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October 25, 2009

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mi@mic@ne

it is almost Halloween just sayin

moneycane

I agree pb. After every loss it's the same old song and dance. Fire everyone and the CANES won't win another game. It's a long season and there will be ebb and flow I just hope we end up on the winning end more often than not. A few years ago this team was in a black hole moving basckwards and we are just getting to where we can compete with any team in the country.

86Cane

Money...nothing personal, but no need to post anymore.

Where is MoneyGirl?

Hurriphin

Playing the DEMON DEACONS at WF, on Halloween.

If it's a night game as well, watch out. Things could get a little creepy.

Canezitis

funny how everybody jumps on here to bytch when we lose.i was pissed at the loss too,but we have the rest of the season.
hell we might lose one more game to who knows who and it will still be a big improvement from last yr.
i'm still hopin we win out and destroy whoever we play in a bowl game so we'll have momentum next yr when the real title hunt begins.
no excuses next year as most of the team will then be juniors and sophs w/ tons of experience.

miamimike01

3:30 kickoff, BTW. Wake Forest game

Rashad

I usually say the better team won, but I cant say that after this game. Clemson had the best player but Miami had the better team. Tough loss to swallow, but oh well, time to see how the coaching staff gets the boys ready for Wake Forest

miamimike01

Next year, Canezitis,

UM will be inexperienced on the O-Line. Franklin needs to return, and UM will be replacing three starters. (Fox, Pipho, and Trump)


LT: B. Jones
LG: Franklin
C: BWash
RG: Figs
RT: Bunche, Johnson, Plein, Feliciano?

LB, CB depth? QB? OL? These questions are STILL NOT solved, even after the recruits are signed in February.

The starters can play with ANYONE in the country, but depth is where teams win NC's.

miamimike01

Gunn figures to be a RG or C, forgot him. He's interchangable, like BWash.

Windy

I was appalled at the number of Clemson players that played HS football in Fla. that were making plays for Clemson. And to think that the Coker did not recruit Ford in a year where the Canes had no WR talent at all.

The Canes have 5 games left, and if they can win out they will be in a very good bowl game, and may still make a BCS bowl. A 10 win season is a very, good season.

I guess at this point in the season, we can say who is producing and who is a disappointment.

Producting: Hankerson, T-Benj., Berry, Coop, McCarthy, Sharpton (last three games), Harris (both)

Not meeting expectations: AJ, Byrd, JJ, Spence, VT

Much has been said about who contributed to the loss, but I am going to add some controversial criticsm. I think Spence and AJ are very big disappointments. I hope they go out and prove me wrong in the remaining 5-6 games. Spence may be playing hurt, but if his pass coverage dossn't improve, he will never be a star at the next level.

I will focus a little on AJ. AJ has not run good routes this year and he does not get open. Jacory is not throwing him the ball because he does not get separation and I don't see the effort. I have a feeling AJ is partially responsible for one of McDaniel's interceptions by cutting off his route. It appeared to me that Jacory was throwing to a spot, and the McDaniel read it and AJ cut off his route and let it happen.

I was also disappointed in AJ when after that interception he did not even hustle or try to tackle McDaniel. I say its time to give Streeter a shot because we know what AJ can do (or can't do).

Both Coop and JJ are very good RBs, but Damien Berry is our best RB. At some point, Whipple and RS will have to acknowledge that and play him. Once they do, the running game can explode.

We have had way too many injuries on D. I don't recall any team with some many injuries for key personnel on D. I think injuries account for more of the Canes struggles on D than anything.

Like Miamimike01 said, there is a silver lining to this loss. The Canes turned the ball over 4 times, gave up a KO return for a TD and suffered bad play-calling at the end and still almost won.

The Canes are still on track for a double-digit-win season, they just need to get a lot better.

GO CANES!

moneysgirl

Money...nothing personal, but no need to post anymore.

Where is MoneyGirl?

Posted by: 86Cane | October 25, 2009 at 10:14 PM

Geez Tom! I know I'm your new fave canespacer but there's no need to shun the oldies okay?

Caneslegend

Let me ask everyone. Shannon is the best and he is doing a great job. When do we have the right to say his coaching sucks? What year 4 or 5? Miami is a great program there is no such thing as rebuilding? Its called reloading? I know I already hear it well he inherited Coker's team. Right? And he wasn't apart of that unit? Right?lol...I love coach Shannon. If you guys ever talk to Dan Selio former Hurricane who should have the respect to say anything? He says Randy is not the man for the job. Flat outa and he loves the guy and his friend. So when I say Randy is not the guy to take us to NC. Thats ok. We need somebody to take us there. Great cordinator i don't think he is a good coach. Recruiting is half the battle but he struggles coaching the game. It's obvious. Miami is not a program of on the field training it is about winning now. I hate when people say if we had Fortson we would have won? lol...what a joke. I don't think that kid even has a tackle this year. Child Please...lol...Just let me know when we can talk bad about Randy...If he loses 2 more games this year. With that schedule we should win the rest of our games. No excuses. Right? Or if they lose lets say it now. Were young.

pb(CSROH10)

Or if they lose lets say it now. Were young.

Posted by: Caneslegend | October 25, 2009 at 10:50 PM


So if we win with a team dominated by freshmen and sophomores we were supposed to, but if we don't we arent allowed to mention it?

mi@mic@ne

I do not think there is anyone here that will accept losing even if Randy holds on for an extra yr. At some point its going to be the time just like Coker. Granted we should not have lost this game... period. Its adjustments at the rite time.. but we do have a lot of d line that is not playing that would have had the sacks we needed especially at the end when we needed them the most cause we would have had better rotation.

But we have a good chemistry with the coaches. I think just like Windy said that we gave up a lot of cushion because of all the gimme touches and some of the end of the game decisions. But if we can adjust better then it will be more than say a touchdown victory. I still argue that we were 2 touches better than Clemson as that cushion. We see if Randy can improve. Its a bunch of first yr stuff even in our coaching together.

CanesAddiction

Yes we're young, no our coaching isn't top notch.

Nobody is perfect, even Bill Belichik's video taping cheating azz isn't perfect.

Even Tom Brady lost a Super Bowl.

Relax guys, this team is learning lessons and growing before our eyes. They're already a lot better than last year.

JCane

As I said yesterday, and it looked pure and simple to me, on 3rd down nearing the end of regulation and needing 3ish yards to go, and you see every single dadgum (uh-oh, I'm sending like my last name starts with B) defensive player in the box, it's not hard to figure what to do given this type of team and its strengths. If the qb is given permission to exercise judgment in this type of scenario and check off, then this needs to happen. 90+% someone will open up quickly and only a bad pass screws it up. Also, I felt Berry likely would have been the better back given the sets run in OT when goal to go if feeling it necessary to run every play. Also, as I'd said yesterday, I just don't see how you call TO and then have 12 men on the field right after....

I am fine with the current record and see it as about right for where the team is. However, there is a difference between losing vs. losing for the types of reasons UM went down yesterday.

Attendance at home will be an ongoing issue unfortunately. Our fans are largely fickle to begin with, and the U isn't so great at creating reasonable pricing for tickets. Unless you get the cheap tix in the end zone, everything else runs upper 80s or above. Many aren't going to be able to afford this on a routine basis. This means many real fans will have to pick 1-2 games to hit and watch others on the tube, sad to say.

This isn't the type of thing that worries me regarding recruiting except if becomes clear there is some type of coaching civil war going on. The question raises questions. Otherwise, how this team finishes means everything. They can't fall apart like they did last year without starting to get a label. They are playing games that all look to be easier matchups than Clemson did. WFU hasn't looked good in recent weeks, so this is a statement (or needs to be) game coming up.

We may have to deal with a bowl game option with stupid cows that can't spell unfortunately....

raizecane

Just now getting to read the blog. Was depressed from the game last night and did way to many yeager bombs and paid the price today.

But just like my hangover, this loss has passed and we move forward.

Go CANES.

Caneslegend

So if we have injuries next year we can blame that for losing to? Ok they are better than last year we were 7-6...I hope we would be better than that. We really weren't that good last year. If Randy doesn't have double digit wins next year we should think about replacing him. Somebody said the adjustments during the game weren't that good. Who is in charge of that? Who is holding the assitants accountable? Its Randy? When did you ever see a Assistant yell at a head coach like that at a top notch program. Never seen happen to Carrol, Urban, Saban...Please tell me where that happens?

pb(CSROH10)

Expected starters and/or key players on offense:

Jacory-True Soph
Byrd-True Soph
AJ-True Soph
Benjamin-True Soph
Collier-True Soph
Gunn-Redshirt Soph

And on Defense:

Spence-True Soph
Harris-True Soph
Ray Ray-True Fresh
Vaugh-Redshirt Fresh
A.Smith-True Soph
Vernon-True Fresh
Ojomo-True Soph
Fortson-True Soph


That's a lot of young players.

And that aint JMO.


JMO...

miamimike01

right, pb. Just ain't YHO. It's fact.

The CORE of this team is 19-20 years old. They can't even buy winecoolers for their girlfriends. Legally. LOL!

Not passing judgement on this staff until this time next year, IF they remain intact. I hope they do. (BTW) RS is on solid ground, so are Lovett and Whipple. McGriff has coached his behind off, as well as Hill.

THE BEST IS YET TO COME

mi@mic@ne

They have already won a lot of big games... especially the GT game... that was in my opinion a putting it together game.. possibly because we had all the horses. We have a very good coaching staff IMHO.

I am also from the generation where the U i saw was light yrs faster than most of the teams they played... its a different game now. I think Randy is going to take us there.

miamimike01

It's ALL about the Willie's and the Joe's;

Not necessarily the X's and O's.

Willie: "Present".

Joe: "I'm on my way".

Sarasota 'cane

u

Sarasota 'cane

U

pb(CSROH10)

I am also from the generation where the U i saw was light yrs faster than most of the teams they played... its a different game now.

Posted by: mi@mic@ne | October 25, 2009 at 11:30 PM


Saturday was the first time I EVER remember a running back smoking our dbs speed wise.

miamimike01

Willie: "Present".

Joe: "I'm on my way".

Posted by: miamimike01 | October 25, 2009 at 11:32 PM

Just look at my avatar. KEVIN and DEVONT'A:

On the way. Just wait. U haven't seen what I've seen, in this case.

Help IS on the way. Canespacers, TRUST ME on this.

"I GOT THIS"

mi@mic@ne

Its sad that he was a product of the coaching in south florida...hes gone next yr... we still have those Coker yrs hitting us. Just think what it would have been for us to face Jh and the boys on other teams..

Canez1

Posted by: miamimike01 | October 25, 2009 at 11:45 PM

That right there says it all.

If this team needs help from two kids still in HS we are definitely not where we need to be as a program.

We are gettin there....

Caddyshack on CMT right now.

Insomnia strikes again!

GO CANEZ!!!!!

pb(CSROH10)

Caddyshack on CMT right now.

Posted by: Canez1 | October 25, 2009 at 11:59 PM

Gambling is illegal at Bushwood, and I never slice.

miamimike01

Canez1,

RS is in Yr. 3 of rebuilding. 5-2, I'll take it. Could we be 6-1? Yeah, but I like the direction.

It takes time to build depth. Several recruiting classes. RS JUST has two. Give him and staff time.

We are gettin there....

Posted by: Canez1 | October 25, 2009 at 11:59 PM

STILL NOT where we need to be... but RS WILL lead us to the promised land...

SJMPARMAN

This team is on the right track. Reminds me of 1981, when the Canes were probably the best team but lost two close games, including one against Texas that was decided on a disputed PI call. This team is very very good. Are they national champs? No. Are they national chumps? No. I would caution everyone that every coach needs 4 years. Randy is no different.

Whipple is a great coach. Did he make a few bad calls? Absolutely. Did he make a lot of great calls? Absolutely. But when you have first and goal at the five in OT, and you run the ball three times, and you don't fumble, that is on the players when you do not score. That means your guys didn't do EVERYTHING it takes to win.

I love this team, when or lose, they fight hard and play to the whistle blows. Yesterday, the wrong team won. But those guys players very very well, and rather than bad mouth players or coaches, we should acknowledge the effort. Some times, the good guys don't win. At least this week. Next week will be different.

Sarasota 'cane

Hey caneslegend, for over 12 hours now you and your boy Donkey have been on here trying to get everyone to agree with your ridiculous premis that Randy is not a head coach.

Take that garbage somewhere else. No one is listening, not the true fans, nor the recruit's!

Are you suggesting that injuries have not played a part in what happened yesterday? Are you suggesting that the games outcome would have been the same if Forston, Spence, Ojomo, Philips, Fig, Jo Jo, etc., etc. were in there?

Are you suggesting that UM won't be better when 53 freshman and sophmores become 53 sophmores and juniors?

Your agenda is absurd! Randy has corrected EVERY single shortcoming he and his assistant's have encountered at The U. Why is it Clemson isn't being burned at the stake for using their timeouts before the end of the game? How do you know what Randy, Whipple, Lovett, Jacory saw when they called the timeouts? You don't know!

When is it ok to call for Randy's head as a fan??????? NEVER!!! That's not your job. Your job is to support the team, thats it! Is it ok to show a little frustration? Sure it is, but at some point you have to realize that the coaches want to win more than we do. They are spending 70-80 hours a week to put up points and stop the other team. I didn't like the play calling at the end of regulation. What the hell do I know? Randy didn't kick the ball to Spiller. The kid that did lost his job.

You and pimple, donkey, kehoe, etc. can stick it! For you to spend over 12 hours on here today trying to convince US fan's that Randy is not the right guy for The U is a joke! Your "disgruntled canes fan" schtick has worn out it's welcome here. We'll worry about OUR team, U worry about yours!

Go 'canes!

phillyscott

111

Esteban

Pb, I remember jahvid best making the secondary look slow.

But then again those two are probably the fastest RBs in the nation along with Jeff demps. And some of the fastest players period.

Esteban

And canelegend we still got a chance of winning double digits this year. And the team is young. It is what it is. But still it's a game we should have won. Hopefully the guys show their pride and right what they did wrong - coaches n players.

mm01

^^ WHAT HE SAID^^

miamimike01

Hey, TLuv, what do U think of my pic with the lovely JSQ?

miamimike01

Oh, TLuv, that's Kevin Nelson and Devont'a Davis, for my avatar. I interviewed them twice! Hit up the Canespace archives...

Going Deep, Going Deeper...

miamimike01

another feature coming, Canespacers...

This was only the beginning.

I already have a plan to meet up w/Kevin during the UVA game...

Daddeh

Wuzz good Darksidehz,...My thoughts as a coach, Players WIN the game,...Coaches LOSE the game,...Period


Talofahz from deh Islandz

miamimike01

ROHAN?

Six

There's a lot of stuff that goes on the sidelines that you DON'T see

You only see what the cameraman, technical director and director choose for you to see

I made a post about this earlier, look at this message board during a game. If someone was to come onto this board, not even have the game on, they could tell exactly what was happening by the Grand Canyon sized emotional roller coaster that happens ... it's like a bunch of women that are cycling the crimson time of the month together b/c they're stuck in a house with each other. This guy sucks, that guy sucks, this guy should get fired .. 2 possessions later .. this guy is great, that guy is great, this guy made a great call .. rinse and repeat

Look how bad it gets on here, now imagine how bad it is on the field - esp. in that moment - when you're trying to move the ball down the field to score before half with frustration still running high b/c of the kickoff run back for a TD and your kids had the wrong play they executed. You then have 46 seconds to try and get the ball into scoring position, you get to their 32 yard line with 20 seconds left

Would the situation make you a little heated? Esp. if you're a Coordinator and obviously an uber-anal-perfectionist like Whip? Uh, yeah, I'd say it would

Then what happens after the timeout? You get a substitution infraction for 5 yards and that's inexcusable, considering you had the timeout to get sh*t straight. Then you have a TE that can't find the ball in the air ... then you have Jacory throwing the ball up for his life b/c he's getting unloaded on by Clemson - INT

If the director in the booth didn't tell the camera to focus on Whipple and Randy on the sidelines during that called timeout, this wouldn't even be an issue on here, or in the electronic/print media

If the director in the booth didn't tell the cameraman to follow Whipple as soon as the clock wound down at halftime, then this wouldn't even be an issue on here

Just like if that one bored ass cameraman at the FSU game hadn't have been scanning the crowd and focusing in on that attention skank Jen Sterger during the game, and the technical director didn't put her on the screen - then all the enormous amounts of publicity she garnered from it for some reason, wouldn't have happened - would it.

Who cares if Randy and Whip got heated at each other for what, 2 minutes maybe? Heat of the moment, heat of battle, frustration of things not happening how they want them to came out and a camera just happen to be there for everyone to see

Think that a lot of people are blowing it too far out of proportion

It's not like it was the Tom Cable incident, or the Buddy Ryan/Jeff Fisher incident


Six

Move on, watch film, make corrections, focus on Wake Forest ... you can't get in that silver DeLorean with Doc Brown and Marty McFly to go back and change anything

Just hope that Spence's knee recovers and everyone else that is hurt as well

You wonder why Spence couldn't cover CJ Spiller on that TD pass? Not even anyone healthy on the team with 2 good knees could cover Spiller, but Spence is supposed to with one real bad knee? I don't think the coaching staff would just let Spence be one-on-one with Spiller when they knew he was working with a bum tire - pretty sure someone in the secondary didn't help like they should've

Cat 5 Cane

... it's been a long weekend.

NativeCane

Q- Has the post Canes loss bloodletting subsided?
A- After a victory over WF all will be forgiven and the prognosticators will be figuring our chances to get to Tampa Dec. 5th.

Old Skool

Hey 404
How about adding foreskin earrings to your outfit.

NativeCane

404, get your sister or a facsimile (bodacious female co-worker) to accompany you on your jorts wearing mullet sporting halloween romp.
Go Canes!!!

MassivCane

This was written by Manny: Not only did the Canes have to burn timeouts again because they didn't have the right personnel on the field, this team was never in the right mind set. Both Lovett and Whipple needed to be more aggressive in this game. Lovett with the blitz and Whipple with his best weapon -- his receivers. Neither called for their best weapons enough. Grade: D.

Question: Is't that Shannon's call, to be more aggressive?

solarcane

four days ago we were good enough to finish 3ed in the nation with the exact same young banged up guys according to a lot of people on here.

Now we are too young and too thin and too new a coaching staff by the same exact people on here.

It's always been Randy's 4th year team from the beginning a few of us said.
86,dtx,roach, truth, skool, me funny how old farts see stuff.

off to work have a great day

peace

pb(CSROH10)

Posted by: solarcane | October 26, 2009 at 08:22 AM

Still think despite the injuries we were good enough to finish third.

But I also thought it would take Randy a full recruiting cycle to turn this around.

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