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December 01, 2009

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DZ8

1st!

NativeCane

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DZ8

Going to lunch now after eading the article. Good job 86!

CGNC

4th?

CaneSawMassacre

Selmon's is nice, a lot of better food places to eat at in Tampa but for the location and prices prob. not a better place to eat before a game.

Canez1

College Football is GOD's Sport.

Bill King says so. It's gotta be true!

GO CANEZ!!!!!

Daytoncane

Why with Urban Meyer lying to recruits, the University president leaving the scene of an accident and 31 players in trouble with the law during Meyer's tenure would any parent want their kid to go to play for the Gators? What a great bunch of role models by the leadership at UF. It takes a young player(Tebow) to lead the way?

It will be interesting to see what Meyer does with the Dunlap issue.

Posted by: RandyCane | December 01, 2009 at 12:34 PM

i think you might be implying that these parents care about issues like this. you know why they send their kids there? because winning cures everything.

the parent aren't concerned about all the behaviorial issues, they only care about their son someday playing in the NFL. no matter how you look at it, they're looking for their meal ticket.

as long as the media doesn't care, parents and recruits won't care either.

canesteeler

CGNC, the package is at the post office. My girlfriend is picking it up today! Thanks! I have always like Bobby Bowden but I also feel it is time for him to move aside. If coaching legends like Don Shula and Chuck Noll were given pink sheets any other coach should and will receive one also when their product suffers. My take is although BB has done a great deal for the FSU program he is being selfish if he thinks it is not time to step aside. The very same big azz ego that makes a coach a successful is also the same tool which makes him think he is bigger than any program or school! Enjoy your legacy and now step back and enjoy the rest of your life. By the way I sure as hell won't have millions in the bank when my azz is sent out the door or fired. Therefore both BB and fat boy at ND have much to look forward to even if they never worked or coached another game! RS, I hope you and the coaches are locking down the recruits!

CGNC

canesteeler - U are welcome - both of yu enjoy it - LOL.

CGNC

Some guy out for money no doubt.....

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/423/story/1083381.html

KLCaneFan

cgnc that's what it sounded like to me...

Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer

But one day the US will catch up with the rest of the world.

Football came from the quintessential sport. As a matter of fact, so did soccer.

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DANGER! Will Robinson...DANGER!

Posted by: DZ8 | November 30, 2009 at 05:42 PM

I tried...

>>>>>>

Loco, did you really say that shyt? You must be having a series of retarded moments.

Unless you're talking about us coming to DOMINATE soccer, you're smoking some crazy shyt.

The ONLY reason you're in America is because THE REST OF THE WORLD has been trying to catch up for the last 100 years. The ONLY reason you're doing what you;re doing now i because of what we do and create as a nation. You sound like some delusional German or Brit.

Haha, yeah, keep smoking that retarded weed. We haven't even scratched the surface of what we're going to do. And it's going to happen whether you're here or not, whether you like it or not, and whether you and all these other delusional fools can handle it or not.

And while you;re at it, show me a Rugby playbook that looks like Whipple's or Bill Walsh's.

Then show me a 14 year old who can waltz into the NFL and be a star like that Ghanaian kid did in the MLS or whatever the professional soccer league is called.


Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer

Loco, first of all YOU SAID SOCCER WAS THE GREATEST SPORT. Now you're changing your tune. Suddenly you're the ambassador for rugby.

Football as around way before Teddy. And the reason it spread is because it's American. If fit OUR national character and essence. If you like rugby so much you take your azz to Ireland or Australia.

Like I said, Rugby's a fine sport but it's nowhere near as complex or dangerous as football has become, as you yourself admitted in the past, because of the pads and helmets.

Did I say there was no skill in rugby? No.

But ask Mark Sanchez or Ken Dorsey about the difference in the complexity of football just between CFB and NFL. Or ask Arthur Brown about the difference between KS and Miami.

As far as one football player suddenly deciding to play rugby and failing, what does that say about YOU not being able to play football at the highest levels? Does that somehow make football greater just because you couldn't play it. A lot of football players couldn't play rugby, esp. OL and DL, QBs and many WRs and DBs. At the same time a lot of RBs, SS and LBs would make incredible rugby players.

So get off this dumb shyt. You've found a new sport that you like. GOOD FOR YOU.

Bottom line, if Rugby were so great why don't billions of people tune in to watch ONE RUGBY MATCH in countries who don't even know wtf rugby is.

You've dodged every point I've made so take this silly shyt somewhere else.

Posted by: Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer | December 01, 2009 at 12:44 PM

Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer

And did you seriously say something about class and the lack of it being a reason why you like rugby more than football??

Man, get that candy-shyt out of here. If you want class, pick up a friggin tennis racquet, a sport where you APOLOGIZE if you win a point because the net helps you or the ball comes off your frame....a sport where you HAVE TO WIN BY TWO.....a sport where when you're just practicing you APOLOGIZE if you give your hitting partner a bad ball.

Take that shyt elsewhere....please (since you like that corn-ball British politeness BS.)

Posted by: Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer | December 01, 2009 at 12:55 PM

CaneSawMassacre

I got to agree with CAV here, soccer does have benefits.

I believe it is extremely beneficial for youngs kids,

as...
1. It doesn't put as much wear and tear on your body growing up (As much as I loved playing football since the age of 7, playing for that long doesn't really give you a competitive edge when you get to high school and are trying to get a scholarship. Athletic ability starts to rise to the cream of the crop here)
2. If you perfect skills with soccer and tennis as a younger kid you are quicker at learning hand,eye, and foot coordination which allows you to be better at other sports, i.e. football, basketball, and baseball with perfected craft.
3. It increases endurance exponentially if done correctly and increases metabolism.


With that said football >>>>>>>>> soccer...

That is MHO and I don't care what anybody says and I like soccer.

canesteeler

If you want to put my ass to sleep turn on a soccer game!

CaneSawMassacre

I agree with CAV about the majuration process and football being extremely more advanced both mentally and physically for the reasons he provided but ..

that there are benifits of getting your child involved in soccer and/or tennis first for the reasons I listeda above.

16 grams

86, check your email

thx

JSQ

Anyone going to the Pro Bowl, aka, the Pro 'Canes annual reunion?

CaneSawMassacre

I used to feel the same way canesteeler but I enjoy it more now, maybe after playing it some or understanding it better.

I can't explain it, I always hated it until I watched the USA vs Brasil match at the Federation Cup or watching USA vs Mexico in Mexico City (Sick bastards throw urine bags fromt he stands)

CaneSawMassacre

JSQ not going to the probowl but going to make it to the bowl game..

If it is in Orlando or Jacksonvile you and the crew brining the Cane Wagon?

CaneRock

Going back to this ESPN documentary, I wonder how much of it ESPN edited to give it the impression that Miami was just an "inmates running the asylum" type of institution. I mean yeah, Miami players used to cut up on the field, but during the HS and JJ eras, I never really heard of too many off the field issues with the Miami players, at least not publicly. Now if you think about it, most of the off the field stuff came at the tail ends of the Erickson and Coker eras, but like I said, I doubt that ESPN reflects that...

16 grams

did i miss the espn UM doc???? please say no..

16 grams

soccer is cross country with a ball... IMO

JSQ

JSQ not going to the probowl but going to make it to the bowl game..

If it is in Orlando or Jacksonvile you and the crew brining the Cane Wagon?

Posted by: CaneSawMassacre | December 01, 2009 at 02:17 PM

I'll be at either bowl, most likely with my mom, and at least a few people from my crew.

Will likely be at the Pro Bowl as well.

JSQ

did i miss the espn UM doc???? please say no..

Posted by: 16 grams | December 01, 2009 at 02:20 PM

Premier is 12/12 at 9pm on ESPN after Teblow loses the Heisman

moneycane

did i miss the espn UM doc???? please say no..

Posted by: 16 grams | December 01, 2009 at 02:20 PM

I saw a commercial that said it airs Dec. 12th

JSQ

Going back to this ESPN documentary, I wonder how much of it ESPN edited to give it the impression that Miami was just an "inmates running the asylum" type of institution. I mean yeah, Miami players used to cut up on the field, but during the HS and JJ eras, I never really heard of too many off the field issues with the Miami players, at least not publicly. Now if you think about it, most of the off the field stuff came at the tail ends of the Erickson and Coker eras, but like I said, I doubt that ESPN reflects that...

Posted by: CaneRock | December 01, 2009 at 02:17 PM

ESPN is not doing the doc, an alum from my graduation class (Billy Corben, '03) is. The impression I get is that the individuals doing the docs have primary control over the content.

True Cane aka Canian

soccer is the second best sports in the world

JSQ

CSM, how was Italy and the honeymoon?

moneycane

I have respect for Bobby Bowden and all, but I'll be damn if his .500 team deserves to take a decent bowl game from my Hurricanes. You want you're last game to be in Florida then you shoulda coached em up a lil more and U woulda had ur shot at the OB, Gator, or Champs after earning the right to play in those bowls

CGNC

If you want to put my ass to sleep turn on a soccer game!

Posted by: canesteeler | December 01, 2009 at 02:04 PM

LOL!!!! U and I both know that hockey totally rocks :-D

CaneSawMassacre

Italy was awesome.... I can't really say anything negative other then flight/travel being long, and the fact that EVERYBODY chokes down cigarettes like they can't breath without them...

ooooo and very expensive but, it is a vacation!

Lots and lots of pictures, if people want to see some maybe I'll post them later if Sir Tom allows it (Don't want to almost get banned again)

Just kidding!

Probowl huh? Lucky you, how did you work that out? Got some sort of plan? Or wanted to vacation in Hawaai and decided probowl time with football was perfect?

CaneSawMassacre

That is what makes me laugh about some people...

Too me aside from the hitting and occasional fight on ice, Soccer and Hockey are essentially identical!!!!!!

Too funny!

JSQ

I have respect for Bobby Bowden and all, but I'll be damn if his .500 team deserves to take a decent bowl game from my Hurricanes. You want you're last game to be in Florida then you shoulda coached em up a lil more and U woulda had ur shot at the OB, Gator, or Champs after earning the right to play in those bowls

Posted by: moneycane | December 01, 2009 at 02:26 PM

I agree 100%

JSQ

Not sure what happened to my previous post -

CSM, the Pro Bowl is home at the Shark this year!!! I've always wanted to go so I think I need to take advantage of it being in my back yard!

CaneSawMassacre

And as much as I love football..

I hate what the probowl has become, don't watch it for that long on TV anymore. Now I'm sure if I was in Hawaai for a week and attending the game it might be a different spirit.

Just watching a football without intensity and passion is like watching an all clothed stripper pole dance.. Nobody cares!

16 grams

ya, i went to school with billy corben younger brother, who i have to say was a pretty good high-school receiver.. a lil inside info his real name is billy cohen.. U know stage name

shwarma

CSM - To answer your recruiting questions the TE is Christian Thomas. Would be a very nice get at TE and though his interest seems to be West Coast, TE is a position where depth provides us extra incentive for recruits. This is a kid the coaches should be all over shoudl the other things check out (I have not watched his video, but any comparison to a slightly slower Orson Charles is good enough for me, plus the kid can run block already)

THe OL is Arie K from Maryland. We were recruiting him earlier in the year and he is boys with Ego. If the staff thinks the Jax boys will jump ship (ND and grades being the issues respectively) I can see the coaches making a major push. (And I think I rather have those two than the JAX boys though Glenn and his true U attitude would be missed.

16 grams

Posted by: CaneSawMassacre----

Italy is my Home,, well my grandfathers...

Fano italy north of Rome,, you go near there..

whats a shame I've never been to the old country.. some day

JSQ

ya, i went to school with billy corben younger brother, who i have to say was a pretty good high-school receiver.. a lil inside info his real name is billy cohen.. U know stage name

Posted by: 16 grams | December 01, 2009 at 02:34 PM

Maybe this is why I have no recollection of the kid - not like UM is a big school or something! Perhaps I should pull out the yearbook when I get home.

CaneSawMassacre

That area is where my old Basilin family is from. (My great-grandmother's side - still have distant relatives there)

Then my great-grandfather came from Sicily.

I'm Italian as well, LOL well.. Don't go over that and say that.. If you don't speak Italian they will quickly call you Americano.Which is true, I just don't look at myself that way.

But to answer your question no, I was suppose to head that way b/c of family but it fell through. I was in Venice, then Northeast, Italy around Udine (Where I saw Italy vs South Africa rugby test match in person -think 50 yard line seats in Euroe. Crazy crowds. I hate to say b/c I love football way better, but fans over there are way more passionate and into games then we are in America. Makes for a great atmosphere)

CaneSawMassacre

Would you guys rather play in the Chick Fila bowl to stomp up on an SEC team for bragging rights or end up a new year bowl against a team like WVU?

I wish we had a chance for LSU but that doesn't look likely... GOD I would love to pay them back with a b*tch slap in the ATL..

16 grams

i'm in in the process of learning Italian.. rosseta stone is the bomb...
i figure learning italian will only help me speak better spanish.lool. you now since i live in miami..

I can't wait to make the trip overseas... i hear stories about europe in general about the crazy fans.. Can they actually be crazier than the load drunks at games in the states??

CaneSawMassacre

Gator Bowl (Big East #2/Notre Dame vs. ACC #3): Cincinnati vs. Miami

Here is another prediction from another site...

I would love that game, I think we match up well with them and it would provide a great springboard for recruiting and nice preseason ranking for 2010..


Not sure if it will happen though and not sure that the bowl committee loves that either. By the way I'll be p*ssed if FSU gets a new years bowl. That would be a huge slap in the face, and time for the Gubernment to get involved in the bowl selection process. Its already crazy enough, don't need to see that.

JSQ

Okay, we got tickets to the Pro Bowl - best available was Sec. 444 at The Shark.

I can't wait to see all my favorite pro 'Canes all in one spot! They even have an open practice the day before! I'm so excited!!!!!!!

MaryLouAlumni

Is it just me or don't you think that the football season was way too fast. Maybe it's because we were all so anxious for it to begin and now it's over (except for the bowl games). Wish we could do over the 3 we lost, especially VT. Anyway, I'm sad that the season is over, just when we all got used to watching them in high definition!!
Next year I hope I'm well enough to go to the Ohio and Pittsburgh game. I think I spelled Pit wrong.
Merry Christmas to everyone.

16 grams

Marylou.. this season went by way to fast.. it seems like we just played clemson... but know we have to wate till Jan? to see our Canes plays again....
:(

Loco

Posted by: Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer | December 01, 2009 at 02:02 PM

Oh Cav, when you're wrong you're wrong. Except about football being around before Teddy, in that you are right and I concede that I was mistaken.

FIRST of all I NEVER said soccer was the best. go back and read the posts. You assumed. Everybody else knew EXACTLY what I was talking about.

Second, the US will NEVER dominate soccer. It will be lucky to pass hockey in popularity. No commercials = very little air time.

Third, I have not avoided ANY of your points. I've responded to all that have merit to the discussion.

Fourth, I'm an American and I'm proud of it, nothing I said was against America. Everything has been in the context of the sporting world, which, like all things, is ruled by money.

That being said, THE ONLY REASON I'M IN AMERICA has nothing to do with America itself, besides the fact that it was a haven from the Russian Revolution for one set of grandparents and the Nazis for another.

And while I'm at it, I can show you a 13 page document that was my FRU all-star plays and game theory. That document mind you was for a ONE DAY, TWO MATCH tournament that involved TWO WHOLE PRACTICE DAYS prior. Not only does rugby have just as many plays as football, it has just as many (if not more) VARIATIONS on those plays (i.e. QB can throw to multiple receivers). Not to mention more players are potentially involved.

And that's fine, I'm not arguing about soccer. You can't take a 17 or 18 year old and throw them in an professional rugby match either, even though he's been playing just as long or longer than most football players.

Rugby is just as dangerous as football, but in different ways. In part because of the lack of protection. There are less injuries overall, but more chances of more serious injuries like concussion and death.

And rugby is JUST AS complex as football, if not more, because EVERY PLAYER is an option on EVERY play, you can run, pass, or kick. The complexity from collegiate to collegiate all-stars is big, in Europe there are more levels and the complexity is greater. Which is why the US sucks at rugby comparatively.

Dhani Jones has nothing to do with me. I cant play rugby at its highest levels either. My size and speed restricts me from both sports. But you should do your research first, ANY football player could play rugby if they trained properly, except for quarterbacks with no speed. And kickers with the same problem. Santana Moss, Devin Hester, Andre Johnson, Matt BN osher, Brett Romberg, would all make GREAT rugby players.

And btw, ALMOST EVERY COUNTRY KNOWS ABOUT RUGBY, which is why it couldn't be watched in countries that don't. But the 6 nations final was almost as big as the superbowl.

And class has nothing to do with apologizing. Its the difference between kicking each other's a**es on the field, but being gentlemen off it. I'm not saying all football players aren't, but most aren't. Rugby players social WITJH EACH OTHER after matches, to meet and get along with your player. off the field. No trash talk, no show boating. Everything left on the field.

DallasTX Cane

CSM, Sorry I don't have a Canesport subscription.

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