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March 15, 2010

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delandcane

firecoachshannon.com i think this website says how miami truly feels. we need a winner, not someone who will take 10 years to learn how to treat people, and or coach a team to a CONSISTENT winnning level.

Cat 5 Cane

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DZ8

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CGNC

Canes

Caneslegend

ANYONE WHO THINKS DONNA IS BAD FOR UM just does not have a clue. I have a daughter in school in Miami and the school is a much better place with Donna there. She loves the school, loves athletics. She is definitely more academic oriented but being a school president carries more burdens than just the football team. Sorry guys your blame is in the wrong place there.

Posted by: canechic | March 17, 2010 at 07:23 AM

In regards to the football program she has put a lot of walls for Randy to improve the team. Those walls did not exist in the 80's and 90's. Lets be specific she is not behind the football program. Pay shannon the money. A good football team brings in revenue to build those classrooms. It works hand in hand. Academically it is a great school. Lets be honest UM was not put on the map for academics. Football.

usagainstheworld

wait don't go!

SOUP

NEW BLOG IS UP!

solarcane

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404Canes404

Canesville, can't wait to go back when we are locked and loaded!

USAFCane

Can ESPN every go a day without telling the world about useless crap from either Tiger, PEDbow or Favre?

When was it that ESPN became more tabloid news then sports news?

Posted by: Sebastian(2001U G.O.A.T.) | March 17, 2010 at


PEDbow, that's pretty funny.

solarcane

sebas
I'm with ya, I made a similar observation about that same thing.

ESPN went from a real good idea to not very funny people trying to be funny, then they re skinned as the Sports National Enquirer

Tiger saved their ass from the dead zone between Too Much Madness and MLB.

Daytoncane

the E in ESPN stands for entertainment, not news.

that's what they're on tv for.

Sebastian(2001U G.O.A.T.)

Can ESPN every go a day without telling the world about useless crap from either Tiger, PEDbow or Favre?

When was it that ESPN became more tabloid news then sports news?

bg1906

Solar.

Good to be back.

solarcane

hi bg we missed you big man

Sebastian(2001U G.O.A.T.)

Damn Dayton
We think alike

Thats who I took. Murray State is a very good team. Vandy is not athletic enough to keep up with them for 40 minutes

bg1906

Sebas.

Thanks bro.

bg1906

Dayton.

I'm good, just had to break for a bit. Good to be back in the place. Thanks for asking.

Daytoncane

Sebas i picked Murray State over Vandy.

they beat out my alma mater, Morehead State, to get a at large bid to the tourney. i think their guards can really give Vandy some trouble.

Daytoncane

bg is back.

hows life been treating you bro?

Sebastian(2001U G.O.A.T.)

Welcome back bg

solarcane

hi peebster, good to see you
everything good?

bg1906

What it do Legion.

Ya boy is back in the Hezee!

Sebastian(2001U G.O.A.T.)

And the biggest upset in the 1st round will be????

pb(CSROH10)

What up Solar.

pb(CSROH10)

Donna Shalala is definitely more academic oriented but being a school president carries more burdens than just the football team. Sorry guys your blame is in the wrong place there.

Posted by: canechic | March 17, 2010 at 07:23 AM


Anyone who thinks otherwise is a dummy.

solarcane

perception^^
those two words always screw with me like there and their

solarcane

I'm with canechic

Randy, Kirby and Donna have lifted a deteriorating college image and have the entire perspective of The U headed in the best possible direction.

Has anyone on here gone to their boss and said, " Ask my friends that don't work here if I deserve a raise" ?

I'm not concerned what anybody thinks Randy should or shouldn't get.

Randy can't get a better gig

The University isn't going to pay a top 5 coaches salary to bring anyone else here.

Randy will stay regardless if he makes a million a year or barely scrapes by on his $900,000

SOUP

And bUbba's, that is an absolute MUST in the Grand Disco Ballroom DANCE! lmao

Posted by: macjones de Albuquerque | March 17, 2010 at 04:48 PM

SWEET!

SOUP

GET IT DONE ALREADY!!! C'MON MIAMI!!!!

Posted by: 404Canes404 | March 15, 2010 at 07:24 PM

I AGREE 100%!

macjones de Albuquerque

U'all looking for a little CHARITY! lol

Well then, select Georgetown, Kansas St., Kentucky and Villanova as your Final 4 selections. Because they be MORTAL LOCKS baby!

By the way, the first major upset by a DOUBLE-DIGIT squad will absolutely be Montana- No not Joey- over that New Mexico Wolf squad.

For instance, the Wolf's ain't got nobody on the team whom has N.C.A.A. GAME EXPERIENCE! And bUbba's, that is an absolute MUST in the Grand Disco Ballroom DANCE! lmao

SOUP

Haters and trolls on InsidetheU and Sentinel and Post and Herald that WISH their school had a blog as good as Canespace.

Well done, 86 Cane!

Posted by: Ungar | March 17, 2010 at 11:44 AM

Thank U sir! It has been almost three years of hard work and dedication. There are those haters out there who would try and tear it down, but the foundation is STRONG.

WE GOT THIS!

SOUP

Donna Shalala is definitely more academic oriented but being a school president carries more burdens than just the football team. Sorry guys your blame is in the wrong place there.

Posted by: canechic | March 17, 2010 at 07:23 AM

I agree 100%.

SOUP

I am on my way to G-ville this morning. Maybe I'll storm the field and take out a few players.

Posted by: raizecane | March 17, 2010 at 08:42 AM

We gotcha bail money!

SOUP

POLL UPDATE: 340 votes

47% for the 3 year package.

24% for the 5 year deal.

18% for the 2 year extension

mr troutman

Due to the economic situation no one else at UM is getting a raise. All construction is halted, including campus housing and much needed new classrooms. So, why should Coach Shannon get a contract extension AND a FAT raise.

What has he really done to deserve it?

WHERE'S THE ACCOUNTABILITY?

Posted by: nemo2002 | March 15, 2010 at 06:56 PM

Fans like this needs to loose his Cane Fan title.. What has Shannon done since he been here...For one he got us out of the Shi$$$$er that C'ker left us stuck in. Some people say some of the dumbest things talking out there mouth.

mr troutman

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Mephistopheles

First, I have no argument with Aston Martin. I prefer the DBS in Casino Royale with the suede interior, but there is no dog in that fleet.

Second, its always been my understanding that Miami coaches were expected to win it all, so yes, it matters. I'm not displeased with Shannon at all, but I'm not ready to crown him "The Answer" for this program. Not ruling it out, but I need to see more. Just my opinion.

Third, my point with Turtle is that Morris' stated reason for releasing him was that he was going after the top players who would sometimes get drafted and never show. Just like Coach K at Duke doesn't take one and done's. As a result, maybe we miss out on some of the difference makers that we used to get. For example, we haven't had a truly dominant starting pitcher since Santos. And Morris' #'s for the first half of his tenure are considerably better than the second half. Just a thought.

aqua

Posted by: Six | March 17, 2010 at 02:17 PM

Exactly, Six.

2008 was great that we finally won an ACC title, in anything. But being the #1 team and throwing away the first game like they did was an epic fail. Fresno St. has our ring.

This is just my opinion but I think Morris is guilty of over-using the bullpen, that by the time we get to the dance, they're done.

Just an example, I watched Bellamy two years ago start the season throwing 88-89mph, by the time we got to the regionals he was topping out at 83mph.

DZ8

Randy Shannon will be the first one to say that YES, he is a failure if he doesn't win NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS at Miami.

He might be wrong but I agree with him. That's Miami, right or wrong.

Six

Meph - Turtle Thomas resume is impressive no doubt, and he obviously is highly thought of in the college baseball world to also have stops at LSU and Arizona State

We'll see how he does at FIU when he's finally the head coach

When you get to go to 2 traditional power house baseball schools like LSU and Arizona State, it's a hell of a lot easier to recruit and have kids banging down your door to play

I'm not saying he's not a good recruiter or evaluator of talent - I'm just saying it's also easy to do your job at those schools, as opposed to being somewhere like Mercer or North Florida

I still think Miami pulls in some major talent, look at the past drafts from '99 to present. Their 2 front line starters, Erickson and Hernandez are pretty damn good - I dunno how well Erickson will do though now. But I think the drafts have hurt them with that talent. You see their starting 9 out there, how young they are. You see the youth in the pen as well. They brought in some JUCO or transfers just to add some elder statesmen to the field

Last year's team just pissed me off, the way they played and handled themselves. Then later, you saw how it came out that the players felt it wasn't a true team, that too many players were selfish in the aspect of just getting theirs

I also think we're somewhat spoiled of how good the Canes baseball team really has been, but the reason we are is b/c of what Morris has done. Omaha is the Canes 2nd home - we all know that and expect it, b/c it's realistic and has proven to be realistic by the way Morris has taken them there

Alright, I really do have to get to work now

Cat 5 Cane

Meph...But what if things don't work out and he's got a six year deal?

So what's so bad with a 6 year deal with randy at the helm?...By now, we know what Randy has to offer... but what does " if things don't work out" mean?...
Do you mean, that we didn't win a ship? Is winning a Championship your only way to grade him? but what if he is winning the ACC and getting a big bowl or if he is challanges for ACC every year like VT, with 9/3, 10/2, 11/1 records. Does that mean he is a failure?... and to pull him?

Come on guys, come on down to earth. Not winning a championship is not the end of the world... Yes, we'll win one but maybe not in two years, maybe not for another four years... but we will win another one under randy... it's a matter of time and good fortune... Remember there is always that luck factor that must accompany winning the NC... Just like Alabama had several times last year to win it all!

Six

Meph - I like the Aston Martin V12 Vantage

http://autostrada.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/vantagev12_sideangle.jpg


Mephistopheles

Six, I think this team has never been the same since the Turtle was chased away. Dude brought in primo talent.

I kind of feel like UM baseball has taken a path similar to Duke basketball. Once elite, with elite players-now just real good with the occasional elite player.

What do you think?

Six

For all the XX chromosome canespacers -

Happy St.Patty's Day, here's a treat for ya

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/170/469943837_e86e8b4607.jpg


Six

Aqua - I hear ya man, I have higher expectations for Canes baseball than Canes football to tell you the truth ... simply b/c of Coach Morris and the success he's had

2008 was a good year for Canes baseball in a sense but also a bad one as well

Football I can temper since 2001 and seeing it deteriorate right in front of my eyes with the former coach before Shannon in there. I didn't like it, I hated it, but I understood it and understand the re-growing of it

Baseball on the other hand - it's harder for me to accept not doing better. Although, losing a lot of talent to the draft does hurt a minimum of 2 years down the road.

Daytoncane

hard times for the U.

it'll all get better in time.

DZ8

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Cat 5 Cane

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Six

Ungar - ya, I kinda felt you guys got the message that the Canes are really no good at coming back when they're trailing esp. from the 4th inning on

Hitting has to pick up, and stop getting freakin picked off when you do work the count to get on base, like Frankie Ratcliff did last night. Kid, you did your job as the lead-off, worked a 3-2 count and got on base ... why waste the effort by getting picked off?

And Pendergrast, the pitcher for Fordham that did it, is a righty. That makes it even more frustrating to me - you look at the back right foot on the mound. If he starts to lift his heel, get your ass back to the base ... if he doesn't lift it, you know he's going to pitch home - he HAS to pitch home

I will admit, I did not see the game. So, I don't know if Frankie got caught leaning b/c he was trying to be aggressive, or if he went on first move and got picked or what .. but I still hate a guy getting picked off by a right handed pitcher

You know the youth of the Canes when their middle infield are both Frosh and their 3Basemen is a Soph. Not to mention, 2 of the 3 outfielders are Frosh

Hitting absolutely has to pick up

Aquaman

We haven't made it out of a regional in 2 of the last 3 years. Anyone can make it to a regional. Actually winning it says you're in the top 16 that year.

That isn't asking much considering 2nd place trophys are doorstops at UM...

Mephistopheles

Six,

I guess your talking the 007 model. That one's got the hardware in the hidden glove box door that will stop anyone-scorned or otherwise. But it still doesn't have the launch of the Prancing Pony.

Its still too early to draw many conclusions, but I do like what I'm seeing with the late inning pen. I thought Bellamy would be the toughest loss to replace from last year. He may still be, but so far we've got 4-5 pretty good arms coming to the rescue.

The offense is young and should improve as the season goes on. Overall the pitching has been good for college standards even with the sloppy fielding. We'll know more after a few series with the ACC big boys.

Ungar

9th 0-5 (hee hee)

so Six, that is Six innings are 0-5 when trailing.

Where are those Yonder and DiNatale comeback homeruns?

Oh well, hopefully the hitting picks up, because the pitching has been good to great so far....

Six

Meph - if I'm being chased by a woman scorned, then I want my Aston Martin to have 3 Wood or Driver protected windshields

By I still want that V-12 so I can get the hell out of there in a hurry, while she takes batting practice on my ride, swingin like a crazed viking woman


Ecinosa and Whaley came in and were lights out yesterday against Fordham ... the hitting though and getting runners in was pathetic

It also doesn't help when you get picked off at 1st base - Frankie Ratcliff and Nathan Melendres

I do like seeing Stephen Perez stealing 3rd base. I also like seeing the opposing pitcher balking - the guy is distracted.

Guys who struck out, at least work the count to 3-2 and go down swinging ... unless you really feel a ball was outside of the zone and Coach Morris agrees ... none of this striking out crap on a 1-2 count or 0-2 count (which didn't happen)

Sending Frosh Jerad Grundy out to the mound tonight for his first start this season.

Canes have a losing record overall if they're trailing after the 1st - 8th inning

That's not good. Not good at all.

W-L when trailing after:

1st 1-1
2nd 0-3
3rd 1-3
4th 0-5
5th 0-5
6th 0-5
7th 0-5
8th 0-5

Ungar

Baseball is a bit different in that you can have losses to much worse teams every year. the 2001 team had 12 losses, the 2008 team lost to FAU I believe.

Heck, it was a bad loss, I am not deying that. A 1 run loss to a team that we should have beaten by 5 or more. But when the Nationals beat the Yankees last year, it didn't mean the end of the Yankees' season.

Ungar

sub-par?

Au contraire, in my opinion! Still going to regionals and College World Series games, ranked consistently in the Top 25, I wish our football and basketball teams would be equally sub-par.....

Sarasota 'cane

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canezilla

maybe its just me but we shouldnt lose to these guys anytime of the year.im not trying to start any fights im just saying horrible loss.should never happen at home aganist that team

bahamacane

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Aquaman

Outside of the 2008 baseball team, UM baseball has been sub-par for years.

Daytoncane

Do you think Kirby's inventing the wheel with this stuff?? It's already been done, rehearsed and re-rehearsed thousands of times.

That stuff is NOT why Kirby was picked to be AD. Paul Dee was a LAWYER with no experience in the above areas. How did he do it if it was so dam difficult?

Posted by: Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer | March 17, 2010 at 11:43 AM

so being a good HC at Miami hasn't been rehearsed and re-rehearsed before?

who does Randy go to advice often? that's right, one of our greatest coaches of all time. stop acting like Randy is the first one to ever do it.

if you don't think an ADs job is difficult, then that's ok. how can you judge if you've never experienced it? i've never said once that being a HC wasn't difficult.

and i thought the Truth said coaching was overrated? lol

Ungar

Canespace is a must read for some unlikely folks, jealous fans of other teams! I see comments here quoted in other blogs, by Gator and Nole fans that won't accept that Miami is better than Gainesville across the board.

Haters and trolls on InsidetheU and Sentinel and Post and Herald that WISH their school had a blog as good as Canespace.

Well done, 86 Cane!

Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer

Cav,

i don't think you quite know the total responsibility of an AD.

you're saying a coach in one sport is more important than an AD managing every sport at a univeristy?

not so.

Posted by: Daytoncane | March 16, 2010 at 02:04 PM

Randy ain't responsible for organizing a budget every year for football, baseball & softball, basketball, track & field, tennis, volleyball, etc.

is he responsible for travel methods & expenses? how about insurance costs?

how about security at every sporting event?

does a coach develop an evacuation plan in case of emergency? who organizes the maintenance crew?

does a coach decide who the medical staff will be?

how about matters concerning academic honesty in every sport?

is the coach present at every press conference and at every meeting about the athletic program as a whole?

if you can't tell by now, i was a Sport Management major.

Posted by: Daytoncane | March 16, 2010 at 02:26 PM

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Dude, I just re-read this. If you seriously think this sort of micro-managing is something difficult then I know for a fact you've never led a group of 85 17-20 year-olds, or actually been responsible for any large number of individuals directly under your charge, even as a teacher.

If you'd even coached pee-wee t-ball you'd know what Shannon's dealing with.

Do you think Kirby's inventing the wheel with this stuff?? It's already been done, rehearsed and re-rehearsed thousands of times.

That stuff is NOT why Kirby was picked to be AD. Paul Dee was a LAWYER with no experience in the above areas. How did he do it if it was so dam difficult?

carolina cane

Give Randy 3 years at this time. Canes have shown gradual improvement in his 3 years but there needs to be better recruiting on the D-Line, O-line and a stud Q.B.I know we brought in a bunch of O-line prospects but I'd like to see some big time studs and less of the Phipo types.

Mephistopheles

That's Paul Dee's poor health. Sorry about that Chief.

Mephistopheles

Now that we're in the ACC, college baseball is like basketball. Just get to the tournament with a decent seed so you can at least host a regional. (That basically means top 16 or so) If you peak at the end of the year you can make a run. Don't get too worried about the Canes just yet.

Re Shannon, 2011 is the key year to all of this. I think he should have a chance to coach that team. But what if things don't work out and he's got a six year deal? I'm telling you guys, this is not an easy decision for the admin. And Shalala is good for the school-she's not to blame for anything. Paul Dee poor health led to chaos and bad decisions.

Our 2001 team was straight as an arrow and was for my money the most complete and talented team we've ever had. You need coaching and players-BOTH. Not thugs. I really like our team and staff right now. I even like Kirby so far. But it will take money to keep it all together.

As for the Aston Martin, it weighs too much. Its an awesome ride, but if you're being chased by a woman scorned, you want the 430 Modena-Trust me.

Fighting Ibis

Randy isn't going anywhere. All this contract garbage is just that, garbage. Leave it up to fans to worry about problems where there are no problems.

Man times are slow!

Cat 5 Cane


Randy... To the board... If you believe in him, then give him 5 more years. If you don't, then wait until he decides to leave... Yeah, that makes sense... right?

If I'm Randy and don't get the support from the board this year... I'm looking at leaving in 2012 or I'm looking at busting the bank to keep me!... Now it becomes a matter of pride!

Ungar

No excuse. Our hitting has been lacking in power and consistency.

I am just not gonna panic about it yet.

Just like when we lost 3-0 to BC and then came back and beat them twice.

Our bullpen continues to shine, and when it comes time for the regionals, that will be what matters, not the game versus Fordham in mid-March.

canezilla

weekend pitchers???? so what, we only had 6 hits whats the excuse there?

Cat 5 Cane

This story goes beyond baseball...nice story

Jimenez gave up medicine to dispense pills

By Jeff Passan, Yahoo! Sports
Mar 15, 11:11 pm EDT

TUCSON, Ariz. – When Ubaldo Jimenez(notes) turned 16 years old, the New York Mets offered him $20,000 to sign. His father, Ubaldo Sr., drove a city bus. His mother, Ramona, worked as a nurse. In the impoverished Dominican Republic, this was life-changing money, the sort nobody turns down.

“My parents said no,” Jimenez said. “They didn’t want me to sign until I finished high school. I always respected my parents, and I knew it was for my own good, so I didn’t sign. I always figured I was going to be a doctor anyway.”

Today, the Colorado Rockies hurler throws a baseball harder than every other starter in the major leagues, and his nonpareil arm isn’t nearly his most intriguing aspect. That would be who Jimenez is in spite of – and perhaps because of – where he grew up.

The Dominican is an educational wasteland. Less than half the country’s children attend high school, and a significantly lower number graduates. The country spends a little more than 2 percent of its gross domestic product on public education, about 60 percent less than the United States. The culture swallows up generations of youth, and the poverty cycle continues unabated.

Baseball offers an escape for boys who now see that more than 10 percent of Major League Baseball players are of Dominican descent, and so it’s nothing for a buscon – a talent agent of sorts – to snatch a 12-year-old out of school, place him in a baseball academy for four years and farm him out to teams as a 16-year-old international free agent. Though no official statistics are kept on high-school graduation among Dominican players, it’s safe to say at most a handful of the 128 who played in the major leagues last year earned a diploma.

Jimenez’s parents saw the penury of their homeland and wanted something different, and as they cultivated their son’s love of baseball, they made sure to nurture his mind as well. Jimenez took English lessons near his home in San Cristobal on the weekends, and once Ubaldo Sr. and Ramona realized these lessons were substandard, they sent Ubaldo and his older sister, Leidys, on an hour-long bus ride to the capital city of Santo Domingo for better tutoring. Jimenez’s curiosity grew, as did his ability to throw a ball.

“I used to love medicine,” he said. “My mom’s a nurse. It’s something I grew up seeing. Every time people got sick, my mom would be the one who helped make them better.”

Leidys is studying to be a doctor. Ubaldo chose to take his scalpel to hitters.

Rolando Fernandez, the Rockies’ director of Latin American operations, came to Jimenez’s parents with a compromise: If he signed with the Rockies, they would allow him to finish high school. The family appreciated the gesture, Jimenez passed his boards and soon thereafter the franchise had a right-hander who quickly proved Fernandez’s patience worthwhile.
Continue...
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-jimenez031510
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"a talent agent of sorts – to snatch a 12-year-old out of school, place him in a baseball academy for four years and farm him out to teams as a 16-year-old international free agent."

1) I'm shocked at their HS system. 2)The agents farming the kids out and 3)The system in general... I realize it is bitter sweet and is a way for the kids to have a chance but what about the 95% of others who don't make it!

Sebastian(2001U G.O.A.T.)

5 year contract for the man

I voted for it and I will stick by it

Im not going to call for the mans head and I want to see a commitment from the suits that they are commited to this man and the football program

If its true and they want a 3 year contract with a low buyout, then what the hell is that saying?

We all are sure Randy isnt leaving the U to go elsewhere.

Im standing by this: IN RANDY I TRUST

Ungar

We lost a midweek game with our backups and without our weekend pitchers. Not worth panicking about, YET....

Ungar

As far as the Coker OSU comment earlier.....look at the tape frame by frame and be honest with yourself..a hold and a facemask...then look at the game film...17 points off TOs, let them convert a 4th and 14, 4 cracks to tie it again, and a sieve of a O line When you start reading your press clippings and think you are too good to lose...you just might...JMO

Posted by: VA Cane | March 17, 2010 at 12:11 AM

I am guessing you mean my comment here:

Coker's first loss was against OSU* in that game with the bad call at the end. But look at the talent on both teams. That game should not have been put into Terry Porter's hands. I think he started coasting, and the players picked up on that....
Posted by: Ungar | March 16, 2010 at 04:31 PM

So, I will respond:

"As far as the Coker OSU comment earlier.....look at the tape frame by frame and be honest with yourself..a hold and a facemask" There was slight contact in BOTH directions long before the ball is in the air. in overtime, you let the boys play unless the action truly interferes with the play. Yes, there is possible penalties to call there, just as there were plenty of calls (spearing on the McGahee injury, late hits on Dorsey just about all night) that were not called on OSU. It should have gone both ways. In addition, the call was Pass Interference, which did NOT occur. Be honest with yourself as well, if no call had been made, would people even REMEMBER that play as being at all unusual other than that it was the last play of the game?

"then look at the game film...17 points off TOs, let them convert a 4th and 14, 4 cracks to tie it again, and a sieve of a O line When you start reading your press clippings and think you are too good to lose...you just might...JMO" I don't disagree with this, in fact, it was what I was saying when I said "That game should not have been put into Terry Porter's hands. I think he(Coker) started coasting, and the players picked up on that...."

canezilla

CANES LOSE TO FORDHAM?????????WAIT UNTIL WE PLAY GT,UNC,UVA,FSU MY GOD GOOD LUCK

Esteban

WGT22, yeah its going to be a zoo.

raizecane

Do you think I will upset some folks up there if I wear my 'Canes gear?? It is St. Patty's Day after all......

raizecane

^^^ I meant WGT22......

raizecane

WBT22 - I am on my way to G-ville this morning. Maybe I'll storm the field and take out a few players.

WGT22

As close to 20 thousand people await to enter the Swamp in Canesville Fl. to watch Florida's Pro Day at 10 am ... The latest word from the Gator lockeroom is that Tim Tebow entered a bathroom toilet stall just minutes ago and was timed at a very respectable 1 min. 43 secs. latch lock to flush.


more on this developing story later .

canechic

ANYONE WHO THINKS DONNA IS BAD FOR UM just does not have a clue. I have a daughter in school in Miami and the school is a much better place with Donna there. She loves the school, loves athletics. She is definitely more academic oriented but being a school president carries more burdens than just the football team. Sorry guys your blame is in the wrong place there.

HearAcane

sounds like the majority of Canespace is on the fence about Randy as well.

if you guys are so convinced that he is the right coach why not the 5 year extension and major pay increase?

Posted by: Daytoncane | March 16, 2010 at 09:54 PM

88% of the respondants feel that we should keep Randy.....

SOUP

317 votes

48% for the 3 year deal.

Cat 5 Cane

"if you guys are so convinced that he is the right coach why not the 5 year extension and major pay increase?"... Dayton
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and when we do, I agree with a 5 year deal. To me, 3 years is an insult and besides, it's only going to cost you more later, after he does well.

Many are on the track to NC and if he doesn't win by 2011, then get rid of him, he's no good and so on!... Get real people! You don't judge a man by how many badges he has... Miami's winning streak was built on "We don't need no stinking badges" and if you want to judge him on his value by winning or not winning an NC in xxx year, then you are missing the value of the man himself!

At this point, Randy has done his very best to give the team leadership, direction and a path to NC, but getting there takes time and endurance to wither the storms.

Later

Esteban

dayton i put 3 years cause that's what Shannon has earned so far. after a great year this year like i expect he'll have earned more.

Cat 5 Cane

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Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer

i think the thing is im talking about the managerial process, while you guys are talking about what goes in the field.

the average fan doesn't know what goes on in the daily operations of a team, they just know what they see (players, coaches, other teams, etc.)

a horrible AD can really cripple a univeristy's athletic program, especailly if certain things aren't handled the right way.

money, health & safety matters, and NCAA rules are major items that an AD cannot afford to mess around with. im not discounting the responsibility of a head coach, but he/she does not have more total reponsibility than the AD.

and as Miami fans, we should all know that scrutiny is often very unwarranted.

Posted by: Daytoncane | March 16, 2010 at 03:47 PM

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Dayton, it's not the total responsibility. Elementary principals have more total responsibilities than my friends on Wall St. trading bonds but guess who makes multiple millions a year...

Daddeh

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Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer

i don't think you quite know the total responsibility of an AD.

you're saying a coach in one sport is more important than an AD managing every sport at a univeristy?

not so.

Posted by: Daytoncane | March 16, 2010 at 02:04 PM

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Este answered the point but I'll expound. I didn't say AD's and Prez's weren't important. My point was that you're saying something's wrong with our nation because HCs make more money than ADs and Prez's.

To that end you only need to ask yourself the questions of pressure, risk, success and failure.

And besides, a great football team makes an AD's and Prez's job MUCH easier.

Now is it important to have an AD in place who knows how to select the right HC for any sport? Of course.

woobirdsatsunlife

lmao @ "Willow"...

Doc Ibis

I don't think two years is long enough, but three years is a big difference... One and two year contracts are for people on their way out and gives them a last chance to sing their swan song... A 3-5 year contract gives someone a chance to prove their worth... I think 3 years is decent, but I actually am one of the 5 year voters... I'm confident in Randy and I don't want the head coach from Tulsa Golden Hurricanes coming to Miami talking about he knows what its like to be a Cane...

Daytoncane

who's all in this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyUjWbZyNfk&feature=related

VA Cane

I am disgusted at coaches salaries...all paid too much. Stoops, Saban, Urban...good coaches, but millions to coach is well... backwards. Same with rock stars, actors, Bill Dance...I mean paid to fish??? WTF? Nick Cage? he ought to pay us for being so ugly!! How about a fire fighter or the cop on the beat?

Remember Calhoun, the old coot from UConn? highest paid state employee...2 mill? Cmon...then the way he acted about it? like he's worth it...keel over with a heart attack you old goat!! Same with Gino...2nd highest paid state employee...coaching girls that could win without him...

Randy should get the deal signed...but as somebody said...accountability!! He has done ok, and I have never said fire him. That being said...it's time to get over 9-3. Its time to win...Division, Conference, BCS Bowl...and realistically a NC in the next 3 or 4 years...We need to Compete for things, not flirt with them for a couple weeks...we really have been inconsistent. Honestly, all these coaches need low base salaries...low...and base extra $ on certain incentives...don't just give em the whole ball of wax.

As far as the Coker OSU comment earlier.....look at the tape frame by frame and be honest with yourself..a hold and a facemask...then look at the game film...17 points off TOs, let them convert a 4th and 14, 4 cracks to tie it again, and a sieve of a O line When you start reading your press clippings and think you are too good to lose...you just might...JMO

GURU

Why is Shannon lucky to be a coach at a major university?

solarcane

six you gots mail x2

im out, nothing good happens

solarcane

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Daytoncane

a 2 or 3 year extension is enough to you? what kind of security is that?

what will that look like to parents of recruits? if recruiting was hard with two years left on his deal, how easier will it get with only a 2 or 3 year extension?

everybody knows that Randy doesn't want to be anywhere else, so what's the use of giving him a 2-3 year deal?

i just don't see the logic of giving him a short-term deal. if you know he's your guy, secure him with a long-term contract.

'87 Canes

FIRE KIRBY HOCUTT NOW !!!!!!

raizecane

FIRST??????

phillyscott

his "deal" doesn't mean squat.....that pig at ND had 6 years and megabucks left on his "deal" and where is he now.....GONE

Holcutt and Miami are ones making the mistake waiting. A BIG gamble...If these guys pull it together, finish in BCS bowl and top 5, Randy is looking at major cash, probably more than he would command right now, because looking at 2011, should be very little excuse not to be winning word on the big


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