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May 03, 2010

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UMike

First?

86Cane

Aqua who pi$$ed in your cheerios lately ...

You've been on a 4 month downer since the end of the season.

Posted by: CaneSawMassacre | May 03, 2010 at 06:05 PM

Don't sweat Aqua. He get's like that from time to time, especially during the off season after we lose our bowl game to a big, bad mid-western team called:

The Badgers

DZ8

Out for awhile.

solarcane

wad up umike?
how's that future Heisman kid doing?

CaneSawMassacre

Soiler again it was different then, but we still played teams from major conferences...

Now a days a 6 or 7 win team from the ACC, PAC10, or other major confernces would still count as a KEY MATCHUP for BOISE..

Their conference is terrible. That is the point.

They played one big game last year in Oregon and they were FLIPPIN LUCKY they played them at the beggining of the year and they hadn't established their identity.. Then they get the bowl game.

I give them respect because they prepare well for their shine team..

BUT THEY DON"T HAVE TO GRIND LIKE TEAMS FROM MAJOR CONFERENCES DO.. I"M NOT SAYING TODAYS Boise team couldn't play the 83' Hurricanes schedule... That is nonsensical anyways, and your living in fantasyland COUNT CHOCKULA, Why you trying to throw up a hail mary at the last second before the big game.

LOL... We are talking about 2010. Boise St. in my opinion needs to join a major conference or schedule all (except maybe 1) out of conference games against major conference bowl contenders (6-7 win teams or better) to be considred legit.. It is just not fair for the rest of CFB to grind and pound on each other and for Boise to get to lightly glide through their schedule..

And ooooo yea, while were talking about schedules there should be a rule against FL.State and Florida scheduling 2-3 straight patsies out the gate.. NOT COOL!!!

solarcane

dz,

When we go 8-4 its like Randy should lose his job.

When we play a team that's 8-4 they are a real good team and should probably be in some one's top 10 when they play us. lol!

It can't be both ways

Top teams win in double digits, they are known as "The Big Boys," everyone else is very manageable.


great debate on this btw

Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer

DZ8, I would LOVE to get Boisie in a bowl game this year. Absolutely friggin LOVE IT. They're a good solid team that plays well and is very well coached but by the end of 2010 there would be no question about who's going to embarrass who in that game.

Solar, if you're going to show Miami's schedule from back then you may as well show ND's.

It's absurd to compare any team from today to a 1983 team. But compare any Boisie squad to the 1987-1992 Canes and the results would be more or less the same as the results will be if they play us in the coming years.

And when they run up the score on teams, keeping their starters in to make it look good, people will say the same thing. PLAY SOME REAL COMPETITION.

solarcane

canesaw read this slowly

then take a breath and read it again. lol

The Big East was a Joke

If today's Boise played those same teams they would have as many Big East Championships as we do.

As independents we seldom scheduled two double digit winning teams in the same regular season.

We were damn good and could beat anybody, but we didn't play 7 or 8 top 10 teams a year as some people want to think

What you are seeing happen is Boise is this eras version of Miami

They are well coached, have great athletes and play in a joke conference just like we did in the Big Easy.

They are getting close to breaking our home win streak because they get to play their Temples, Rutgers, VT, Pitts, etc

You hate them for the same reason everybody hated us, they are, building up momentum and wins and doing it in an easy conference.

solarcane

capt o here is our 87 schedule,
that you mentioned
if you don't think todays Boise team would go 12 ) you are slipping right back into the kool aid induced coma I pulled you out of three years ago

1987-Miami (Florida) (Independent)

9/5 vs. Florida (6-6) W 31 4
9/26 vs. Arkansas (9-4) W 51 7 @ Little Rock, AR
10/3 @ Florida State (11-1) W 26 25
10/10 vs. Maryland (4-7) W 46 16
10/24 vs. Cincinnati (4-7) W 48 10 @ Cincinnati, OH
10/31 @ East Carolina (5-6) W 41 3
11/7 vs. Miami (Ohio) (5-6) W 54 3
11/14 vs. Virginia Tech (2-9) W 27 13
11/21 vs. Toledo (3-7-1) W 24 14
11/28 vs. Notre Dame (8-4) W 24 0
12/5 vs. South Carolina (8-4) W 20 16
1/1 vs. Oklahoma (11-1) W 20 14 @ Miami, FL Orange Bowl
12-0-0
412 125

Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer

Solar, no, if today's Boise squad played them they'd be middle of the pack. Put it this way, if those same Big East teams played in Boisie's conference they'd be undefeated every dam year.

They are well coached and have good athletes, not in any way shape or form great. They're significantly smaller up front than big schools, and thy don't have much speed. I liken to them to Iowa but they're not as big.

They counter this with great execution, like Iowa did last year.

To compare them to the U in its prime is beyond laughable.

I don't hate them and neither does CSM. I say if they want to be considered a top-dog squad they need to play the top dogs more than one game a year, maybe two.

And beating Oregon in the 1st game, a game most of y'all said was raggedy for both teams, didn't prove jack. Why, when Oregon beat USC?? Well in case you didn't notice STANFORD BEAT THE SHYT OUT OF USC.

Playing VT in MD is a good step in the right direction but then look at the rest of their schedule. They don't even play Fresno St this year or BYU or Utah or even a TCU-like squad.

Like CSM said, they get a cakewalk even if VT thumps them. Meanwhile VT has to walk through a conference schedule of landmines almost every week.

I think TCU even plays a harder schedule.

That's why first I hope VT lays them out. Then I would love for us to rub it in at the end of the year. Rub their friggin noses in that stinkin blue turf.

Fighting Ibis

They are well coached, have great athletes and play in a joke conference just like we did in the Big Easy.

Posted by: solarcane | May 03, 2010 at 09:27 PM

I don't think the Big East was easy at all. Playing VaTech, Boston College, Pittsburg, Syracuse was a tough base of a schedule. Then Miami always scheduled the big boys out of conference. I remember opening the season in Penn State and we always played FSU.

VaTech and Boston College played in the ACC ship one year right? Two of the three teams that came from the Big Easy played against each other to decide the division. One year when we were in the big easy 4 out of the 5 bowl teams that played in bowl games from the big easy won.

Old Skool

Thanks for the reminder. I'd forgotten about Steve Garvey being from Tampa

86Cane

Solar...stop being such a Negative Nancy. Nobody appointed you the great balancer to downplay all of the Hurricanes major accomplsuhments and praise everybody else.

This is a UM blog after all. Soak in the success, smile once in a while, and stop taking your doggie downers and let it go.

Fighting Ibis

Hell I forgot West Virginia was in the Big Easy too. When we left they dominated that conference. They beat Georgia in their bowl game that year. I think you had some very balanced teams in the Big Easy when Miami dominated that played very well out of conference at the time.

solarcane

It's absurd to compare any team from today to a 1983 team

geezus are you and Canesaw the same guy in real life?

What I'm telling you Capt O is TODAY'S Boise team transported back to 1987 would have the capacity to beat ANY team we could beat with our 1987 talent

I know you are 100% convinced anything Cane will outdo everything non Cane and that's OK

Just like I told you three years ago it would be 5 years till we were back, and you insisted The Boss would win the ACC in a season and the NC the next.
So don't pay any attention to my opinion,what does reality have to do with anything? lol

solarcane

if those same Big East teams played in Boisie's conference they'd be undefeated every dam year.

temple, rutgers and vt of our early Big East days would go undefeated in Boise's conference

Your out of your mind

CaneSawMassacre

Solar - 75% of the teams transplanted back to 83 would be better.

Athletes, drugs, knowledge everything is faster, bigger, stronger and smarter....

You can't compare teams to 1983, I think our UM team right now could prob. be better then the 83 team.. I mean def. at least athletically.. Ssssshhhh Jerome Brown is one of the ALL TIME GREATS, but he wasn't a physical freak specimen like Bailey... It seems every year the world record for the 100M gets faster... And people get biggger, stronger, and more athletic..

Who would of thought we would have 6'8 guards like Kobe, or comparing Shaq versus Wilt... It can't be done.

Different time, different game. Lets try and compare Boise today versus teams today...Oh wait we can't cause they don't play anybody.

CaneSawMassacre

Solar your on one of those ego trips..

I'm not even talking Canes.. I'm talking Boise...

I'm talking about trying to compare something from now to something along time ago...

That is like me saying Tyson could knock out Ali

Shaq would dominate Kareem


Emmitt isn't as fast or strong as Adrian Peterson


Barry Bonds was a better pure hitter than Babe Ruth...

I think comparing teams, people, or whatever from different eras is useless because they are from different eras, different types of people, different types of medicine, different types of rules.

What i want to know is how good Boise is (We can talk about how good the 83 team was compared to teams in 83)

But we can't see how good Boise is, because they barely play anybody...

solarcane

"Lets try and compare Boise today versus teams today...Oh wait we can't cause they don't play anybody."

Yea they stunk it up in that Fiesta Bowl against Oklahoma,

oh wait.. you forgot


what big bowl game were we in 2007 again?

solarcane

But we can't see how good Boise is, because they barely play anybody...

again I'll just let your wisdom speak for you

Fighting Ibis

But we can't see how good Boise is, because they barely play anybody...

Posted by: CaneSawMassacre | May 03, 2010 at 09:58 PM

So true! I'd love to see how Boise would hold up to a tough schedule. It's nice for them to be able to skate through a joke of a schedule and be nice and healthy for some bowl they're rewarded for playing NOBODY!

I'll go back in time. The Big East would smoke Boise's conference year in and year out. Who else besides Boise gets anywhere out of that conference?

Boise got up big on OU but once OU figured them out they were coming back and if they had more time would've run away with it. Boise got lucky to pull that win out considering they pulled out to a huge lead.

Boise aint done ish yet!

86Cane

I miss my turtles...

CaneSawMassacre

I give them credit for when they step up in bowl games I stated that..

but lets keep going...

I think Freddy wins versus Jason

I think Alien beats the Predator


I think Jesus beats Buddha


We are talking about Boise St... Not Miami.. I think Boise would have probably beaten Miami the last few years until maybe last year.. I think it would have been a close game (not cause it should be) but I THINK**** Which means i don't know... That we would have won..

Saying Boise St. in 2007 was Better than UM is like saying having sex is better then stapling your balls shut with a stapler..

I still think Boise needs to step up the scheduling and or join a Major conference.
I'm not saying Boise is better or worse than Miami right now cause I really don't know, I think we have better athletes finally but they have a system where they can fully develop athletes for an extended period..and again they don't have to subject themselves to the same wear and tear.

If your arguing the Boise St. vs Miami debate with somebody else I'm sorry.. but I'm not fighting that fight. I'm saying Boise needs to step it up if they want to play for a BCS championship on the schedule side.... And I rather see Boise win a championship than Florida again.. So don't get it all twisted.. But they have to earn it.

solarcane

on a completely different note read Frank Gores 2006 NFL season

now think about the guys we have at running back for the next few years and if they stay healthy going into the NFL

CaneSawMassacre

I'm out for the night.. Didn't mean to bake the pie with sour apples..


Much love canespacers!!

86Cane

Your out of your mind

Posted by: solarcane | May 03, 2010 at 09:48 PM

U have no mind so how would U know?

I LOVE me some Frakie Gore BTW!

solarcane

nite csm no sweat brudda!

solarcane

soup
I hear ya on Gore.
I mean what an incredible season just shy of 1,700 yds rushing and over 2000 total offense your first season as a starter?? wtf!!!

86Cane

but I love to squabble with The Capt, he knows i'm a dumb azz

Posted by: solarcane | May 03, 2010 at 10:20 PM

EVERYBODY knows that!

86Cane

If you knew exactly what was going on at 9 what happened when you grew up?

Posted by: solarcane | May 03, 2010 at 10:30 PM

Exposure to asbestos and lead paint, four concussions and a little alcohol abuse.

Well maybe more than a little?

86Cane

Did I mention that I miss my turtles?

Yeah, I thought so...

86Cane

Solar = Fat Rudy

Yeah, I'm comfortable with that.

86Cane

Ibis...yeah I think Solar is off the fiber today. He seems grouchier than usual?

solarcane

here our the first years in the big east fightI, when you were 9 and knew what you were watching

note all the double digit winning seasons the big east produced.
note we lost 2 out of 3 to the only teams with a better record than us even in the dismal big east

its OK fightI everybody gets owned from time to time...

just try and not make a habit of it

big east opponents 91

wv 6-5
bc 4-7

92

vt 2-8-1
temple 1-10
cuse 10-2 ten wins (won 16-10)

93

bc 9-3
vt 9-3
cuse 6-4
temple 1-10
pit 3-8
rtg 4-7
wv 11-1 over 10 wins ( lost 17-14)

94

rtg 5-5
wv 7-6
vt 8-4
cuse 7-4
pitt 3-8
temple 2-9
bc 7-4

95
vt 10-2 ten wins (lost 13-7
rtg 4-7
pitt 2-9
temple 1-10
bc 4-8
wv 5-6
cuse 9-3


orange 'n green in the vein

solar, nothing but love for you but I've got to weigh in on #1, the article, it's very nice, love reading up on the guys I have never heard of and getting some edumacation.

But #2, you are starting to drill a somewhat raw nerve with me on the, "Big Easy," criticism. I have always had issue when people gloss over the fact that upper half of the Big East with UM in it could hang with ANY conference, SEC on down, team by team. Now yes, in the lower half of the conference roster, it was real hit or miss doing conference comparisons. But if you're looking for anybody to accuse of being overrated, you go right to the "Big" 12 with Texas laying egg after egg after egg after egg after . . . you get the point and OU making itself a rep by beating . . . egg laying Texas every year. Also, any conference with two 10 win teams probably has a 12 conference roster to feed six to eight wins to the top 2 with so it's not fair to criticize a conference for "only" having a single 10 win team to show for, that's the team playing in the automatic BCS bowl usually. Any college team with 8 or 9 wins is a "good," not great, football team. Anything above that is the mark of greatness on the college gridiron. If your team beat a team with 8 or 9 wins, your team was the difference basically between that team being a good and not great team that year. Throw in the fact that FSU was on the sched every year and we would have played under-performing UF until they decided to have a yearly showdown with S. Carolina thanks to SEC expansion and UM took games with a "name," national program instead and there's no shame in a supposed, "Big Easy," schedule for our time as a conference member.

Rant over, for now, but you sound like your blog name has been jacked by the gayturd troll over on the PBP blog today man! And Boise would be fortunate to go 8-4 in a BCS conference with that overall team speed, blue turf or not.

CaneSawMassacre

See I never said the Big East Competition was amazing.. I think we had a tougher schedule as independents..

WTF did this whole convo go because I thought we were talking about Boise State and their scheduling..

I'm confused..LOL!

CaneSawMassacre

I meant OUT OF CONFERENCE>. scheduling. And u got to admit, even when we were playing there were still some ranked teams in the Big EASY as you put it Soiler.. A team to push us here and there...

Boise has nothing, while we at least had constant match ups with Florida and FLorida State.

CaneSawMassacre

I mean I get what ur saying Solar, if times were different Boise State could.. quote on quote be considred a what 2 time or eve on time national championship team....

but CFB is very very different now than it was, that is what I'm arguing. Everybody knows it is different, is that necessarily fair to Boise.. No, but it wasn't fair to Coker that his Rivals 5 star recruiting list didn't work out when it looked so good on paper either. Times change, and everybody knows that Boise needs to toughen up the schedule.

CaneSawMassacre

And just as U might say our schedule wasn't amazing...

U know very easily if it weren't for a few boneheaded mistakes, the U could have been champions 8-9 maybe 10 times instead of just 5...

So we could play the what if games all day, I'm saying if Boise wants to make real noise in todays game. THEY KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO!

solarcane

ogv,
we are tight bra
too many years of good stuff together on here.
I understand your points .

I just posted our first five year opponents in the Big East.
If you think those teams could beat some SEC teams back then, that's fine.
I don't think The Big East was that tough when we got in it.
I think we beat some really great teams as an independent and out of conference in the Big East.

I think for each West Virginia or Cuse win there were two Temples or Rutgers or BC gimmies back then.
That seems to irk people for some reason.
I didn't have anything to do with the schedule, but I paid to see the games.

And try not to confuse my sparring with that young whippersnapper ibis as dissing Canes.

Like we were talking about a while back some parents expect more out of their kid everyday, and some parents are just glad as hell their kid aint shootin up.
Both love their kid just as much.

I been getting bricks thrown at me since I mentioned I liked a certain fighter other than The Captain's pugilist, you know the gang mentality on here lol!!

and you really ought to write something again we all enjoy your style.

solarcane

csm, its all good I know where you were going, I think that's what makes the space fun.

Everybody has an opinion even if it doesn't count. lol!

solarcane

ibis
let it go

thats it we both have bored everyone enough.


canesfan5

since 2002 boise state has played 3 top 25 teams.

In 2001 miami played 5 top 25 teams.

just saying

Fighting Ibis

And try not to confuse my sparring with that young whippersnapper ibis as dissing Canes.

Posted by: solarcane | May 03, 2010 at 11:54 PM

Sparring? How about delusional?

What separated Miami from the top programs back in the day was they brought a 2 dimensional offense and defense to CFB. Yes, when Miami entered the Big East the Big East wasn't the top conference and there was Rutgers and Temple. But by Miami going to the Big East the teams in the Big East started playing 2 dimensional ball because they had to play Miami. VaTech is a great example of a team who came out of nowhere and no year in and year out are in the hunt to have a big season because of Miami. When you played Miami you knew you had to be sound defending the run or the pass and had to have an offense that could run or pass the ball. Miami changed that whole dynamic of CFB and I picked up on that when i was a really a whippersnapper.

Is Boise a well coached team? Of course they are. No one on here has said they aren't. If you think that then again you're delusional.

Does Boise play a tough schedule? Hell no! Playing one solid out of conference a year and hiding in a joke of a conference doesn't prove a damn thing. You can't even compare Miami and the Big East because Miami would schedule the toughest competition possible besides being in the Big East. Keep in mind FSU was in their heyday so playing them every year was like a National Championship in itself.

Boise either needs to join a new conference or schedule some real competition out of conference or quit their bitching. Giving them a shot at the show just because goes against everything you say you stand for when dealing with your own kids. Strive for the best? How's ducking competition and hiding in a weak conference striving to be the best?

Miami didn't duck anybody and when they got their shot to play on the big stage they dominated. Boise is still Boise unless they step up. But yes, they're a well coached Boise.

Fighting Ibis

ibis
let it go

thats it we both have bored everyone enough.


Posted by: solarcane | May 04, 2010 at 12:03 AM

I love you man!

aqua

Aqua who pi$$ed in your cheerios lately ...
You've been on a 4 month downer since the end of the season. I think you are underestimating the affect of Jacory's injury on him, and I think you are not expecting a big jump in production from our offense with another year of experience and proper strength and conditioning.

Posted by: CaneSawMassacre | May 03, 2010 at 06:05 PM

huh?

solarcane

ibis

I agree with 99% of that one.

Miami actually scheduled a lot of top teams in the earlier going not because they wanted to, but because they had to, just to get someone to come to the games, ask Saban or Schnelly on that one.

We kept our contracts with ND, East Carolina, and of course FSU and started scheduling some other real tough teams.
by the 90s we wre really getting some tough out of conference games.

in 91 when we had

Tulsa 10-2
Penn st 11-2
FSU 11-2
S Diego 8-4-1
Nebraska (bowl) 9-2-1

and we went undefeated,
nobody could say we didn't schedule the toughest teams.

solarcane

ibis we are good,

I put up with you because I love that sarcastic sense of humor...
not as much fun when its pointed at me mind you, but even then it still makes me grin when you pull off a kill shot.

you remind me a lot of myself back when I knew everything about everything 24/7 lol

aqua

aqua

I thought if George Teague, or Ty Detmer, where included in the documentary and they complimented the Hurricanes,
It would have been more meaningful than a lot of Cane end zone highlights we have all seen a hundred times before the movie came out.

Posted by: solarcane | May 03, 2010 at 05:58 PM

exactly, Mandich was still on the radio then and I remember him bashing the movie and really making a good point about there not being someone outside of the U, ya know backing these guys up...

orange 'n green in the vein

solar, your point about the Rutgers and Temple blowouts are valid, but let's look at it like this:

Big 12 has Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas, KSU (the all time loser program before Snyder scheduled three cupcakes yearly for them).

pac-10 has Oregon State, Oregon and Washington State, when two are up, one is way down and Washington goes 0-12.

Big 10 has Indiana (as a football member!), Purdue, Northwestern, and didn't add Penn State until the mid 90's.

ACC was Clemson and the seven little dwarfs until F$U made them the Indians and the eight little dwarfs instead.

The "almighty" SEC has Vandy, Kentucky, and the two Mississippi's to suck up the bottom of the barrel.

UM's time in the Big "Easy," wasn't any less impressive than the top teams' runs in any of the other premier conferences and with the standard, "name," school to go with FSU during their unprecedented run of top 5 finishes, can stand up to anybody's scrutiny, Rutgers and Temple or not.

Not trying to pile on in the wake of "Pugilist-gate" on Canespace with you, but like I said, you're grinding a traditionally raw nerve for me with this topic so I want to state my case clearly and firmly here.

solarcane

ogv
great list of the cannon fodder in each conference

It's good for football to have the giants and dwarfs mixed together.


How much revenue do the little schools haul in when the conference champiuon comes to town?

I belive mostly I was just spoiled during the Big East days, I knew we were going to win before I left the house.
I mean even when cuse or WV were playing great.

Six

I don't remember who said it in the whole scheduling argument about how "East Carolina was pretty good back then" ..... maybe back in the 70s when they were in the Southern Conference, a division 1-AA conference

1980-1989 when they were Independents: only 2 winning seasons, they had a 45-65 record those 9 years

4-7, 5-6, 7-4, 8-3, 2-9, 2-9, 3-8, 5-6, 3-8, 6-5

Only 2 consecutive winning seasons


1990-1999: they did better, still Independent until 1997, they had 6 winning seasons, they had a
67-47 record those 9 years

5-6, 11-1, 5-6, 2-9, 7-5, 9-3, 8-3, *5-6, *6-5, *9-3

* = joined Conference USA

Three consecutive winning seasons from '90-'99


Weird that they went 5-6, then 11-1, then 5-6 and 2-9

Aqua

On the list:

I didn't know Steve Garvey was from Florida(and made us proud)

and I'd put Ottis Anderson in my list of top ten Canes of all-time.


solarcane


Weird that they went 5-6, then 11-1, then 5-6 and 2-9


Six ( 91 East Carolina 11-1), was when Syracuse was so good and East Carolina beat them

solarcane

#35 Lemar Parrish
#34 Frank Gore
#33 Dick Howser
#32 Ottis Anderson
#31 Steve Garvey

I must've had these guys in perfect order or nobody ever heard of them


Six

You play who is in your conference, you can't help that

You try and schedule "big boy" schools for your out of conference, to shut people up on message boards and sports talk radio

Somehow, I don't really think the AD or Coaches care about the people on message boards or sports talk radio

All they care about is beating whoever it takes to get them to a big bowl game, then going out there for that one game and beating one of the "big boy" schools

I agree, I don't want to hear too much crying out of them. I also think though that the "big boy" schools should sack up when Boise State comes a callin' and wants to do a home-and-home - instead of declining it

I could give a flying f**** about conferences. I'm a Canes fan, not a Big East fan when they were in it ... or a ACC fan now. I don't stick up for the ACC. If I was a fan of a team in the SEC, I would just care about my team - I wouldn't stick up for the SEC

I have no allegiance to a conference. I'm a Cane, not a conference

The '09 Canes couldn't even beat Wisconsin. They needed a miracle to beat Wake Forest. They were losing to Duke at halftime. They were playing an Oklahoma team without Jermaine Gresham and the #1 overall pick in the NFL Draft, Sam Bradford - and pulled out a 1 point win. They got their ass stomped by VTech ..... I'm just playing devils advocate here

If the '09 Canes played everyone like they did GTech this year - that would be something

But since they didn't, I wouldn't say that the '09 Canes could beat either the '09 TCU or '09 Boise State team

Who gives a crap about how athletic the '09 Canes are. They can run faster, bench more, etc. etc. but if they're not out-executing anyone than it doesn't really matter, does it. This past year's Boise State and TCU teams were pretty ok on the execution side

TCU was #1 in the nation in Defense and #7 in Total Offense. They beat both Virginia and Clemson - AT UVA and Clemson. Everyone was hoping that TCU would get matched up in a different bowl, to see that defense take on someone like UiF

That DE that the Colts took in the 1st Round from TCU, Jerry Hughes, is a badass ... but even I don't think he's as nasty as the LB from TCU taken in the 2nd Round by the Cardinals, Daryl Washington

Boise State was #1 in the nation in Scoring Offense and #14 in Total Defense. Say what you want about them scoring on lesser teams in their weak conference, if you don't think they couldn't exploit the Canes D with their TEs roaming free or WRs roaming to do exactly what Wisconsin did, I would say that you might be wrong

Someone mentioned it earlier, Boise is returning 21 of 22 starters. That's what they do. These kids stay. The year that they beat Oklahoma with Adrian Peterson - Boise had the most starters returning than any other team in the entire nation. Their QB, Zabransky, had 20 wins in the previous 2 seasons and that was more than any returning QB in all of the NCAA in the 2006-2007 season

They don't try and out do you athletically, b/c they just can't ... they try and out-execute you

The year they beat Oklahoma, they played 5 Bowl bound teams on their schedule. 4 of the 5 teams they played, won their Bowl game. They also trounced Oregon State that year, who later beat USC and ended their 38 game win streak

The one Bowl bound team that they played, who didn't win their bowl game - it was Nevada. They lost to the Canes in their Bowl by 1 point with the help of a Matrix style INT by Chavez Grant


Six

solar - that 1991 Syracuse team also beat the crap out of UiF at home ... and I believe that is the last game that the Crocs have scheduled on the road that was out of conference

19 years. The Crocs haven't played an out-of-conference game that wasn't in the state of Florida


Also, FSU beat Syracuse down the week before the ECU game, 46-14. They were probably still licking their wounds when they played ECU, they lost by 3 points

And what happened to ECU that they went 5-6 and then 2-9 after that 11-1 season?


Fighting Ibis

And what happened to ECU that they went 5-6 and then 2-9 after that 11-1 season?


Posted by: Six | May 04, 2010 at 01:59 AM

Fat Bastard stole their mojo?

86Cane

U guys crack me up! See U this PM...

MDCane

Let this be a warning for all who plan on storming the field after we win the NC.

Courtesy of Palm Beach Post:
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/phillies-fan-tasered-after-running-onto-field-666511.html

Fighting Ibis

The year they beat Oklahoma, they played 5 Bowl bound teams on their schedule. 4 of the 5 teams they played, won their Bowl game. They also trounced Oregon State that year, who later beat USC and ended their 38 game win streak

Posted by: Six | May 04, 2010 at 01:49 AM

They were damn lucky to beat OU that year. OU came out flat and Boise got up on them. OU came to life and Boise was in trouble. The only thing that kept Boise in that game was the clock because they were clearly outmatched. If OU came out on fire Boise gets there shyt pushed in. The final score was 43-42 and Boise went for 2 after a TD because they knew they'd lose if they had to go to OT. It was all OU at the end of that game. But hats off to Boise for their coach getting them ready to play. OU wins that game 9 out of 10 times though. Just wasn't their day.

UMike

who cares about boise lol...this is a CANES blog..besides..when we go 11-1 or close and EARN some respect, then we can complain about teams ranked ahead of us lol

Fighting Ibis

Let this be a warning for all who plan on storming the field after we win the NC.

Courtesy of Palm Beach Post:
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/phillies-fan-tasered-after-running-onto-field-666511.html

Posted by: MDCane | May 04, 2010 at 10:44 AM

Welcome to the police state! Cops suck!

Abuse of power is all they know anymore. Shame on the people of this country for giving up their freedoms in the name of security. Anyone who gives up their freedom in the name of security deserves neither freedom or security.

The government ruins everything it touches but we just keep handing these incompetent fools more and more power. Right now the public sector is growing faster than the private sector courtesy of the money from the private sector. Now big government police state is change you can believe in. I wonder what new freedom stripping law the government will pass from that bomb scare in NY that the FBI staged. The media instantly came out saying it was a Tea Bagger? This country is so fucked because of idiots who think the guvment can take care of them. They can't even contain a oil spill when they had the means to do it that were implemented way back in 1994. But idiots want to put their health in our guvments hands? Big Guvment supporters need their heads examined.

Aqua

Huh?

Fighting Ibis

Huh?

Posted by: Aqua | May 04, 2010 at 11:51 AM

Just go back to sleep. When you wake up you won't recognize this country by the time Hugo Chavez is done. Oops! I mean Barack Obummer.

DrewZ2

Ibis - Abuse of power? the kid is acting like an idiot, you can't just have fans running on the field. I have absolutely no problem with this at all. What would you, as a police officer, done differently in that situation? You never know when the fan running may have a knife and is trying to injure an officer or athlete. O and btw a taser really does little harm to an individual and if ur gonna pull a stunt like this then you deserve the consequences.


Before you get all up in arms against me ill let you know that I agree with the second paragraph except I won't buy the fact that the government staged the bomb. But yes the government ruins everything, health care is BS, and i would rather help myself than take government handouts.

Aqua

Watch out ibis, the man is out to get you, you know too much...lol

Fighting Ibis

Ibis - Abuse of power? the kid is acting like an idiot, you can't just have fans running on the field. I have absolutely no problem with this at all. What would you, as a police officer, done differently in that situation?

Posted by: DrewZ2 | May 04, 2010 at 11:58 AM

Done differently? Seriously? What would that cop have done before tazers? The cops would've grabbed the guy and taken him to jail. Your ok with a cop having the right to taze you because of a misdemeanor? Tazers have killed people. It's not normal to get eletrocuted.

A fan running on to the field because he loves his team and wanted to get some airtime? This isn't like he went nuts in a bank and had to be subdued? He was in a packed stadium with plenty of cops around so he didn't need to be tazered. Why have a gun at all as a police officer? A gun is supposed to be a life or death situation. A fan running on the field isn't a life or death situation. So the guy made the angry so he tazered him? What statute did the guy violate to deserve to be tazered? Does that statute violation recommend one tazering from a slow cop who couldn't cath up because he ate too many doughnuts? This tazer garbage is just a way for police to have a gray area to work with. Just because you have the technology for tazers doesn't mean you should use it. Talk about violation of human rights.

If you love the constitution at all then surely you see a problem with this.

Fighting Ibis

Watch out ibis, the man is out to get you, you know too much...lol

Posted by: Aqua | May 04, 2010 at 12:00 PM

No I just know my rights that were given to me by very smart men who saw the corruption 1st hand from their trips to Europe. They designed a government that protected it's people from government. The only reason politicians today want to do away with the constitution is because it limits them in their corruption.

You better start protecting this country because currently no one is. Once you lose freedom you never get it back. We only have one shot at this.

Aqua

That Fiesta bowl with OU and Boise did go to OT.

Fighting Ibis

That Fiesta bowl with OU and Boise did go to OT.

Posted by: Aqua | May 04, 2010 at 12:21 PM

Yeah that's right. My bad. But OU scored 18 points in the 4th quarter and when they got the ball in OT they came away with 7 and Boise went for it all.

Either way, Boise came out and got a lead while OU was sleep walking but OU still gave them a game at the end.

Aqua

Jan. 1, 2007 Boise State 43, Oklahoma 42 (OT)

Aqua

Either way, Boise came out and got a lead while OU was sleep walking but OU still gave them a game at the end.

Posted by: Fighting Ibis | May 04, 2010 at 12:29 PM

yeah, A.Peterson was taking over the game. I think he scored on the first play in OT.

j.w.

If you love the constitution at all then surely you see a problem with this.

I do and defend it all the time, but I see no problem with tasing someone who runs on to a field, evades cops, refuses instructions to stop, disrupts a commercial event, and showed no respect for anyone else's rights. I don't see what alternative would have been more effective- he wasn't going to stop until someone forced him to, and getting six or seven officers to tackle him could have caused more injuries. Maybe the next idiot who wants to try this will think twice.

raizecane

Raize you making it to Columbine???

GO CANEZ!!!!!

Posted by: Canez1 | May 03, 2010 at 12:48 PM


CANEZ1 - I am still working on the funds to be able to go. I have a place to stay so thats not a problem. It's the $900 for two tickets thats holding me up.

canezilla

i dont like boise but they try and schedule hard teams,sounds like nobody wants to play them?

UMike

raize...ive found tickets for as low as $155 a peice..but their way up top...thats about all I can do at the moment..but I just want to be there, i dont care where I sit.

Fighting Ibis

I do and defend it all the time, but I see no problem with tasing someone who runs on to a field, evades cops, refuses instructions to stop, disrupts a commercial event, and showed no respect for anyone else's rights. I don't see what alternative would have been more effective- he wasn't going to stop until someone forced him to, and getting six or seven officers to tackle him could have caused more injuries. Maybe the next idiot who wants to try this will think twice.

Posted by: j.w. | May 04, 2010 at 12:45 PM

A guy ran on the field? Seriously? Do you know how many times it's happened in the past and people have been escorted off? Usually the crowd gets a kick out of it. Now if you do it you may be electrocuted? How damn lazy have cops become? Let me guess, this was an act of terrorism?

I think he should have lost a leg for doing it. Then crowds would know not to run onto the field and show any emotion because they'll lose a leg.

Since he got electrocuted maybe that'll be his punishment then huh? No, I bet he still pays a fine so the man can collect some revenue too. So they get to electrocute people and still take their money. Sign me up! These guvment jobs sound like fun. Get to watch baseball games and if those pesky citizens who pay your wages get out of hand you can electrocute them. I bet they even have a mob like union who'll insure I get pay increases and a retirement plan that's unsustainable courtesy of those same pesky citizens.

Every time the media scares people like you I lose some freedom for your false security.

Aqua

Talk about some urine flavored cheerios

DZ8

I think we should hire Mike Curtis to train all stadium security guards. He played LB for the Colts back in Baltimore and when some drugged fan ran onto the field he left his huddle and leveled him.

Some of Mikes' teammates complained saying that it made all football players look bad. Mike said, The fan was in violation of an ordanance and I enforced it. haha

Before my time but some great interviews with the Colts of that era. Art Donovan is a treasure trove of quotes. The linemen used to go out and try and eat their number in hot dogs!

Also, Art Donovan used to have Don Shula and another defensive backs as roommates and they would wrestle around with the two safeties trying to take out big Art. It didn't sound gay when Donovan said it.

DZ8

solar

I'm glad you agree with me, Boise State has an easy schedule. Enough said:)

Fighting Ibis

Talk about some urine flavored cheerios

Posted by: Aqua | May 04, 2010 at 01:41 PM

Sometimes the truth hurts Aqua.

This is going to be a looooonnnnnnggggg summer. The FAMU game can't get here fast enough.

DZ8

Ian Johnson (the Boise St. RB who got famous for proposing to his cheerleader girlfriend) made sure he wore his Fiesta Bowl ring when he signed/was drafted by the Vikings. He made sure Adrian Peterson saw it, haha.

solarcane

ibis

take a quick peek under your sofa,


"The dream police, they live inside of my head.
The dream police, they come to me in my bed.
The dream police, they're coming to arrest me, oh no.

You know that talk is cheap, and those rumors ain't nice.
And when I fall asleep I don't think I'll survive the night, the night.

'Cause they're waiting for me.
They're looking for me.
Ev'ry single night they're driving me insane.
Those men inside my brain.


or maybe

Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away.


just kiddin brud,
but leave the politics and paranoia for another forum please.

You know I let you slide plenty on the other rants, so help me out on this one.


j.w.

Sorry, fighting, but I don't think you could be more wrong on this. Seles got stabbed by someone running on the court. That Coach for the KC Royals was assaulted by those two morons in Chicago. Do you want to take the chance that the idiot who needs this kind of attention isn't mentally ill or drunk enough to do something stupid? I don't. Times have changed and we don't need to wait for one more injury before determining this is ridiculous. And he didn't lose a leg or suffer any serious injury: http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/92762844.html?cmpid=15585797

solarcane

dz

I didn't really make much progress for my 6 hour Boise rant.
I'm going with a different tactic tonight,
"The current Boise team could beat BTW and would give MNW a good game."

DZ8

Did anybody see a man in a monkey suit got shot by zookeepers with a tranquilizer gun?! Reminds me of the end of Trading Places... classic... life immitating art.

Six

Boise State won the game

Who cares what Oklahoma did or didn't do. That sounds like Oklahoma fans telling Cane fans that if Bradford and Gresham did play, they would've won the game this past year - esp. since the Canes only won by 1 point and I'm sure those 2 would've made a difference. Boise answered the call with a couple of plays that took insanely large balls to call/pull off

That hook and ladder play was unreal - 4th and 18, they pull that play out for a 50 yard TD .. so was the statue of liberty play at the end

Which team came out more focused and executed better?

That's what I said earlier. A team like Boise most likely isn't going to out-athlete you and Chris Petersen knows that

It's not about winning 9 out of 10 times or whatever. When you're on a stage like that, you make your mark by winning it right then, right there. It's about winning it when it's presented to you

They won when it mattered

Both teams had basically the same amount of time to prepare for the game right? Oklahoma probably had the athletic advantage, right? Well, they got beat

Boise got 3 INTs in that game, they also got a huge sack that forced a fumble at Oklahoma's 9 yard line. Those 3 INTs were a career high for Paul Thompson in a game. Even with him playing all year in the Big 12 - nobody got 3 picks on him from that conference (#7 Texas, #23 Mizzou, #21 Texas A&M, #18 Nebraska) and neither did #18 Oregon

DZ8

My main point is this, Who has the easier schedule, 2010 Boise St. or 2010 Miami?

Six

That's why it cracks me up when I hear people saying NCAA football should have a playoff system - how March Madness works

Really? Well, going by a lot of people's logic, it still really wouldn't work in crowning a champion in the people's minds

Why? B/c you have a team like Butler, who comes from a crappy conference ... right?

THE HORIZON LEAGUE - it's not exactly the Big East or ACC

Even though they beat Syracuse, Kansas State and Michigan State - and almost sent it to overtime with National Champion Duke .... don't they still have detractors who say, "well, if they would've played Syracuse, Kansas State & Michigan State 10 times, they would've lost at least 7 or 8"

No, I didn't hear that. I heard that "holy crap, Butler plays good fundamental basketball and knocks down their shots, along with good fundamental defense"

So, why can't that happen in football? Apples to oranges? Maybe. But not as far as that. Butler knew they weren't going to out-athlete the big boys like 'Cuse, Kansas State and Sparty - they knew they had to out-scheme, out-defense and knock down their looks when they were presented

And they did. They ran into a wall against Duke, who had the tallest team in the entire tourney - but honestly, they still should've won and had it in their grasp. That fade away jumper at the end by Hayward, that just rimmed out, would've basically won it

DZ8

But that is why a play off system would work Six. If Butler wins it all no one cares about their crappy conference.

Same with football. A playoff would take away from the best regular season in all of sports. I would just petition for a plus-one game. For example this year it would've/could've been Boise St. vs. Alabama. Those were the two undefeateds left right?

Six

DZ8 - that's simple, of course Boise does

Then again, as I've said before, I don't feel too bad for Boise when they complain about not getting respect.

But, they also can't help what conference they play in. And it doesn't help with "big boy" schools that don't want to travel up to Boise for a home-and-home

Maybe they also have a little UiF in them, they realize they don't have to travel for out of conference games, as long as they can still have a shot to get into a BCS game by winning their schedule


DZ8

DZ8 - that's simple, of course Boise does

? I don't get it. "of course Boise does" what?

If Boise wins it all then they proved it by playing thru their "schedule" then a Bowl game against top competition, then the plus one game. That would be too easy.

DrewZ2

Done differently? Seriously? What would that cop have done before tazers? The cops would've grabbed the guy and taken him to jail. Your ok with a cop having the right to taze you because of a misdemeanor? Tazers have killed people. It's not normal to get eletrocuted.

A fan running on to the field because he loves his team and wanted to get some airtime? This isn't like he went nuts in a bank and had to be subdued? He was in a packed stadium with plenty of cops around so he didn't need to be tazered. Why have a gun at all as a police officer? A gun is supposed to be a life or death situation. A fan running on the field isn't a life or death situation. So the guy made the angry so he tazered him? What statute did the guy violate to deserve to be tazered? Does that statute violation recommend one tazering from a slow cop who couldn't cath up because he ate too many doughnuts? This tazer garbage is just a way for police to have a gray area to work with. Just because you have the technology for tazers doesn't mean you should use it. Talk about violation of human rights.

If you love the constitution at all then surely you see a problem with this.

Posted by: Fighting Ibis | May 04, 2010 at 12:15 PM

I see absolutely no problem at all with this. It's not like police go around and use their tasers on anyone and everyone. They can't or they will face retribution such as loss of employment and law suits. All police officer face numerous law suits each year. The man running around like the idiot he is, tresspassed and resisted arrest among other offenses I'm sure. You would have to look at department policy regarding the use of tasers I believe, but the officer in this case will not get in trouble. The man didn't have to run on the field, and he also had the chance to stop before the police arrested him - and he didn't. I am a big conservative but there is zero problem with this issue

Six

DZ8 - no way if Boise State would've been in the championship game and beaten Alabama

Excuses out the ass would've been pouring like if the Hoover Dam exploded

Bama didn't come to play. Bama overlooked them. 99 out of 100 times Bama would win. Bama got food poisoning. Boise paid off the refs

So, why if Butler did what they did, there wasn't a bombardment of excuses for them beating 'Cuse, Kansas St. and Sparty? And if they would've beaten Duke like they should've - where would the excuses about Duke losing come from, instead of the praise about Butler winning

Six

Boise has the easier 2010 schedule than Miami 2010

DZ8

Yes there would be excuses just like Miami/Ohio St. or Miami/Nebraksa in 1983. But you know what, they wouldn't matter at that point. It would be settled on the field.

You think Ohio St. fans care that we would've/should've beaten them 9 out of 10 times? Do we care that Nebraska fans say the same thing?

A modest proposal... just a plus-one game... that way we keep the importance of the regular season. (And most years you can say that the regular season IS the playoffs for college football.)

DZ8

Ottis Anderson is a great Hurricane! Thanks to solar, I think, awhile back posted some video clips of OJ in action. I had no idea he was such a beast. Right before Miami got good. True heroes of the Hurricanes!

Six

DZ8 - that's my point exactly, it wouldn't or doesn't matter b/c it's settled on the field ... no matter who you played before to get to that game, even if you have a weaker conference

That's why I brought up the Boise St. vs. Oklahoma Fiesta Bowl. And also why I brought up the Miami vs. Oklahoma game this past year without Bradford or Gresham


DZ8

Well I think we agree then. Boise St has a weak schedule.

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