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November 20, 2011

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CaneRock

1ST!!!
AND WHAT!!!
CAN YA' SMELL THAT!!!

8th Man in the Box

completely behind the administration decision to skip the bowl. Its the upper classmen actions that led to this, therefore its them that should suffer for it. I think we definitely could use the extra 15 bowl practices, but its incoming classes that should be given priority.

Texascane

It always amazes me that this group gets more angry after a win than after a loss...just go back and look at the posts after VT,Virginia...even Maryland...

They played a close game and finally won one...maybe a 38-35 loss at VT is better than a win...after all we scored a bunch...

Texascane

No bowl game...at least now no one will have to bitch in December...

Montreal-Cane

Will it be the last game of Al Golden at Miami on friday?

I hope not!

Texascane

They should have suspended the 12 players for the bowl, given the bowl money to a charity and then played the game and dared the NCAA to punish them for it...

SOUP

CORAL GABLES, Fla. -- The University of Miami has made the decision to withhold the UM football team from bowl consideration following the 2011 regular season in response to the ongoing NCAA inquiry and has informed both the NCAA and the Atlantic Coast Conference of its decision.

We understand and share the disappointment that our student-athletes, coaches, staff, supporters and fans are feeling but after lengthy discussions among University leaders, athletic administrators and outside counsel, it is a necessary step for our University. The University of Miami has not self-imposed any other penalties.

The team was informed of the decision earlier today and is in preparations for their final game of the season.
As we stated in August, the University of Miami maintains the highest standards in our academic and athletic endeavors and we will remain steadfast in our commitment to building winning programs with the utmost of integrity. We will be more vigilant in our compliance efforts and continue to work cooperatively with the NCAA on the joint inquiry to determine the true facts.
To continue to protect the integrity of the inquiry, the University will not comment further at this time.

Posted by: Montreal-Cane | November 20, 2011 at 04:37 PM

BEERicane

If Miami were 10-0 at this point would the decision be the same?

SOUP

Will it be the last game of Al Golden at Miami on friday?

I hope not!

Posted by: Montreal-Cane | November 20, 2011 at 05:43 PM

FROM WHAT I AM TOLD AL GOLDEN IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

And I was told by ULTRA reliable sources (not Da Skreetz, someone at UM) that we do NOT have to worry about Al going to Penn State.

That's ALL I can say, take it for what it is worth.

SOUP

If Miami were 10-0 at this point would the decision be the same?

Posted by: BEERicane | November 20, 2011 at 05:50 PM

OK, I'll bite: Probably NOT.

I think the decision was based on practical reasons as much as it was based on principles.

SHHHHHHhhhhh...but don't tell the NCAA that!

2002nemo

I called it, didn't I?
No bowl game . . . No surprise.
When we won our sixth game we immediately became self-bowl-ban eligible. Hence, the U's announcement.

One has to wonder, however, what U would have done if the team was still in contention for the ACC title and a BCS bowl game?

One also has to wonder how much more severe the NCAA sanctions will be? A lousy bowl ban probably won't suffice.

SOUP

It always amazes me that this group gets more angry after a win than after a loss...just go back and look at the posts after VT,Virginia...even Maryland...

Posted by: Texascane | November 20, 2011 at 05:40 PM

We always bitch about POOR PERFORMANCE. It really has less to do with winning or losing than PERFORMANCE.

If U are content with a 6-3 win over USF then have at it. That was an unmotivated effort and a poor performance by Fisch, J12, the Oline and really the entire offense any way U slice it.

When the hero of the game is your PUNTER then U know everything that needs to be said. The defense DID play well, I'll give them that.

longtimecanefan

after yesterday's performance (or lack there of) a bowl game would only offer us a chance to get stomped on national tv.

I agree, the smart play is to sit this one out, hope the NCAA gets happy with it, and start the prep for next season.

Montreal-Cane

Posted by: SOUP | November 20, 2011 at 05:52 PM

SOUP it's good to hear but Al should make a strong statement to this effect and send the right message to have a top notch recruiting class.

dg

Right decision...Now lets see how the seniors play against BC.

SOUP

Nemo...U did call the "NO BOWL GAME" as did PapaCane on Twitter. Certainly there will be more penalties but not as bad as first thought is my guess.

SOUP

SOUP it's good to hear but Al should make a strong statement to this effect and send the right message to have a top notch recruiting class.

Posted by: Montreal-Cane | November 20, 2011 at 06:09 PM

Al and his agent are still in a negotiating posture with UM and rightfully so after what they did to him with the whole scandal issue so U will not hear him say anything reassuring until that process is completed.

I believe that his agent is spreading false rumors about Al to PSU to those that will listen like @SPORTSbyBROOKS on Twitter to reinforce their bargaining position and make UM act quickly.

Once contractual issues are resolved going forward then U will have all of the reassuring words and actual legal proof in the form of a new contract that U will need.

The time off from the bowl game will deal with that issue and also help with recruiting this year AND next.

TRUST ME!

orange 'n green in the vein

At first I was like:

Your blog-master ... was seduced by the Dark Side of the Force. He ceased to be Tom Popadak and "became" SOUP. When that happened, the good man who was your blog-master was destroyed. So what I told you was true... from a certain point of view.

But then I was like:

You underestimate the power of the Dark Side. If you will not fight, then you will meet your destiny.

Sarasota 'cane

Completly agree Soup! Al has no obligation to say a word about his status until the school makes him a strong offer.

Go 'canes!

longtimecanefan

will be interesting to see how the team responds for the BC game.

We'll see if we finish 6-6.....

orange 'n green in the vein

[Donna tries to convince Al not to go to a bowl]
Donna: You must not go!
Al: But Denzel and Dorsett will fail to develop if I don't.
[Jimmy Johnson's Force-spirit suddenly appears]
J-J: You don't know that. Even Donna cannot see their fate.
Al: But I can help them! I feel the Force!
J-J: But you cannot control it. This is a dangerous time for you, when you will be tempted by the Dark Side of the Force.

roachcane77

From Manny's blog: (I like AG's statement, and I also like the latest word on Henderson.)

Golden was asked about his own future at the program considering the potential sanctions at UM and the coach opening at his alma mater Penn State.

"I don't have any decisions to make," he said. "I am coaching the Miami program and moving forward. My family and I enjoy living here and we have a great group of kids on the team and I am excited about the direction we are going."

Eichorst assured the media he will do his best to make sure Golden remains the coach of UM for a long time. "I truly believe in my heart that I have one of the best football coaches in America and I plan on working side-by-side with him for a very long time," Eichorst said.

> Golden seemed encouraged by the MRI results of offensive lineman Seantrel Henderson on Sunday and has upgraded him to doubtful for Friday's game. "It doesn't look like it will be a surgery deal, which is great for the young man," Golden said.

SlingBlade

always amazes me how people come on after an announcement is made or after something happens that everyone knows is gonna happen and says "i called that one"...that kind of stuff annoys me...

we all knew it was gonna happen...dont try to take credit for "calling that one"...

just like this guy at work on monday says pacquiao and dos santos were his picks and no one believed him...and no one ever even knew he was interested in fighting...

SlingBlade

imma go out on a limb and say that jimmy johnson doesnt win his 6th ship in a row...

SlingBlade

imma say that frank gore gets a td on san frans next possession...

j.w.

Good article, soup. I don't like the bowl ban, or how this decision was made at all. If Golden really wasn't included in the decision, it really looks bad. The timing is awful as well- if we really want to show the NCAA we are serious aobut compliance, why not do it before the Maryland game? Why waste bowl officials time scouting us if we're not going? Very disappointed with Eichhorst.

SlingBlade

you dont announce it before the maryland game because you are not bowl eligible...those are things you announce after you are eligible to do it...

canesteeler

I agree with the decision to stay at home. History states if they went to a bowl half the team would not show up to play anyway! That shat yesterday was horrible.

roachcane77

I agree, AG should have been "in" on the decision making process, NOT "informed" of the decision after the fact.

2002nemo

Hey SOUP, let me repeat a question I posed earlier in the season:

Is this year's team better than last year's team?

UMike

Did anyone keep the streak alive today?

Sarasota 'cane

Gore should have a couple of looks as SF should run the ball to kill the clock.

Go 'canes!

SlingBlade

not yet mike

Texascane

I will still take a 6-3 win over a 38-34 loss...to anyone...

Really, go back and look at the posts after VaTech...compared to the ones above, you would think we won VT and lost this one...everyone needs to make up their mind...do we want to win or look good losing?

SlingBlade

i agree texascane...but a 6-3 win over a .500 team looks alot worse than a 4pt loss to a top 5 team on the road...but a win is a win

orange 'n green in the vein

Posted by: 2002nemo | November 20, 2011 at 06:39 PM

Team, better, but they have 13 seniors on the roster so that figures. Coaching, way worse in some areas and a little better in others.

Add that all up and it equals to being no better at all or slightly worse if BC returns the receipt for the '06 upset Friday.

mi@mic@ne

Im glad Al and the administration are putting the punishment on these players. They have under performed for Golden and that performance against the Bulls was like throwing Al under the bus. I know Al doesnt think all the players deserve the punishment but there are some specific players who know they have not put in the time enough to meet the standards that Al wanted. Im glad we got a new class coming in because i hope some of the joiners who return are benched for these freshman. It pisses me off that we lost games we should never have lost.

mi@mic@ne

juniors

Hassan

Soup tell me you got to talk to the coacahes or someone WHY do our OL not wear knee braces?

Sarasota 'cane

Hey SOUP, let me repeat a question I posed earlier in the season:

Is this year's team better than last year's team?

Posted by: 2002nemo | November 20, 2011 at 06:39 PM

Yes they are. It's not even close. They may not be more athletic, but they are a better coached squad. As frustrating as they have been over the years they could have won all 5 games that they lost this year. That's the only stat a first year coach should be measured on. Did they plug the glaring problems from last year?? No question. Jacory was 10 times better this season.

Go 'canes!

orange 'n green in the vein

Texas, what's missing so far is accounting for this simple, but crucial fact:

USF has such an inferiority complex in these state games that they are all in and will give better effort in them than trying to win the Big East.

UM doesn't and shouldn't consider USF a rival at all.

Plus, Fisch has been planned for now and needs to regain the initiative of surprise he had earlier in the year going forward into 2012. Another year in the system will only help get that back on UM's side.

j.w.


you dont announce it before the maryland game because you are not bowl eligible...those are things you announce after you are eligible to do it...

Posted by: SlingBlade
Sling- my point is don't wait until you know you're turning down a weak bowl bid if you want people to believe you're contrite. Kind of like telling your kid that you don't get credit for confessing to taking candy when you return it only because it doesn't taste good.

Ohio_Cane

Looks like The Streak is going to end.

4-Real

C-Mac ballin

orange 'n green in the vein

j.w., that has no bearing on this. Butch took his bowl ban when he did because he was convinced he had enough next year to make a Bowl Alliance run the next season, which ended up being like the Car Care Bowl instead. Seriously, the main concern of the NCAA is the cooperation into the investigation, which bowl you remove yourself from is a tertiary at best concern for them I'd imagine.

SlingBlade

Kind of like telling your kid that you don't get credit for confessing to taking candy when you return it only because it doesn't taste good.

its nothing like that...that would be like playing the game against boise state and getting blown out and saying scratch that game from the record books...

you can not impose a penalty on your team until you are eligible to enforce that penalty...

Sarasota 'cane

j.w. you can't turn it down until you qualify! Be real dude! This team would never have made it to "bowl eligible" if you had made the decision in August.
Besides that I knew they would self impose, how could the team not?

Go 'canes!

Texascane

OGV, I agree...I hated the game but these are the games that we used to lose...always. Let the other team stick around, make some stupid mistakes late in the game and lose...

We went 64 yards, made three third down and shorts (running) and kicked the field goal with no time left...storybook.

No stupid timeouts, no holding calls, no 12 men on the field. It's always good to win one on the last play...

SlingBlade

looks like san fran shut gore down for the rest of the game...now our only hopes are kenny phillips and antrel rolle...a pick six tonight would be nice

Sarasota 'cane

I love it, not only are we not bowl eligible, but we have also already lost a bowl game to Boise! In November!!

Go 'canes!

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