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411CANE formerly 404

9/11/10
Go Canes!

Old Skool

Slow dang it

411CANE formerly 404

Practice reports just mean we are that much closer to the real thing, and that makes it exciting!!!

Go Canes!!!

toledocane

can't wait for 9/11!!!

SOUP

411/404 getting it done, AGAIN! U gotta show up early and work harder if U wanna be a starter. U get hurt or show up late U ride the bench at Canespace.

I'm just sayin'...

Six

Sixth

Cav - you're going in circles about nothing, simply b/c it's almost as if you like to hear yourself talking

You talk about Boss this and Boss that. You talk about Chess and Checkers or whatever

You're ignoring the simple facts, you're basing more of your posts on what you feel b/c you're inhaling the orange/green punch and becoming more and more myopic with each sip

What is there to address about Ohio State losing to USC and Purdue? They lost. I already said that. Those were their only 2 losses for the entire season

Why don't you address why the Canes lost 4 games and how they did it as well then. Not to forget, 3 of those 4 were on the road. One of them was an outright ass beating up in Blacksburg - and yes, the Hokies played in the same exact amount of rain that the Canes did. What about losing to a UNC team that lost to UVA? What about losing to a Clemson team with a RSFRosh QB? What about losing to a team that was supposedly slower than the Canes in Wisky, who stomped a hole through the Canes? Ya, I was at the game as well - not sitting behind the bench up in the stands - I was standing 2 feet behind the damn bench and being able to hear everything that was being talked about & said, not only by the players, but by Lamar Thomas as well who was on the sidelines right next to me

Why don't you then say it was the tactics of the Canes during those 4 losses, and how they didn't exploit this or that - or - you could say that the other team did use certain tactics that helped them beat the Canes

And who the hell ever said that Ohio State had an incredible offense? I believe all that was said, that whether it was ugly or not, they still won. I can't even tell you how many times I've brought up that Ohio State fans, such as Kirk Herbstreit, were pissed b/c they felt they were holding Pryor back - and then they finally let him do some more and the result was the Rose Bowl. No one ever said they lit up the scoreboard against anyone. Ya, I did say that they beat down Wisky, but not b/c of their offense - I said that when one component of their team was taken out or wasn't doing well, the other components of their team stepped up .. namely their defense and special teams

You're going on basically speculation of how the OLine will do for the Canes, I'm going on just a little bit more than that by telling you what everyone else in the nation knows as well ... they have, once again, a pretty large number of returning starters, including their entire OLine

You want to talk Chess? How do you think the Canes DLine will do against an Ohio State OLine that returns all their starters, who are now 3 Seniors and 2 Juniors? We all know Allen Bailey is a beast. We've seen flashes from Vernon. Ojomo is my boy & if he's as tenacious as he was 2 years ago, then that will be fine. We know nothing of Dye. We've seen Robinson. We've seen Holmes, some Lewis, and Regis. So this is something that isn't based on speculation or "potential"

You ask how is Ohio State's DLine will do against the Canes OLine? You tell us, since you seem to basically know everything about it and it's of no concern to you. I pointed out Heyward, who is basically their Bailey. You tell us about the rest of their DLine, since I guess you watched all of their games last year b/c you tell us you did & how we don't know about it

You tell me then you have no concern about the other DB opposite of Brandon Harris - b/c you still haven't even mentioned it

I hope you have a direct line to Whipple in order to inform him of your Chess tactics that you have broken down from watching all of Ohio State's games last year and basically calling the rest of us out for having a Cokerite chickenshyt sky is falling mentality. That's pretty far from it - it's once again called, not underestimating your opponent, esp. when it's the 2nd game of the season in their house

I guess you think that only the Canes will have progressed from last year to this year, and no one else. No one is riding Pryor's sac as you said, people are just saying exactly what you're sqawking about with the Canes and Jacory - they're a year older, a year more experienced, therefore they're going to be better .. right? So I guess that isn't going to happen with Pryor at all. I guess that isn't going to happen with Ohio State at all. The reason I bring up all their returning starters, isn't just for the hell of it - let me ask you this & I guarantee this is true ...

If coming into this year, Ohio State had only 6 starters returning from both sides of the ball - 3 on Offense and 3 on Defense, you're telling me you wouldn't use that in your arsenal of trying to break down the game? Tell me you wouldn't - go ahead

Tell me you wouldn't say, "Ohio State has an entirely new offensive line with all their starters leaving .. they only have Pryor, and 2 other players on offense returning" - and use that as a reason why the Canes D will push them around. Same with Ohio State having only 3 starters returning on defense as well, and why Jacory and the boys won't light them up

And again, you still haven't talked about the Canes who were much bigger, faster and stronger in the Fiasco Bowl against Ohio State. As I said, it happens. Ohio State beat Miami that year, but got beaten down by UiF a few years later

Isn't that Chess? Didn't what Tressel and his team do to the Canes, considered pure tactics since they shouldn't have been able to out-man, out-speed, out-physical them? But yet, they did?

You can say whatever you want about what I've been posting on here, but it's a hell of a lot more realistic and even based upon the same exact argument you're bringing up about the Canes - but more so

So call me out and anyone else who sees my point clearly, as having a Cokerite chickenshyt mentality or whatever ... b/c that's pretty damn far from true

Everything to this point right now is a lot of speculation based upon certain things from last year. What do you think pre-season polls and rankings go by? I think it's safe to say they go by what went down the year before, who's coming back and what year they are and how much experience they have. Maybe that's why someone like Bama is pre-season #1, even though they lost some major players. Maybe that's why Ohio State is pre-season #2, even though you feel the Canes are going to go in there and stomp them - with the only reason it might not happen, being b/c it's in Columbus. Maybe that's why Miami is pre-season #13 and not in the Top 10 - with basically a majority of people's concern being the OLine

I'm not a huge fan of pre-season polls at all or pre-season rankings, but, they are a little above average judge of speculating on how a team is going to do b/c of the year before. Yes, there are exceptions, esp. when Michigan was ranked so high or Ole Miss as well, and they properly crapped the bed and dropped fast in the rankings ... but that doesn't really happen all the damn time

So like I said, go ahead and say whatever you want about me or others that agree with my breakdown ... but try and also step back from yourself as well and think about what you're really saying. Everyone is jacked about this year and how the Canes might do, but some are a little more realistic than others as well

Also, like 86 said, we know what you think about the game - and honestly, your opinion is slowly changing in your posts when it comes to breaking it down ... so give us a score then. I'm thinking it should be by a minimum of 2 TDs with the way you said the only reason it won't be a beat down is b/c of it being in Columbus

SOUP

STRAIGHT TO THE VAULT U GO:


We win 24-16 in Columbus.

Posted by: Zakkee | August 08, 2010 at 04:20 PM


UM 38 OSU 17

Posted by: 411CANE formerly 404 | August 08, 2010 at 04:22 PM


Hmmm....30-17

Posted by: Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer | August 08, 2010 at 04:24 PM

HersheyCane

Whoo hoooo.....good day. We got 4 vault entries.

THE SEASON IS UPON US!

CANES

SOUP

WHO GOT NEXT?

Sebastian

F$U dismiss WR Jarmon Fortson from the team

Prediction for the game

The U wins 24-23

411CANE formerly 404

Check out this blog if you have not already done so:

http://theufootball.com/

It's not "The Space", but they have some pretty sweet access!

Go Canes!

Six

Sebastian - I was going to go with a similar score to 24-23 as well

27-24 Canes


Zakkee

I shouldn't have done that! Promised myself I wouldn't make score predictions anymore.

Fortson was their best receiver next to Bert Reed. If he had glue hands... last season's FSU game may have been different (he dropped several passes; not just the last one).

Zakkee

Asante Cleveland sounds like Darth Vader.

BEERicane

Posted by: Six | August 08, 2010 at 05:28 PM

He re-posted it! LMAO!!! I'm loving this back-and-forth.

Why hasn't my UM 31 OSU 13 been vaulted?

I was the original proponent of a 17+ margin of victory. : )

Coach

I just converted a lifelong FSU fan who just got his masters degree from Notre Dame YESTERDAY to THE U family. lol
Does this make my fandom impressive? lol

The "U" is America's team

Allcanes.......Allday

orange 'n green in the vein

LMAO at predicting week 2 when week 1 is still three weeks away. So premature.

Ungar

"I'm with Six on this debate."

Me too!

Cav is always CAV. He would believe a blind man could negotiate I-95 in central Miami during rush hour if he wore ORANGE and GREEN.

Posted by: SOUP | August 07, 2010 at 09:56 PM

Have you BEEN on I-95 recently, it is a HERD of blind people out there, doing it every day.

There is a reason Cav is a Captain, becuase he is aprofessional at this.

Neither Six nor CO are saying anything all that different. Six is not saying we have no chance, just that the all-positive comments tend to neglect the abilities of the OSU team.

Look at it this way. 2010 Canes are < 2001 Canes, and 2010 Buckeyes are < 2001 Buckeyes. Since their last meeting went to OT, we can be pretty sure that it won't be a blowout either way.

However, those like me that express their doubts about this game, on the road, early in the season, with a new OL and weak LBs that still haven't proven they can cover a TE, are not being NEGATIVE, just being honest. We cannot just sweep this opponent under the rug until AFTER we show up as we did for GT and OU, and NOT as we did for VT, UNC, Wake, Clemson, and Wisconsin.

Go CANES!

orange 'n green in the vein

"I just converted a lifelong FSU fan who just got his masters degree from Notre Dame YESTERDAY to THE U family. lol
Does this make my fandom impressive? lol

Posted by: Coach | August 08, 2010 at 07:46 PM"

It's a MIRACLE!

Ungar

LMAO at predicting week 2 when week 1 is still three weeks away. So premature.

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | August 08, 2010 at 08:11 PM

Cmon, OGV, it is the first REAL game. FAMU is there for the halftime show and the warmups without the red jerseys on.

Just be glad we are discussing the game with any doubt in it one way or the other. When it was added, it didn't look good for us, so this is an improvement.

Ungar

I saw that someone claimed to be valuted.

Is that the opposite on convaluted?

I guess that means they are pretty straightforward....

orange 'n green in the vein

I actually think Cav is pretty even in his argument giving pretty equal weight to the two teams in question strengths and relative weaknesses. If anything he might be underestimating the home field advantage for overrated Sweatervest's team, but that advantage can be negated instantly by scoring early and holding a lead on the road.

orange 'n green in the vein

Ungar, four weeks until game 2 is too early to predict IMO, especially when you never know what might happen in game 1 in three weeks. Non-contact injuries happen all the time and other than that, nobody has any actual evidence to speak on how the 2010 edition of any program is going to play yet, so it's all blind speculation, my least favorite type, at this point.

411CANE formerly 404

LMAO at predicting week 2 when week 1 is still three weeks away. So premature.

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | August 08, 2010 at 08:11 PM

As long as it's us fans doing it, and not the players we should be fine.

WindyCane1

Jordan Futch practiced today. Things at the LB position are getting more interesting.

I like Futch, but I still prefer Buchannon and Holton covering the TEs.

Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer

Must see TV. Spoonerstreet's best Canes video. Looks like a movie trailer.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzKXtZj-l7s&hd=1

Old Skool

Rivals is saying Denzel Perryman is posting that he's ready to committ

shwarma

It's kook-aid vs. "show me" in this battle between Six and Capt O.

I personally side with Six, as we should not assume anything until we see it. It doesn't mean that when you say that you don't believe in the team. It doesn't mean a great season would surprise me, it just says, because we as fans say so, doesn't mean it will be so until this team shows us.

360Cane

It will all come down to blocking and coverage. And with Phipo protecting Jacory and Sheilds shutting down their WRs, this game is already won... Go Canes!!!


Posted by: 411CANE formerly 404 | August 08, 2010 at 04:19 PM

Whoop there it is ^^^^^^

Teams went at both these players as the season wore on. Big things coming in 2010.

Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer

Look at it this way. 2010 Canes are >>>>>>

Haha, I'm not sweeping anyone under the carpet. On the contrary, it is through tactical/strategic analysis that OSU can be dismantled. This is what Pete Carrol meant after they blew them out in 2008.

This is what I've been saying since my first post on the subject, as well as taking into account our weaknesses and how OSU will definitely attack them.

Our weaknesses??? Funny how you all never mention OSU's weaknesses. Listening to y'all they're the U 2001 version.

Pryor was an average QB last year who could scramble. He should improve but who knows how much given that system. Their OL didn't do much last year for running or passing protection. They did enough but only looked dominant against New Mexico and maybe Indiana.

Their DL returns a couple of starters but everyone else saw little or no action last year.

So how do the shortcomings line-up, Us against theirs, not even including tactics and schemes?

Come on y'all. Let's hear it, esp. since none of you answered my questions about their games last year and what impressed you so much, Ws or Ls.

But because I see exactly how and why we should dismantle them that y'all think I'm saying something so "optimistic". Optimistic is predicting a blowout just because we're the U. I'm telling exactly how we can dismantle these boys and embarass them in front of their home crowd, that will be a record-setting crowd.

This isn't optimism. I See it, largely because it's been done before, our offense has multiple weapons, a serious OC and a mature QB, and a stronger OL than last year's near record setting performance from J-12, including 35 sacks, 17 picks and an injury.

Now other than turnovers and field position, the X factors are:

1)How well our LBs have learned to sniff out fakes and cover the RB/TE going into the flat or wheel-routes. This was OSU's most effective play except for those fades to Posey. After that the most effective play was Pryor scrambling. If they haven't learned it'll be a long, tough game that could go either way. If they have learned, Pryor becomes very limited and very mistake prone and the stage for a blowout will be set. I will be stunned if they and the DEs don't snuff that shat out at the LOS.

2)How hyped OSU -fans and players- will be and how well prepared they'll be for our offense? The Shoe will be loud but we've seen that before, maybe not that loud but it won't be too unusual. This is difficult to measure because we'll have so many weapons OSU hasn't seen.

Otherwise, the match-ups are clear. That ain't optimist boys and girls. That's damn near calculus.

360Cane

So Emmitt just gave a shot out to Gayturd Nation, Oscar and Foley. He did even play under them. Recruiting ploy for some stupid PR bullshockalocka.

360Cane

^^^didn't^^^

Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer

OGV, yeah the home field might matter more because they'll be playing Us and they do play much tougher at home than on the road.

Still, if USC had J-12 and Whipple last year it would've been another route. haha USC's OC didn't figure out how to attack them until the last drive of the game, which was a masterpiece after the first play. Before that he went about it all wrong, esp. with a frosh QB.

I don't think the speculation is blind at all. We can chart growth predictions from one year to the next based on past Canes as well as other teams. Last year was like 1999. We have almost all the ingredients for this year to be like 2000, maybe even 2001 on offense.

And we can compare the talent this year with what we had last year.

Now HOW good we will be no one knows at this point. But it's not a great leap to know we'll definitely be better at every position, except TE, yes, even MLB.

After watching our games I honestly would think hard about taking K-Rob over Sharpton. I'm dead serious. Other than setting up the D, Sharpton was a pure liability unless he was blitzing. He was ALWAYS out of place, going for fakes or coming too early, too late to a play. The only time he wasn't was when Shannon told him watch for the slant against Duke, the highlight of his entire career.

It was sickening to watch time and time again.

360Cane

Florida State has dismissed junior receiver Jarmon Fortson from the football team, coach Jimbo Fisher confirmed on Sunday.

"He has been dismissed for a violation of team rules," Fisher said. "We wish him the best in everything he does. We love him."

Sources close to the situation told ESPN.com that Fortson was dismissed for multiple failed drug tests.

Fortson could not be immediately reached for comment Sunday.

"He's a very good player," Fisher said. "As he became more consistent he became a good player."

Fortson, a junior from Hurtsboro, Ala., was the Seminoles' third-leading receiver last season, finishing with 45 catches for 610 yards with four touchdowns. He was expected to be one of quarterback Christian Ponder's biggest weapons this coming season.

Sophomore Rodney Smith probably will take Fortson's spot on the depth chart although he had only one catch last season.

"I think he's ready for it," Fisher said. "He's had some good practices."

It is the second loss of an expected impact starter for Florida State, which is starting its first season under Fisher following the retirement of Bobby Bowden.

Last month, linebacker Nigel Carr was arrested on five criminal charges, including two felonies. Carr, who was named the team's most dependable linebacker during the spring, has been indefinitely suspended from the team.

Mark Schlabach is a college football reporter for ESPN.com. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer

I personally side with Six, as we should not assume anything until we see it. It doesn't mean that when you say that you don't believe in the team. It doesn't mean a great season would surprise me, it just says, because we as fans say so, doesn't mean it will be so until this team shows us.

Posted by: shwarma | August 08, 2010 at 09:19 PM

>>>>>>

That's fine with me but if we have something to show so does OSU.

Matter fact, they will have more questions to answer from Us than we will from them.

drtycane

anyone have notes from today's practice?
thx
orange on one side green on the other...

SOUP

Why hasn't my UM 31 OSU 13 been vaulted?

I was the original proponent of a 17+ margin of victory. : )

Posted by: BEERicane | August 08, 2010 at 07:41 PM

OK, OK U got it. Geeze U people...

SOUP

No FSWho scores please just OSU for now. Thanks!

SOUP

I personally side with Six, as we should not assume anything until we see it. It doesn't mean that when you say that you don't believe in the team. It doesn't mean a great season would surprise me, it just says, because we as fans say so, doesn't mean it will be so until this team shows us.

Posted by: shwarma | August 08, 2010 at 09:19 PM

SMART guy right there.

SOUP

Otherwise, the match-ups are clear. That ain't optimist boys and girls. That's damn near calculus.

Posted by: Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer | August 08, 2010 at 09:45 PM

I can see that math must NOT have been your best subject?

411CANE formerly 404

2)How hyped OSU -fans and players- will be and how well prepared they'll be for our offense? The Shoe will be loud but we've seen that before, maybe not that loud but it won't be too unusual. This is difficult to measure because we'll have so many weapons OSU hasn't seen.

Otherwise, the match-ups are clear. That ain't optimist boys and girls. That's damn near calculus.

Posted by: Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer | August 08, 2010 at 09:45 PM

Lane stadium last year was the loudest stadium and most vocal fans I've ever experienced... We saw how that went, hopefully it was a learning experience...


drtycane

any news on latwan anderson?

SOUP

From www.hurricanesports.com:

The University of Miami football team held its fourth practice of fall camp Sunday afternoon, with a steady rain falling throughout most of the two-hour session on the Greentree Practice Fields.

The Hurricanes worked in shells for the second straight day of camp and will move to full pads Monday as the `Canes move deeper into August.

Hump Day
Head coach Randy Shannon said that practice No. 4 would be, "hump day", as in the day when fatigue, both mentally and physically, will begin to appear. It's also a day where the leadership, tenacity and toughness of the players begin to shine through.

So, it is certainly significant that Shannon described the session as possibly the best of the camp. He praised the focus and energy level of the players.

Rain a Welcome Distraction
There was a steady downpour of rain throughout the session.

"It's a distraction," said Shannon. "We welcome it, because the players need to learn how to deal with distractions."

While the `Canes worked on very damp fields, it was not a sloppy surface by any means. During two hours of practice, this author did not see one player slip on the field.

Jones Returning to Lead Team in Sunday Night Chapel
University of Miami alum Daryl Jones (1997-01) will return to the Coral Gables campus tonight to lead a team chapel. The former UM receiver was a key member of the 2001 National Championship team.

"Daryl was a special player in Miami history and we embrace any opportunity to welcome back former Hurricane greats," said Shannon. "He will talk to the team about living your life with integrity and character."

After his UM days, Jones went on to play with the New York Giants, Chicago Bears and Minnesota Vikings and is registered by NFL.com as having four years experience.

Fig Fitting in at Right Tackle
After spending the majority of his collegiate career at guard, senior Joel Figueroa has made the move to right tackle in camp and the transition has gone as smoothly as possible early in camp. Figueroa stood out among the offensive linemen on Sunday, consistently holding his ground and keeping oncoming defenders out of the backfield.

Figueroa not only impressed in 11-on-11 action, but his leadership and work ethic are evident in position drills run by offensive line coach Jeff Stoutland.

Dye Quietly Impressing
With all the talent that the University of Miami has along the defensive line, a sometimes forgotten name in the mix is redshirt freshman Dyron Dye. After missing the entire 2009 season with an injury, Dye appears to be healthy and motivated early in camp.

On Sunday, he made big play after big play. He recorded a sack, three tackles for a loss and a couple more quarterback hurries, consistently getting in the backfield and creating havoc.

Offensive Highlights
- Freshman connection: Stephen Morris connected with Allen Hurns on a pair of long passing plays.
- Storm Johnson's biggest gain of the afternoon - a 25-yard run - came as a result of a big block by freshman Seantrel Henderson.
- Lamar Miller broke off a pair of long runs.
- Jacory Harris hooked up with Leonard Hankerson on a number of occasions in 7-on-7 action. - Asante Cleveland stood out among the tight ends.

Defensive Highlights
- Colin McCarthy, DeMarcus Van Dyke, Devont'a Davis and Sean Spence all recorded interceptions. - Spence also had a big hit on Mike James and recorded a tackle for a loss in red zone work.
- Ryan Hill led all defensive backs in pass break-ups.
- Curtis Porter recovered a fumbled snap.
- Josh Holmes got in the backfield and picked up a sack in 11-on-11 work.


NFL Roll Call
Scouts from the Carolina Panthers, Chicago Bears, Kansas City Chiefs and Philadelphia Eagles were in attendance at today's practice.

The `Canes will return to Greentree Monday morning for their fifth practice of fall camp.

Hurri'

Heart says: 30-20 UM

Head says: 31-20 OSU

Put me down for the head as of right now, but remember, I called for OU to beat Miami last year, and that worked out in our favor.......

And for what its worth, I think that man for man, Pitt has a more talented team than OSU.

drtycane

is it just me or does it seem like offensively and defensively things sound good thus far in camp? big things are happening on both sides of the ball, some soph are stepping up, and things sound more laid back...
last yr this time things sounded 1-sided, jocking A.B., scrutinizing our 2ndary.

..i am so hyped and we have not even played yet....

drtycane

just saw tebow using his shakeweight on an infomercial....thats horrible!!!

Six

Cav - you and I have the exact same thought on Pryor on keeping him in that pocket and making him pass the ball, that's one of the first things I pointed out the Canes need to do

You and I both know that the Canes have generally had problems with covering the TE from various teams ... I damn near wanted to run onto the playing field from the sidelines when the Wisky TEs were just finding huge open gaping holes in the defense, b/c it was happening 40 feet right in front of me, with me yelling and pointing at the TEs

No reason in hell should an opposing TE drop as many yards on the Canes as the Wisky ones did .. and I'm sure everyone remembers what the UVA TEs did to the Canes in Shannon's first year


That OLine for Ohio State last year opened up holes enough to be ranked:

- 18th in the nation, with 2,540 yards rushing .... 24 sacks allowed (57th in the nation)

- Miami was 70th in the nation, with 1,794 yards rushing .... 35 sacks allowed (100th in the nation)

That same unit for Ohio State returns. 3 new guys for Miami are coming in. Will they give up 35 sacks? I damn sure hope not, but some of it as well could rely on Jacory just getting rid of it or the pass protection by the RB

They won 11 games. Even with the so-so talent that people are poo-pooing on & conservative schemes with a mediocre passing QB in Pryor - they still pulled off 11 wins. It's not that people are impressed by anything they did - it's just a fact that they won 11 games and only lost 2. They must be doing something right, and they just gained a year of experience heading into this year ..... just like the Canes did

When did anyone really blow them up to 2001 Canes status? How many times was it said that they just won, even if it was ugly?

I already put out there that they're going to have 2 new safeties. They're going to have a new LB, just like the Canes.

Are their RBs going to be a weakness? No. Neither are the Canes

Is their QB going to be a weakness? Probably not. Neither is Jacory

Is their OLine going to be a weakness? Most likely not. Everyone knows everyone else's opinion on the Canes OLine on here

Is their DLine going to be a weakness? They lost some players last year, no doubt, but still have 2 Seniors coming back on that line who were starters. The Canes DLine should hopefully be better with Petri and some bodies to shuffle in and out - then again, Ohio State has plenty of depth on the DLine as well

Are their LBs going to be a weakness? Homan and Rolle are both Seniors, returning starters and Homan had some nice stats last year ... just like usually 1 Ohio State LB always has. They're going to have a new LB out there - as said earlier. The Canes are solid with CMac and Spence, but the wildcard is obviously the MLB

If anything, Ohio State's Safeties are their weakness - their DBs are both returning Seniors. We all know about VTelemaque, Brandon Harris, Ray Ray and who knows about the other DB spot.


If it comes down to field position, and that's most likely an OLine and Special Teams battle - how can you not give the slight edge to Ohio State's OLine over the Canes? The stats are clearly there that I posted

They gave up a hell of lot less sacks and also gained more yards on the ground. That's what Ohio State does - they run it and play good D, that's their mantra

Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer

I can see that math must NOT have been your best subject?
Posted by: SOUP | August 08, 2010 at 10:15 PM

>>>>>>

F(x) bro'. Between this and Trig you can figure out damn near anything involving probabilities.

Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer

If it comes down to field position, and that's most likely an OLine and Special Teams battle - how can you not give the slight edge to Ohio State's OLine over the Canes? The stats are clearly there that I posted

They gave up a hell of lot less sacks and also gained more yards on the ground. That's what Ohio State does - they run it and play good D, that's their mantra

Posted by: Six | August 08, 2010 at 10:49 PM

>>>>>>

Because they didn't do much last year running the ball other than Pryor scrambling.

Since you like to talk about how badly we played against Wisky, let's talk about how incredible that OL was against them...

A whopping 87 rushing and a whopping 97 yards passing.

So tell me again why OSU OL is supposed to be so good other than the hype you've been reading and believing?

Tell me why THEY don't have as much or more to prove than our OL?

Every time you refer to facts with them, they don't impress.

Next question....

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