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October 25, 2009

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BEERicane

Now we will see if Brees can overcome 2 early picks and lead his team back to victory over the Fins.


My prediciton... NOPE.

J12 > DB.... : ) (not really)

the dolphins really have come out of the gate and showed up to play... wow. I guess the people in vegas knew what they were talking about only setting that line at 6.5 in the Saint's favor. That was a really tempting line...

Sarasota 'cane

Man I needed the Dolphin's today!!!!

Thank God!

Go 'canes!

Go Dolphin's!

86Cane

Sarasota...let it go, don't cut and paste, don't respond, don't antagonize.

I'm going into "delete" mode in 5, 4, 3...

86Cane

Solar..."I got this".

Sarasota 'cane

Funny how he shows up for the first time today! Oh and he happens to have the same avatar as Kehoe, who happens to be "blowing up" The Sentinel as we speak!

Hmmmmmmmmmmm....

Give me a break. Kehoe, pimple, "fakey", Donkey, all the same garbage.

P.S. I'm not sure if your Gator's have enough offense to beat FSU "Donkey"! Man would that be fun!

Go 'canes!

86Cane

excuses, keep them coming...

Posted by: aqua | October 25, 2009 at 01:49 PM

It rained during our tailgate and we ran out of beer.

I knew right then we had no chance.

solarcane

I see the night crew is drifting in im out for dinner

catch you guys late tonight.

peace

tortugacane

Fins beating Saints...

canechic

321 canes no land to build a stadium on campus....do you know how land in Coral Gables would cost just to accomodate the size of a stadium?

Hurriphin I know what you mean and after last night...nothing is safe.

solarcane

captO

the point you made on we aren't quite as good as we thought we were is valid.

Some plays during games we look better than I thought we were.
The very same game we make mistakes I thought we had improved upon.

We are getting better at more things than we are staying the same at, but slowly.

Remember when you would scratch your head when I would say 8-4 or maybe 9-3?

We aren't ready to dominate the ACC, there are alwys gonna be the Clemson, UNC, GT.
Teams that play their best game the same night we self implode.

Once we learn how to kill when we have a team down, and Randy learns to be more aggressive for 4 quarters we will be the team you remember.

peace

86Cane

was the crowd as bad as it looked?

Posted by: USAFCane | October 25, 2009 at 02:25 PM

WORSE, 10X worse.

canechic

Ok home - My take!

HOTTER then U know what yesterday. In fact after we left Mary's tailgate went back to our car and some friends. There was an elderly gentleman stumbling and I looked at him and looked at Angry and said "I do not think he is okay". As sure as I said that he leans over a car and falls out. I went running to him and Angry went running for help. The man was shaking with eyes wide open and so cold. Trying not to freak cuz I thouht he was dying before me....I held onto him until help came. He finally came too but was in the beginning stages of a Heat Stroke. I was shaking......so began the game and still hotter than heck in that stadium. I love the Big Screens and the TV's in the tunnel but I really miss the breeze in the OB. Angry was out of control and the F word banter about way to much and then we lost.....but the sun came out and all is out in the open......so all I can say is win out and this will be a good season.

GO CANES!

PS-came back to my parents and my little girl so sick,not from drinking but with the stomach flu....so Angry and I spent our night taking turns holding her hair back. She works at the UM preschool with the babies and they were all puking on Friday...that is the bad thing about working at a preschool.:(

Caneslegend

Couldn't have said it any better 86. Go Canes

Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer

Coker would have took a lot of heat for that lose if we was still here. But I do have to hear how this Randy's 3 year and he is growing and we are getting better. This game reminded me of the games Coker would lose. I am just saying.

Posted by: Caneslegend | October 25, 2009 at 04:34 PM

>>>>

Legend, the only way a Coker team would've been in this game would be if he had the 2001-2003 teams. Otherwise, it would've been blowout city. And we more or less GAVE away this game, with TOs, sketchy play-calling at the end and some serious mental lapses.

But imagine Shannon, Lovett and Whip with the 2001-2003 teams. To me that's the picture that's coming. As someone else mentioned, this game was a lot like the '98/'99 PSU game.

And for some people talking about Butch, HOW MANY YEARS WAS BUTCH REBUILDING?? He was hired when, '94, then didn't build it back until 2000. So SIX YEARS, and he had 1st Rounders from '94 forward.

So Shannon's in Year 3.....hmmmmm

Six

It's like someone told Ricky that there was a free dufflebag full of OG Kush in the endzone b/c he was on a mission to get to it before anyone else

Pretty cool how quick they can turn around the mid-field logo like they do, from the "U" to the big Dolphin logo

Now if they could only move the stands closer to the field and knock off the top level of the stadium .....

321canes

just want to say that it was sad day yesterday, No canes fans support and we were in the top 10 against a game thats always in overtime drag out fight/ Clemson. MY peoples and i drove 3 hours to the stadium to see our beloved canes play and you have peeps in our own backyard a no show? WOW!Game day will never see us! One student told me that they want a campus stadium soo bad but the Univ is not allowing it because they are scared that some miami fans will trash the stadium and school? Makes sense forgoodness sakes look how the OB turn out. Ucf game was soooo full of canes from diffrent areas they came to support and the stadium was rockin with canes cheering!Yesterdaythe play calling was conservative, why 3 runs in A ROW in a OT thriller when there was in a goal line d. Matter of fact, they stack the box the whole game and blitz on 3rd and long, something that vtech did. In with that why put Javaris James in when he only had 3 carries prior 2 it? Berry should be our feature back hes our Bamas Ingram. Runs so hard, james is soft and some 1 needs to see that the coaches are favoring him because of the name and his Sr class. How do you run out of bounds in overtime why not give us at least 2 more yards barry you head and hit it.That would make it atleast 3rd n 3! Im tired of that! Another thing Im wondering? I love Whipples Offense but is he 1 dimensional? J12 is not looking comfortable, why not spread em out? no 1 can match are Wrs speed Im sorry! j12 sees the field better when he is in a shotgun formation!!!! he ran that @ NW. His feet is tapping tooo much when he drops back and hes throwing the ball before its Wr even gets there. Basically he does not trust his Oline to hold the block! Whipple has to use him in a shotgun sometimes! He just looks better! look at all the tapes in you will see last Yr. and some this yr when he was in shotgun his efficiency was better. Why playaction soooooooo much when the defense is not buying it! On D.our lbs and dline can't swarm to the ball, qbs have soo much time to throw and the only sacks we get is our coverage sacks sometime, the dline are so easy to get chop, no use of hands, no rip, swim moves??? techniques??? lbs??? wow we are good sometimes when they run but not when they are in passing coverage! Teams are sending their rbs one on one coverage with our lbs on passing downs. im just seeing some things... and im venting alittle but tell me im not far off! some1 needs to address this?


Hurriphin

Yeeeaaaaaaah!!

But unless Brees' arm gets severed, I won't feel safe, Six & Chic'. Sorry. It just comes with the years of suckdom I've had to endure over the past few.

Hurriphin

Swamp...here's the thing, people are suspicious of U because of these reasons:

If U are a Canes fan you would have or SHOULD have been posting here all along.

U would have had GREAT thins to say after UM beat GT and OU.

But U only come on THIS blog when U can trash the team or complain about Shannon.

That does not make U a Canes fan even if U CLAIM to be.

U claim that everyone has a right to their opinion and I agree. If your opinion is that UM sucks and Shannon is a bad coach, that's fine.

But if that is all U have to offer please take that trash talking, name calling and fight picking over to the Sun Sentinel and blog with the other five haters there where U belong.

Thank U!

The Management

Posted by: 86Cane | October 25, 2009 at 04:48 PM


FATALITY

FLAWLESS VICTORY

solarcane

sota,

I feel you brother.
I try like hell to be fair here.
I monitor Canespace as a favor to Soup, he's a good friend and I have his back.
The reason tom asked me to monitor for him is I believe in giving people a fair shake.

I'm not soft, I'm fair.

swamp you see a trend here?
your not making a lot of friends.

peace


canechic

Run Ricky Run!

Six

Hurriphin - the Fins are doing well against Brees, I need them to b/c the guy I'm playing against in FFootball has Brees but also has Sticky Icky Ricky who just scored

86Cane

Swamp...here's the thing, people are suspicious of U because of these reasons:

If U are a Canes fan you would have or SHOULD have been posting here all along.

U would have had GREAT thins to say after UM beat GT and OU.

But U only come on THIS blog when U can trash the team or complain about Shannon.

That does not make U a Canes fan even if U CLAIM to be.

U claim that everyone has a right to their opinion and I agree. If your opinion is that UM sucks and Shannon is a bad coach, that's fine.

But if that is all U have to offer please take that trash talking, name calling and fight picking over to the Sun Sentinel and blog with the other five haters there where U belong.

Thank U!

The Management

Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer

As the real seasons wears on things come into perspective

The Fairytale

Miami faces the toughest schedule in football and beat 3 top ranked teams out of four, they could win the ACC and contend for the NC

The reality

Miami is about the 16 to 20th best team in the country and beat a very good 11th ranked GT team.


peace

Posted by: solarcane | October 25, 2009 at 02:19 PM

>>>>>

Solar, if we make a few plays last night does this change?? Yes.

I think we'd beat a lot of teams ahead of us but I think we could lose to those same teams.

To me, the reality is we're not quite as good as we all thought we were, partially because of injuries partially experience, but we're a lot better than we were last year.

Six

And does a Gator fan turn down a baseball recruiting trip to UF cause he has no desire to play there? ( and that only 80% has to do with most likely not being able to qualify academically) lol

Posted by: Swamp Donkey


I would figure you wouldn't want to go on that recruiting trip not only b/c you're a Cane fan, but b/c Andy Lopez was leaving and the Crocs would've just gotten knocked out of going to Omaha by the Canes for the 6th time of the 8 times it has happened

solarcane

beeri,

If you take out the penalties , d line jumping to sack the qb to make up for no rush etc.

Coaches coaching players during the game
rather than glaring at them

Some kind of punt return

Contain Spiller 50% of the time

we would have won
those things were easily corrected during the game.

peace

BEERicane

Also, anyone notice any similarities between the Vikes game and the Canes. Both had ample opportunities only to squander them...

BEERicane

The thing I take from this game is that we played like absolute dog sheet for a huge chunk of the game and we were still in a position to win the game. I think we could be approaching the corner to turn, just haven't completed it yet.

Caneslegend

Coker would have took a lot of heat for that lose if we was still here. But I do have to hear how this Randy's 3 year and he is growing and we are getting better. This game reminded me of the games Coker would lose. I am just saying.

solarcane

aight,

I'm a patient man. EVERYBODY move on.

I don't care who the best athlete is, I don't care who is the richest, or the smartest.
Try being the most courteous, most informative, least arrogant blogger you can.

Este would come to mind as an example of a guy that brings in good stuff, never calls people names and isn't mean natured.

that's why we started Canespace, because we got tired of the garbage we had to endure with people back on TOS.

thanks
peace

Caneslegend

lol haa..

solarcane

"Cav and Calvin calling people retarded when they voice their displeasure. Why dont you call them out like me? Its only fair dude."

swamp you have a legitamite beef there.

Calvin and Cav and I go way way back so I admit I am biased toward giving them slack. It isn't fair, it's human nature.

Cav and Cal, keep the name calling out of it.

party on

peace

321canes

What up family?
IM BAAAAAAAAAAAACK!!

Finally! I got a new Mac and got rid of my old computer. Thing was forever going nuts.


What did i miss on the Gr8 Space?

anthony

Miami def. secondary could not cover my Grandmother and c.j. spiller owned the secondary like a suitcase. Three straight runs up the middle late in the 4th qtr was conservative and gave Clemson the game. Jacory had thown a 68 yard touchdown pass to t. benjamin on the prevois series and then Miami has three straight runs up the middle like a big ten school in the 70's. The kicking coverage was weak and has been that way all year. Penalties did not help. Hopfully Miami can learn from this loss and devolp a killer intinict

Caneslegend

I think everyone has right to there opinion. But when you call someone a retard or idiot. Come on guys. If you don't have a statement to back up what you are saying then shutup. Calling someone names shows you have no ability to express your point because your an idiot.

moneycane

every one is entiteled to their opinion but this a fact. If you care about ur CANES so much and live within 45 minutes of Landshark and don't go to every game then ur opinion holds no weight with me.

dawgmeatcane

Are the canes going after a cuople of QBs and BIG DTs in this years recruiting class?

Hurriphin

I am in agreement with Swamp Donkey on the "Retard" thing. Can't go Hitler a guy for having an opinion. As long as it's consistant with the facts he spits afterwards, it's all good. Let's just avoid acting like we're gonna meet up out back of Lockhart, and scrap. Not gonna happpen.

Bobby

i have been a canes fan for a long time so don't think i don't want them to win every game.I just want to tell the other canes fans take it slow you know what happen if you win to fast as seen in past years players leave early coachs get new jobs and then we're right back in the dumps so PLEASE!!!!! just take it slow and enjoy the ride we are about to be on again GO CANES!!!!!!

Hurriphin

Scratch Stoops. OU has his first HC gig.

Hurriphin

Personally, I think Randy's most glaring negative is being ridiculously stubborn, and that it is certainly NOT helping this team.....

But has anyone made the comparison that Carroll, Meyer, Stoops, and all the other coaches that are better than Shannon, have had previous head coaching experience?

Sarasota 'cane

Does anyone here honestly believe Swamp Donkey is a canes fan?

mr troutman

)While the future is so bright, 10-2 is still likely and I love this team, our lack of depth is what separates us from true contenders this season.

5)Dont understand the surprise. Canes teams have ALWAYS been sloppy. They just overcame it with superior talent.

6)JSQ has absolutely gorgeous blue eyes.

Posted by: pb(CSROH10) | October 25, 2009 at 10:41 AM

pb I agree with your #4 statement. I told my mom last night that is one thing that is killing us this year. If we had all the guys injured or the ones out for the season it would of made a great difference. Imagine having Ojomo, Forston, futch and even Dye out there last night. I bet Ojomo and Forston would of got some past rush WE NEEDED. Next year though we are going to be STOUT. the depth is going to look ridicoulous crazy. We should have at least 8 Dts and 8 ends that is damn near double the amount we have now. Shannon knows he has to get the horses as well as the BULLS to get us to the elite level of playing.

One thing i like about our team is that we don't need the same players to win games we have enough talent to spread the field. My point is if you took out SPILLER AND FORD Clemson would of got blown out by us. Well with us byrd or cooper can miss a game and we'll still win. Another team for instance is that if you take number 81 and rilley cooper from Florida they will loose. They can't loose out on two of their most productive guys but we can and win. So in Essense i like the way our team is forming.. " the key word is TEAM NOT A COUPLE OF INDIVIDUALS. NEXT year they will have us starting pre season in the top 5 because they know we will have at least 85 percent of our team coming back. Most important our QB and skilled postion players return.

i just want us to finish off the season blowing teams away. I think Whipple and Lovette will call more aggressive plays now. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to say We don't have enough pass rush. The announcer was saying that the whole game. That is why most teams play shot gun because they can't play under center against us.

ANYWAYS....yesterday was a tough loss , i felt just as bad as the team. SINCE COKER DAYS WITH THIS TEAM, LOOSING GAMES BECAME NORMAL. I was immune to it for awhile but under SHANNON it makes U PUKE. The mentality is there for this team ...add depth to that and we are going to destroy teams.. This year is the ONLY YEAR I MEAN THE ONLY YEAR TEAMS WILL BE ABLE TO HANG WITH US. Next year the D in the 4th will look fresh as hell..... depth will be our biggest asset we will have.

LAST NOTE

WHIPPLE KNOWS HE CAN CALL BETTER PLAYS AND WILL. When we had the ball with 5:00 left IN THE GAME why didn't he call a play action pass just like he did against OU. That would of gotten us a first down and ran a lot time out.
NOW ON THE DEFENSIVE SIDE... LOVETTE HAS TO REALIZE HE HAS DEPTH AND PASS RUSH PROBLEMS SO HE HAS TO BRING THE PRESSURE THROUGH BLITZING. LETS GO GET IT!!!!

i'm out for now....PEACE!!!!!

SEBAS

My only question is can the canes get back to ACC title game ?If so what has to happen ?

solarcane

swamp,
the thing about clegend is he gets his point across without the playground bully slant.

and as you notice your still here for awhile, aren't you?

Everyone That's a true Cane fan is upset with any loss.

Do I think the coaching sucked yesterday, hell yes.
Do I want Randy replaced hell no.

It is gonna take five years, this being the third, to be what everyone wanted the day Randy got here.
It's getting more obvious to hard core "Randy is instant fix" people that it's not gonna be last year or this year.

You make some valid points, but the shyt just to antagonize people is boring.

peace

Hurriphin

Swamp Donkey...

Dead serious.

You seem to have alot of insight on one end of the spectrum. Would love to hear it from the other end. Though you don't need to be excited, you seem to be pretty vocal about a UM LOSS to an unranked team. Why not in a possible win against one? Don't think I'm tryin' top stop you from having your own opinion. Just want to see what a new teeth-cutter has to say after a likely bounce-back win. You don't need to "Take it back to Homestead" on me either. Won't do you any good. This is ME....not Cav, not Cal, making an honest request from you.

Caneslegend

I don't care if fans don't want to see reality. Face it...

Hurriphin

Six, don't fret.

I'm sure I'll get mine's later, when that elite Phin secondary goes man up with the Saints and that weak passing attack of their's.

Swamp Donkey. You honestly can't say what a UM-UF matchup would be right now, considering that we can finally score points, and that their Off. is underperforming, against teams with no established gamebreakers. Does anyone honestly think Ark. Miss. St. or Tenn will finish with more than eight wins. UF has a great Def. and special teams as well, (ironically two liabilities that we have) but don't let your anger over take the fact that you win a football game by scoring just one more point than your opponent. Something that on any given day (wish it woulda' been yesterday) UM is capable of doing as of now.

I sincerely hope that you are around to share after the WF game, ock..........

solarcane

USAF

I'm thinking how much of that crowd noise you heard on TV was dubbed through the stadium speakers? looking at the pic above i'd say 75 %

peace

Caneslegend

Legend, bro, what do you mean overwhelmed? lol

Shannon was understandably pizzed that we didn't call aggressive plays to put the game away. How does that mean he wants to call the plays??

He feels like we could've and should've won the game. Period. It didn't happen so he's pizzed, especially because we had so many chances to put it away.

Bottom line though, is we're a young team who's best players are freshmen and sophomores. And we have a lot of injuries that have put a lot of pressure on the starters and upperclassmen.

I think our OL is really worn down after the first four games. They haven't played well since then to be honest, not even against FAMU.

But that's what we have. The coaching is fine they just need to get a little more confident and aggressive in their play calling, Lovett esp. But I'm sure he's a little conservative because he doesn't want to expose our DBs to too much pressure but you have to seize the moment, and 3rd down slant TDs are definitely not seizing the moment.

Posted by: Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer | October 25, 2009 at 01:41 PM


Listen. They way this Coaching staff uses timeouts is embarassing. Are you kidding me? Coaching had alot to do with why we lost yesterday. We had to stop Spiller? Did we 303 all purpose. Thats all we had to do was slow him down. Coaching staff failed to scheme on him. A safety or cornerback should have guarded him everytime he was in pass coverage. We should have never kicked to him. NEVER. Bad coaching. You know why UM use to be great because of coaching. Talent is good at Miami. Lacking in certain areas but good enought to win. I mean in the 80's butch davis use to be D-Line coach do you really see Clint Hurd as the next butch davis. I am not ragging on Clint but Coaching has been a major down fall for this program. If you guys can't see that. The university has gone cheap. Randy hasn't proven anything as a head coach yet. I am not saying he is bad but still hasn't proven he get the job done. If they don't win in next year does he suck or is it the young excuse I have heard forever. I guarantee we have a head coach like Urban, pete, or saban we would be top 5 team already after 3 years. Coaching is costing this team. From Development to play calling. Whipple is fine but do you think he will stay here no he will be back in the NFL. Wake up Canes fans. Coaching lost us the game yesterday.

USAFCane

was the crowd as bad as it looked?

Calvin

Lol, saying that if we played the gators this year and the game would be worse than last year is all you need to read cav to know it's no use in talking with that retard. cav, just take the old approach that wise manwho said, "never argue with fools, cause people from a distance can't tell who's who. Of course at the same time we not at a distance on this one, we can see clearly.

Way to call out another jack-hole, either it's a name change or he's unbearables twin brother.

Say what you want about mickey, but aggression iswhat you're going to get from him all game, he's going to force the qb to make a read. This year is alot like the cotton bowl year, we did lose 2 games that year as well before drubbing texas. After having kyle and kirby as your qb's when you knew all was lost after we got down by 7 points, anybody trying to criticize jacory at this juncture is ridiculous at best.

I'm proud of this team this year, more importantly though they are not satisfied as a team, to see that many guys just sit down on the field after that lost tells me all i need to know about this team, you talking about sick, you hear the answers of the defensive players, nobody cares about the plays they made, all the majority of these guys care about is whether we won or lost.

From here on out, the players will take matters into their own hands, just like randy phillips notice, he should have taken mater into his own hands on that last play, snooze you lose. The seniors on this team are grateful for the ride though, moncur must be hurt again as well, would have been good to have him out their.

While i would have thrown james or coop to the side, i'm giving berry the rock, he runs with a purpose and he finishes runs. I'd have laid however much money somebody wanted to bet that had berry gotten the ball 3 times, we would have scored a touchdwon.

Also, berry knows how to make people miss by knowing what direction to go in early. While i like us running a reverse, can we call it att he right time, that reverse to benjamin hasn't really worked all year, it got positive yards against g-tech on his speed alone. Anyway, that game is over, we played well enough to win or lose that game, we lost it this time, the defense has to go back to the drawing board.

I have to go back to on defense we have to began o dictate to the offense not the other way around. We sat back and got attacked all day, i can't recall ever seeign a game with that many delayed screens.

USAFCane

the dust has settled and I still think we way better then last year and probably ahead of what I truly expected for this year. Clemson were good and we didn't play our best game so the loss was fiar.

Load of talent on the O but still some distance to go on D IMO. ST are bad IMO.

Improve these areas and we are true contenders next year but I still expect great things this year.

The last thing I have to say is JH is going to great. He threw a pick 6 and tuned around and hit TB for that TD. The guy will make us great again.

solarcane

Why preseason rankings should come with a disclamier stating you should seek medical attention if the rankings give you an erection lasting over four games.

As the real seasons wears on things come into perspective

The Fairytale

Miami faces the toughest schedule in football and beat 3 top ranked teams out of four, they could win the ACC and contend for the NC

The reality

Miami is about the 16 to 20th best team in the country and beat a very good 11th ranked GT team.


peace


conch salad

"And you are out of your mind if you think playing Florida would be a good game. It would be a lot worse outcome than last year, I can promise you that."

You just lost all your credibility on that one bro. Florida isnt as good as they were last year and we are a much better team than we were last year. How could you possibly think this unless you are a gaytor fan?

Six

Hurriphin - it's cool, I don't mind if a Cane makes plays against the Bucs ... if it was any other player though, I'd be more pissed

Brady has thrown as many INTs this game as Josh Johnson for the Bucs has

LA

Couple of plays from yesterday?!

Spence covering Spiller on wheel route. Tiger knew Spence was limpng and hurt. That is on Spence.

Kicking deep before the half. WHY? We had mo and getting ball to start the 2nd half. What was reward or why chance it. Just get out of the half....NO ONE TOUCHED HIM! And why wasn't Sheilds(4.2) playing saftey to track him down???

JH pick six. That was great play be the Tigers CB. He came off the deep WR and came back to cut in front of AJ. Just great football and skill by the CB.

TD to win.... Doulbe cover Ford and Spiller. Make someelse beat Us. And HIT everything that moves to protect endzone. Pass interference would have been ok. Field ties us...Why didn't the LB drop back deep protect goal line. Give up first down but not TD.

Aquaman

I don't think Shannon hired Pannunzio it was Coke-r

"Joe Pannunzio is an outstanding hire for us, and we're really excited about what he brings to Miami," said UM head coach Larry Coker.

LA

WOW just WOW.....completely dumbfounded and speechless.

Look, I hate the Gators probably more than any other team EVER but honestly please please please DO NOT compare this team to a team that has won 2 out of the last 3 NC's, its not a good idea

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HAS HAS HAS.....Not the same team. Not even close! I would like to see the game and not listen to the GREAT DEBATE!

Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer

Yea your right, the CEO has nothing to do with the company. He made some awesome hiring decisions (McGriff, Young, Nix, Pannunzio).

Next year when we are mediocre again then you will change your tone. I doubt it though. You are like the parents of the little league kid who sucks but complains about how he should be playing more and yet we are the comical ones. Hahahaha ok dude

Posted by: Swamp Donkey | October 25, 2009 at 01:52 PM

>>>>

Like I said before, where was all this bullshat when we were whoopin' azz and taking names??

How do you explain those games since the CEO has nothing to do with it?? Or since the CEO is so incompetent?

Dude, like I said, pathetic and desperate. You only see what you want to see to prove your desperate point.

Year 3 of the complete rebuild and you're comparing this team to OU and USC, coaches 8-10 years deep into their programs.

Oh wait, DIDN'T WE BEAT OU??

Oh yeah. I guess you forgot about that. Any excuse to bytch and moan but you're nowhere to be found when we win. Sounds like you have a mental disorder of some sort bro. You should get that checked out.

LOL. Keep spewing the irrational nonsense. It's entertaining.

Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer

My biggest complaint with the Offense is where in the he!! is Berry. He has proven for 3 straight weeks that he is our best RB. He is the only one that can read the right hole and explode. He expects to take it to the house on every run. You can see after he gets tackled he is pissed. Coop makes nice plays but he misses so many holes. he runs like a chicken with his head cutoff.

As for the offensive playcalling, I cant complain. we moved the ball at will on them. They never really stopped us but 1 to 2 times. unfortunately these were at the end of the games. I would have called a pass on 3rd down but EVERYONES only complaining because it didnt work. Whipple doesnt have the benefit of hindsight.

As for the D, i dont know where to begin. I dont know that blitzing would have worked any better. While we say that Parker had all day he rarely threw the ball deep. Out of of 30+ attempts only probably 6-7 were more than 10 yards down field. Blitzing would have just opened more opportunities for spiller. They ran nothing but tosses,wr screens and playaction to the TE. You blitz a screen and its a TD. YOu have to respect Spiller so on the play fake it opened up the TE. This was no more evident than when Mccarthy blitzed the edge and Parker hit the TE for like 30 yards. how about someone actually cover the guy? There are holes in every Defense. Its up to the offense to find it. Their Oc called the right plays. Also, outside of Bailey and Mccarthy, who really made plays. Vernon might get up field but nothing ever happens. he got pancaked numerous times in the run game. we stopped the run up the middle well. Mrob and wesley were no factors aside being offsides. The secondary didnt realy get tested but blew coverages the few times they were. You can blame Lovett but Clemson ran some good plays that isolated Spiller.

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Jimmy, great points, although I don't think you toss aside JJ and Coop because Berry had a couple of good/great runs against UCF and FAMU. Going forward, however, that might change.

The D came down to the DL's inability to get pressure. I think Lovett could've used certain blitzs on 1st and maybe 2nd down then faked a few on 3rd. But I'm sure he was thinking along the same lines as you.

Fluzzi is just abysmal. Shannon's got a decision to make on this one.

As for Whipple, I think you have to stay aggressive esp. with play-action after good runs. To me that's the question at the end of the game, esp after Phillips INT.

But I think overall we'll come out of this game clearer and better going forward. Lovett will get a little deeper into the playbook and Whipple might too.

Sean Spence is a Beast!!!

Swamp, we are obviously good enough to win games this year, focus is the main key, every single one of the teams in the top 25 are overrated this year, none of them is overwhelmingly good, we'll get our shot at one of them if we take care of business from here on out, trust me every single teams out there are just as fragile as we are, anyone could get beat on any given saturday!

Hurriphin

And you are out of your mind if you think playing Florida would be a good game. It would be a lot worse outcome than last year, I can promise you that.

Posted by: Swamp Donkey | October 25, 2009 at 01:49 PM


No doubt, especially seeing how UF absolutely LIT IT UP vs. unranked Tenn., Ark., and Miss St.....

LA

WHEN UF plays BAMA,,,,the joke will be exposed!
I do think we would have a solid chance at beating UF becuz they do not have any deep threats.

Aquaman

excuses, keep them coming...

Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer

We lost to unranked team at HOME! Polls are out and we are #18. Big Picture-Can we or could be beat: Cinny, Boise St, Iowa, TCU, LSU, Oregon, GT(again), Penn St, OK ST, VT, Houston, or Pitt????
I know we could not beat Bama, UT, or USC.
I would like a shot at the Gators! I think we could take supermans cape and wrap it around his fullback neck!

Posted by: LA | October 25, 2009 at 01:45 PM


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#18 is about right. We could beat all those teams if we could get a complete game from our D and O. Playcalling on defense needs to be tweaked a little though. Lovett needs to call the way he called the UCF game. I think it suits our D's mindset better. The GT was a good example of that too.

Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer

I think the letdown comes from the fact that we all see the glimpses of how talented this team is and can be.

But the reality is just like Shannon has said, over and over and over in interviews..

"We have a long way to go....."

To be where we want and expect to be.

You can bet no other team will open with four games like ours again. It takes it's toll, at least it has with this team, OL-DL especially.

LA

We lost to unranked team at HOME! Polls are out and we are #18. Big Picture-Can we or could be beat: Cinny, Boise St, Iowa, TCU, LSU, Oregon, GT(again), Penn St, OK ST, VT, Houston, or Pitt????
I know we could not beat Bama, UT, or USC.
I would like a shot at the Gators! I think we could take supermans cape and wrap it around his fullback neck!

Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer

And for all the talk about Shannon's conservative defenses, Shannon blitzed when he had the personnel their who could handle it. Otherwise, with an anemic offense, he played it safe.

The 2001 and 2002 teams blitzed frequently but so did the 2005. Anyone remember the VT 2005 game??

I think Lovett will blitz more from here on out because our DL is banged up and can't bring every time.

Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer

Here is the problem. Miam said all week we are focused on special teams and we give up a dumb TD at the end of the half. Why did we kick it to them so stupid. No blitzing on a freshman. That man was comfortable all game. Randy better be careful because if he blows out Whip because of his ego then we are in trouble. We need stability in this program. Damn it Randy go back to coaching the defense. Other head coach's do play calling duties. (Urban-offense, Saban-Defense...) If he feels overwhelmed then maybe he shouldn't be a head coach. I just see the same things happening to this team over and over. We get a little success and then we lose. This team can not sustain winning moments. Ok Clemson has talent but we have to win that game. Every year I hear the same excuses. Bottom line Chicken sandwhich bowl and the gator bowl are not accomplishments for this once proud program.

Posted by: Caneslegend | October 25, 2009 at 01:00 PM


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Legend, bro, what do you mean overwhelmed? lol

Shannon was understandably pizzed that we didn't call aggressive plays to put the game away. How does that mean he wants to call the plays??

He feels like we could've and should've won the game. Period. It didn't happen so he's pizzed, especially because we had so many chances to put it away.

Bottom line though, is we're a young team who's best players are freshmen and sophomores. And we have a lot of injuries that have put a lot of pressure on the starters and upperclassmen.

I think our OL is really worn down after the first four games. They haven't played well since then to be honest, not even against FAMU.

But that's what we have. The coaching is fine they just need to get a little more confident and aggressive in their play calling, Lovett esp. But I'm sure he's a little conservative because he doesn't want to expose our DBs to too much pressure but you have to seize the moment, and 3rd down slant TDs are definitely not seizing the moment.

Sean Spence is a Beast!!!

The lost last night killed my entire week, but last time i checked we still have 5 games left in the season, 2 plus more assuming we play in the ACC championship and a bowl game, so there is still life in our Canes!

Hurriphin

Brandon Meriweather already has 2 INTs for the Patriots in the first 6 minutes of the game

One went for a TD

Posted by: Six | October 25, 2009 at 01:19 PM


HITSTICK!

Oh yeah, sorry to hear about that Six.

Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer

Swamp Donkey and West Palm, where the hell have y'all been with this dumb shyt all year long??

And if you're comparing Shannon to anyone, compare him to them in Year 3 of a complete rebuild.

Y'all are so desperate to rip Shannon that you even think he's calling the dam plays. lol

Idiotic and desperate.

Why did we lose??

Our D could not get off the field on 3rd down.

Whipple got scared in crunch time when we could've put the game away.

Penalties and other mental errors.

But of course the only thing you fools see is Shannon. It's really just comical, how desperate some people are.

Six

Brandon Meriweather already has 2 INTs for the Patriots in the first 6 minutes of the game

One went for a TD

Calvin

What i don't understand though is this, how hard is it to communicate to the kicker what type of kick to do, if we're having problems communicating to the kicker on what kick to do, that's a problem.

Next, that play basically came down to special teams coverage plain and simple, while spiller is dangerous, he's still got to be contained and kept in the middle of the field.

Caneslegend

Here is the problem. Miam said all week we are focused on special teams and we give up a dumb TD at the end of the half. Why did we kick it to them so stupid. No blitzing on a freshman. That man was comfortable all game. Randy better be careful because if he blows out Whip because of his ego then we are in trouble. We need stability in this program. Damn it Randy go back to coaching the defense. Other head coach's do play calling duties. (Urban-offense, Saban-Defense...) If he feels overwhelmed then maybe he shouldn't be a head coach. I just see the same things happening to this team over and over. We get a little success and then we lose. This team can not sustain winning moments. Ok Clemson has talent but we have to win that game. Every year I hear the same excuses. Bottom line Chicken sandwhich bowl and the gator bowl are not accomplishments for this once proud program.

jimmy

miamicane, I dont think they ran the ball down our throats. They avg like 2.5 yards per carry. Spiller is going to break some runs on you. It doesnt mean anything more than he is a GREAT player and made a nice run.

jimmy

calvin, I am not concerned about Jacory going forward. i have no doubt that he will cut down on his ints. Although He has now thrown 17 ints in 383 att. in his career That is 1 int every 22att. That has got to get better this year or we will lose another game. When you throw in his fumbling it is a MAJOR cause for concern. again he brought us back against OU but he killed the first 2 drives with bad INT's and had a big fumble that was recovered by fox. You cant always overcome those.


On a more positive note, I was a year off. i had hankerson as my legend of the fall last year but I couldnt be happier for the kid. He has turned into a dominant WR. A little dissapointed that he didnt get the ball more yesterday. Man amongst boys.

mi@mic@ne

I dont know but to me its obvious... do you put the game in the hands of JH or the running backs and the o line? We got success all nite long on JH arm and JH is the pressure guy.
One other thing... Spiller gets loose on the final regulation drive running the ball. I think that was a telling sign that we are not there yet... running it down out throats when it counts. We need more depth on the d.

Calvin

Basically, and we'll see how this coaching staff stays together, i'm sure ego's got in the way yesterday, if shannon is right, than whip let his emotions get the best of him, if shannon was wrong, was it the wrong call to play it safe.

bg1906

Q: The play calling on that last series of regulation, why didn't those runs work?

Shannon: They played good defense. Here's how football is, football 101 - it's like this, guys have to line up and block the guys in front of them. Sometimes guys physically get beat. If they physically get beat, oh well. Or people may run a stunt where a guy misses a block, they make a play. That's basically what happened. Either a guy stunted, the combo guys weren't there, or a guy just physically got beat. It was a combination of all of (that). We played sloppy football last night. It was all of it. That's what happened. I can't say this is exactly what happened 1, 2, 3. When you get in those situations, kill the clock - one time they lined up five defensive linemen in the game and we blew the call. One time that did happen. A guy didn't notice - all it takes is one guy - and when they make that mistake then somebody is going to get turned loose. I can tell you that happened.

Q: Was it the play call or the execution that was the problem on those three consecutive runs?

Shannon: I'll never say play call. You could run anything and it should work (with good execution).

Q: Did you think about putting Damien Berry in instead of Javarris James at the end of regulation?

Shannon: No. Damien or Javarris, it was all the same.

bg1906

^^^That response means it is none of our business! HAHAHAHA!^^^

bg1906

Shannon also was asked about the situation that occurred with offensive coordinator Mark Whipple at the end of the first half after Shannon called timeout.

"He was just upset because he didn't have the right personnel on the field," Shannon said. "Coach Whipple, he's emotional on the football field. We called timeout, he was upset he didn't have the right personnel on the field. The media blows it out of proportion."

Asked if Whipple was shouting at Shannon, the coach said, "No. He was upset he didn't have the right personnel on the field. That's all that was. We're just trying to get the personnel on the field, that's all."

Calvin

Sounds like why someone is not here anymore too!

Six

The Truth is MIA

I'm going to go print a million copies of his pic and put them on milk cartons .. but since I don't have a pic of him, I'll just write "The Truth" and the last time he was seen on here

Hope the people that get the milk cartons don't think it's one of those stupid anti-cigarette ads that you'd always see on television from that obnoxious company

Six

Am I wrong, or wasn't there a penalty called for too many men being on the field against Miami AFTER the timeout was called

Once again, how does that happen? Isn't a certain package called during the timeout, is yelled out to the players on the bench and in the huddle during the timeout, so everyone should know who should be on the field and off the field?

SuperCooper

Daniel Adderly on facebook.

"....yes my vols lost, we gonna be alright when I'm out there though. but there is nothing that brings joy to my heart more than seeing miami lose!"

Posted by: bg1906 | October 25, 2009 at 12:23 PM

He couldn't hack it here and got beat out by a guy who is playing football for the first time, and then he bad mouths us? Sounds like someone is mad.

Six

As for the Shannon & Whipple spat, go back and look at this very message board - if you were to not even see the game, you could tell by the Grand Canyon sized range of emotions in the posts on here during different times and be able to think in your mind what the team was doing at that time or how the game was going

Now, with that being said, this is only a message board

Imagine the ultimate jacked up feeling of being on the field as a coach, seeing the score, seeing the time left on the clock, knowing that it's almost half time, you're down and trying to move the ball down the field to score, you're 10 times more frustrated than anyone on here ... then the timeout thing happens

Of course you're going to go TNT mushroom cloud and there's going to be a hell of a lot of network cameras to catch it for the nation to see. You think you're going to cool off, 20 seconds after it happens? Hell no, there's still people on here that are pissed about the game ... so imagine being Whipple or Shannon, during that time, on the field and heading into the locker room

You're going to show every single ounce of your frustration and all the lip readers out there better get ready for some NC-17 rated content when the director of that game tells the technical director and cameraman to stay on Whipple, zoom in tight and don't leave him until he goes through that tunnel

mi@mic@ne

I got a couple of positive things to say... we have a bunch of quality lites out hitters on this team.. the d did bring the wood. I think Clemson is going to have it rough for awhile. That was a real hard hitting nite... and we will feel much better than they today..... but our pass d did not match our aggressive tackling. We had a military strategy of shooting our cannons while we were hiding behind a hill... we should have come up to the top and rushed in hand to hand combat. We were better warriors than they were... our strategy did not match our strengths... we could have speed rushed up the middle all night long and put a hurtin on their baseball pitcher. He def. had the same experience as a pitcher who throws from the mound.

Esteban

Adderly talkin stuff? oh brother.

Calvin

jimmy, i'm not concerned with jacory throwing interceptions, as long as he stays aggressive and keeps putting points on the board that's all i care about. He'll eventually cut down on his interceptions, just comes with the territory of being a young aggressive 1st year collegiate starter. If he's throwing alot of intterceptions next year, than maybe you can be concerned.

This is the one game where special teams helped to cost us the game, we can't keep giving teams feild position at the 40 yard line.

Hurriphin, even if the game next week is close at wake forest, i wouldn't be surprised, that game in my book is like the game where after Fsu lost to us, they barely beat jacksonville st.

bg1906

Daniel Adderly on facebook.

"....yes my vols lost, we gonna be alright when I'm out there though. but there is nothing that brings joy to my heart more than seeing miami lose!"

Six

Everytime I read it, I still don't really know where that person is coming from, and it happens a lot on here or sports talk radio, newspaper comments

How is recruiting being hurt by losing a game?

Seriously.

And why would you want a kid that would change his mind so quickly from week to week. Oh, the Canes lost, I'm taking them off my mythical list that I've told the Rivals/Scout writers who I drag along on a leash

Anyone remember a 5-7 record a couple of years ago? Anyone remember the kids that still came to the "U", even after that 5-7 record? How many of those kids have made some kind of impact on this team, right now. They still came, even after the kids still knowing that Patrick Nix was calling the Offense ... and who exactly did the Canes "lose out on" that year - Patchan? Lerentee McCray?

7-6 last year, even with Patrick Nix still calling the plays ... then getting fired and Bill Young leaving - a real uncertainty for the kids who were recruited and gave a verbal - but they still signed their LOI anyway, except for one primadonna who is up in Rocky Top right now

How would a team that went 3-1 through the toughest schedule in the nation, then is now 5-2, really look any worse than the 5-7 and 7-6 team ... esp. when it has a NFL caliber OCoordinator to work with you

But yet, it's really going to hurt recruiting?

The Canes get who they get, they target who they target, they go after the kids who will fit their program in their minds - that doesn't always mean the flavor of the month 10 star rated kid ... it could mean the kid who no one has really heard about, YET, or who doesn't have offers from the major football powerhouses

SuperCooper

Next week will say a lot about this team/coaching staff

The trend has been under Shannon to fold after getting off to a fast start. The team will either

1) Come out flat and unprepared once again, thus letting Wake stay in a game they have no buisness in being. And if we some how lose this game, there is a possibility of losing 4 or 5 games this year with UNC/USF still on the road.

2) Actually play a full 60 minutes and beat the living crap out of them. If they do this, then I'll feel a whole lot better.


So, which will it be?

Hurriphin

Alex D, I gotta be honest with you. I thought Jacory could've/should've run it in for the score on 3rd down in OT, rather than force that throw to either #22 or #23.

Was I alone in seeing that option available?

Hurriphin

We should've know where Spiller was at all times, for sure. But guys knew where Jordan was on most nights, and it rarely ever made a difference.......

Texascane

Actually, I enjoyed the spat between Whipple and RS. About time we get some assistant coaches with some confidence and fire in their bellies.

I figure that Randy and Whip met this morning and Whip told Randy that if he interfered with the offense again, RS would be calling the plays.

Randy has just not bought into the fact that this offense is going to score points...he still thinks that if we play aggressive defense and the other guys score 21- we lose.

RS has to understand that if you hire good people, you have to let them do their job. Whipple was right to be ticked off...it was his call, not Randy's. It turned out that Whip was right, that TO taken probably cost us points.

shwarma

Jimmy - Great post as it was intelligent fair and balanced

Alex D

What’s up Legion, haven’t posted in a while. It was a tough loss last night, the Offense got a little too conservative after the Randy Phillips pick and after the 20 yard run by Graig Cooper in overtime. The Defense was simply not aggressive enough. On another note, here is where I believe the departure of those two backup QB’s hurt Jacory. Jacory is not a threat to pull the ball down and run like he did few times last year for fear of getting injured. Maybe it’s me, but has he had a rush for more than 5 yards this year scrabbling out of the pocket? Just my thought, have a great Sunday.

Esteban

gotta agree more than disagree (a lot more) with Jimmy on yesterday.

Hurriphin

.( Speaking of that, how can Bosher nail 51 yard fgs with room to spare but cant kick it 60 yards off of a tee)

-jimmy

I liked that one....

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