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October 07, 2010

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Ungar

ungar,
I guess you will challenge the authenticity of this picture as well huh?


http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj201/solarcane/marbss.jpg

Posted by: solarcane | October 07, 2010 at 06:08 PM

LOL!

Ungar

2005-2009, I dunno, SIX?


Posted by: Ungar | October 07, 2010 at 04:36 PM

INCORRECT. U are under...

Posted by: SOUP | October 07, 2010 at 04:43 PM

Soooo, what's the answer?

Nobody else is guessing, but I figure I am close....

SJMPARMAN

I am guessing 12. And yes that is my final answer.

SJMPARMAN

Ok, I cheated and looked up the 2005 through 2009 seasons on the NCAA stats web site. It was way too interesting. Here are our intercenption totals for each year. 2005 - 14, 2006 - 12, 2007 - 13, 2008 - 4, and 2009 - 9.

Now, if you promise you will NOT cheat, here is a really interesting question. We all know Jacory threw 17 picks last year.

Again, without looking it up, here is your multiple choice question. How many yards did opponents return the interceptions?

a. 150-225 yards.
b. 225-300 yards
c. 300-375 yards
d. 375-450 yards
e. 450-525 yards.

Miami had 9 picks last year. How many yards did Miami return its interceptions.

a. 50-75 yards.
b. 75-100 yards.
c. 100-150 yards.
d. 150-200 yards.
e. 200-250 yards.

solarcane

c

b

solarcane

SJ
I forgot about the dude at UNC getting 171 in one game so my first guess c will end up being too low.

WindyCane1

I am going out on a limb to say that Jacory will cut down on his INTs for the rest of the season. I think the coaches will have him more focused on improving his game rather than building his "brand" on twitter.

I think (hope)you will see a tremendous growth in Jacory over the season as the running game improves, the players learn the offense, their timing improves and the WRs get more in sync with him.

This will be one of several keys to the improvement we will see in the Canes over the course of the season.

NativeCane

MH- BH

``Watching Sean Taylor intercept the ball in the rain and running it back for a touchdown -- that's an image that a lot of us as kids saw and hoped that one day we'd be in that position to make those plays,'' Harris said. ``This is one of those games that guys want to step up and be remembered.''

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/10/08/1863049/cornerback-brandon-harris-has.html#ixzz11lPCj0GS

Jacory

He is a Rubik's Cube of a quarterback: ingenious and maddening.

The question is, have we seen the best of Harris? Should we settle in for more bonanza-or-bust deep throws? Should we practice holding our breath?

No, no and yes. Harris is representative of a team that is like a harried master chef: talented but messy. Twelve penalties for 105 yards against Clemson, 35 for 287 in four games. Harris has thrown eight interceptions since the Florida A&M opener. UM makes mistakes -- including dropped passes -- it should not make with its core of junior and senior stars. Fortunately, the defense has come to the rescue.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/10/08/1862989/qb-harris-struggles-to-put-pieces.html#ixzz11lPqs9mt

Manny

UM injury report for Florida State

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2010/10/um-injury-report-for-florida-state.html

411

Harris on Harris:

"He still feels really confident in his arm. He knows he made a bad read or two. Maybe there was a little miscommunication. Those are minor things you can correct. He's still a great quarterback and he knows he has the team behind him."

SOUP

I am guessing 12. And yes that is my final answer.

Posted by: SJMPARMAN | October 08, 2010 at 12:05 AM

U are correct, sort of. The NCAA site said 12, the ACC site said 13. But still good work and U get the point.

2000-2004 = 50 non-offensive TDs.

2005-2009 = 13 non offensive TDs

That is SHOCKING!

SOUP

I am going out on a limb to say that Jacory will cut down on his INTs for the rest of the season. I think the coaches will have him more focused on improving his game rather than building his "brand" on twitter.

Posted by: WindyCane1 | October 08, 2010 at 04:10 AM

I agree 100%.

SOUP

SJ: D and C

NativeCane

SS- Rivalry (Love this story)

"Prime Time tells Mike, 'Hey man, the game is over. Why are you still running these routes so hard?' '' Harris recalled. "And Mike said, ''cause I'm a Miami Hurricane. We never give up.' "

A few plays later, the 'Canes scored. In the fourth quarter, Irvin scored two touchdowns. Now trailing, the 'Noles scored with 48 seconds left. Down one, they went for two.

Danny McManus' pass intended for Pat Carter was knocked down by Bubba McDowell -- Miami 26, FSU 25.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/um-hurricanes/fl-um-fsu-past-players-1008-20101007,0,7531859.story

Shannon

The Miami-Florida State rivalry has been a series that has seen games determined by numerous missed kicks, muffed snaps and other details that can be taken for granted.

There have been seven one-point games, with Miami being fortunate enough to be 7-0 in those games.

With that in mind, UM coach Randy Shannon has been stressing to his team all week the importance of fixing and tuning up the little problems.

Shannon believes the team with the fewest flaws will win the 55th matchup between the Hurricanes and the Seminoles.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/um-hurricanes/fl-miami-football-news-1008-20101007,0,3642238.story

Recruiting

That South Florida is football hotbed is nothing new. Nor is the fact that Florida State recruits the area heavily. But what is new is that the Seminoles are having renewed success recruiting in South Florida. Under first-year coach Jimbo Fisher, Florida State has seemed to have placed a renewed emphasis on recruiting the Miami area.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/um-hurricanes/os-florida-state-recruiting-miami-20101006,0,7108789.story

Writer predictions

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/um-hurricanes/sfl-miami-hurricanes-fsu-um-predictions-100910,0,6019981.htmlstory

Herbie

"I really did not think in this equation that Jacory Harris would continue to throw picks."

http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports/dolphins/joerose/2010/10/herbstreit_um_front_seven_pote.html

Steve- Greg Reid: Just keeps talking

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_college_hurricanes/2010/10/reid-not-scared.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+sports%2Fumweblog+%28UM+Hurricanes+%7C+Sun-Sentinel+Blogs%29

NativeCane

PBP

If you're buying a ticket and making a trip to one college football game somewhere in America each year, Miami vs. Florida State should be the one.

Never mind that the series doesn't have quite the sizzle of old. The standard these two programs set from 1987-93, when both teams were consistently ranked in the top 10 at the time of their meeting, is fairly ridiculous and will not be repeated.

Doesn't take a poll, though, to vault the Hurricanes and Seminoles into the national spotlight. The major networks long have loved this rivalry for its close and crazy finishes, and for an impressive pattern of road-team victories that demonstrates just how little one team intimidates the other.

That's why the game is ABC's prime-time showcase event Saturday night, with kickoff at 8 p.m.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/hurricanes/commentary-forget-the-polls-university-of-miami-vs-959589.html

Benji

A junior receiver and punt returner by way of Glades Central, Benjamin has enjoyed the two best games of his career against the Seminoles.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/hurricanes/miami-hurricanes-travis-benjamin-has-his-best-days-959663.html

NativeCane

CFN- More predictions

http://cfn.scout.com/2/1009591.html

NativeCane

Hey spacers, thanks for the atta-boys!

Go Canes!!!

NativeCane

Yeah, Native, beat that! 8-)

Posted by: Ungar | October 07, 2010 at 04:42 PM

Ungar, you are still one of the funniest guys I know even with 50% of your material tied behind your back ha.

Ungar

Native, my occassional joke cannot compete with your thorough links and summaries.

I concede the title to you, and remember, I tried doing your stuff for two days, so i speak from personal experience.

YOU ARE THE MAN. SERIOUSLY.

Canestruck

31-27 Canes

_HM_

throw out the records!

for those that havent seen. HD FocuS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8MrKqVT0-4

myndraize

I hope jacory learns to read that safety.

Bad Bart

I look forward to this game every year....Go "Canes!!!

solarcane

"I am going out on a limb to say that Jacory will cut down on his INTs for the rest of the season."

Windy he certainly should be able to cut his picks down by the second half of his Junior year, anybody else would have been benched by now.
It's ridiculous really, when you think how long he has been quarterbacking.
If he had competition for his position he would be more responsible.

Let's see

He's too young.
No that didn't work.

His thumb is sore.
Nope that wasn't the problem.

His receivers run the wrong routes. Sometimes but really not as much as Shannon wants you to believe.

Whipples offense is geared for a guy that is a professional qb that plays in the NFL.
A guy that loses hundreds of thousands of dollars with each pick.

The consequence to Jacory for a pick, zero.
He isn't going to get benched.

Reduce the razza-ma-tazz down to things Jacory and his receivers can execute and the picks go way down.

Jacory has nothing to lose personally by throwing picks.
He gets a do over from his defense several times a game.

It's almost comical the way we say Jacory should be getting better by the second half of his junior year at quarterback.

He should have been getting better by the second half of his sophomore year, or the next guy should have gotten a shot... if we had the next guy.

Bottom line is we have recruited a half a dozen crappy qbs in a row with Jacory being the exception in the bunch by a mile.
He is a little better than average QB playing on a team that is getting better and better regardless of how he plays.

SJMPARMAN

I'll go ahead and give the answer now since there have been several posts since I asked the question.

In 2009, opponents intercepted 17 passes and returned the ball a whopping 501 yards! So the correct answer to question 1 was (e)

In 2009, we intercepted 9 passes and had 89 return yards off the interceptions. So the correct answer was (b).

Opponents had a net advantage of 412 yards of what yardage they returned interceptions for versus our return yardage.

DallasTX Cane

"I am going out on a limb to say that Jacory will cut down on his INTs for the rest of the season."

Playing the Dukes of the conference at home should increase ALL the good offensive numbers and decrease the bad, like INTs.

solar - I feel for the guys that had to play during the "fall" of the empire, even if they werent good. kyle might have had a decent chance if he played under RS, with the talent Randy's recruited, and been coached by Whip. Looking back at the OCs and guys we had playing O during his time, the guy never had a chance. That being said, the most glaring failure of QB U since the Dorsey Era is the position of QB.

DallasTX Cane

"In 2009, opponents intercepted 17 passes and returned the ball a whopping 501 yards! So the correct answer to question 1 was (e)

In 2009, we intercepted 9 passes and had 89 return yards off the interceptions. So the correct answer was (b)."

"Jacory has nothing to lose personally by throwing picks."

//

We should play Bosher on the O - he never misses a tackle.

Old Skool

SJM
Wow interesting factoid

Ungar

DTX, I felt more for the guys that played during probation, but I honor them for their loyalty even more. I mean, those guys knew in advance that their careers here were going to suck, but they wanted to play for the U.

The members of the Coker 2002-2005 group that came here because it was the flavor of the month, and expected titles and accolades without earning it, and then transferred when the going got tough, I don't feel for them.

But I agree that we need to get another QB U quality QB like Kelly/Kosar/Walsh/Dorsey in here.

Testaverde/Toretta/Erickson? Not so much. I want brains and strength over just a gunslinger. Yeah, they win Heisman Trophies, and maybe even a title along the way, but the others were LEADERS out there.

Just my opinion....

pb

Reduce the razza-ma-tazz down to things Jacory and his receivers can execute and the picks go way down.

Posted by: solarcane | October 08, 2010 at 10:48 AM


What up Solar.


The first part of this is the one thing I am sure will not happen. Whip is not going to change the downfield pass mentality with the playmakers he has.

He will chew his QB and the WR out, then call the same type of play the next series.

Whether Jacory matures enough to cut down on the picks is what remains to be seen.

BahamaCane

I hope jacory learns to read that safety.

Posted by: myndraize | October 08, 2010 at 10:37 AM
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There are only 2 issues with J-12 that i have and those are his ability to read the secondary (ie,that safty) and putting some zip on the ball.

Those things are fixable and there is still enough time for him to figure those things out. But i just hope Herbstret is wrong in his analysis of J-12 just being pick prone.

GO Canes!

mi@mic@ne

Bingo and Cigarettes .... Cigarettes and Bingo... Bingo and Cigarettes ... Cigarettes and Bingo.....hehe

DallasTX Cane

Posted by: Ungar | October 08, 2010 at 11:40 AM

Good point Ungar. I wasn't really referring to all the guys during Cokers Last Days, just mainly to KW. And to Kirby (Bless his soul) who sucked but tried.

The guys that came DURING probation were the foundation for the greatness of the early 00s.

Ohio_Cane

I'm going against history and sticking with my 38-17 prediction!

GO CANES!!

Ohio_Cane

Also, sad story - http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5662119&campaign=rss&source=twitter&ex_cid=Twitter_espn_5662119

Albert Haynesworth's brother killed in car crash last night.

Ungar

http://www.canesportmagazine.com/cane-central/2009-team-stats.html

This site says it was 17 INTs for 447 yards, not 501. But your point is still valid.

412 yards lost there, or even 358, is too many.

11 to 22 behind on first down by penalty, that's 44 extra plays to the other team gifted by either the refs or the players. 122 yards extra on 25 extra penalties in addition to that, can wear out a defense.

Then you have the 11 extra sacks, for an extra 59 yards lost.

358 + 122 + 59 = 539 extra yards against on average weaker teams. Gifting them an extra first down and an extra 40 something yards per game. Not a big deal against FAMU, but a big deal against the OSU's of the world.

OSU on those three stats?
Penalties 34 extra yards
1 extra first down by penalty.
INTs 124 extra yards
1 extra sack for 12 extra yards.

170 extra yards, and an extra set of downs in the one game we lost.

Time for the INTs and penalties to get looked at, since we are finally are ahead on sacks, 17-121 yards to 7-64 yards.

THE MAN

Interesting story for you guys... So I got diagnosed with torn labrum in my left shoulder this morning, the same injury that Jacory "doesn't" have. I can tell you first hand that he can play through the pain this year with a cortisone shot every week. The bad thing is he can't lift any weights over his head so that could hamper his "muscular development." If he truly has this he will get surgery in the off season. He should be able to play with this injury without it affecting his throwing abilities. Just a tidbit for you guys...

CGNC

Looking back at the OCs and guys we had playing O during his time, the guy never had a chance. That being said, the most glaring failure of QB U since the Dorsey Era is the position of QB.

Posted by: DallasTX Cane | October 08, 2010 at 11:23 AM

Yeah I have wondered the same thing. Although his getting sacked 9 times against FSU caused some damage......

CGNC

The Man- sorry for your injury - thanks for the info

DZ8

j.w.

Thank you for the recomendation on the book "We Own This Game". Exactly what I was looking for except it was Pop Warner as opposed to the high schools. Even so it gave me great back ground on the area.

It is pretty sad when you hear about parents & coaches acting out like that at childrens games. Gunshots going off and such.

That one guy had a great story about THE GAME up in Jacksonville between the whites and blacks.
I wonder who is Diamond Plesss' real father?

Anyways, thanks again.

UMike

with all these wonderful people on Canespace..how come there cant be a lawyer in florida!!!! lol

darCANEgel

Don't look now, but Bianchi is picking the Canes (as is seemingly everyone else in the world). >

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_bianchi/2010/10/florida-state-miami-rivalry-jimbo-fisher-randy-shannon.html#comments

---
The interesting point about this article is the name of one of the blobbers who commented on it:

"FSU (2) + UF (3) = UM (5)

gators and noles will forever argue about who’s #2 in FL."

Reply Posted by: THE TRUTH | Friday, October 8, 2010 at 9:43 AM

hmmmm...
---

CANES, baaby

CGNC

So was this placed there to motivate the Seminoles or by a Canes fan?

http://blogs.themiamihurricane.com/index.php/2010/10/04/we-have-a-spy-behind-enemy-lines?blog=24

Ungar

with all these wonderful people on Canespace..how come there cant be a lawyer in florida!!!! lol

Posted by: UMike | October 08, 2010 at 01:25 PM

Wonderful people usually don't become lawyers, I guess. We have TOO MANY lawyers in Florida based on the Yellow Pages.

Since my sons are talking about opening a law firm together as brothers, I might have to change that opinion in another 15 years or so....

--- The following I made up for my 50% ---
In the Garden of Eden, Eve was approached by the first Saleman, Satan, and talked into getting something she didn't need for more than she could afford.

That's right, buying an apple for the cost of her life.

When God caught the Salesman, his punishment was that he took his legs off, gave him frightful scales, and turned him into a Lawyer.

On the plus side, the Lawyer was hired on retainer and got the execution for Adam and Eve reduced to a life sentence, and wrote up a contract that made married couples jointly liable from then on, and made Adam and Eve promise to keep feeding future Lawyers. That is what is now known as Original Sin.

-----

(To any Lawyers on here, it's just a joke, I don't REALLY think you are decended from Satan) Or Do I? 8-)

DZ8

So my guy in Vegas didn't get a chance to make the Nebraska pick for me, which I would've won (I didn't realize it was a Thursday night game, some pro I am huh?).

I will replace that game with USC+7 over Stanford.

(Also have Clemson and Florida.)

the "U" is America's team

Canes 37
FSU 20

solarcane

"Wonderful people usually don't become lawyers, "

LMAOx2!!!

DTX,

I wasn't really including Kyle Wright and Kirby in the list of crappy QBs
I was thinking about the latest batch of underachievers.

Yes I believe guys like Steve Walsh and Dorsey are much more dangerous when the chips are down. They were two of the best leaders of teams full of talented egomaniacs I can remember.
They not only drove their teams down the field, they knew how to get the best out of super stars at the same time.


Jacory is more exciting to watch because he's like holding a lit firecracker in your hand.

Pb,
Hey brudd,
you are probably right.
Whipple's ego won't let him modify the offense to take advantage of the best running back combo we have had in a long long time.
He thinks a skinny 19 yr old kid will make the same throws a 28 yr old man can.

He may get it some day, but he will be long gone from Miami when it dawns on him.



DallasTX Cane

Posted by: CGNC | October 08, 2010 at 01:18 PM

Great minds...

Ungar

Some of the best quotes from the best series in college football history. Only posting it because they put this one up late.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/um-hurricanes/fl-um-fsu-quotes-1010-20101008,0,401200.story

I'm out for now, Go Canes!

DallasTX Cane

Posted by: Ungar | October 08, 2010 at 01:57 PM

LMAO. Good one Ungar.

Makes me think of Chris Rock's mosquito in Bee Movie (very mediocre show)..."What, you're a lawyer now?"..."I was already an irratating bloodsucker, all I needed was a briefcase"

CGNC

DTC! LOL. 9 sacks in one game! Must be some kind of record. Jeepahs.......

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