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November 29, 2010

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raizecane

RIP - Leslie Nielsen

SOUP

Comments are now back to the previous order (oldest first, newest last).

I kept the 100 comments per page feature which will make this MUCH better.

SOUP

RIP - Leslie Nielsen

Posted by: raizecane | November 29, 2010 at 09:42 AM

"Surely U must be kidding? I am not kidding and please, don't call me Shirley."

One of the greatest lines ever!

RIP Mr. Neilsen...

SOUP

I rooted for Shannon. I admit it. The greatest misconception most sports fans have of sports journalists is that we wish ill of the local teams or coaches. It isn't true.

We prefer to write about good stuff, about happy, about wins and champions.

I rooted for Shannon beyond that, though. Some of it was my knowing him since he was an undersized, overachieving linebacker for the Canes in the '80s, but most of it was simply hoping a native son, born and raised in Miami, would succeed in his beloved backyard.


Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/11/28/1947770/shannon-leaves-um-with-a-strong.html#ixzz16gKIUJTg

dj moonbat

Well, I always knew that Randy knew -- better than anybody -- what made 'Canes football tick. I guess what I forgot is that there are some people who Can Do, but Can't Teach. Those kids on the field, with a few exceptions, just never seemed to develop that Miami killer instinct.

So Shannon had to go.

Best of luck, Randy. You were a class act, doomed to be misunderstood because of the very same isolated and tough persona that got you through Miami's mean streets.

DZ8

Good post dj moonbat.

Lou of M

All the blame should not go on randy.. I love how money isnt an matter now that we need to find a new head coach. This univ needs to stop being cheap and put more money into the Fb program. Their is a saying in spanish that goes.. lo barato sale caro. basically what ever you buy cheap comes out expensive at the end. i hope they pay the head coach and the staff he needs to make this u run.

SOUP

FROM THE VAULT:

Whenever you're inclined to doubt, just ask yourself: "Who knows more about what makes 'Canes football tick -- me, or Randy Shannon?" That should make you feel better.

Posted by: dj moonbat | June 14, 2007 at 15:44

SOUP

There is a saying in Spanish that goes..."lo barato sale caro." Basically what ever you buy cheap comes out expensive at the end. I hope they pay the head coach and the staff he needs to make this U run.

Posted by: Lou of M | November 29, 2010 at 09:55 AM

Growing up in Miami and being married to a Cuban woman I have heard this saying MANY times. More often than not it turns out to be true.

The second part of your comment is more telling though. It's not just the $3 million for the Head Coach, it's another $3 million for assistant coaches and another $4 million for a larger recruiting budget and better/newer facilities on campus.

As Six will tell U Miami needs a F/T recruiting coordinator at $250K/year like most other big time programs, not a P/T assistant trying to do both jobs.

It is a $10 million dollar total makeover project per year, not just $3 Million for the lead dog.

Bottom Line? U get what U pay for.

Bottom Line? U can pay me now, or U can pay me later.

But either way U are gonna pay me!

canes

K

CGNC

Glad the blog is running smoothly again LOL.

dj moonbat

As Six will tell U Miami needs a F/T recruiting coordinator at $250K/year like most other big time programs, not a P/T assistant trying to do both jobs.

Posted by: SOUP | November 29, 2010 at 10:04 AM


It's tough for me to find much fault with Miami's recruiting, though. Compare the kids on the field now vs. the ones Clappy brought in, fergawdsake.

The real problem is that by pushing recruiting onto your coaching staff, the COACHING suffers. If Randy and his staff had been able to push recruiting to the periphery, and focus on getting the existing 'Canes "coached up," maybe things would have been better.

But I'm starting to think not. Randy, unlike a lot of 'Canes of the past, didn't seem to have much bravado. He just wanted to be the best. It's tough to convince a bunch of 18 year old boys that they should become badasses -- but not to revel in it, but instead focus on becoming that much MORE of a badass.

That's what the Twitter thing was all about, I think: Randy trying to communicate to these dopes that the "Cane thing" is not about being a celebrity in a pimp suit; it's about being the BEST. He just went about it all wrong.

Why? Because he's trapped inside his own experience, like just about everybody else.

CGNC

Good morning! what is the "strong chatter" today?

Posted by: CGNC | November 29, 2010 at 08:56 AM

Word on the skreet is that a cold front is expected on Wednesday. Temperatures expected to drop overnight and into Thursday, wind shifting to the NW.

Posted by: SOUP | November 29, 2010 at 09:02 AM

LOL! Good to know. Tonight here it will be in the 20's

IraqiCane

New Manny...http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2010/11/making-sense-of-gruden-coaching-search.html

Go Canes

SOUP

To watch the press conference click here and look for the video link:

http://hurricanesports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/112810aaa.html

CGNC

for your reading enjoyment

http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2010/11/29/1841901/the-curious-index-11-29-2010

CGNC

more enjoyable reading

http://www.seventhfloorblog.com/2010/11/29/1841818/jon-gruden-or-someone-else-who-knows-madness-thread-monday#comments

SOUP

Here is who I believe based on what credible sources have told me and other reporters here at The Herald who have covered UM in the past: Montreal Alouette's coach Marc Trestman (former UM offensive coordinator); Georgia's Mark Richt; former USF coach Jim Leavitt; Texas Tech's Tommy Tuberville (he was the hot name last year for UM); Mississippi State coach Dan Mullen; and UConn's Randy Edsall.

Yes, Richt said Sunday he has no interest in leaving Georgia. But he just had a 6-6 season. He played at UM and may be able to be sold on the come home and be a hero scenario. And if UM is really going to pony up big cash -- we heard upwards of $3 million per for a coach it really wants -- then why wouldn't he at least listen?

To me, the most intriguing potential candidates are Mullen and Edsall.

Mullen is making $1.2 million at Mississippi State through 2013. He's 38 years old, hungry and has quickly turned Mississippi State into a respectable program in a tough SEC West.

Edsall, 52, has been at UConn since 1999 and has made a basketball school excited about its football program. He's only 69-69, but the Huskies have been really competitive without much of a recruiting base. They shared the Big East title in 2007. Edsall makes $1.3 million a year.

Read more: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2010/11/making-sense-of-gruden-coaching-search.html?cid=6a00d83451b26169e20147e03d0b08970b#comment-6a00d83451b26169e20147e03d0b08970b#ixzz16gZBLf00

IraqiCane

What do y'all think of Mississippi State coach Dan Mullen?

SuperCooper

I seriously doubt they are going after Trestman, Leavitt. After Hocutt's comments, they just don't fit. UM wants a homerun hire, they aren't it.

Mullen would be a good choice if the Gruden talks fall through

canes

one

Lou of M

no to tommy t too...

SOUP

What do y'all think of Mississippi State coach Dan Mullen?

Posted by: IraqiCane | November 29, 2010 at 10:30 AM

Good coach. Home run? Not so much...

dj moonbat

I could see Trestman. He has a quality resume, including some real success at UM. But he's mostly a technocrat. The U is going to want to find somebody fiery.

Leavitt? No way.

Richt? Not unless he's fearful that the boosters are going to do to HIM what just happened to Shannon. Why would the U want to hire a coach who's running scared? Doesn't add up.

Venables would be the most likely guy on the list to take the job. Stories have suggested that he and Hocutt have some kind of connection at KSU, and Venables obviously is an up-and-comer. And "Associate Head Coach" is a title worse than kissing your sister.

Obviously, I'm not discussing Gruden, because that would be crazy. And I'm not talking "GRUDEN's crazy for taking the job," either.

IraqiCane

Randy Edsall Overall Coaching Record: 73-69 (12th year)

Bowl Record: 3-1

Edsall has seen the Connecticut Huskies make the transition from the Atlantic 10 Conference to FBS Independent before finally settling in the Big East.

He holds the title of UConn’s all-time winningest football coach.

Edsall's been successful at lower levels of competition when compared to his BCS-mates. The question lies in whether or not he could duplicate his efforts in a more powerful conference.

One of his more notable wins is a 20-7 victory over the South Carolina Gamecocks in the 2009 PapaJohns.com Bowl.

While he is early on this list, that’s not to say that big things aren't in Edsall's future.

He’s shown he knows how to win.

Perhaps we’ll find out if he can swim with the sharks in the Big Ten.

SOUP

The only home runs are Gruden, Patterson (TCU), Harbaugh (Standford) and Petersen (Boise).

Boise State's Chris Petersen is a finalist for the 2010 Eddie Robinson Coach of the Year Award, voted on by members of the Football Writers Association of America. This is the fourth time (in five seasons) that Petersen has been a finalist for the award. He has not won it.

The other finalists (in alphabetical order): Wisconsin's Bret Bielema, Auburn's Gene Chizik, Michigan State's Mark Dantonio, Oklahoma State's Mike Gundy, Stanford's Jim Harbaugh, Oregon's Chip Kelly and TCU's Gary Patterson.


Read more: http://voices.idahostatesman.com/2010/11/23/bmurphy/boise_states_chris_petersen_among_eight_finalists_eddie_robinson#ixzz16gcWTI00

IraqiCane

Gary Patterson
Overall Coaching Record: 96-28 (10th year; Interim HC in 2000 for Mobile Alabama Bowl)

Bowl Record: 5-3

Four words describe Patterson best: Coach of the Year.

He’s been awarded that honor on 12 separate occasions.

It’s hard to argue with the numbers. Seven of Patterson’s 10 teams have won at least 11 games. His current two-year record stands at 23-1, with the only loss being to then-No. 6 Boise State in the Fiesta Bowl.

TCU returns to the BCS picture this year, but they will not be accompanied by Boise State.

While Patterson’s Horned Frogs carry the “BCS Buster” title much like the Broncos, many fans praise his team for what is perceived as a very humble quality.

The Kansas native has accomplished much during his tenure at TCU.

The Horned Frogs may even be considered strongly for a position in a more powerful conference during any future realignment, thanks to Patterson

IraqiCane

Hyundai Sun Bowl: Miami vs. Temple

Miami just fired its coach and offensive coordinator last night after an embarrassing loss to South Florida and now the Hurricanes will have to play a bowl game.

Things haven't been right for Miami in years and while Shannon had done wonders for the program off of the field and in the classroom, he wasn't the answer on the field, despite having brought a lot of talent back into the program.

Temple is no slouch and a beaten down Hurricanes team will struggle against the Owls.

Prediction: Temple 20, Miami 17

Very Ouch Baby!!!

usagainsttheworld&theofficials

question-- if chucky is a real option (one that i must admit that i'm not sold on) could he be interested on college football given the pending/potential work stoppage in the nfl? maybe come here until things settle down in the league and then transition back in?

if so-- i'm not interested. we need someone who's going to be here a while.

and by the way-- i said a few blobs ago-- get rid of aubrey hill. damn-- hocutt got rid of all of them!!!

dj moonbat

The only way Petersen's coming is if he's tired of coaching at a school that will always have to argue its way into a national title game -- as opposed to Miami, which only has to do it periodically (see, e.g., 2000), then loses the argument to a team that it beat.

SOUP

That was then...

Nov. 24, 2006

Coral Gables, Fla (www.hurricanesports.com) -- - University of Miami head football coach Larry Coker was released from his contract today.

"The University has made a decision to change head coaches for our football program," said athletic director Paul Dee. "We all recognize Larry's contributions to this program and all he has accomplished in his six years and in prior years as the offensive coordinator. On behalf of the university I want to thank him for what he's done for us."

Coker spoke at a press conference, saying, "I want to encourage our alumni, fans, our NFL alumni, to be stronger than ever for supporting this program, supporting the new coach, the new staff. The University of Miami has a great reputation. It's going to be a good job. This football program will not be down long."

Dee announced that the university will engage Chuck Neinas, the former commissioner of the Big Eight Conference and former executive director of the College Football Association, to assist in the coaching search.

In a statement to the community, President Donna E. Shalala said, "We need a new start. We will recruit a great coach. We are looking for an experienced and successful coach of the highest integrity who understands and loves the Miami tradition of success and football family. He must be a great recruiter, of high character, committed to winning championships, academic success, and to the University community. We want someone who wants to be at the University of Miami, who is well organized, inspirational, and can attract a first-rate staff."

Coker, 58, led the Hurricanes to one national championship, two Bowl Championship Series title game appearances, three BCS bowl game appearances, five bowl games and three consecutive Big East Conference championships. His 2006 team finished 6-6 and is now bowl eligible following last night's 17-14 win over Boston College.

SOUP

That was then...only 14 days later after Coker was axed this:

Dec. 8, 2006

Coral Gables, Fla. (www. hurricanesports.com) - - The University of Miami held a press conference at 11:00 am today to name Randy Shannon as the new head football coach.

Randy Shannon Named Hurricanes Head Coach
Defensive Coordinator Had Five Top 10 Defenses in Six Seasons

CORAL GABLES, Fla. - Randy Shannon has been named the new head football coach at the University of Miami. Length and terms of his contract will not be released. Shannon, 40, has been the team's defensive coordinator for the last six seasons and is one of the finest defensive coaches in all of college football. He has coached top 10 defenses in five of those six seasons.

"Randy has the discipline and heart of a champion," said University of Miami president Donna E. Shalala. "He has been preparing himself for a head coaching position his whole life and I am very happy that the opportunity came at the University of Miami, his alma mater. We are extremely lucky to have him."

"In our national search, we spoke to a lot of people about coaches and to a number of coaches about their availability," said UM athletic director Paul Dee. "As the search progressed, it became very clear that Coach Shannon was the right person for this position. His history at the University of Miami as a student-athlete, a graduate, an assistant coach and as a coordinator has prepared him extremely well to lead a program that he fully understands. In our discussions with Coach Shannon, we have given him the resources to seek his offensive coordinator."

A native of Miami, a former Miami Hurricanes player and graduate of the university, Shannon becomes the 20th head coach in school history. He replaces Larry Coker, who was dismissed on November 24. Shannon played for the Hurricanes from 1985-88 and has been an assistant coach for 13 seasons. He has played on and coached on three of the school's five national championship teams. In 2001, he became the first UM coach to be named the winner of the Frank Broyles Award, presented annually to the nation's top assistant coach.

SOUP

That was then...the FIRST mistake:

Jan. 20, 2007

Coral Gables, Fla. (www. hurricanesports.com) - - Patrick Nix has been named the new offensive coordinator at the University of Miami. Considered a rising star in the coaching ranks, Nix inherits a unit that returns nine starters, including two highly touted quarterbacks, one of the nation's top young running backs, and an offensive line that returns four starters.

"We're happy that we have a great new offensive coordinator, an energetic person who brings a lot of ideas to this program and to this team," said Hurricanes head coach Randy Shannon. "He knows the ACC and he knows how to win as both a quarterback and as a coach. As a former defensive coordinator myself, you always judge a coach on what they present. Patrick Nix did a great job against us last year adjusting to what we did as a defense. And, as we adjusted on defense, he adjusted on offense again to keep us off-balance. Imagine what he'll do against other defenses."

Nix, 34, was a star quarterback at Auburn and still ranks as one of the top all-time passers in Auburn history. He came to Miami after five seasons at Georgia Tech, including the last three as offensive coordinator. He also coaches the quarterbacks, his former position as a player. In 1996, the Yellow Jackets won the ACC's Coastal Division and finished with a 9-5 record. Nix coached one of the most explosive offenses in the conference, and the team's 25 passing touchdowns led the ACC. Wide receiver Calvin Johnson was a consensus All-American after catching 76 passes for 1,202 yards and 12 touchdowns, and running back Tashard Choice led the conference in rushing and was selected All-ACC after gaining 1,473 yards and scoring 12 TDs. His quarterback, Reggie Ball, led the ACC with 20 touchdowns passes, and in the Gator Bowl with Ball sitting out, Nix guided backup Taylor Bennett, who passed for 326 yards and three touchdowns.

dg

Please go after Gary Patterson or Harbaugh. Both are at private schools and used to NCAA complaince issues and academics. Even Bobby Petrino..his offense would put up 40 a game with the talent on this team.

NO GRUDEN, PLEASE NO GRUDEN!

usagainsttheworld&theofficials

barry alvarez.

DZ8

Dee announced that the university will engage Chuck Neinas, the former commissioner of the Big Eight Conference and former executive director of the College Football Association, to assist in the coaching search.

Didn't Kirby just do the same thing. Hope Neinas just has a large rolodex and Kirby needs him to do the contact work.


And if we don't make a big splash with a sexy name I would be happy with Edsal.

usagainsttheworld&theofficials

another thought--

folks are smarting (me included) that we shouldn't be a stopping off point for coaches with their eye toward the nfl-- well-- it seems to me that we were winning the most championships when we had coaches with an eye toward the league. . . hmmmm. . .

if we had this kind of guy then we would have a match between coaches and players--

coaches with an eye toward the league

players with an eye toward the league

maybe it makes them hungry??? just musing.

DZ8

agreed ^^^

Also on Edsal he does establish a running game and with our O line and rbs that could be perfect!

Lou of M

wordless....

Sarasota 'cane

Let's keep this in reality.

Harbaugh is not coming.

Gruden is not coming. (Manny should be suspended for starting that rumor.)

Barry Alvarez is not coming.

Knute Rockney is not coming.

Tom Landry is not coming.

The guy from UCONN seems viable.

Dan Mullen might come, but would jump as soon as UF wanted him.

That's my short list, the guy from UCONN.

Go 'canes!

DallasTX Cane

TCU is going to announce today their acceptance of an offer to join the Big East.

MattInNY

What great day! Randy Shannon has been fired and Jon Gruden is still a possibility. Even if we don't get Gruden, anything is better than Shannon. But Gruden would be really nice! Miami would definitly have my money again and then some if they pay Gruden what he wants. If they pony up, I will pony up, its only fair. You commit to winning and put a quality product on the field and I will commit my money.

Chris

Sarasota 'cane...why the buzz kill mood today?

What, you don't like dreaming about this team's bright future like the rest of us? lol.

I think the Gruden rumors have merit to them, he may decide to use this as a smoke screen for bargaining leverage, but unlike in 2007 when coaches from around the country expressly declined interest in coming to miami, he has not done that yet.

Anything can happen and this job is looking very sexy for a mastermind coach to come in and inspire this team to play to their potential.

CGNC

Sota - what about Schembechler -LOL - not coming? LOL

Lou of M

they need to hire a "sexy" name... start calling boosters, have a funraiser, car wash, sell the house or whatever it takes... we cannot be doing this 4 years from now unless we have another NC in the trophy case.

solarcane

TCU to the Big East, and Louisiana Tech plays in the WAC
The words east and west have lost a lot of pull outside of geography books.

Chris

Guys, what about bringing Schnellenberger back for some role relating to the team?

solarcane

"I wouldn't say I'm solid [to Miami] right now," Louis-Jean said Sunday night. "[Shannon] was a huge factor. When I went down there he told me they would take care of me. Whoever they bring in is going to tell me whatever I want to hear. It's up in the air right now."

MattInNY

The difference from the last search to this one is 3 main reasons as I see them:

1) Money. Miami has it and they are willing to spend it. That wasn't the case 4 years ago.

2) Talent. In 2006 Miami had nothing in terms of talent for the new head coach to work with and alot of people who interviewed saw that. A good coach can step right in and delvelop what we already have, add a few pieces and instantly go to the top of the ACC b/c the talent is there.

3) Kirby Hocutt. Shannon was brought in by Paul Dee when he was on his way out the door. One has to wonder how much effort he really spent looking for a head coach. As such, Hocutt had zero loyalty to Shannon as he was not Hocutt's guy. Hocutt is a new, young AD and he wants to make a splash. A Gruden hire would instantly make Kirby Hocutt one of the top ADs in the country. This would be his hire, his guy and bring instant credibility to Miami and to him. This search is just as important to Miami as a program as it is to Hocutt personally.

Lou of M

this is not a great day for the U.. A great day is playing for an NC. dont forget randy was a true cane and any true cane fan would not wish this on any cane..

UMike

I for one don't care if we hire a "sexy" name..hire someone who can win with the talent we already have and have the ability, or staff with the ability to keep the talent coming,...I could be way wrong here, but how did Gruden's last job end? he didnt exactly leave Tampa for greener pastures lol..I think its crazy how normal people like us already know what their willing to pay a coach, people are gonna use that as leverage for another job (maybe Gruden included)...I do agree we need to pony up the money, but is it possible that Miami isnt THAT sexy of a place to work? Sure there is talent here, but a lot of that talent can go start somewhere like WVU rather than sit a year or two at Miami. The stadium is nice, but empty and the fans that do show up expect 12-0 EVERY year or he won't be good enough. I may not remember back in the 80's, but were any of those guys that we won titles with "sexy" names?

MattInNY

this is not a great day for the U.. A great day is playing for an NC. dont forget randy was a true cane and any true cane fan would not wish this on any cane..

Posted by: Lou of M | November 29, 2010 at 11:42 AM

I do not care who the guy is, if you cannot win than you don't derserve to be the HC at the 5-time NC University of Miami Hurricanes, plain and simple. Win, thats all that matters, the other stuff is secondary.

And you are wrong, this is a great day b/c now we can finally move on from having an awful head coach who has no clue about anything except looking clueless while shaking his head w/ arms crossed, having unmotivated and unprepared players, 4-5 losses a year, 0 titles of any kind, a 3/4 empty stadium, this list goes on and on. Its all reletive. He deserved to be canned just like anyone who cannot do their job. I for one am glad it happened and it needed to happen.

CGNC

UMike winning cures alot of ills. Winning brings in money and recruits - everyone wants a chance to win. So while there were different coaches in the 80's the team(s) were still kicking a$$ and taking names and winning.

I would like to see GrUden here (see he even has the right last name- lol). Or if not, anyone else that can get this program back on track

UMike

CGNC..thats part of my point..we dont need a big sexy name to win lol

UMike

All i'm saying is..I would probably prefer and youner, hungry up & coming coach who we may even save some money on. I'm not even convinced coaches see Miami as that sexy of a job. Its not like before were we could keep ALL the talent from WPB down. We don't have the ora (spell check) of the orange bowl and we don't have any swagger. We havent even got to the ACC title game. I just think its not ALL about a big sexy name for coach..imo

solarcane

RT @gregcote:
ESPN's Outside The Lines called to invite us on today (3 p.m.)

canedolfan386

I wanna weigh in on this. I love leach. I wanted him the first go round. and he wanted to come here. I love the fact the man always won with lesser talent. his players didn't like playin for him. randys players loved him. u see how that turned out. I love the thought of a renegade coach leading the canes out of the smoke

SOUP

I just think its not ALL about a big sexy name for coach..imo

Posted by: UMike | November 29, 2010 at 12:02 PM

Even if we could get say Halle Berry or Eva Longoria?

MassivCane

The biggest thing that the U needs is a tru and honet coach, one to teach and modivate. If we don't get some one like Gruden (still not real comfortable with that, but I wouldn't complain) But I would like to see the Stoops brother in Arizona. If anyone watched the Arizona Oregon game, he was yelling at Chip Kelly from across the field. We need an attitude like that on our side not the other. Jim Harbough was jumping up and down and pushing his players before they ran out on the field. We need someone like that.

SOUP

I love leach. I wanted him the first go round.

Posted by: canedolfan386 | November 29, 2010 at 12:05 PM

That's what she said.

Leach ain't happening I'm told.

MassivCane

I think another thing the University can use is someone they can field promotions and merchandise around. All those little Chucky dolls selling like hot cakes either through All Canes or at the games. We could sell Mike Leech "Those ain't air raid sirens, those are Hurricane Warnings"

MattInNY

UMike, your statement, I think is a huge problem w/ Miami and its fan base. The 80's are gone and that time period and era of college football are over. Things have changed and college football has evolved and is night and day different than it was 25 years ago, heck its different than it was 10 years ago. The days of bringing in a no name, unproven coordinator to bring a team to the top are few and far between and in the end, it most likely won't happen. Recruiting is different, the coaches are different, the way people look at college football is different, everything is different. This fan base, along w/ its players, needs to realize the days of Miami stepping on to the football field and winning right then and there are not going to happen. College football is so different, its big business and requires people that know what they are doing. Name recognition is a big part of it to be able to lure the top talent to your school but also have a top flight coach to make them better. A good coach and good coaching makes up for player deficiencies. Half of college football is a sales job, it wasn't like that 20 years ago plus their was not as much competition like there is now. As a program, you need every advantage possible to win and having a good coach w/ a name is a big part of it.

SOUP

But I would like to see the Stoops brother in Arizona. If anyone watched the Arizona Oregon game, he was yelling at Chip Kelly from across the field. We need an attitude like that on our side not the other. Jim Harbough was jumping up and down and pushing his players before they ran out on the field. We need someone like that.

Posted by: MassivCane | November 29, 2010 at 12:06 PM


Stoops? NO, he's outta control on the sideline.

Harbuagh? YES, he's the smartest man in the room (next to Kirby of course)!

pbcfrcane13

No way Leach. From what people the school doesn't want to touch Leach. BTW I would not like Stoops from AZ. Watched that team play a few times...yea I'm good I would rather have Esall if were going to go the lower name guy.

MattInNY

Leach won't happen, too much baggage. Probably not the right fit anyway.

pbcfrcane13

Harbough....Would be my number 1 pick if you want to know the truth even over Gruden. Is a QB who knows how to play and looks like develop them. He loves to run he ball and with our Line and RB plus he recrutied to an academic school.

UMike

matt...very very good points

CGNC

What about the Wisky head coach?

CGNC

Agreed Matty. And UMike we aren't winning right now. And haven't been for a very very long time. It makes ALL the difference.

Sebastian

The Gruden as HC of the `Canes is still going on between both parties

SOUP

FROM THE VAULT:

I can just see it now, Shannon and Mike Barrow running out the smoke like old times. They will be fired up as coaches, Shannon will be on a real high, because he's got his dream job now. So it's over for college football, they can hang it up.

Posted by: Calvin | May 19, 2007 at 07:08

Shannon is bringing in a lot of young thoroughbreds. In two years we'll pick up where we left off in '01-'02, although I honestly think Shannon's teams will be deeper and better than those teams, yeah, I said it. 86, put that in the vault.

Posted by: Cavaleer | June 02, 2007 at 15:42

Mark it down right now the Gayturds will not go better than 9-3 next year. Tebow will not finish the season making all those runs up the middle. I hate that bullshyt!! The turds are in for a rude awakening next year and everyone in the SEC will be on the hunt for them. 9-3 Mark it down.

Posted by: Canez 1 | January 11, 2007 at 13:43

I've been to 5 Fins games at JRS, two of which were against the Jets and one against Buffalo, and can honestly say that I left each game feeling like I spent 4hrs in an oven, watching ballet. Taking the Canes out of the heart of the city is like taking bacon out of a BLT.

Posted by: Big Moo | May 27, 2007 at 14:57

SOUP

What about the Wisky head coach?

Posted by: CGNC | November 29, 2010 at 12:16 PM

Why would he leave Whisky to go to Miami?

Six

What DTX and solar said ..

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/nov/29/reports-tcu-football-leaving-mountain-west-big-eas/

If that doesn't burst anyone's fantasy bubble about Patterson, I don't know what will. The only mega-ball lottery winning shot the Canes probably had at Patterson was that TCU continually being snubbed and having to fight their way into the BCS Championship or BCS Bowl game - and he got sick of it and wanted to be in an automatic BCS bid conference

They're joining the weakest BCS Conference out there. They're probably the biggest lock of any team in that conference to win the Big East almost every single year

MattInNY

No one cares about this other crap like grades, arrests, etc. I am not saying its not important b/c it is, but winning is the most important thing in college football, everything else is secondary. Its just the way it is b/c if it wasn't, than Shannon would still have his job. I mean, if Shannon had won the ACC this year but had a few guys arrested or had a few guys w/ bad grades, we would not be saying a darn thing right now. The only thing anyone would be saying is Miami is ACC Champions and where are my seats at the Orange Bowl Game in January.

CGNC

Posted by: SOUP | November 29, 2010 at 12:22 PM

Because its Wisky - LOL

MattInNY

CGNC...Its getting colder up here so you know what the means. The pond in Central Park is ready for ice skating. Thats all you!

CGNC

Matty - I would LOVE to do that. Maybe one day....

LegalImmigrantCane

MH

The Miami Hurricanes began a national coaching search Sunday to replace Randy Shannon. And it looks like former Super Bowl-winning coach Jon Gruden is their top target.

One UM trustee said Gruden has been the focus of the school's search, and UM would be willing to pay far more than they paid Shannon to try to lure him. And another source told The Miami Herald Gruden has some interest in the job, and UM clearly is interested in Gruden. But Hurricanes fans should temper their excitement.


Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/11/29/1947816/source-gruden-shows-interest-in.html#ixzz16f6fUpct


There was not a longer-running relationship in South Florida sports. The divorce came suddenly. The words from both sides have been professionally amicable, but don't let the words fool you.

``I'm hurt. You get hurt,'' Randy Shannon said by phone Sunday, his first day waking up to his new reality. ``I'm disappointed. I wish I had more time.''

Since 1984, for more than half his life, Shannon has regarded the University of Miami and its football program as family. Late Saturday night, his family kicked him out of the house. His school of more than a quarter century -- his school -- told him for the first time he wasn't good enough. And goodbye.


Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/11/28/1947770/shannon-leaves-um-with-a-strong.html#ixzz16f7KElAl


Championships.

Winning.

Relevance.

Those were the hallmarks University of Miami athletic director Kirby Hocutt repeatedly mentioned during a Sunday news conference in the wake of football coach Randy Shannon's dismissal.

``Simply stated, winning is important at the University of Miami -- always has been, always will be,'' Hocutt said, his voice breaking at times while explaining one of the hardest decisions he ever has made. ``. . . At the U we expect to compete for championships and nothing less. We have a group of talented young men in this program, and our future is promising. To once again sit at the top of the college football world, Miami must be relevant in college football.

``. . . We will not compromise on winning.''


Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/11/28/1947645/winning-is-important.html#ixzz16f7jCNH7


According to linebacker Jordan Futch, Kirby Hocutt told the players that some of the assistant coaches already know their fate, but hadn't revealed it yet.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/11/28/1947004/um-football-news-conferecne-on.html#ixzz16f8mPqGI

Manny

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2010/11/reaction-to-randy-shannon-firing.html

Posted by: NativeCane | November 29, 2010 at 04:40 AM

mi@mic@ne

Maybe we could get Jimmy Johnson to agree to talks for name recognition with other top NFL brass...It could go on for a couple of weeks... Just sayin...

LegalImmigrantCane

SS

Former NFL coach Jon Gruden is high on the Miami Hurricanes' list of candidates to replace Randy Shannon as coach and there's mutual interest, multiple sources said Sunday.

One UM source said Gruden initiated contact with the school to express his interest weeks before Shannon was fired Saturday night and that there have been discussions.

Athletic Director Kirby Hocutt said Sunday he has chosen Chuck Neinas, a head-hunter and consultant for colleges looking to hire a coach, to help with a national search.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/um-hurricanes/fl-jon-gruden-1129-20101128,0,5795847.story

It's never too early to start speculation on who the next coach of the Miami Hurricanes might be. In fact, some websites are already saying they think it will be Jon Gruden.

Here's a look at the bios of a few men who might be candidates, including Gruden.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/um-hurricanes/fl-randy-shannon-firing-replacement-b20101128,0,5105864.story

Randy Shannon: 5 games to remember, 5 to forget

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/um-hurricanes/os-randy-shannon-fired-games-to-remem20101128,0,541313.story

Dont mess with Texans, (Andre Johnson)...OR
Explosion in a Cane fist factory.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/sfl-andre-johnson-former-hurricane-1129,0,4715473.story

"It felt like someone punched me in the gut," Chickillo said. "I have a great relationship with Coach Shannon and the coaching staff. As of right now, I'm still committed, but I need to see who the new coach is going to be and how I fit into the system.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/recruiting/os-recruiting-um-recruits-react-to-shannon-firing-1129,0,1413324.story

Not only will the new University of Miami coach have to protect the seven verbal commitments the Hurricanes had reeled in for the Class of 2011, but the 'Canes must also seek to secure four commitments from juniors.

UM had received verbal commitments from juniors: Willie Bailey, DB, Hallandale; Keith Brown, LB, Miami Norland; Randy "Duke" Johnson, RB, Miami Norland; and Amos Leggett, DB, Miami Gulliver Prep.

St. Thomas Aquinas senior wide receiver Phillip Dorsett, who committed to UM back in June, told me Sunday night that he is taking a wait-and-see approach.

"I'm still committed, I'm just waiting on who they hire," Dorsett said.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/sfl-um-junior-recruits-112810,0,5589140.story

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_college_hurricanes/2010/11/statement-from-shannon.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+sports%2Fumweblog+%28UM+Hurricanes+%7C+Sun-Sentinel+Blogs%29

Posted by: NativeCane | November 29, 2010 at 05:03 AM

LegalImmigrantCane

PBP

Many University of Miami fans undoubtedly would like to see a big name succeed Randy Shannon.

One of the most glamorous coaches without a team is Monday Night Football analyst Jon Gruden, who won a Super Bowl with Tampa Bay.

He is on UM's wish list but that's about it so far, despite the Internet being ablaze Sunday night with unsubstantiated reports that a deal was imminent.

A UM source confirmed that the school is indeed interested in Gruden, 47, but stressed that a deal is not in the works.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/hurricanes/jon-gruden-is-on-the-miami-hurricanes-wish-1079929.html

It should have worked.

Randy Shannon, a true believer with national championship credentials as both a player and an assistant coach at Miami, should have been the one boss who could dig all that uniquely Hurricane pride from the bottom of the championship chest and show it once more to the world.

As it turned out, though, Shannon wasn't even able to make his own players understand what it means to wear the "U," and now he's out of a job, fired after four seasons as head coach.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/hurricanes/commentary-miami-hurricanes-might-need-to-find-a-1079672.html

Not that the dismissal wasn’t justified. It certainly was, in fact, when viewed strictly through the prism of wins and losses. The Hurricanes were 28-22 in Shannon’s charge and consistently mediocre in a mediocre Atlantic Coast Conference.

So, no, he wasn’t a good coach on the sideline.

The fatal proof of same, apparently, came in back-to-back home losses concluding the regular season when the Hurricanes first melted down late against Virginia Tech in a game of huge ACC consequence a week ago and then were beaten by South Florida, an in-state little brother.

http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/stodapop/2010/11/28/new-um-coach-will-face-pressure-to-match-jimbo-fishers-first-year/

Jorge

Spoke to quarterback Jacory Harris as he came out of a team meeting this morning where athletic director Kirby Hocutt spoke of Randy Shannon’s firing. Here is what Harris, who hasn’t spoken in months, had to say

http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/caneswatch/2010/11/28/jacory-harris-on-shannon-firing-players-need-to-be-held-accountable/

Posted by: NativeCane | November 29, 2010 at 05:18 AM

Ungar

Soup and the first blogger who says "the U is back" after the new hire, gets a punch in the face from Canechic.
Posted by: canechic | November 28, 2010 at 08:49 AM

(Seductive background music)

Guys, have you ever wanted to meet the lovely and talented canechic? Do you have a masochistic streak? Think YOU can take a punch?

Then text "the U is back" to typepad.canespace.com. The first to do so gets a free personal visit from canechic and a guaranteed punch in the face.

DISCLAIMER: There is a standard "no punchbacks" rule in force on this deal. Offer void in Boise, Idaho, if said by Chris Peterson.

Ungar

PLEASE do NOT get a Stoops family member (i keep seeing him on Wish Lists) all that guy does is bitch at referees...I don't mind coaches arguing ur point, but there is no coaching on that sideline its all on the refs
Posted by: DrewZ2 | November 28, 2010 at 10:43 AM

Actually, that should be ALL that they do on gameday. The OC , DC, and STC call the plays, he is supposed to get in the refs ear, point out calls they missed, and complain when they get called against them. Randy let the refs walk all over us, and so we were highly penalized and yet our opponents suddenly played perfectly all game. I don't want it to be miamicane level (luvya, buddy), but a bad call has got to be responded to.

Ungar

All,
I only just found out, didn't even know the score of the game until a few minutes ago. I can only imagine what happened on the board when JH threw that int.
Posted by: USAFCane | November 28, 2010 at 12:01 PM

Before the pick:

7 point lead? We are Kings!
Solar will be happy for his boy Storm and his Johnson.
Posted by: 86Cane | November 27, 2010 at 02:47 PM
(LOL! 50%, right?)

A seven point lead is all we need.
I'm gonna take a nap...
Posted by: 86Cane | November 27, 2010 at 03:03 PM

I'm still nervous as all hell when jacory throws it
Posted by: BEERicane | November 27, 2010 at 03:17 PM

ou are just a great fan Bahama!!!
Posted by: VA Cane | November 27, 2010 at 03:17 PM

Whether its Morris or J-12, whenever they throw across the middle, my heart skips a beat!
Posted by: BahamaCane | November 27, 2010 at 03:17 PM

After the pick:

Well, there it is, J-12, a INT is an INT!
Posted by: BahamaCane | November 27, 2010 at 03:20 PM

Is it bad that pick makes me laugh?
Posted by: BEERicane | November 27, 2010 at 03:20 PM

another pick.................damn it
Posted by: VA Cane | November 27, 2010 at 03:20 PM

HUH?
Posted by: 86Cane | November 27, 2010 at 03:21 PM
(That woke 86Cane up, I guess...)

this is unacceptable.. its just undisciplined... wasted game... kick a field goal and hope no one remembers what happened.
Posted by: mi@mic@ne | November 27, 2010 at 03:22 PM

why not run the ball? wtf was whipple thinking? this blows.
Posted by: Caniak aka true cane | November 27, 2010 at 03:22 PM

did somebody run the wrong route or was that a bad throw/decision by J-12?
Posted by: BahamaCane | November 27, 2010 at 03:22 PM

Beericane - No. Gotta find the humor in this. Who the f!%$! was he throwing to?
Posted by: CGNC | November 27, 2010 at 03:23 PM

no leadership...
Posted by: mi@mic@ne | November 27, 2010 at 03:23 PM

Shannon, oh my, Shannon...
Posted by: 86Cane | November 27, 2010 at 03:23 PM

run the ball and kick the field goal, why not do that
Posted by: Caniak aka true cane | November 27, 2010 at 03:23 PM

Caniak, i was expecting run. Why throw it i dont know!
Even if the run got stuffed, the Canes were still in FG range!
WOW!
Posted by: BahamaCane | November 27, 2010 at 03:24 PM

Jeez......Please fire Randy now!!! Escort him out of the stadium....!!!
Posted by: Bad Bart | November 27, 2010 at 03:25 PM

Miller time.
Posted by: Ashamed UM Alumni. | November 27, 2010 at 03:25 PM

Byrd ran the wrong route
Posted by: Caniak aka true cane | November 27, 2010 at 03:25 PM

what a waste
Posted by: mi@mic@ne | November 27, 2010 at 03:25 PM

I have watched Auburn, Alabama, South Carolina, Boise State, and Oregon this year all play like we SHOULD be playing!!!!! Thanks alot Donna and Randy for bringing down this once proud program!!!
Posted by: Bad Bart | November 27, 2010 at 03:27 PM

This game is suppose to be over!
Posted by: BahamaCane | November 27, 2010 at 03:27 PM

I think that says it all right there.

Ungar

RIP - Leslie Nielsen
Posted by: raizecane | November 29, 2010 at 09:41 AM

Darn it, the boys liked him in Naked Gun and Airplane.

Ungar

Just watched Holcutt's press conference.

1. Guy is VERY impressive. Young - looks like he could still be playing.

2. Anyone that thinks that either Holcutt or Shalala are not interested in winning on the football field couldn't be more wrong. Check out the replay of the press conference. Holcutt made it very clear: At Miami, they will win in the classroom, in the community, and on the football field.

3. Shannon was gone prior to USF game...that may have been the straw that broke the camel's back, but Holcutt said he had drawn up a list of potential candidates "a few days ago" and had given it to Chuck Ninas (sp?), the guy who is leading the national search, last night. List came from Holcutt - not from Ninas to Holcutt. Thought that was interesting.

4. Kirby wasn't happy about attendance at game yesterday - said the players deserved better.

5. Whipple has not been fired, nor have any other coaches.

6. He replied "no" to a question as to whether or not Shannon would have a role with the university going forward. He said maybe someday, but not in the near future.

7. Was emotional when speaking about Shannon, and the Miami family. Gave RS due props.

8. Said ACC title was not a pre-requisite for retaining the HC job - but being "relevant" was. He said at Miami being nationally relevant was a must - said you can be nationally relevant without winning your conference.

9. These guys - this administration - call it what you want, but make no mistake - this administration is focused on being relevant and competing for national titles. Shalala, Holcutt, Board of Trustees, etc - they are deadly serious about turning this around...and no, they won't sacrifice the success they've seen in the classroom and the community.

10. Acknowledged all the players that had come before and created the tradition - said he had spoken to many of them - Lamarr Thomas was in attendance and was recognized and thanked for being there.

11. Again, very, very impressive athletic director. Everyone should feel good about the steps that are being taken to improve the status of this football program.

12. One last thing - did not comment when asked whether candidates were all HCs or had to have major HC experience.

http://hurricanesports.cstv.com/allaccess/

Posted by: AlpharettaCane | November 28, 2010 at 01:39 PM

Worth repeating. Well written AC!

Ungar

But remember i don't think it will be official until Gruden get some tests as required by UM and or the NCAA which might take a couple of days...
Posted by: Montreal-Cane | November 28, 2010 at 08:25 PM

Oh God, Gruden might be our coach because his SAT scores are too low? Does that mean he will have to coach JuCo for a year?

Ungar

alright I'm saying 14-0
Posted by: solarcane | November 28, 2010 at 09:43 PM

Just don't say that in front of canechic!

Ungar

Solar: picure the look on Chucky's face when J12 shows up to his first team meeting with his fly Oakland Raiders jump suit.
Posted by: AlpharettaCane | November 28, 2010 at 09:49 PM

Hey, they both like the Raiders, right?

Ungar

Dan Sileo is saying that he has spoken with Gruden and it isnt happening....all the rumors are being used as leverage
Posted by: SlingBlade | November 28, 2010 at 08:33 PM

LMAO!!
Yea this is about the first time in a couple months I chuckled at every other comment.
Posted by: solarcane | November 28, 2010 at 10:10 PM

Huh? You were lying about laughing at my Randy Dangerfield stand-up? I'm hurt.

Ungar

Legion how much will our ticket prices increase if he is successful next season? I am just sayin!
Posted by: canesteeler | November 28, 2010 at 10:02 PM

Who cares! I'd sell my soul for another National Championship right about now.
Posted by: SOUP | November 28, 2010 at 10:13 PM

I thought that was already sold off in 2001?

mi@mic@ne

We need a fiery coach and a departure from the ACC conference and back to the Big Easy ... no more Anti Cane Conference refs to deal with.
If our schedule was easier...meess thinks more coaches would be willing to talk... no?

ZarOKoN

i know they said that head coaching experience is needed but wont be that big of a factor. but what about Auburns offensive coordinator?

Ungar

miamicane, then you would like Stoops, right?

Ungar

Former Cane QBS coach Mark Trestman now the HC of Montreal in the CFL just won the grey cup tonight for the second year in a row (back to back).

If Gruden is not coming, Mark Richt is high on Kirby's list.
Posted by: Montreal-Cane | November 28, 2010 at 11:10 PM

Does that mean he will punt on third down?

Ungar

Question... why would The U fire Randy then go after Gruden and not get him? Was Gruden not the guy the originally planned on? Cuz everyone was saying he was they guy they wanted. Numero uno. Why not let Randy coach the team in the bowl then if they dont have anyone lined up?
Posted by: The Dude | November 28, 2010 at 10:50 PM

Why would the Marlins fire Fredi then go after Valentine and not get him? Just saying it isn't like it never happens. And maybe they know the players wouldn't try for Randy once he was gone.

Ungar

If I gave U the option of reading the latest post FIRST U would NEVER go back and read the previous posts and U know that!
U would read your post and the people that replied to U and that's it.
NOT gonna happen!
Posted by: SOUP | November 28, 2010 at 11:36 PM

SOUP, you are such a tease! I like the 100 per page though. Fewer page jumps is good...

Ungar

"Shannon, a gentleman, scrubbed the team squeaky clean. Now it appears he is unemployed for sterilizing it. Miami lost its rap sheet and rap persona, graduated more players, and became an incubator for the ideal of the student athlete. But Shannon could be hailed as a good guy only as long as his team’s record allowed it."
Posted by: solarcane | November 29, 2010 at 09:06 AM

In other words, Shannon did to the Canes what happened to Kirk in "The Enemy Within".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kieg8y265C0

The nice Canes would become ineffectual and unable to make a decision, while the missing part roamed to other schools and gave them championships.

mi@mic@ne

Ug... if we are going to pony up 3 million... i would be talking to Butch... hes already built the kind of Cane team i want to see again...

Ungar

i know they said that head coaching experience is needed but wont be that big of a factor. but what about Auburns offensive coordinator?

Posted by: ZarOKoN | November 29, 2010 at 12:41 PM

How much of his magic is due to Cam Newton? After all, where was Auburn last year? i would rather someone with 12 Coach Of The Year awards on his shelf.

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