Shot Through The Heart And You're To Blame

U give love a bad name.

Miami's stunning, saddening loss to Clemson on Saturday at The Shark broke the hearts of Hurricane fans everywhere.  For those who made the trek from near and far to show their love for the team wearing orange and green, all they could do when the game was finally over was to file out of Landshark Stadium in shock (and some even in tears) after the overtime loss to the Tigers.

There is no need to rehash the sordid details of the game other than to say the Canes lost to another ACC opponent and most likely any chance for an ACC title in 2009.  Once again, when given an opportunity to take control of their own fate in the conference, Miami spit the bit and came up lame down the stretch in another important game at home.

Canespacers showed up in force to support the Hurricanes and each had their own view about the difficult loss.  Coaches, players, personnel decisions, play calling, penalties, turnovers and special team breakdowns all were pointed out as possible culprits for the loss.  But in the end all that mattered was that the team with the tiger paw on their helmet scored more than the team with the U.

Now Hurricane fans will need to find a way to keep faith, hope and love alive through the rest of the 2009 season.  All is not lost if the Canes can to regroup, refocus and regenerate the magic that led to huge wins over FSU, Georgia Tech and Oklahoma.  There is enough talent and almost enough depth to still finish 10-2 and make this season a major stepping stone towards a real run at the ACC title and more in 2010.

Frustration with inconsistent play is acceptable.  Disappointment with another ACC loss is certainly likely.  But be strong CaneNation, this too shall pass and right now is when your team needs U the most.

Comments

[miamimike01]

First,

I REALLY enjoyed the tailgate and everyone I met. Angry, canechic, JSQ, 86, moneycane (and wife), are ALL VERY COOL FOLKS. Can't wait to hang again. I really enjoyed it.

I think Angry, money, canechic, and JSQ made most of my points for me. I was going to post the same thoughts, but I'll spare The Legion of repeating them.

Most of the posts I read, I agreed with. I really like the fact that most of U guys and gals see the silver lining here. I'll explain in a few minutes...

[CaneRock]

What's up with Davon Johnson and Kendall Thompkins, especially Thompkins, I heard nothing but positive things about Him during the Spring. And I thought that Johnson did some good things when the ball came His way.

[dlu]

My opinion maybe nonsense, could be, it was not an opinion that I can to easily or quickly took a few years and a lot of frustration. I would love for the U to change defensive approach and quite making bad qtbacks look like heisman cand.'s

[solarcane]

National Ranking through the Clemson game
120 teams

rushing offense 74
passing offense 29
total offense 50
scoring offense 33 ( 30.14 per game )

total defense 35
rush defense 48
pass defense 32
score defense 59 ( yield 23.57 per game )

peace

[miamimike01]

RandyCane here, (solar),

I guess the positives of beating Georgia Tech the way we did and the way we stopped their offense isn't good enough for the here and now? Beating OU, even without Bradford not good enough?

war

[86Cane]

JSQ...I had writers block at first but then the article kinda wrote itself. Of course I had to do a few edits and corrections but it all worked out in the end.

GO CANES, BEAT WAKE!

[Daytoncane]

oh geez where to start,

i think we just start banning people that come on here after every loss and talk trash. that's all they do and it's really not worth it to let them post here. go somewhere else with that.

Jacory has started to look more average lately, but that kid is still going to be special. you can tell that by him throwing a touchdown right after a pick six.

and im starting to wonder why Whipple couldn't get that HC or OC job in the NFL. it could actually be because he wanted to come back to college. or it could be because he is a hothead that head coaches don't want to deal with. if he were to mouth off to Andy Reid or Bill Cowher like that, i wonder what would happen to him?

Lovett has to do something with this defense. i understand that injuries are piling up, but we have to find a pass rush. that Clemson QB had all day to throw and he picked us apart in the second half. and the coverage teams are not helping us out either. Pannunzio's unit better finish out the year on a good note or he might be gone.

honestly im not too mad at the loss considering this one of the teams i thought we would lose to when i saw the schedule. i had us losing 3 games - Va Tech, Clemson, and USF. i still think we'll drop another one though.

we are ok. with or without Shannon this core group is going to be scary good very soon.

[86Cane]

I promised 86cane I would post for the first time instead of just reading!!! Enjoyed meeting everybody at the Hampton. It was great going to a game just wished for a better outcome. GO CANES!!

Posted by: SWAGGIRL | October 25, 2009 at 08:19 PM

LISA! What's up SwagGirl!!!

Post here, post often...

[solarcane]

randy we are getting better

we played great aginst GT they are 11th in the nation, thats outside the top 10.

OU was over rated when we played them.
We became over rated when we beat them.

where was your comment on how good enough we handled VT and unranked Clemson at home?

I'm satisfied with how we are doing I said 9-3 before any game was played and we could go 10-2 which would be one game better than I thought we should be.

peace

[dlu]

Every Canes fan wants Shannon or whoever is coach to be the greatest coach ever to get it done.

Just like every sane person wants every president to be great. Just makes sense.

But again if you have any common sense , you look at the games and decisions and see what is happening and right now there is a big question as to whether Shannon is head coaching material. Shannon is a Cane always will be so he is good there. But all Cane bias aside has Shannon shown that he can be the guy to coach the U to greatness yr. in yr. out, I do not think so. Hope he does but I have lost faith in Shannon as a head coach, just me. Really hope that I am wrong. that is true not just words, hope that I am wrong.

[solarcane]

"I had writers block at first but then the article kinda wrote itself."

I find that hard to believe, you being the

RAYCOM.Sports Blogger of The Month For September...
which you have reminded me about daily 25 days into October.

peace

[86Cane]

RAYCOM.Sports Blogger of The Month For September...which you have reminded me about daily 25 days into October.

Posted by: solarcane | October 25, 2009 at 09:04 PM

Listen Pancho...Until they name a new one at the END of October I'm riding this thing until it dies.

[solarcane]

One thing everyone should realize on Canespace is when someone makes a critical remark about Randy Shannon or the Miami Hurricanes,
it isn't a personal attack on The Randy or you. It is merely someone's opinion on something they observed.

I think the world of mm01 and Randycane on here, good guys and true cane fans, we just see things different sometimes
peace

[miamimike01]

dlu,

I'm not in love with the defensive playcalling last night, either.

But, we have as fans, have to keep in mind, that this is still a young team. 53 of 85 players are FR. and SO's. Depth is still an issue, and RS said as much leading into this season.

He also stated, that the numbers won't be right until the beginning of next season, RS's THIRD full recruiting class.

I think the media did an excellent job of raising the expectations after going 3-1, and we ALL drank that Kool-Aid.

The U is back.

No, not all the way, b/c the quality depth STILL isn't there at key positions. But the U is definitely on the right track under RS.

[solarcane]

Posted by: 86Cane | October 25, 2009 at 09:06 PM

I don't doubt it for a minute!

peace

[KillerBeez41]

I see a lot of posters saying that Lovett should do this and do that and thats the easy thing. If you've coached anything at any level you know how difficult it is to get exactly what you want out of your team, especially if its your first year. Its a process and with this being his first year at UM, of course theirs going to be some growing pains. I think they've got some kinks to work on and one of them is getting the Dline to convert from their reads and disengaging to a pass rush. They do a decent job on maintaining gaps and offensive lineman, but its the disengagement part that the Dline is struggling with to create a pressure. But all this is assumption b/c I dont know what their philosophy is on defense, just taking a guess. They'll get it figured out and if not its on to the next man. Big game again next week esp. with it being and ACC game as well as an away game. Those Decons may not be as talented as Clemson, but best believe we're going to get their best shot. Canes better come out pissed out and ready to make someone pay for the BS that happened on Sat. Like Irvin said, "FOCUS AND YOU GET DONE!!!!" Give 'em hell next week Canes.

[Sean Spence is a Beast!!!]

bad weekend for both our miami football teams! hopefully they pick up their game next week! beat Wake! beat the Jets!

[VA Cane]

Having played and coached this great game for a long time, i find rarely, if ever 1 play or aspect of a game dooms a team. However, when you get a toxic mixture of negative occurences, look out. Foolish penalties, kicking to Spiller, poor clock management, bad qb decisions, some questionable conservative play calling, pick six, thin OL and DL, not making adjustments and on and on...all these things added up to a razor thin loss. I hate losing, so do you guys.I think to try and decide ownership of blame is futile. Things go bad on a given day, and OUR TEAM loses. Heck, we love these boys when we win; I find it appalling to abandon them when we lose. When we celebrated the vaunted 5 NCs...er 6!!...we loved them, so when they lose, we beat them down, critique them into oblivion, and take to personal rancor and insults? It is not right. Some people who posted here about this game have a right to their opinion, but to insult and bring race into a game played by some pretty good kids we call OUR TEAM is wrong. I invite anybody who is not happy with the boys to pull for UF, Bama, TX, USC...they have good teams...or stay close to home and pull for the other FL teams...they are there and need fans. This game I played, coach and love is simple in one aspect...block and tackle...but hard in many other ways. It takes all the coaches, players, trainers, students and fans to win...and if we lose, do we abandon each other? The TRUE CANES in here will not...we can point out mistakes, and be bummed out...but we do not give up, or quit, or abandon our boys...win or lose...right 86? Time to get ready for WF!!

[mi@mic@ne]

I kind of agree with Jimmy Js philosophy... what do you do when the situation is really harry and you need some yards... you think of the guy who is the most talented to get the job done... not how you have practiced run blocking for three weeks and you are confident that it will work. In my opinion that is JH. who throws the pick 6 then comes rite back and tosses a 60 yrd perfect pass to our receiver who had the 6 yrd separation. Its the best player..just like Emmit or like they went to Spiller in that long run on the last drive.

[solarcane]

Jacory is still #10 in the nation in passing efficiency which is pretty remarkable for a sophomore with a new OC.

If Jacory can squeeze out one more int he will be tied for most interceptions in the nation too.

peace

[miamimike01]

solar,

the point is...

... GOOD THINGS are happening. Last year, UM drops this game, gets blown out. This year, UM plays a mistake filled game, in ALL three facets of the game, and still should have won.

It took Parker's career game, Spiller's career game, a below average effort by UM as a whole, to get us to OVERTIME.

THAT'S PROGRESS. Anyway U shake it. And only two true classes put together by RS.

Silver lining.

[mi@mic@ne]

Yes but most all of his interceptions have been like punts. Look JH is making it look so easy.. i mean ... he has really smooth mechanics...that it may be that some people dont appreciate just how accurate this guy is. He takes chances. But i do not believe that there is another guy in college football who could perform with the kind of o line we have and get the ball off with that kind of accuracy. Some of his throws look NFLish.

[404Canes404]

I'm goIng to Halloween party at work Tuesday... Planning to dress as a Gator Fan (should make myself and Bulldog coworkers feel better)... I'll wear Jorts, Gator tshirt with arms ripped off, a mullet wig, and I'll be drinking a Natural Light 16oz can.... Anyone else have any suggestions, I'm sure I'm missing something?

[moneycane]

Man that loss yesterday HURT bigtime. I hope the team can move forward and come out againt Wake and play hard. And once again I gotta call out the "passionate" Miami fans. What I saw from them yesterday hurt my heart. It was the fourth quarter with the game still in question and the people in my section were acting like they were watching an opera. No emotion or cheering at all. Outside of the result of the game, the overall experience of the weekend was great. I think it's a wonderful thing that 86 is doing with the space and bringing people from different walks together.

[pb(CSROH10)]

Did I mention JSQ has gorgeous blue eyes?

[solarcane]

mm01,
I just said we are gettng better,
I'm on the 4 year plan with Randy remember?

Because I can see it's gonna take a realistic four years to become what a lot of folks think is happening now*
that doesn't make me any less excited than the people that think we are going to go 12-0 the last three years.

The one fact that is lost on sooo many Canes fans is other teams are getting better right along with us.

*plugging in any guy off the bench and not losing a step at any position.

peace

[moneycane]

404 make sure you include the Meth face potmarks and missing tefes. U can also throw in the BA barb wire arm tat for good measure

[Hurriphin]

Why the HELL were the Dolphins not in the gun, and running PLAY-ACTION, quick outs, and running plays, down 2 scores, with less than a min. to go?

TELL ME, NOW!!!

[miamimike01]

Uribe kicked deep after being instructed to squib it...

... hmmm. Explains the kick return. Coverage team ran Squib coverage, expecting the returner to be in the middle of the field. That's why Spiller was able to break it out to the outside. Also explains why Bosher kicked-off in the seconf half.

[mi@mic@ne]

yes but we should have blitzed more last nite and we should have kept a better eye on Spiller. And we cant kick off with any hang time or distance so its foolish to kick the ball directly to Spiller. If we would have done simple things we would have won by a couple of touches. All around it was obvious that we had more talent.

[86Cane]

Outside of the result of the game, the overall experience of the weekend was great. I think it's a wonderful thing that 86 is doing with the space and bringing people from different walks together.

Posted by: moneycane | October 25, 2009 at 09:38 PM

Money...First U were BONUS $$$, then U were SPENT $$$.

But U are still big MONEY, and SPOILED!

[86Cane]

Did I mention JSQ has gorgeous blue eyes?

Posted by: pb(CSROH10) | October 25, 2009 at 09:38 PM

Only SEVEN times so far...

[solarcane]

404
nothing sets off the Gator theme better than an I love Tebow tat on the bicep

peace

[mi@mic@ne]

Lets plug Canespace for their choice of women as well... great pictures...

[Canez1]

404 you need to knock most of your toofs out and you should be all set.

GO CANEZ!!!!!

[404Canes404]

404 make sure you include the Meth face potmarks and missing tefes. U can also throw in the BA barb wire arm tat for good measure

Posted by: moneycane | October 25, 2009 at 09:41 PM

thanks $, needed that laugh!

[moneycane]

Money...First U were BONUS $$$, then U were SPENT $$$.

But U are still big MONEY, and SPOILED!

Posted by: 86Cane | October 25, 2009 at 09:43 PM

86 I'll work my way back into the bonus

[miamimike01]

solar,

we just had a miscommunication. No hard feelings, brother.

I think the world of U, too. I appreciate the compliment.

Glass is half full or half empty?

I can see both perspectives, but if you know the game, U have to see it as half full at UM. (considering the circumstances)

WAY too many positives. They far outweigh the negatives, at this point.

Hey money, glad to see U made it back to Trailerhassee ok. LOL!

[Hurriphin]

I think it's a wonderful thing that 86 is doing with the space and bringing people from different walks together.

Posted by: moneycane | October 25, 2009 at 09:38 PM

That part was DUMB true money.

Before Canespace, I seriously thought that internet chatting was for weirdos, rapists, and pedophiles. I've now learned to trust technology, as well as the words of complete strangers. 86 is that dude.

[DrewZ2]

After every loss its always off with shannon's head wtf is this?

We have made progress in every year under shannon correct?

Anyone who thinks depth is not a problem - it is

We didnt deserve to win that game with all those penalties, turnovers, missed tackles/ blown coverages

Whipple should get ZERO blame.. we put up what 36 points?

Now if you can't see progress or still hate Shannon read this: In year one with those types of players, after Jacory's pick 6 we def would have packed our bags and said game over we give.. but no these kids fought and brought the game to overtime - so the kids he has brought in all have "THE ATTITUDE" - now depth is killing us at LB and DL so notice all the recruits at those positions that Randy is bringing in- - give the man 6 years and we will be right back in the glory days where we can RELOAD year in and year out

Hey year 3 and Randy already had us flirting with a possible NC and 2 years in a row hunting for the ACCCG so how hungry do u think that makes these kids?

THE BEST IS STILL COMING

[Canez1]

I'm with dlu here about RS D.

It has been the same thing for many years now.

BASIC!!!

Especially when you have such a beat up DL. You have to get pressure on the Qb in other ways anyway you can.

There was absolutely no deep threat outside of Spiller.

I believe when Spence was out injured that F'd things up a bit but you have to adjust.

It is what it is I guess but still bothers me to see absolutely no passrush at times and see our DB's out on an island for way too long trying to cover guys.

Make no doubt about it. This D is RS's. Lovett is a technique teacher and that is it.

GO CANEZ!!!!!

[86Cane]

Money...U and your lovely wife are ALWAYS a bonus to me. U are good peeps and FUN to hang with.

BTW...U got any left over ribs??? LOL

[moneysgirl]

Hey canespacers! I really enjoyed meeting everyone this weekend. We had a great time. Hope you see everyone at a later game! NIKKI

[mi@mic@ne]

actually this is a cool place .. calvin... 86.. mmike... solar... i like to read the long post ... especially calvin..puts a human face on the canes. But everyone has something worth reading... especially when they bring back memories of the times and places of miami . I get a weird connection.

[86Cane]

86 is that dude.

Posted by: Hurriphin | October 25, 2009 at 09:52 PM

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...not so LOUD!

[CanesAddiction]

Did I mention that JSQ has dull colored eyes?

See below:

Va Cane just made a great post. Thank you.

Look guys, we just lost to a good team that played great.

We can certainly blame all the things that went wrong and be accurate doing so. Coaching, players, injuries and everything in between.

We're still a lot better than last year. These young players are the real deal. While there aren't yet enough of them on this team we all need to just grab hold of a rail.

Why?

Because we all knew that this would be a wild ride back to the top. Yesterday was a bump in the road and we all knew bumps would be on the way. Our best players are Soph's and you can't be world beaters at 19.

We need improvement and we ARE improving.

Go Canes

[86Cane]

Hey canespacers! I really enjoyed meeting everyone this weekend. We had a great time. Hope you see everyone at a later game! NIKKI

Posted by: moneysgirl | October 25, 2009 at 09:55 PM

OH HELL!

The women are taking over this place again.

This Nikki is dangerous, watch her. ;-)

[solarcane]

86 is that dude.
Posted by: Hurriphin | October 25, 2009 at 09:52 PM

86 gots this
peace

[pb(CSROH10)]

Anyone who's bitching about this team should have their head examined.

JMO

[moneycane]

Yeah 86 we hit up Smokey Bones again before we dipped out. Made for a nice snack for the long drive. mm01 I made it back safe and I hope I don't have to punch an FSU fan in the face at work tomorrow

[mi@mic@ne]

it is almost Halloween just sayin

[moneycane]

I agree pb. After every loss it's the same old song and dance. Fire everyone and the CANES won't win another game. It's a long season and there will be ebb and flow I just hope we end up on the winning end more often than not. A few years ago this team was in a black hole moving basckwards and we are just getting to where we can compete with any team in the country.

[86Cane]

Money...nothing personal, but no need to post anymore.

Where is MoneyGirl?

[Hurriphin]

Playing the DEMON DEACONS at WF, on Halloween.

If it's a night game as well, watch out. Things could get a little creepy.

[Canezitis]

funny how everybody jumps on here to bytch when we lose.i was pissed at the loss too,but we have the rest of the season.
hell we might lose one more game to who knows who and it will still be a big improvement from last yr.
i'm still hopin we win out and destroy whoever we play in a bowl game so we'll have momentum next yr when the real title hunt begins.
no excuses next year as most of the team will then be juniors and sophs w/ tons of experience.

[miamimike01]

3:30 kickoff, BTW. Wake Forest game

[Rashad]

I usually say the better team won, but I cant say that after this game. Clemson had the best player but Miami had the better team. Tough loss to swallow, but oh well, time to see how the coaching staff gets the boys ready for Wake Forest

[miamimike01]

Next year, Canezitis,

UM will be inexperienced on the O-Line. Franklin needs to return, and UM will be replacing three starters. (Fox, Pipho, and Trump)

LT: B. Jones
LG: Franklin
C: BWash
RG: Figs
RT: Bunche, Johnson, Plein, Feliciano?

LB, CB depth? QB? OL? These questions are STILL NOT solved, even after the recruits are signed in February.

The starters can play with ANYONE in the country, but depth is where teams win NC's.

[miamimike01]

Gunn figures to be a RG or C, forgot him. He's interchangable, like BWash.

[Windy]

I was appalled at the number of Clemson players that played HS football in Fla. that were making plays for Clemson. And to think that the Coker did not recruit Ford in a year where the Canes had no WR talent at all.

The Canes have 5 games left, and if they can win out they will be in a very good bowl game, and may still make a BCS bowl. A 10 win season is a very, good season.

I guess at this point in the season, we can say who is producing and who is a disappointment.

Producting: Hankerson, T-Benj., Berry, Coop, McCarthy, Sharpton (last three games), Harris (both)

Not meeting expectations: AJ, Byrd, JJ, Spence, VT

Much has been said about who contributed to the loss, but I am going to add some controversial criticsm. I think Spence and AJ are very big disappointments. I hope they go out and prove me wrong in the remaining 5-6 games. Spence may be playing hurt, but if his pass coverage dossn't improve, he will never be a star at the next level.

I will focus a little on AJ. AJ has not run good routes this year and he does not get open. Jacory is not throwing him the ball because he does not get separation and I don't see the effort. I have a feeling AJ is partially responsible for one of McDaniel's interceptions by cutting off his route. It appeared to me that Jacory was throwing to a spot, and the McDaniel read it and AJ cut off his route and let it happen.

I was also disappointed in AJ when after that interception he did not even hustle or try to tackle McDaniel. I say its time to give Streeter a shot because we know what AJ can do (or can't do).

Both Coop and JJ are very good RBs, but Damien Berry is our best RB. At some point, Whipple and RS will have to acknowledge that and play him. Once they do, the running game can explode.

We have had way too many injuries on D. I don't recall any team with some many injuries for key personnel on D. I think injuries account for more of the Canes struggles on D than anything.

Like Miamimike01 said, there is a silver lining to this loss. The Canes turned the ball over 4 times, gave up a KO return for a TD and suffered bad play-calling at the end and still almost won.

The Canes are still on track for a double-digit-win season, they just need to get a lot better.

GO CANES!

[moneysgirl]

Money...nothing personal, but no need to post anymore.

Where is MoneyGirl?

Posted by: 86Cane | October 25, 2009 at 10:14 PM

Geez Tom! I know I'm your new fave canespacer but there's no need to shun the oldies okay?

[Caneslegend]

Let me ask everyone. Shannon is the best and he is doing a great job. When do we have the right to say his coaching sucks? What year 4 or 5? Miami is a great program there is no such thing as rebuilding? Its called reloading? I know I already hear it well he inherited Coker's team. Right? And he wasn't apart of that unit? Right?lol...I love coach Shannon. If you guys ever talk to Dan Selio former Hurricane who should have the respect to say anything? He says Randy is not the man for the job. Flat outa and he loves the guy and his friend. So when I say Randy is not the guy to take us to NC. Thats ok. We need somebody to take us there. Great cordinator i don't think he is a good coach. Recruiting is half the battle but he struggles coaching the game. It's obvious. Miami is not a program of on the field training it is about winning now. I hate when people say if we had Fortson we would have won? lol...what a joke. I don't think that kid even has a tackle this year. Child Please...lol...Just let me know when we can talk bad about Randy...If he loses 2 more games this year. With that schedule we should win the rest of our games. No excuses. Right? Or if they lose lets say it now. Were young.

[pb(CSROH10)]

Or if they lose lets say it now. Were young.

Posted by: Caneslegend | October 25, 2009 at 10:50 PM

So if we win with a team dominated by freshmen and sophomores we were supposed to, but if we don't we arent allowed to mention it?

[mi@mic@ne]

I do not think there is anyone here that will accept losing even if Randy holds on for an extra yr. At some point its going to be the time just like Coker. Granted we should not have lost this game... period. Its adjustments at the rite time.. but we do have a lot of d line that is not playing that would have had the sacks we needed especially at the end when we needed them the most cause we would have had better rotation.

But we have a good chemistry with the coaches. I think just like Windy said that we gave up a lot of cushion because of all the gimme touches and some of the end of the game decisions. But if we can adjust better then it will be more than say a touchdown victory. I still argue that we were 2 touches better than Clemson as that cushion. We see if Randy can improve. Its a bunch of first yr stuff even in our coaching together.

[CanesAddiction]

Yes we're young, no our coaching isn't top notch.

Nobody is perfect, even Bill Belichik's video taping cheating azz isn't perfect.

Even Tom Brady lost a Super Bowl.

Relax guys, this team is learning lessons and growing before our eyes. They're already a lot better than last year.

[JCane]

As I said yesterday, and it looked pure and simple to me, on 3rd down nearing the end of regulation and needing 3ish yards to go, and you see every single dadgum (uh-oh, I'm sending like my last name starts with B) defensive player in the box, it's not hard to figure what to do given this type of team and its strengths. If the qb is given permission to exercise judgment in this type of scenario and check off, then this needs to happen. 90+% someone will open up quickly and only a bad pass screws it up. Also, I felt Berry likely would have been the better back given the sets run in OT when goal to go if feeling it necessary to run every play. Also, as I'd said yesterday, I just don't see how you call TO and then have 12 men on the field right after....

I am fine with the current record and see it as about right for where the team is. However, there is a difference between losing vs. losing for the types of reasons UM went down yesterday.

Attendance at home will be an ongoing issue unfortunately. Our fans are largely fickle to begin with, and the U isn't so great at creating reasonable pricing for tickets. Unless you get the cheap tix in the end zone, everything else runs upper 80s or above. Many aren't going to be able to afford this on a routine basis. This means many real fans will have to pick 1-2 games to hit and watch others on the tube, sad to say.

This isn't the type of thing that worries me regarding recruiting except if becomes clear there is some type of coaching civil war going on. The question raises questions. Otherwise, how this team finishes means everything. They can't fall apart like they did last year without starting to get a label. They are playing games that all look to be easier matchups than Clemson did. WFU hasn't looked good in recent weeks, so this is a statement (or needs to be) game coming up.

We may have to deal with a bowl game option with stupid cows that can't spell unfortunately....

[raizecane]

Just now getting to read the blog. Was depressed from the game last night and did way to many yeager bombs and paid the price today.

But just like my hangover, this loss has passed and we move forward.

Go CANES.

[Caneslegend]

So if we have injuries next year we can blame that for losing to? Ok they are better than last year we were 7-6...I hope we would be better than that. We really weren't that good last year. If Randy doesn't have double digit wins next year we should think about replacing him. Somebody said the adjustments during the game weren't that good. Who is in charge of that? Who is holding the assitants accountable? Its Randy? When did you ever see a Assistant yell at a head coach like that at a top notch program. Never seen happen to Carrol, Urban, Saban...Please tell me where that happens?

[pb(CSROH10)]

Expected starters and/or key players on offense:

Jacory-True Soph
Byrd-True Soph
AJ-True Soph
Benjamin-True Soph
Collier-True Soph
Gunn-Redshirt Soph

And on Defense:

Spence-True Soph
Harris-True Soph
Ray Ray-True Fresh
Vaugh-Redshirt Fresh
A.Smith-True Soph
Vernon-True Fresh
Ojomo-True Soph
Fortson-True Soph

That's a lot of young players.

And that aint JMO.

JMO...

[miamimike01]

right, pb. Just ain't YHO. It's fact.

The CORE of this team is 19-20 years old. They can't even buy winecoolers for their girlfriends. Legally. LOL!

Not passing judgement on this staff until this time next year, IF they remain intact. I hope they do. (BTW) RS is on solid ground, so are Lovett and Whipple. McGriff has coached his behind off, as well as Hill.

THE BEST IS YET TO COME

[mi@mic@ne]

They have already won a lot of big games... especially the GT game... that was in my opinion a putting it together game.. possibly because we had all the horses. We have a very good coaching staff IMHO.

I am also from the generation where the U i saw was light yrs faster than most of the teams they played... its a different game now. I think Randy is going to take us there.

[miamimike01]

It's ALL about the Willie's and the Joe's;

Not necessarily the X's and O's.

Willie: "Present".

Joe: "I'm on my way".

[Sarasota 'cane]

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[Sarasota 'cane]

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[pb(CSROH10)]

I am also from the generation where the U i saw was light yrs faster than most of the teams they played... its a different game now.

Posted by: mi@mic@ne | October 25, 2009 at 11:30 PM

Saturday was the first time I EVER remember a running back smoking our dbs speed wise.

[miamimike01]

Willie: "Present".

Joe: "I'm on my way".

Posted by: miamimike01 | October 25, 2009 at 11:32 PM

Just look at my avatar. KEVIN and DEVONT'A:

On the way. Just wait. U haven't seen what I've seen, in this case.

Help IS on the way. Canespacers, TRUST ME on this.

"I GOT THIS"

[mi@mic@ne]

Its sad that he was a product of the coaching in south florida...hes gone next yr... we still have those Coker yrs hitting us. Just think what it would have been for us to face Jh and the boys on other teams..

[Canez1]

Posted by: miamimike01 | October 25, 2009 at 11:45 PM

That right there says it all.

If this team needs help from two kids still in HS we are definitely not where we need to be as a program.

We are gettin there....

Caddyshack on CMT right now.

Insomnia strikes again!

GO CANEZ!!!!!

[pb(CSROH10)]

Caddyshack on CMT right now.

Posted by: Canez1 | October 25, 2009 at 11:59 PM

Gambling is illegal at Bushwood, and I never slice.

[miamimike01]

Canez1,

RS is in Yr. 3 of rebuilding. 5-2, I'll take it. Could we be 6-1? Yeah, but I like the direction.

It takes time to build depth. Several recruiting classes. RS JUST has two. Give him and staff time.

We are gettin there....

Posted by: Canez1 | October 25, 2009 at 11:59 PM

STILL NOT where we need to be... but RS WILL lead us to the promised land...

[SJMPARMAN]

This team is on the right track. Reminds me of 1981, when the Canes were probably the best team but lost two close games, including one against Texas that was decided on a disputed PI call. This team is very very good. Are they national champs? No. Are they national chumps? No. I would caution everyone that every coach needs 4 years. Randy is no different.

Whipple is a great coach. Did he make a few bad calls? Absolutely. Did he make a lot of great calls? Absolutely. But when you have first and goal at the five in OT, and you run the ball three times, and you don't fumble, that is on the players when you do not score. That means your guys didn't do EVERYTHING it takes to win.

I love this team, when or lose, they fight hard and play to the whistle blows. Yesterday, the wrong team won. But those guys players very very well, and rather than bad mouth players or coaches, we should acknowledge the effort. Some times, the good guys don't win. At least this week. Next week will be different.

[Sarasota 'cane]

Hey caneslegend, for over 12 hours now you and your boy Donkey have been on here trying to get everyone to agree with your ridiculous premis that Randy is not a head coach.

Take that garbage somewhere else. No one is listening, not the true fans, nor the recruit's!

Are you suggesting that injuries have not played a part in what happened yesterday? Are you suggesting that the games outcome would have been the same if Forston, Spence, Ojomo, Philips, Fig, Jo Jo, etc., etc. were in there?

Are you suggesting that UM won't be better when 53 freshman and sophmores become 53 sophmores and juniors?

Your agenda is absurd! Randy has corrected EVERY single shortcoming he and his assistant's have encountered at The U. Why is it Clemson isn't being burned at the stake for using their timeouts before the end of the game? How do you know what Randy, Whipple, Lovett, Jacory saw when they called the timeouts? You don't know!

When is it ok to call for Randy's head as a fan??????? NEVER!!! That's not your job. Your job is to support the team, thats it! Is it ok to show a little frustration? Sure it is, but at some point you have to realize that the coaches want to win more than we do. They are spending 70-80 hours a week to put up points and stop the other team. I didn't like the play calling at the end of regulation. What the hell do I know? Randy didn't kick the ball to Spiller. The kid that did lost his job.

You and pimple, donkey, kehoe, etc. can stick it! For you to spend over 12 hours on here today trying to convince US fan's that Randy is not the right guy for The U is a joke! Your "disgruntled canes fan" schtick has worn out it's welcome here. We'll worry about OUR team, U worry about yours!

Go 'canes!

[phillyscott]

111

[Esteban]

Pb, I remember jahvid best making the secondary look slow.

But then again those two are probably the fastest RBs in the nation along with Jeff demps. And some of the fastest players period.

[Esteban]

And canelegend we still got a chance of winning double digits this year. And the team is young. It is what it is. But still it's a game we should have won. Hopefully the guys show their pride and right what they did wrong - coaches n players.

[mm01]

^^ WHAT HE SAID^^

[miamimike01]

Hey, TLuv, what do U think of my pic with the lovely JSQ?

[miamimike01]

Oh, TLuv, that's Kevin Nelson and Devont'a Davis, for my avatar. I interviewed them twice! Hit up the Canespace archives...

Going Deep, Going Deeper...

[miamimike01]

another feature coming, Canespacers...

This was only the beginning.

I already have a plan to meet up w/Kevin during the UVA game...

[Daddeh]

Wuzz good Darksidehz,...My thoughts as a coach, Players WIN the game,...Coaches LOSE the game,...Period

Talofahz from deh Islandz

[miamimike01]

ROHAN?

[Six]

There's a lot of stuff that goes on the sidelines that you DON'T see

You only see what the cameraman, technical director and director choose for you to see

I made a post about this earlier, look at this message board during a game. If someone was to come onto this board, not even have the game on, they could tell exactly what was happening by the Grand Canyon sized emotional roller coaster that happens ... it's like a bunch of women that are cycling the crimson time of the month together b/c they're stuck in a house with each other. This guy sucks, that guy sucks, this guy should get fired .. 2 possessions later .. this guy is great, that guy is great, this guy made a great call .. rinse and repeat

Look how bad it gets on here, now imagine how bad it is on the field - esp. in that moment - when you're trying to move the ball down the field to score before half with frustration still running high b/c of the kickoff run back for a TD and your kids had the wrong play they executed. You then have 46 seconds to try and get the ball into scoring position, you get to their 32 yard line with 20 seconds left

Would the situation make you a little heated? Esp. if you're a Coordinator and obviously an uber-anal-perfectionist like Whip? Uh, yeah, I'd say it would

Then what happens after the timeout? You get a substitution infraction for 5 yards and that's inexcusable, considering you had the timeout to get sh*t straight. Then you have a TE that can't find the ball in the air ... then you have Jacory throwing the ball up for his life b/c he's getting unloaded on by Clemson - INT

If the director in the booth didn't tell the camera to focus on Whipple and Randy on the sidelines during that called timeout, this wouldn't even be an issue on here, or in the electronic/print media

If the director in the booth didn't tell the cameraman to follow Whipple as soon as the clock wound down at halftime, then this wouldn't even be an issue on here

Just like if that one bored ass cameraman at the FSU game hadn't have been scanning the crowd and focusing in on that attention skank Jen Sterger during the game, and the technical director didn't put her on the screen - then all the enormous amounts of publicity she garnered from it for some reason, wouldn't have happened - would it.

Who cares if Randy and Whip got heated at each other for what, 2 minutes maybe? Heat of the moment, heat of battle, frustration of things not happening how they want them to came out and a camera just happen to be there for everyone to see

Think that a lot of people are blowing it too far out of proportion

It's not like it was the Tom Cable incident, or the Buddy Ryan/Jeff Fisher incident

[Six]

Move on, watch film, make corrections, focus on Wake Forest ... you can't get in that silver DeLorean with Doc Brown and Marty McFly to go back and change anything

Just hope that Spence's knee recovers and everyone else that is hurt as well

You wonder why Spence couldn't cover CJ Spiller on that TD pass? Not even anyone healthy on the team with 2 good knees could cover Spiller, but Spence is supposed to with one real bad knee? I don't think the coaching staff would just let Spence be one-on-one with Spiller when they knew he was working with a bum tire - pretty sure someone in the secondary didn't help like they should've

[Cat 5 Cane]

... it's been a long weekend.

[NativeCane]

Q- Has the post Canes loss bloodletting subsided?
A- After a victory over WF all will be forgiven and the prognosticators will be figuring our chances to get to Tampa Dec. 5th.

[Old Skool]

Hey 404
How about adding foreskin earrings to your outfit.

[NativeCane]

404, get your sister or a facsimile (bodacious female co-worker) to accompany you on your jorts wearing mullet sporting halloween romp.
Go Canes!!!

[MassivCane]

This was written by Manny: Not only did the Canes have to burn timeouts again because they didn't have the right personnel on the field, this team was never in the right mind set. Both Lovett and Whipple needed to be more aggressive in this game. Lovett with the blitz and Whipple with his best weapon -- his receivers. Neither called for their best weapons enough. Grade: D.

Question: Is't that Shannon's call, to be more aggressive?

[solarcane]

four days ago we were good enough to finish 3ed in the nation with the exact same young banged up guys according to a lot of people on here.

Now we are too young and too thin and too new a coaching staff by the same exact people on here.

It's always been Randy's 4th year team from the beginning a few of us said.
86,dtx,roach, truth, skool, me funny how old farts see stuff.

off to work have a great day

peace

[pb(CSROH10)]

Posted by: solarcane | October 26, 2009 at 08:22 AM

Still think despite the injuries we were good enough to finish third.

But I also thought it would take Randy a full recruiting cycle to turn this around.