the road until they lost in last seconds on a fluke play. that would have make va. tech a 3 loss team. They are not bad by any means, just saying, right game plan, they can be had.

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