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July 22, 2010

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solarcane

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solarcane

Small world stuff, concerning Cane players.

If any of you guys on here went to the U from 86 to 92 you may know this cat.
I don't think he was a starter.

I walk into Outside World Kayak Shop to put some more money on the second kayak.

A really big guy in good shape working there asks me where I was paddling last weekend

I said a bunch of us from the Canespace blog went down The Chattoooga.

He smiles and says "ahh Canes , close to my heart."

I said you a fan?

he says:

"I was on the football team from 87 to 91'

His name is Fred then a really really long last name, that I didn't get, but I will.
He said him and his brother were both on the team.
He said he had his azz handed to him everyday by Leon Searcy.

He is good friends with Steve Walsh ,Craig Erickson and Melvin Bratton.

He said he hangs out with a young buck named Jeremy Shockey.
He said Shockey is one of the best guys ever.
When everyone is out drinking, no matter how much fun they are having Shockey says Hes out at 1 AM and always gets up and leaves.

Long story short he is going to try and go with us on the Clemson/Chatttooga trip.

He has a website that makes shirts but I didn't get the name right.

solarcane

One mans opinion

Expose the NCAA, not the athletes
Jason Whitlock

The NCAA rule book is not the United States Constitution.

If anything, the rule book supporting the bogus concept of “amateur athletics” is akin to the laws that supported Jim Crow, denied women suffrage and upheld slavery.


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Who should investigative reporters be going after? The agents The coaches The players The schools The NCAA
The architect of the modern NCAA, the organization’s former president, Walter Byers, spelled out all of this in his 1997 mea culpa, “Unsportsmanlike Conduct: Exploiting the Student-Athlete.”

Byers wrote: “Today the NCAA Presidents Commission is preoccupied with tightening a few loose bolts in a worn machine, firmly committed to the neo-plantation belief that the enormous proceeds from college games belong to the overseers (administrators) and supervisors (coaches). The plantation workers performing in the arena may only receive those benefits authorized by the overseers.”

Byers was not and is not a Jesse Jackson sympathizer. Byers is a white, right-wing conservative from Kansas. He was the NCAA’s first president (1951-1988) and sole visionary. He admitted creating a monster. His NCAA memoir was his repentance and call for a fundamental overhaul of a corrupt organization.

Reggie Bush is Kunta Kinte, a runaway slave.

The media are slave-catchers, mindless mercenaries crucifying child athletes for following the financial lead of their overseer coaches such as Pete Carroll, Lane Kiffin and Nick Saban.

I graduated from a very good journalism school. Ball State’s program is not the equal of Northwestern’s or Missouri’s, but I feel quite comfortable that I understand the role of journalists.

Journalists are not trained to be attack dogs for morally bankrupt institutions.

At some point, we can recognize that an investigative journalism award and individual career advancement do not justify pretending there is some honor in safeguarding the NCAA’s plantation.

USC is giving back Reggie Bush’s Heisman Trophy. Call me when Pete Carroll gives back a dime. Call me when USC offers a refund to all the people who purchased Reggie Bush jerseys.

Call me when the phony moralizing stops and we, the media, quit demonizing black kids for cashing in like white men.

If you read this column regularly, you know I’m fond of the TV show "The Wire" and making Wire-related analogies. The pursuit of Reggie Bush and his Heisman Trophy is the equivalent of police commissioner Ervin Burrell demanding a “buy-bust sting” and “dope on the table.”


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It’s a publicity stunt. Everyone is falling for it. It’s working so well that Nick $aban had the audacity to climb on his LSU-Dolphins-Alabama high horse and claim that the rules-breaking street agents are pimps.

It takes one to know one, Nick “Mr. White Folks” Saban.

Pack journalism must die. My industry/profession has sold the NCAA lie for too long. We’ve served as the NCAA’s volunteer investigative unit for 40 years.

Why?

We know exactly what Byers knows and admitted: amateur athletics is a for-profit scam.

Television and money perverted college football and basketball a generation ago. Coaches and administrators are making millions. The athletes are being compensated in a currency (a shot at a compromised education in their spare time) many of them don’t respect and haven’t been properly prepared to use. The NCAA takes most of the money generated by football and men’s basketball and invests it in welfare sports that don’t generate a dollar and are played mostly by kids who have nothing in common with the football and basketball players who produced the revenue.

Add in that we now have a far better understanding of the long-term health risks associated with playing football and it’s even more clear why these young people can’t resist taking what’s offered to them.

Reggie Bush is Kunta Kinte.

The media are going to chop his Heisman Trophy off, drag him back to USC’s plantation and let new athletic director Pat Haden lash his legacy in front of Chicken George, Fiddler and Kizzy.

And several reporters will get promotions, pay raises and a few plaques for “catching” Reggie Bush.

I have a great deal of respect for the reporters at Yahoo Sports, the media outlet that has led the Bush investigation. But I have no respect for the NCAA rule book. I have no respect for the sports journalism-awards culture that rewards NCAA rules-violation stories.


Yahoo Sports has done awesome work exposing financial links between summer basketball kingpins, the Pump brothers, and high-profile college basketball coaches and administrators. I mention this because I don’t want to create the impression that reporters I respect solely focus on supporting out-of-date NCAA/amateur athletics rules.

But this Reggie Bush story has infuriated me. I’ve listened to too many talking heads shred Bush and street agents as though they’re the problem in college athletics.

The problem is the lie, the original sin, the myth that our society is enhanced by protecting the fallacy of “amateur athletics.” Rather than destroy Reggie Bush and his Heisman Trophy, aggressive, righteous journalists should work to destroy the NCAA and every other institution in support of the amateur lie.

solarcane

Shutout On Road

By Hurricanes: at Syracuse, 11/18/00, UM 26-0

man that's an eternity

Old Skool

Interesting info. Thanks Roach

Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer

"I was on the football team from 87 to 91'

His name is Fred then a really really long last name, that I didn't get, but I will.
He said him and his brother were both on the team.
He said he had his azz handed to him everyday by Leon Searcy.

He is good friends with Steve Walsh ,Craig Erickson and Melvin Bratton.

He said he hangs out with a young buck named Jeremy Shockey.
He said Shockey is one of the best guys ever.
When everyone is out drinking, no matter how much fun they are having Shockey says Hes out at 1 AM and always gets up and leaves.

Long story short he is going to try and go with us on the Clemson/Chatttooga trip.

He has a website that makes shirts but I didn't get the name right.

Posted by: solarcane | July 22, 2010 at 09:45 PM


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Solar, this is so classic you. You meet a member of the team from the most dy-nastic years ever and only remember his first name. lol


Keep us posted. haha

Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer

But this Reggie Bush story has infuriated me. I’ve listened to too many talking heads shred Bush and street agents as though they’re the problem in college athletics.

The problem is the lie, the original sin, the myth that our society is enhanced by protecting the fallacy of “amateur athletics.” Rather than destroy Reggie Bush and his Heisman Trophy, aggressive, righteous journalists should work to destroy the NCAA and every other institution in support of the amateur lie.

Posted by: solarcane | July 22, 2010 at 10:00 PM

Call me when the phony moralizing stops and we, the media, quit demonizing black kids for cashing in like white men.

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Solar, it's always some fukin loser who wants to be a victim writing shyt like this.

WTF does he think USC is supposed to do?

And WTF was Reggie Bush AND HIS PARENTS thinking? Oh, they're thinking I'm going to cheat the system "like white men do."

GOOD LORD!!!!

I guess Elliot Spitzer and every other sleazy, hustlin politician who's been caught is "cashing in like white men."

I gues that sleazeball, punk hustler Jesse Jackson who got fleeced by a dork into having his child has been "cashing in like white men."

And what "white men" is this mofo talking about?? The ones who buy Reggie Bush jerseys and USC tickets and still support him even though he's been caught?

I wish I could just bitch slap fools like this. Bytch slap his azz until he bleeds and can't open his cheesepipe because it's swollen shut.

dlu

thats a good one cav.

Manny Navarro

Hey guys. Got a chance to catch up with one of the greatest Canes ever earlier today, Jonathan Vilma. Check out the Q&A over at Eye On The U.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2010/07/catching-up-with-jon-vilma-super-bowl-champion.html

Lurker

Thanks, Manny.

You're heating up over at Eye on the U. Good stuff.

raizecane

I had no clue Ed Orgeron was our Defensive Line Coach in 1990. I also checked the roster for the 90 and 91 team and found no "Fred".

SOUP

Mandingo catching FIRE! Good stuff Manny.

FIVE questions?

JCane

I don't seem to be allowed the time to hang out here regularly any more, but I'm gonna have to make it my business to with the season quickly upcoming.

Leave it to Solar to come up with one like this. I'm trying to remember pre-midnight, as we all know nothing good happens after. I can't remember a Fred on the roster during those years, and I'm assuming it would be a D player if getting his butt handed to him by Searcy during those years. There was Rod (almost Fred) Carter, but I think he was done before 1991.

I found some old season posters in the closet while cleaning it out recently, including one from the 1983 championship season with the one shot of the two E. Carolina receivers colliding while Sutton was looking on as the game wound down. This play never gets mentioned in the highlight videos, but it saved it all that year.

JCane

Questions for Manny...and hey, Soup.

What freshman will have the most impact this season, excluding special teams?

Will any U fans die in Columbus if seen wearing a LeBron James Heat jersey at the game on 9/11? :)

Manny Navarro

Q: What freshman will have the most impact this season, excluding special teams?
A: Can't just pick one really because nobody is a home run threat. New arrival would be Chase Ford. But in terms of freshmen, I'm putting my money on Seantrel Henderson and Brandon Linder. Offensive line is an area where there is a lot of youth and inexperience. Henderson is a stud and could see real playing time at tackle. Linder could steal the starting center job from Tyler Horn down the line. After that, I'd say cornerback is an area where a freshman could surprise. Obviously a kid like Latwan Anderson could be huge on special teams. But you didn't want to know about special teams.

Q: Will any U fans die in Columbus if seen wearing a LeBron James Heat jersey at the game on 9/11? :)
A: I wouldn't wear one unless I had a death wish. But I'm sure somebody is going to try it out. Should be fun to watch the fight in the stands.

Manny Navarro

Got your 5 questions. Will answer them now.

SOUP

Stay tuned the Mandingo is going to work...

Nashvillecane

Manny what's good man?? My ?uests are what, in your oppinion are the strongest positions on this um team? Thanx

'87 Canes

ALL CANES....ALL DAY !!!!!

86Cane

Manny has been invited and MAY go rafting on the Chattooga River with us in October or July. If he goes who wants in???

86Cane

OK, we have 6 rooms @ $89/night at a hotel in the heart of Islamorada in the Keys for the Thursday and Friday night before the FSU game (10/21-23).

We check in on Thursday and check out Saturday AM to go to the game in Miami.

The Ocean View is owned and operated by this guy, U may have heard of him:

http://www.theocean-view.com/gary.html

He will meet our group and hang out with us on the patio bar to tell us stories of his days as a Hurricane and NFL player.

We will take over the small, simple hotel which only has seven rooms, private salt water pool, tropical patio and is adjacent to the Ocean View Bar and Grill on the water.

Click here:

http://www.theocean-view.com/rooms.html

Need to know who wants in by Monday. Email me at canespace86@aol.com if you are ALL IN!

Manny Navarro

Q: Manny what's good man?? My questions is what in your opinion are the strongest positions on this UM team? Thanx Posted by: Nashvillecane | July 22, 2010 at 11:49 PM

A: Running back, receiver, defensive line and kicker/punter.

Manny Navarro

OK guys, I'm checking out. Have a baseball column to work on. Talk to you soon.

PhillyCane

Posted by: 86Cane | July 23, 2010 at 12:12 AM

I would be in if I ddint already book my room for the marriot in the Grove. How far is that in relation to the Grove? Would love to meet up like last year okla game

zarokon

i dont know whats worse that Clemson is Tony Stewards leader or that FSU was his leader... i know scholarships are only at about what 15 this year. but shouldnt Coach Barrow always be on the phone with the #1 LB in the country from FLORIDA..he hasnt had a call in some time. come on Canes...


We told you in June that five-star ILB Tony Steward's coach said that his star had taken a fancy to Clemson after a great visit to Death Valley. Well, a month later, Steward himself tells Nate Adelson of InsideTheU.com that the Tigers remain atop his list.

"Right now, Clemson is in the lead and everyone else behind them is pretty much tied," the Florida native said. Steward, No. 10 in the ESPNU 150, had plans to visit both Alabama and Miami, but he hasn't made it to either campus yet. In fact, Steward reports that he's now hearing less from the Canes than he was a couple months ago ("I haven't spoken with anyone from Miami lately"), but he will still try to get to Coral Gables at the beginning of August when he is in the area visiting family.

Still, the Canes -- and everyone else -- appear to have an uphill battle to turn Steward against the Tigers.

autumn

very nice article; enjoyed the videos;
well done!
no big thang, but under: "50+Yard Field Goal . . .
By Opponent: Dustin Hopkins, Florida State, 52 yards, FSU 38-34"

shouldn't it read, "Miami 38-34"?

cav - a pretty decent "bytch slap" at 10:24. funny rebuttal.
though it's difficult to defend the ncaa too much.

solarcane

I'll be back at Outside World again this week and talk to the Fred guy.

Me and another one of their staff were measuring my kayak rack to see how much wider I needed to make it, while I chatted with the fred guy.
I'll get the info straight when I get down there,

Maybe he's a scout team guy or a walk on.
or maybe hes full of shyt.

Old Skool

There's always Fred Hogshead, Henry's older brother.

Cat 5 Cane

Roach... Good stuff, I Love Trivia.

Question?... Is Soup pay more for back to back articles??? LOL
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Manny... You are the Man, It's always great to seeing your azz on the Space!
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WHO IS HE???

Big stretch here,,,
Played against Leon S (Tackle) and got his azz handed to him (87 thru 91).
Has brother who played on same team.
Knows Florida football players... Local Kid?
Long, funny spelled last name?
He's not listed on our teams 87/91...

Then where? Who's our biggest rival? FSU... Hummmmm

I think I got it!!! One of two big ole white kids??? Joe or Henry???

Henry Ostaszewski, 6-3, 230, DT, Boynton Beach - Along with twin Joe, was a member of the West Palm Beach all-area team...second team all-state...listed on Lindy's Top 50 Florida list and Sporting News' top 100 list...rated by scout Max Emfinger as the 20th best offensive guard in the South...most of his play was at left tackle in high school...played in the Florida-Georgia all-star game...played freshman and sophomore years at Atlantic High School...plans to major in business.

Joe Ostaszewski, 6-4, 245, DT, Boynton Beach - Named honorable mention 5A all-state...played right guard in high school...named to the West Palm Beach all-area team along with his twin Henry, who also signed with FSU...Lindy's Top 50 Florida list and Sporting News' top 100 list...has played on the same offensive line as his brother since the two were 8-year-olds...has speed - a 4.95 40-yard dash...plans to major in business.


PICTURE
6TH ROW, #74 AND #75
http://nolefan.org/summary/f1987_photo.html

I think I read, Henry is currently involved in youth football or youth training in Ga.... but not sure.


Ya want to get fired up...
this is one of the better stuff I found by accident from the other camp at FSU... talking about Miami history and rivalry
http://www.tomahawknation.com/2009/8/27/1004744/fsu-seminoles-vs-um-canes-college
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But if wrong, no harm, no foul... it was fun going down history lane!!!

Cat

Cat 5 Cane

Ohhh I should have said the both played DT and Joe became the NG in 90/91 while at State... 1987 thru 1991

Ungar

"The media are going to chop his Heisman Trophy off, drag him back to USC’s plantation and let new athletic director Pat Haden lash his legacy in front of Chicken George, Fiddler and Kizzy."

Are they talking about the NCAA or Dan Gilbert? If Jesse Jackson had said that, you know there would be a backlash. Gotta watch those slavery references.

Ungar

Q: Will any U fans die in Columbus if seen wearing a LeBron James Heat jersey at the game on 9/11? :)
A: I wouldn't wear one unless I had a death wish. But I'm sure somebody is going to try it out. Should be fun to watch the fight in the stands.

Walking out of the horseshoe, after a Canes win, wearing a LeBron jersey, Flashing the U, and shouting "Where is Terry Porter now?", there better be KEVLAR under that #6.

Let's hope we get to see that happen, and that the Cane in question gets to tell his grandchildren about it.

francis w

Cat 5 nice job of detective work, I know a PI that may be able to use someone with those skills -)
Fran

solarcane

The mysterious "fred"


cat 5 you ARE THE MAN!

I called back and checked it out again.

Remember I was talking to another guy about my kayak, and Henry was just making small talk, so like usual I missed most of it.

He said the Canes were close to his heart because he PLAYED them every year.
and Leon played against him most of the time.

He is good friends with Steve Walsh because they were recruited everywhere together and met many times from high school on. He knerw Craig through Steve.

He may be able to make the whitewater trip.

I'll get back over and do a little Canespace interview with him for an article about plying against the Team of the Decade.


Thanks catman!!

I'm back to work

DZ8

That WAS great work Cat5Cane!!!

That was like a little mystery riddle. Never a dull moment on The Space!

Cat 5 Cane

LOL... Just call me Sniff for short!

Canez1

Just got an internal memo that a dude in a Darth Vader getup robbed a bank in Long Island!!

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2010/07/22/2010-07-22_empire_strikes_bank_thats_no_lightsaber_vaders_carrying_in_li_stickup.html

Gangsta!!

GO CANEZ!!!!!

CGNC

By Opponent: Kyle Parker, Clemson, 10/24/09 (15 pass, 56 pass, 26 pass), Clemson 40-37 OT

UGHHHHH. We got beaten by the baseball player tsk, tsk tsk :\

SOUP

Five questions with Manny Navarro tonight at 7 PM! U gotta LOVE that guy...

UMike

SOUP..u get my stuff?..My email w/ stuff lol

Lurker

Mandingo

Ungar

LOL... Just call me Sniff for short!

Posted by: Cat 5 Cane | July 23, 2010 at 10:09 AM

So, if solar is Scratch, you guys could team up and be a new crimefighting team.

"Scratch and Sniff" - In this week's episode, Scratch remembers talking to a guy with a small head that runs a Miami Dolphins website named Fred. Watch the hilarity that ensues as they track the guy down to a hotel in Plantation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKyj1Zy1GR4&feature=related

Cat 5 Cane

Ohhh do I miss Hester.... Who we got in 2010? Who's got the after burner to bring it home, each and every time he touches the ball?

Benjamin... too small
Berry... too slow
MJ... too big
Storm... 212 lbs, I like
Lamar... 205 and right size
Clements... too light
LA... maybe, just maybe.

SOUP

Ungar...now THAT was funny! How did you find that?

Don't take it personally but I had to bump your articles back to Tuesday and Wedneday next week. I'll work on them over the weekend to get all the photos and videos right.

solarcane

A guy pulls up in front of your bank in a TIE fighter, you got trouble

canezilla

anybody going to the first practice?

solarcane

December 21, 1986

|Special to the News/Sun-Sentinel


Three Local Players Named To All-state In 5a
December 21, 1986|Special to the News/Sun-Sentinel

Three Palm Beach County players were named to the Class 5A All-State high school football team selected by the Florida Sports Writers Association.

Offensive lineman Henry Ostazewski of Santaluces was chosen to the second team, while offensive lineman Eric Miller of Palm Beach Gardens and linebacker Perry Balasis of Forest Hill were third-team choices.

HillViewCane

Manny I have a question for you lol. How do you feel about the FIU beat writer and his rant about the Herald and the disproportionate love UM gets compared to FIU. Disproportionate being ALL THE LOVE to How much for a b...

Since it has gone

http://deadspin.com/5594703/sportswriter-publicly-quits-salts-the-earth-in-his-wake

and the google cache

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://miamiherald.typepad.com/fiusports/2010/07/hfkjdshfdkjsfhd.html

SOUP

Hillview...read that link above and all I can say is: "OH MY!"

Ungar

I am a Rodney Carrington fan. As soon as I saw "fred", two songs came to mind, that one and this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1cjaheraq8&feature=related

Too goofy for words, you just gotta see it.

Don't worry about when, as long as it is before prctive starts up on 8/5. After that, nobody is gonna care about the offseason bonuses....

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