Ranking The Recruits: Part II

On Sunday we posted the University of Miami's top 15 recruits of 2011 as selected by Twitter guru "SaveUMFootball" (Papa Cane). 

But with all due respect we have some differences with his rankings.  So today we are posting the Canespace rankings of the 2011 recruits. 

Here is our list and a few comments about each player:

#15: DT Corey King:A wide-bodied (6-1, 270) space eater who will be called on to provide depth along the DL behind expected starters Forston and Regis. King is also living a dream.  This class of 2011 prospect had committed to FIU a week before national signing day, but the Panthers had to back off because King needed to receive a qualifying score on his ACT.  He took the test again and scored an 18 which was good enough to get an offer from the Miami Hurricanes, his dream school since the sixth grade.  Put that in your pipe and smoke it Super Mario!

#14: DE Olsen Pierre:An New Jersey native who became the first recruit ever signed by Golden at UM.  He is an early enrollee who was recruited by Golden while he was still at Temple.  Pierre found his way to Coral Gables this Spring where he has managed to get himself acclimated to his new coaches, teammates and surroundings.  In spite of his head start on the rest of his 2011 classmates we think Pierre may redshirt this season due to the solid depth at DE at UM in 2011.

#13: ATH/LB Eddie Johnson: A three star recruit who played his high school football in Alabama and Georgia. Played both RB and LB in high school.  Another candidate for the MLB spot even though it has been rumored that Golden may give him a shot at RB.  He will likely redshirt this season.

#12: LB Antonio Kinard: Another three star prospect from Ohio who arrived at UM by way of Hargrave Military Academy.  This big boy (6-3, 215) is a tackling machine that runs a 4.6 40 yard dash.  Will provide much needed depth at LB for Miami in 2011. 

#11: DE/LB Ricardo Williams:A local talent and versatile player who was the all-time sack leader at UM LB coach Michael Barrow's high school: Homestead in South Dade.  Williams fits the 3-4 scheme that D'Onofio and Golden are rumored to want to implement at least on a part-time basis at UM.  He gave a strong "Butch" slap to North Carolina head coach Butch Davis when he chose Miami over ACC rival UNC.  We like that! 

#10: WR Rashawn Scott: Another early enrollee at Miami who in our opinion will turn out to be the "sleeper" of this class. Big, tall WR with excellent hands who we strongly believe will impress beyond many fans' expectations. Somebody write that down, OK?  No seriously, write it down!

#9: OL Taylor Gadbois:What's a kid with a hockey name like this doing playing football in Georgia?  Well we like his name and we love the impressive size of this big, burly Peach State product.  We are counting on Swasey and Kehoe to turn this physical offensive lineman into a road grader.  The Canes are solid along the OL so a red shirt is likely in 2011 for this North of the (Florida) border player.

#8 WR Phillip Dorsett:This St. Thomas Aquinas product was another huge "get" for the Miami this year.  Some say that Dorsett reminds them of Roscoe Parrish.  I say he reminds me of former Hurricane Reggie Wayne.  Dorsett has great hands, excellent technique and above average speed to go along with those gifts.  Suddenly, with Miami's WR depth now in question Dorsett could see some playing time this season.

#7: DB/S Dallas Crawford: Not quite as as fast as Grooms but has excellent footwork, is very quick in and out of breaks and has excellent cover skills. Will be looked at to provide depth at the glaringly thin and unsettled CB spot for Miami in 2011. Will be counted on to push the starters and either Crawford or converted RB Eduardo Clements may even work their way into a starting role by the end of the season if one of the upperclassmen (Chambers, McGee, etc.) falters or stumbles.

#6: DT/DE Jalen Grimble:A five-star signing day steal for Golden, Carroll and company. Two words: Unlimited Potential. Some think he will get some playing time this season and may even be the he next Warren Sapp. I think he has an excellent chance to be a great player for the Hurricanes but am not ready to anoint him the next anything until I see him make a spectacular play while wearing "The U" on his helmet. We will all be eagerly watching his progress this Fall as he bulks up under Swasey and gets coached up under D'Onofrio.

#5: LB Gionni Paul:OK, OK I know what you are probably thinking: "That is way to high a ranking for this player!"  My response is: "Wanna bet?"  Another one of the early enrollees for 2011 who has UM defensive coaches openly admitting that they have a man crush on and are salivating over.  Insiders that have seen him at practice tell me that he is not only among the fastest and most athletic LBs in this class but also that they have see in Coral Gables in severalyears.  It will be hard to keep him off of the field at WLB and we predict that he will play early and often in 2011.

#4: RB/PR/KR Kevin Grooms: If speed kills then Kevin Grooms is a lethal weapon. We think that Grooms plays this year primarily on special teams as a kick off or punt returner.  He is a game breaker and a difference-maker type of talent that is as elusive as he is fast.  Blink and you will miss him. We think opposing defenses will blink.

#3: DB Thomas Finnie: An early enrollee at UM from Miami Central HS that was headed out of town to attend college before Golden re-programmed and changed the trajectory on this Rocket. Everyone has to love a player that Golden recently claimed was "The hardest working Hurricane." We like that, yeah we like that a LOT! That and the fact that he plays CB, a position at UM that needs all of the "hard workers" it can find in 2011.

#2: LB Denzel Perryman:This Coral Gables high product will wear #52 at Miami but reminds me of a player who wore #51 at The U: Jonathan Vilma.  Either way many insiders believe that he will become the type of impact player at MLB that the Canes have been searching for over the last several years.  I look forward to seeing #52 live up to the number he will wear and give me several reasons to agree with those "in the know", and soon!

#1 DE Anthony Chickillo:What else can we say about 3G that hasn't already been said?  Beyond his obvious talent on the field he appears to have many of the intangibles to also be a leader in the locker room.  Even if he plays up to only half of the hype he received coming out of HS Hurricane fans will be in for a treat watching "Chick" wreak havoc in opposing team's backfields for the next few years.  Chickillo is the surest bet of any of the players in this class to play early and often in 2011 and be a starter in 2012.

Comments

[2002nemo]

Hey now!

[SOUP]

Nemo does it with STYLE.

[SOUP]

Marlins still up 3-0 over the Angels in the 8th. Could it be?

[OhioCane]

Behind The Facemask: Lamar Miller

"

CORAL GABLES, FLA.--

June 21, 2011

They are stories of perseverance. Stories about growing up, becoming men and being a part of a family. One-by-one, we hear from them. These are the Miami Hurricanes...

25 Things You Don't Know About Lamar Miller

I like to dance a lot of time, just to have fun. My favorite artists are Lil’ Wayne and Rick Ross.

I like to cook for my mom when she’s tired. It depends on what I buy, but I like doing steak and shrimp. I love spaghetti, lasagna, and all Italian food. I don’t know how to make it, but my mom does.
       
I like to play video games too. NCAA and the NBA 2K’s are the ones I play most of the time.

I just got a Twitter, but I like Twitter better than Facebook. Half of the people on Facebook you don’t even really know.

I have a sister; she’s three years older than me. She’s 23.

I’ve got three best friends that I grew up with that I call brothers. Herman, Reggie and Jalani.

I like to have fun, but I love to compete. Mike [James] and I compete for everything.

When I first got here, waking up early for workouts and stuff, I wasn’t used to it. It was tough, but A.J, Mike and I used to help each other get up.

When I first started playing football, I played nose guard. I changed my position after a game when I picked up a fumble and ran past everybody for a touchdown.

I started playing football when I was eight years old. I was too big to play with my age group, so I always played with kids three years older than me.

I played a lot of sports growing up. I played baseball, basketball, and ran track. I even played volleyball for my middle school.

I’ve got seven tattoos. A few are my mom’s name, my grandmother’s name after she passed away, and “Fantastic Four” for my friends from home. I have my initials too. I got them all in high school.

I love Reggie Bush and Clinton Portis. I also watch a lot of film on Frank Gore, but Bush and Portis are my favorites.

When I was growing up, I used to always like Miami. My mom and dad always loved Florida, so I rooted for both teams. When Miami would play Florida, I would root for the Canes though. My mom’s from Gainesville, but now that I’m down here, she roots for us.

I like competition, because it makes me better and the people around me better. Competing makes it fun, going out there everyday and having fun while you’re doing it.

I used to be afraid of airplanes, but now I’m used to them after traveling all the time. I hate dogs. I’m scared of big dogs. Whenever I would walk home growing up, dogs used to chase me up the street, and I’ve always been scared.

Coach Richardson has taught me a lot of things I never knew before, on and off the field. Watching film, blocking schemes, how to take on a defender, ball security, everything.

If I wasn’t playing football, I’d probably be playing another sport…maybe track or basketball.

They call me “Miller Time,” that’s my nickname. But my mom, dad and my family always call me “Boo.” They always have.

It’s good playing with all of the local Miami guys, because when it’s time to work, everyone competes. We have fun, but everybody competes. Playing against them in high school was tough, especially the Northwestern kids. They always used to knock us out of the playoffs. It makes all of us better, playing against each other.

I wasn’t friends with any of them really, but I knew them from playing against them. I met Marcus Forston when I was in 11th grade when he had committed to Miami and he talked to me about schools and where I was looking and stuff like that.

Some of my personal goals are over 150 all-purpose yards per game and to score two touchdowns per game. I want to win every game, win the ACC Coastal Division, and get to the National Championship.

I’m superstitious sometimes now. If I wore something the week before and had a good game, I’ll wear the same thing. If I had a bad game, I try to change it up and not do the same things I did the week before.

The kick-off return at Ohio State was the highlight of my career so far. It was only the second college game I had ever played in. I was having flashbacks to when I played Northwestern and I told my friends I was going to take a kick back this season. When they kicked it, I made a couple guys miss and ended up scoring.

I try to score every time I touch the ball. When I run the ball, I have to be patient and read the blockers and defensive scheme. On kick returns, you have to hit it and make guys miss."

tinyurl.com/3vfmxqx

[WindyCane-Forcast1]

Its more about the head and the heart than the rankings

Posted by: Loco | June 21, 2011 at 08:10 PM

There IT is right there.

Posted by: SOUP | June 21, 2011 at 09:18 PM

My sentiments exactly!

[WindyCane-Forcast1]

"Coach Richardson has taught me a lot of things I never knew before, on and off the field. Watching film, blocking schemes, how to take on a defender, ball security, everything."

There now is coaching to go along with this S. Fla. talent. The Canes are going to have a big year!

[SOUP]

LM#6: "When I first started playing football, I played nose guard. I changed my position after a game when I picked up a fumble and ran past everybody for a touchdown."

And the rest is history....

[solarcane]

Its more about the head and the heart than the rankings

Posted by: Loco | June 21, 2011 at 08:10 PM

Right Loco that's what I said too.

Rivals,Scout, and ESPN are in college football for one reason, to make money.
Your guy is in a region with lots of subscribers he is 4 stars with 2 star credentials.

Eventualy the majority of fans will get it.
Same reason Spence is on the cover of ACC magzines in South Florida and Luke Kuechly from Boston College is on the same issue sold up north.

[SOUP]

Solar...nice work on the blob lately bringin all the 411. Thanks once again for all U do around here!

I'm out tomorrow for most of the day. Keep an eye on the place and tidy up if U can?

[solarcane]

you got it boss man

[SOUP]

Ohio...wanted to let U know we are getting recognized behind the scenes for our work on Twitter by some people who are some of "the people" that matter.

Thanks for your contributions!

[OhioCane]

SOUP - That's great! U are very welcome. Like I always say, I do what I can when I can.

[SOUP]

University of Miami head men's basketball coach Jim Larranaga is in high demand.

Over his first two months, Miami's new coach has been busy assembling his staff and getting to know his team, in addition to meeting with local leaders and becoming a part of the Miami community. While the Hurricanes are excited about their new coach with his Final Four pedigree, that enthusiasm has also spread to the community as the first two weeks of the 2011 Jim Larranaga Basketball Camp sold out. This week alone, there has been up to 30 children on the waiting list for the camp for boys between the ages of seven and 17.

Registration is currently being accepted for the final two sessions of the five-day camps - from July 11-15 and July 25-29. For $275 per session, kids receive daily individual instruction, game play, all-you-can-eat lunch, a camp t-shirt and a camp basketball. In addition, there are tremendous guest lecturers, many awards given with each age group and a championship series played on the final day.

[Six]

Crocs will win the CWS

The teams in the CWS and the difference in HRs they hit between 2010 and 2011

Team, HR ('10), HR ('11)

South Carolina 97 .. 45
Florida 83 .. 67
Texas 81 .. 17
Texas A&M 67 .. 29
Vandy 63 .. 47
Virginia 61 .. 24
North Carolina 45 .. 39
Cal 45 .. 31

Miami 106 .. 33

I wonder how in the hell these teams even made it to Omaha using these new bats b/c those bats limited the Canes so much ... as did players that signed with MLB teams instead of Miami - b/c they're the only team that happened to as well in the country ...

sorry ass excuses

[SOUP]

Six...looks like UF or UNC.

[solarcane]

Photos from Clarence Clemon's memorial service in WPB today
Heat president Pat Riley attends and pays his respect.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/palm-beach/sfl-clarence-clemons-memorial06212011cfs.pictures,0,6100570.photogallery

[solarcane]

ACC/ESPN

Allegations against UNC 'major'

By Heather Dinich

The unpaid parking tickets of several UNC football players pale in comparison to the 42-page document the NCAA just buried the University of North Carolina in.

This isn't just Butch Davis' problem. Consider it now a 'major' problem for UNC's football program, athletic department, and overall institution.

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Former assistant coach John Blake was sent one of three letters from the NCAA regarding allegations against the North Carolina football program.The NCAA wrote three separate letters to former UNC assistant coach John Blake, former UNC tutor Jennifer Wiley, and UNC chancellor Holden Thorp, informing them of the allegations against the football program:

"You should understand that all of the allegations charged in the notice of allegations are considered to be potential major violations of NCAA legislation, unless designated as secondary violations."

North Carolina has officially joined much of the college football world in the summer of discontent.

After a year-long investigation into North Carolina's football program, the university today released a 42-page document detailing the allegations, and it's not pretty:

Page 20: It was reported that during the 2009-10 academic year and August 2010, Jennifer Wiley, former academic support center tutor, provided approximately $3,500 in impermissible extra benefits to football student-athletes. ... Wiley paid $150 for an airline ticket in May 2010, and $ 1,789 in parking violation expenses on August 20, 2010, for then football student-athlete ...
Page 23: It was reported that during 2009 and 2010, seven football student athletes received $27,097.38 in benefits from individuals, some of whom trigger NCAA agent legislation.
Page 33: It is alleged that from 2007 to 2010, then assistant football coach John Blake partnered with Gary Wichard, National Football League Players Association (NFLPA) certified agent, and Pro Tect Management to represent individuals in the marketing of their athletic abilities in violation of NCAA legislation. Specifically, Blake was employed and compensated by Pro Tect Management to influence football student-athletes to hire Wichard to represent them in marketing their athletic abilities and reputations.
Page 35: It is alleged that from May 2007 to October 2009, then assistant football coach John Blake did not report $31,000 in athletically related outside income from Pro Tect Management, a sports agency representing athletes competing in the National Football League, National Basketball League and Major League Baseball.

Davis loyalists will be happy to know that no letters were specifically addressed to him, and that his name is only mentioned once in the entire document, in the context that the NCAA would like him to appear before the NCAA's Committee on Infractions on October 28.

There were, however, allegations that the "institution" failed to properly monitor the conduct of Chris Hawkins, who was allowed access to the facilities and participated in one-on-one drills with the players. And the "institution" failed to monitor the social networking of the players in 2010. And here's the kicker ... the "institution" did not follow-up on information that "indicated a risk of improper benefits being provided when reported by [a student athlete] to administrators within the football program."

Somebody knew something was going on and "the institution" let it continue.

North Carolina has 90 days to respond to this, and considering the massive, overwhelming amount of information the NCAA is seeking -- documents, transcripts, receipts, former players' previous Tweets, phone records, Blake's credit reports -- odds are the university is going to need every one of them.

It's far from over. The NCAA wants answers. Lots of them.

How much Davis really knew now only seems like part of the equation.

This is bigger than Butch Davis.

[orange 'n green in the vein]

So I can't find anybody actually reporting whether lack of institutional control is being alleged for Butch's team? You read The Brow's summary and she hints at it being levied three times, but is it an actual formal charge or not? When your assistant coach is a runner for an agent, how can it be avoided?

[Sarasota 'cane]

Butch is toast! Karma: It's what's for dinner!

Go 'canes!

[solarcane]

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ACC Insider

CHAPEL HILL – The guessing game is finally over.

We now know exactly what infractions the NCAA is accusing the North Carolina football program of committing and approximately when the punishment for those nine major rules violations will be handed down.

We can also formulate a conclusion based on some of the language the NCAA used in its Notice of Allegations to the Tar Heels – which finally arrived in Chapel Hill on Tuesday – that coach Butch Davis and his program should start bracing for more than just a slap on the wrist.

The terms “failing to monitor the conduct and administration of the football program” and “providing false and misleading” information to NCAA investigators are damning, to say the least.

Even worse is the passage that accuses former assistant coach John Blake of partnering with the late sports agent Gary Wichard “to represent individuals in marketing their athletic abilities” – thus officially labeling Davis’ one-time confidant as a “runner.”

And yet, as potentially damaging as the allegations are, things could have been much worse.

Despite widespread agent activity both on and off campus and the fact that an athletic department tutor not only helped commit academic fraud, but also provided players with money for travel and parking tickets, the NCAA stopped short of charging UNC with a lack of institutional control.

That’s likely the result of the school’s decision to err on the side of caution by holding players out of action last season, even a few who were cleared of any wrongdoing, along with the plausible deniability Davis has maintained from Day 1.

Blake

Those factors will likely spare the Tar Heels of the bowl ban that was the centerpiece of sanctions handed down in a recent case involving Southern Cal.

But they won’t completely insulate the Tar Heels, either.

The NCAA gave an indication of that by denying UNC’s request for a “summary disposition” of the case.

It’s a decision that will require Davis, athletic director Dick Baddour, chancellor Holden Thorp and several other athletic department and compliance office officials to appear before the NCAA’s committee on infractions in Indianapolis on Oct. 28 – the day before the Tar Heels are scheduled to play ACC rival Wake Forest.

Barring some kind of 11th hour revelation that causes the penalties to be stiffened even further, UNC will likely be asked to vacate its victories for the 2008 and ’09 seasons, be placed on probation for 2-3 years and be docked a significant number of scholarships.

Regardless of the punishment that is handed out, it won’t sting nearly as bad as the damage this forgettable episode has done to the Tar Heels’ once pristine reputation for doing things the right way.

Austin

Thorp, Baddour and Davis can crow all they like about their level of cooperation with the NCAA. But the indisputable fact, spelled out in black and White Out on the redacted Notice of Allegations released to the public, is that Blake, tutor Jennifer Wiley, players Marvin Austin, Greg Little and many others interviewed about their roles in the scandal were less than truthful in their statements to the NCAA.

Like a rusty old trophy from a bygone era gathering dust in the back corner of a display case, “The Carolina Way” is now a thing of the past.

“We made mistakes, and we have to face that,” Thorp admitted in a statement Tuesday.

One of the biggest mistakes was allowing a culture of entitlement to grow and flourish within the football program.

Star players had their hands out. Others skirted their academic responsibilities. And all did so seemingly without fear of being caught or punished for their actions.

Regardless of whose names are or aren’t included among the specific charges, Davis – as the man at the top – must ultimately be held responsible. And yet somehow he has yet to pay any kind of price for his “failure to monitor the conduct and administration” of his staff and team.

How that has happened remains a mystery.

It’s the one guessing game that didn’t come to an end Tuesday

[solarcane]

"Barring some kind of 11th hour revelation that causes the penalties to be stiffened even further, UNC will likely be asked to vacate its victories for the 2008 and ’09 seasons, be placed on probation for 2-3 years and be docked a significant number of scholarships"

And so ends the charade that was "The Carolina Way"

[orange 'n green in the vein]

Man, when did Butch go so off the beaten path? For a guy who did it the right way restocking Miami I'm just stunned he went so astray back in the college game.

The only thing more confusing to me now would be if Leonard Hamilton suddenly goes rogue up in the capital of the State of Speed to complete the heel turn of the UM coaching contemporaries from the real golden age of Miami men's centerpiece sports.

[Old Skool]

So when you vacate a victory, does that mean Randy's record improves?

[Big Daddy Cane]

does anybody on this site have any idea wth 4-real would like out of this class?

Posted by: ftmcane

HILARIOUS!! I was laughing my rear off when I read that.

[Big Daddy Cane]

Papa Cane - Lots of rumors going around a possible new commitment. I have not seen any concrete and reliable information. Until then, no news.

>>>>This appears to be Reggie Northrup 6'2'' 220 pound LB from J'Ville.

[Big Daddy Cane]

BTW... Did I read this right? Lt. SOLAR is running the show! Well congrats, SOUP left you the keys to the Ferrari.

[SOUP]

And so ends the charade that was "The Carolina Way"

Posted by: solarcane | June 22, 2011 at 12:28 AM

There IT is right there.

[SOUP]

Ohio...I made a lot of noise on Twitter last night and sent the link to the article to a bunch of UM contacts.

Send the article to SaveUMFootball today and see if we can get him to post a comment here on the blog.

Solar...U got this? I'm off to the 352 and out until later tonight.

[2002nemo]

Too bad Butch, life's a Bitch.

[raizecane]

Butch is toast! Karma: It's what's for dinner!

Go 'canes!

Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | June 22, 2011 at 12:08 AM

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Not so fast......accroding to Bill KIng, Butch's name is not mentioned in the allegations. Therfore, he should still have his job. Just passing info I heard as recent as this morning.

[Big Daddy Cane]

Not so fast......accroding to Bill KIng, Butch's name is not mentioned in the allegations. Therfore, he should still have his job. Just passing info I heard as recent as this morning.

>>>>>The implications are still on Butch though. He brought in the players. The HC is ultimately responsible for what players he brings in and he is supposed to vet their behavioral situations (character).

[canechic]

Butch will NOT survive this because he is the leader and his followers have strayed therefore the leader has failed. I think that is an old Chinese proverb...LOL! ;)

[SOUP]

Please comment on the rankingof the recruits.

Where do you agree or diagree?

Which player will make the most impact in 2011?

Which player will have the best carreer at UM?

[Big Daddy Cane]

I agree 100% with #1,2,3 Denzel Perryman will be an absoloute nightmare by the time he leaves. My favorite recruit out of this bunch is Taylor Gadbois..watch out for that kid.

[canechic]

Soup the one who has his head on right will win a spot on my list. With last season as my only way to judge these players....they have a long way to go. I hope they are working hard learning and being serious for next season. Act like a team, have each others back, give it all you got on every play of the game and I bet you will be successful player!

[Ohio_Cane]

Ohio...I made a lot of noise on Twitter last night and sent the link to the article to a bunch of UM contacts.

Posted by: SOUP | June 22, 2011 at 07:56 AM

I made one as well, but was to every follower of ours telling them to come over to the Space and share their opinions.

[Ohio_Cane]

All Papa Cane - Remember the name Reggie Northrop. He is a highly regarded LB out of Jacksonville, FL. 6'2" and 220 lbs. Visiting this week.

Visiting Thursday: WR Jody Fuller, 6-foot and 200 lbs. Runs a 4.4 forty. South Carolina is his #1 right now.

Name To Remember: 4-Star TE Sean Price, 6'4'' and 215 lbs, out of North Marion HS in Florida. Its between Miami and USF.

Name To Remember: 4-Star OG Daniel Isidora, 6'3'' and 336 lbs, rom Cypress Bay HS. He really likes Miami, and they really like him.

[canechic]

All of these guys you are reporting are just verbals right? They all still have an entire year left to play in high school right?

If this is true, I would neither get excited nor disappointed with these guys. Lots of things can happen in their senior year!

[Big Daddy Cane]

Wow...Canechic is on a rampage this morning!

[ftmcane]

ohio does such a great job of getting me excited about future prospects, however 4-real and CC do an even better job of stealing the wind from my sail. downers of the site if you ask me. LOL

[Ohio_Cane]

All of these guys you are reporting are just verbals right? They all still have an entire year left to play in high school right?

If this is true, I would neither get excited nor disappointed with these guys. Lots of things can happen in their senior year!

Posted by: canechic | June 22, 2011 at 09:10 AM
------------------------------------------

Yes, and agreed.

Which is why I said in an earlier blog to not look too much into all these commits.

It's great to have a lot of commits, but there's gonna be some that sign elsewhere and will be others committed to other schools that will sign here.

[Big Daddy Cane]

SOLAR HELP!!!! lol.

[raizecane]

Butch will NOT survive this because he is the leader and his followers have strayed therefore the leader has failed. I think that is an old Chinese proverb...LOL! ;)

Posted by: canechic | June 22, 2011 at 08:46 AM

CC - I bet you a beer he survives this year... :-)

[Big Daddy Cane]

Please comment on the rankingof the recruits.

Where do you agree or diagree?

Which player will make the most impact in 2011?

Which player will have the best carreer at UM?

Posted by: SOUP | June 22, 2011 at 08:46 AM

BDC

[canechic]

I don't think so raize cuz they need a fall guy. He is an outsider and he was in charge....I say it will be a mass firing.

Guys just trying to be real....having been with kids and some football player kids through their sr year I promise things change. They get girlfriends, their grades slip, god for bide get injured.....just way to many things can and will happen.

Reporting the commits is fine, it is just way too early to judge. Goodness in a couple of years we will be getting commits in 8th grade.....oh vay!

[canechic]

Raize sorry I saw you said this year. Yep he may survive this year but not sure about the years thereafter. Anyway should be interesting to see it play out :)

[dj moonbat]

Man, when did Butch go so off the beaten path? For a guy who did it the right way restocking Miami I'm just stunned he went so astray back in the college game.

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | June 22, 2011 at 01:06 AM

Frankly, I think it's at least as likely that Butch just managed to avoid getting caught while he was at Miami.

It's much simpler than trying to explain how: a) he managed to be squeaky clean, while b) overcoming a scholarship reduction specifically designed to hurt recruiting, and c) building the most talented squad in recent memory during that time, and then d) at his next college stop suddenly surrounded himself with lowlifes.

[Ohio_Cane]

For those interested in the details of UNC's allegations:

http://espn.go.com/photo/2011/0621/allegations_2.pdf

[solarcane]

Posted by: Big Daddy Cane | June 22, 2011 at 07:48 AM

BDC,

naw, I've just had the keys to the dumpster on here for the last 4 years. I'm just the janitor.

You would be pretty surprised to see the amount of stupid troll stuff I have to kill before it makes it on here.

The regular canespacers are always great about keeping the blog running smooth.

[solarcane]

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[solarcane]

dj,
Butch Davis is actually Anakin Skywalker?

[dj moonbat]

Butch Davis is actually Anakin Skywalker?

Posted by: solarcane | June 22, 2011 at 10:18 AM

Now we're getting somewhere.

[4-Real]

ftmcane, this is your 2nd post in which u take a cheap shot @ me 4 expressing my opinion. If u don't wanna feel my wrath then I suggest u keep my name outta yo keypad lol

[4-Real]

ftmcane, this is your 2nd post in which u take a cheap shot @ me 4 expressing my opinion. If u don't wanna feel my wrath then I suggest u keep my name outta yo keypad lol

[4-Real]

ftmcane, this is your 2nd post in which u take a cheap shot @ me 4 expressing my opinion. If u don't wanna feel my wrath then I suggest u keep my name outta yo keypad lol

[4-Real]

sorry 4 the multiple post...cheap ass keypad :(

[Ohio_Cane]

3,725.10

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Posted by: solarcane | June 22, 2011 at 10:11 AM
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I think 1/3 of that is me refreshing the page all day lol

[dj moonbat]

ftmcane, this is your 2nd post in which u take a cheap shot @ me 4 expressing my opinion. If u don't wanna feel my wrath then I suggest u keep my name outta yo keypad lol

Posted by: 4-Real | June 22, 2011 at 10:24 AM

4-Real, this is your third post taking issue with ftmcane's posts. :)

[Big Daddy Cane]

LOL Solar

[solarcane]

What if this happened

Jim Tressel HC
Mike leach OC
Butch Davis DC and head of recruiting

all go to say USF
Four years later

Bulls NC.

[solarcane]

If u don't wanna feel my wrath then I suggest u keep my name outta yo keypad lol

Posted by: 4-Real | June 22, 2011 at 10:24 AM
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Obviously 4 real is not shytin, you see how many times his keypad throws down compared to the average guys??
i'm jus sayin

[solarcane]

aight,
I have to go pick up my broken lawn tractor, from the guy that charged me $61.00 to tell me it's still broken.

be back in later

[dj moonbat]

I have to go pick up my broken lawn tractor, from the guy that charged me $61.00 to tell me it's still broken.

be back in later

Posted by: solarcane | June 22, 2011 at 10:38 AM

Consider yourself lucky: at least it's not your doctor. Then, it costs more, and if you're still broken, it's not as easy to fix as just buying a new tractor.

[Herbieibis]

Perryman, Dorsett, Finnie, Grooms, Grimmbal, Crawford, Johnson & maybe Pierre, Simply because we are going to need help up Front.I rather see Pierre, Johnson & Dorsett reshirt, Dorsett more so because of the number of WR's we have coming back.

[ftmcane]

dj's got my back!

[canechic]

yeah dj like spending $1200 for the vets to tell me my dog is sick. And to just say that it could be one of 3 things. And then to say it will cost a mere $4000 to find the exact cause but that there will be no cure. Hey thanks guys!

[dj moonbat]

yeah dj like spending $1200 for the vets to tell me my dog is sick.

Posted by: canechic | June 22, 2011 at 10:50 AM

Hey, how is she doing?

[ftmcane]

4-real, you didn't answer. what would you like out of this recruiting class? you seem dissapointed with every get.

[4-Real]

the multiple post is proof I ain't fn around solar! U only get 3 warnings lol

[dj moonbat]

the multiple post is proof I ain't fn around solar! U only get 3 warnings lol

Posted by: 4-Real | June 22, 2011 at 10:55 AM

The multi-post thing used to happen much more often. It was like living with Rain Man or something.

[canechic]

She is better, she is taking prednisone and is eating. This treatment however is just temporary....today is not starting out to be a good day. If she has cancer I am not sure how long she has to live. Just taking one day at a time with her and hoping for the best.

[4-Real]

I'm not disappointed with the recruiting ftm, just a little concerned that to much time & effort is being spent on the summer campers where as the all-americans seem 2 b getting ignored right now..jmo

[raizecane]

4-real - these 'summer campers' will one day be all-americans. The future is looking bright.

[ftmcane]

isn't this a down period when coaches can't contact recruits? having camps which everyone is currently doing, is a way i assume to get kids on your campus without breaking the rules. Please correct me if i'm wrong.

[Herbieibis]

4-real I'm feeling your pain dog, on us letting the Double A's slide off into the sunset, while we're taking verbals left & right from some no names based on what they see in camp and not in pads. It's nice to know that some of these cats have greased hips but lets see what they do in games. I also understand that verbals are not binding so some of these dudes will never make it here. Hopefully these guys know what their doing because they act like they got to get this recruitng headache out of the way before July 1ST, so they all can go on a cruise.
I believe we do get Northrup & the T.E. Price at least those are news makers, who most agree will make an impact and are great gets for us, if they were to sign.

Can U believe that Fos Sports has the Flipping Seminoles as their #1 team. What these guys been smoking. Okie will bomb those dudes. Manuel is another Jabonney, great one game and a dud the next. He's not the QB to get them over the hump and if they look at us the wrong way, will slap the snot bubbles out of them, like we have so many times before.

[OhioCane]

InsideTheU - "Miami head coach Al Golden is personally recruiting RB Drew Harris, who has rushed for over 3,900 yards and 58 touchdowns in the last two seasons."

[OhioCane]

Herbie - Golden was recruiting kids to play at TEMPLE, and had 2-3 kids go pro this yr. I trust him completely in recruiting and development.

[raizecane]

Herb - FSU is not #1 in my book either but they will be very strong this year. So strong that if you asked me now, they would be favorites to win the ACC. Of course I say this with while not wearing my Hurricane Glasses.

I am with Ohio.....In Golden We Must Trust

[canechic]

Again everybody wait it out. I understand what 4real is saying and his concern. We have spent years saying trust and hope and really as fans have only been left with very subpar seasons and players.

I understand recruiting really is a crap shoot. Some kids may turn out to be good and some busts. You can only identify "athletes" in a weekend camp. They might be good and they might not. My realistic side says most of these kids will sign elsewhere and those who really want to be canes will remain. Many more factors will play into actually signing than just these kids physical talents....this is Miami's reality. We cannot offer money or cars, we cannot cut slack on grades (even though to me the requirements are very low and if you cannot make this cut than.......) and questionable behavior will not be tolerated.

I will choose to wait and see. I just hope to see some more leaders on the team this year. I want to hear more stories about players organizing practices and work out sessions. Less b1tch sessions and more work sessions. Less Xbox tourneys and more study sessions. This will make me see that this team means business, will be honoring their scholarship this season and start playing some quality football.

[UMike]

I dont think these kids got offers just because of their performance at camp..imo..i think these were players we already scouted or evaluated and just had a chance to talk to and see in person in the camp. I haven't heard any of these kids say "well I didn't hear anything from miami, then at camp i got an offer"..most of what I read is "miami was interested before camp..." again...imo...also, I don't think it matters how quickly we get commits. at the end of the day I'm sure we will have room, or make room for the "all americans" (we have no idea who will be an AA) if they want in...if we arent on these kids early we may loose out to the likes of wake forest, clemson, louisville etc...then we will complain that we weren't on them soon enough lol... I mean, these are mostly, if not all Florida kids that were keeping home. I will trust the system because I cant remember the last 5 star recruit working out at miami..although i believe A. Brown will do ok, I think he is good just in Shannons doghouse. Every spring game or practice I saw, A. brown was everywhere making plays....jmo of course.

[Herbieibis]

Look, I like what Golden is doing too. Where were all these evaluation camps before. Now we are getting a birdseye view of the talent from all over but dangling schollies out to every Tom, Dick & Harry, to me is going to cause us some headaches down the road. You know some of these Prima Donnas are going to wait till signing day and do the hat thing. At the rate we're going, will we have any schollies left to offer. There are still some big names left out there, especially at DB & WR, which along with D-Tackle are the areas to me, we need to really concentrate on.

[UMike]

Herbie,..I definitely see your point, I just assume the coaches know what their doing in that regard. With people transferring or being dismissed that opened up a few more schollies. Also, just because a kid says he got an offer at camp doesn't mean he actually did...imo...I think some of these 3-star florida kids are the kids in past years that go on to duke, wake forest etc and then kill us when we play and we all wonder why we didn't recruit them. I don't think their offering schollies to every kid they see, im sure they have done their homework on these kids. If he can send kids from Temple to the nfl through the draft, I trust his methods. I would rather risk a schollie on a 3-star florida kid than a 4 or 5 star kansas kid lol...jmo of course

[Loco]

Is anybody from in/around Bradenton? And know where are good places to live?

I just got accepted to Lake Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine and need to find a place to live haha

[Ohio_Cane]

As far as the people who are worried about stars after a high school players name... Keep in mind, Anthony Chickillo was a 2-star this time last year. Now look at him.

That said, relax if we offer a 2-star, 3-star, 4-star, etc. 1: Stars don't matter anyways. 2: They may gain more by the time Signing Day comes around.

[canechic]

Yay Loco that is awesome....six will be your best guide for info on Tampa.

[canechic]

Ohio stars mean nothing wasn't Ryan Moore a 5 star wr.....he was another one with a bad Mary Jane habit. And this I know from one of his daddy's close friends.

[Ohio_Cane]

Ohio stars mean nothing wasn't Ryan Moore a 5 star wr.....he was another one with a bad Mary Jane habit. And this I know from one of his daddy's close friends.

Posted by: canechic | June 22, 2011 at 01:16 PM
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Bah, that name makes me sad. I had such high hopes for that kid... Shame.

[dj moonbat]

Ohio stars mean nothing wasn't Ryan Moore a 5 star wr.....he was another one with a bad Mary Jane habit. And this I know from one of his daddy's close friends.

Posted by: canechic | June 22, 2011 at 01:16 PM

Such a shame. Life is too short to spend it smoking bad Mary Jane.

That's why I moved to the West Coast.

[canechic]

LOL DJ!

I don't advocate smoking of any type, since I know smoking killed my Dad but if you kids smoke the Mary Jane at least have a work ethic like Ricki Williams. Never ever see that guy take a play off.

To me alcohol is and can be just as bad as weed. One is just legal and one not...but since it is illegal you get caught and there are consequences.

[Big Daddy Cane]

the multiple post is proof I ain't fn around solar! U only get 3 warnings lol

Posted by: 4-Real | June 22, 2011 at 10:55 AM

The multi-post thing used to happen much more often. It was like living with Rain Man or something.

Posted by: dj moonbat | June 22, 2011 at 11:02 AM

>>>>>>LMAO @ DJ MOONBAT, FN hilarious!

[raizecane]

Herb - I spoke to AG and he told me that by offering every Tom, Dick, and Harry, the higher profile players are saying "hey, we better jump on this bandwagon or there won't be any room for me".

He is using that Psychology degree to the fullest.

[raizecane]

Yay Loco that is awesome....six will be your best guide for info on Tampa.

Posted by: canechic | June 22, 2011 at 01:14 PM

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Only if you are looking for the best adult establishments, haha

[CaneRock]

Herbieibis, if Golden believes in the "star" system more than He believes in His ability to MOTIVATE,DEVELOP A PROGRAM, and COACH, then He AIN'T worth His salt in coaching, and that goes for any coach for that matter. Same thing goes for the "Prima Donas", if they believe in their abilities, and they KNOW that they can start at any program that they walk into, then it won't matter how many schollies we have left to offer in February, their abilities, and the coaching staff doing their math will take care of that.

And as far as us "slapping the snot bubbles" out of FSU...yeah...I agree with the "slap" part, we sure as hell "slapped" them last season...BUT WHAT GOOD WAS "SLAPPING" WHEN FSU PROCEEDED TO KICK THE PISS OUT OF OUR ASSES!!! Hell, their CBs were hitting harder than our LBs, Damien Berry and Laron Byrd will tell you that.

[Six]

86 - it's gonna be UiF that wins it all ... called it at the beginning of the season, way too much depth even with their young players and those kids can hit - esp. the local Tampa kid, Preston Tucker (Plant High), who is just lighting it up in post-season play (18 RBI in 8 Games) and will basically return for his Senior Year b/c he wasn't taken until the 16th Round for some reason

That kid is going to shatter Croc hitting records next year - even with the new bats

And, the Crocs are going to be even more scary next year - their recruiting is insane, just for instance them landing the 2 studs off of Bishop Verot High for next year's class ... big big boys, a power hitting 1Baseman (Daniel Vogelbach 6'0 260 lbs) and Pitcher (Hudson Boyd 6'2 245 lbs).

When I mean big, I mean very large kids - Vogelbach looked like he could've been on Biggest Loser, but he can freakin mash at the plate. Their pitcher is a front line kid, he took yoga in the off season before this year to help with his flexibility and overall thinking on the mound - he said that he'd do yoga for an hour, go through an entire game in his head, pitch by pitch, before he even physically pitched

Hudson Boyd
http://www.baseballfactory.com/images/400x300Stills/HudsonBoydStillBig.jpg

Daniel Vogelbach
http://www.power-showcase.com/?page_id=1715

Ah, the days of when we could talk about Canes baseball being like this

[solarcane]

All these years of I have hated Notre Dame I thought they were Notre Dame, South Bend Indiana.

Then I find out they are
Notre Dame, Notre Dame Indiana 46556

What the hell...they think they are the Vatican?

[solarcane]

Six this is for you, just off Tosh.0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBa8GTQLs_c

[Big Daddy Cane]

Lakeland (FL) Victory Christian Academy athlete Demeitre Brim is a 6-foot-3, 200-pounder, he is being recruited as an offensive athlete. Currently he is commited to Virginia. Miami is closing in fast on him though.

[360Cane]

Are we really upset we've offered our camp MVP a schollie? Last year we were upset we didn't have enough commits. Now we're upset we have too many.

Too many flip-floppers around here. Make your damn minds up.

[Six]

raizecane - ah man, don't hate, hahaha

Loco - there are a lot of nice little joints around Bradenton .. even Craigslist has some nice apartments listed there, but isn't that place that you got accepted near Lakewood Ranch?

That's a real nice little area man, if you go to University Parkway, right off of 75, down near Lakewood Ranch Medical Center - you'll see Dick Vitale eating breakfast there all .. the .. time. Every time I've been there, he's always there, he sits outside, right in front where the door is. Lots of good eating joints around there, lots of hot chicks/mommas walking around all around there as well

On the other side of 75 on University Parkway, lots of places to live

Just south of that is Fruitville Road and then Bee Ridge Road - TONS of places to live off of those roads - then the next exit is Clark Road, which is what you take to get to Siesta Key

Ellenton is right up the road, north of Lakewood Ranch not far at all. Sarasota is just south of Lakewood Ranch. Siesta Key isn't that far from there, about 20 mins maybe depending on how fast you drive

IMG Academy isn't that far away either, so you can go chill with those cats and hang with Chris Weinke or Dan Morgan there

[Big Daddy Cane]

Jacksonville (FL) First Coast High School LB Reggie Northrup is taking an unofficial visit to Miami today.

And, if all goes well, he could be a Hurricane by the end of the day ... or the end of the week.

NICE PICKUP