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December 13, 2011




1. How high is Smith our DT ceiling? I think a RS year would have helped him get in shape and get stronger but oh well, I think he can be an ALL ACC guy if he really develops in the weight room and spring practice.

2. Do we take a 4th Lineman? I honestly think you can nto have too many of these guys, with a class of 32+ 3 lineman is a small class, if we do Do you guys think Sunny Osdogwu is a good target, he is 6'9 and 270 but very raw with just 1 year of football under his belt.

3. Do the future canes create a culture that they do not want to jump early unless they are a sure sire top pick, i think this is key, you get a 5 start player an he is now a 3 year starter what how many stars would he be worth? 7-8? You can not replace a 8 star RB, Miller and a 6 star WR easily. Our Juniors leaving early hurts us and we need to create an environment where that happens rarely and is not the norm. Of course it helps if you do not take an entire H.S MNW in one class where they are so close they will be with he same agent same everything.

4. Out of our 28 or so commits, which commits size/ speed is over hyped the most. I am tired of getting guys that are supposed to be 6'f Copper and end up 5'9.5 and 190 lol. I hope our staff is measuring these guys on official visits, because We all thought Hank was 6'3 til the combine.

The Dude

8-4 could be a good year depending on the losses, could set us up for an ACC run the following year. I just hope the penalties aren't to harsh.


I agree that best case is 8-4 next year...but my prediction is 6-6. The defense I think will be either the same or worse next year and offense I can't see being better. Very Very young and inexperienced all over.

New QB, inexperienced WRs, inexperienced DBs and LBs. Depth along the DLine is going to be thin with lots of young guns


I'd offer 7-5 is realistic. New QB, lots of new faces on the D side, not alot of experience, and not much depth.

Overall play may be better, but key mistakes against better teams will be costly.

A better record depends on getting more takeaways by the D, and special teams coming up with scores.

The Dude

That's a good point Hassan. You haven't done sh*t until the combine. You don't run a 4.3 you're not 6'5" and you are too fat until you show up and prove it at the combine, I remember when the announcers during and Ohio st game said Prior runs a 4.2... On who's clock? Not the nfls.


Sorry I'm late...

Papa Cane, again, thanks for all the info U provide on twitter that we can share with the Canespace folks and for coming here to answer questions.

Do U see any BIG surprise commits the fans will be raving about once the news hits?

The Dude

Well it is really hard to judge how good the team is right now and how good the coaching staff is. The turned around Jacory that is for sure, but Morris does have the game experiences. I think they will put Morris in good positions. I think him having a year close to Jacorys is a reasonable expectation. Wr is tough to gauge. Benjamin had 4 years experience. Can't replace that with these guys. But Streeter was a one year wonder. Hearns should be solid. Who will step into the deep threat and who will be the red zone threat?


Sorry about the delay and lack of participants tonight folks, that is on me.

Here is a link to the last chat we had about two weeks ago with everybody involved:


I will be back in 15 minutes...I am going to try to get Gary Ferman or Lamar Thomas to join us?


OOC schedule....Kstate,ND,BCookman, and USF

* ACC home games: Florida State, NC State, North Carolina, Virginia Tech
* ACC road games: Boston College, Duke, Georgia Tech, Virginia

The Dude

The good news is that all the tough ACC games are at home that may be the bad news too because Miami home attendence is pathetic. I just hope the other teams don't turn them into home games. I think 8 wins is expected. 9 would be over achieving and 7 is under achieving.


AL Golden LIVE:



Btw is that ND set for Oct 6th...looking to go to that game!


Jim Larranaga LIVE:



Btw is that ND set for Oct 6th...looking to go to that game!

Posted by: pbcfrcane13 | December 13, 2011 at 09:20 PM

Make hotel reservations NOW!


After standout campaigns in the 2011 season, Miami's Denzel Perryman and Anthony Chickillo have been named to the Yahoo! Sports Freshman All-America Team. Perryman earned first-team honors, while Chickillo was named to the second team.

Perryman, who finished the season ranked first among Atlantic Coast Conference freshmen with 69 tackles, saw action in all 12 games. He finished his freshman season ranked second on the team in tackles (69) and tied for third on the team in tackles for loss (6.5).

In his first career start against then-No. 20 Georgia Tech, Perryman recorded seven tackles, three tackles for loss and his first career sack. He would go on to start the final four games of the season for the Hurricanes, recording a career-high 14 tackles in the team's season finale against Boston College.

Last week, the Coral Gables High product was named to the CBSSports.com 2011 Freshman All-America Team.

Chickillo played in all 12 of Miami's game this season, including starts in the final nine contests of the year. His five sacks were tied for the team lead, helping him to a third-place finish in ACC Defensive Rookie of the Year Award voting.

The Tampa, Fla. native finished the season with 38 total tackles, with his season-best effort coming at then-No. 21 Virginia Tech, where he had eight takedowns.


HurricaneSports.com aired the groundbreaking of the Theodore G. Schwartz and Todd G. Schwartz Center for Athletic Excellence today.

Located on the North side of the Hecht Athletic Center, the new Center for Athletic Excellence will be an iconic two level, 30,000 SqFt multipurpose athletics facility that will serve as the focal point of our five-time National Champion Football program while serving to enhance the complete experience of all of our 400-plus student-athletes.

The facility will include three main components that are aligned with our mission to be the premiere program in Intercollegiate Athletics:

Enhanced Football Facilities
Student-Athlete Academics
Student-Athlete Wellness

Enhanced Football Facilities - Ground Level

A strong football program is a highly visible hallmark of a great university. A winning record attracts the very best recruits and endears supporters to the school. Inspiration for excellence on the gridiron often begins in the locker room, which serves as a place of excitement, energy, and anticipation.

At the University of Miami, the locker room is a place where countless coaching legends and NFL greats have left their mark in collegiate football history. The Center for Athletic Excellence will feature one of the finest locker rooms in college athletics, along with a 3,500-square foot players' lounge. The locker room will provide increased dressing and changing space, as well as a sitting and storage area. The lounge will offer a comfortable space for players to relax and gather before and after practice while strengthening "The U" family bond. In addition, the latest in audio-visual technology will allow coaches and student-athletes to be more efficient in day-to-day training preparations.

Also located on the first floor of the Center for Athletic Excellence will be the Gallery of Champions, a sports museum dedicated to Hurricane Football. It will house all of the University of Miami's national championship trophies, Ring of Honor and championship rings, as well as showcase the many accomplishments of our program and its players. This visually spectacular area will be a defining feature of the new Center for Athletic Excellence, attracting a wide range of Hurricanes fans from our area and elsewhere.

Football Facility Highlights - Ground Level

6,664 SqFt Locker Room with 116 individual player lockers

State-of-the-art audio & visual technology
Layout designed to maximize player & coach interaction and communication

3,945 SqFt Football Players Lounge

3,620 SqFt Gallery of Champions displaying national championship trophies, rings, and interactive displays.


Ok so I am cool to make those now no need to worry about that moving you dont think right.


GREENSBORO, N.C. - University of Miami senior guard Riquna Williams earned Atlantic Coast Conference Women's Basketball Player of the Week honors for the week ending Dec. 11, as announced by the conference office on Monday.

Williams, a Preseason All-ACC First-Team selection, scored a career-high 36 points in a 92-81 double overtime victory over No. 11 Rutgers at the BankUnited Center on Dec. 5. In the team’s next game against Ole Miss on Dec. 10, Riquna led all scorers with 17 points in a blowout 76-48 victory over the Lady Rebels.

The Pahokee, Fla. native is now averaging 17.6 points per contest in 2011, second-highest on the team and third-best in the conference. With her selection, Williams became the active conference leader as the only seven-time ACC Player of the Week honoree.


As far as next year goes, defensively, we need players to step up at the MLB (Perryman?),FS (Telemaque?), and SS (Ray-Ray?) spots. And oh, Coach D, Williams, and Jethro need to get their ish together.

Offensively...hell...I don't know. I watched some YT highlights of the Preston kid, and I'll tell you what, that kid looks like He has some promise, He looks accurate as hell with a quick release. At WR, we'll either be young,inexperienced, or underachieving, unless Fisch can find another way to utilize Cleveland and Walford. We should have adequate depth at RB, and Cory White coming back healthy should be a boost to the O-Line. I say anywhere from 6-6 to 8-4 should be our record...


pbc...the game date can NOT move. The date is set at Soldier Field!

Susan Miller Degnan

Hi everyone! I really came to say a quick hello, but wanted to make sure you saw my story that was just posted on The Miami Herald website. Safety Ray-Ray Armstrong is returningto UM for his senior season, per his father, Albert Armstrong. I had a nice interview with his dad, and have a blog on it and story that is pretty much the same stuff.


Thanks for stopping by Susan.

Post a link to your story here?


I'm PUMPED Ray Ray is coming back! Smart decision to stay

Susan Miller Degnan

Maybe DE Olivier Vernon will also decide to stick around UM. But I'm not so sure about him. I had this weird feeling that he was going to jump ship. Hopefully he won't. He's a real talent and the UM defense would be a lot better for him staying. I also think his draft stock will rise a bunch if he stays.


Susan and rumors your hearing why Forston jumped ship? Didn't seem like a smart move on his part.


I posted 4 questions, none get answered, awesome Q&A

Susan Miller Degnan

Link to my Ray-Ray story:



Also people are worrying thinking a lot of people leaving early or with transferes coming up that maybe Al Golden is the problem what do you think?

To me it seems like kids who were used to make type of relaxed atmosphere and are thinking this is not what i signed up for the tough work outs and you job always being up for grabs.

Susan Miller Degnan

Oops! I screwed up the link. just copy and paste it. As far as Marcus Forston,I think he was sick of being hurt and maybe felt like he needed to get away and start anew. He really could have used a strong senior season. Disappointed in that decision but I wish him the best.


I posted 4 questions, none get answered, awesome Q&A

Posted by: Hassan | December 13, 2011 at 09:42 PM

U should know that only the 1% of the ???get answered. Guess U didn't make the cut and U are part of the 99%? LOL


Susan's blog:



Have you heard of any names of kids looking to transfer out after the semester?


Duke Johnson article from the MH:



That being said, UM's depth chart will look awfully young next year. That's an enticing sell for freshman who want to play right away, but not necessarily a good look for an improvement from 6-6.

Here is the projected depth chart at the moment, assuming Miller leaves (rated second best RB by NFLDraftScout.com) and everyone else returns:

QB: Stephen Morris, Jr. | Ryan Williams, Jr.
RB: Mike James, Sr. | Eduardo Clements, Jr. | Darion Hall, R-So.
FB: Maurice Hagens, Jr. | John Calhoun, Sr.
WR: Allen Hurns, Jr. | Rashawn Scott, So.
WR: Phillip Dorsett, So. | Kendall Thompkins, Sr.
TE: Clive Walford, R-So. | Dyron Dye, R-Jr. | Asante Cleveland, Jr.
LT: Seantrel Henderson, Jr. | Jermaine Johnson, R-Jr.
LG: Brandon Washington, Sr. | Jeremy Lewis, Sr.
C: Shane McDermott, R-So. | Jared Wheeler, R-Jr.
RG: Brandon Linder, Jr. | Malcolm Bunche, R-So.
RT: Jonathan Feliciano, R-So. | Jermaine Barton, R-So.

DE: Anthony Chickillo, So. | Shayon Green, R-Jr.
DT: Adewale Ojomo, Sr. | Jalen Grimble, So.
DT: Curtis Porter, Jr. | Darius Smith, Sr.
DE: Olivier Vernon, Sr. | Olsen Pierre, So.
WLB: Denzel Perryman, So. | C.J. Holton, Sr.
MLB: Kelvin Cain, Jr. | Gionni Paul, So.
SLB: James Gaines, Jr. | Eddie Johnson, So.
CB: Brandon McGee, Sr. | Dallas Crawford, So.
CB: Thomas Finnie, So. | Kacy Rodgers, Jr.
SS: Ray-Ray Armstrong, Sr. | Andrew Swasey, Sr.
FS: Vaughn Telemaque, Sr. | A.J. Highsmith, R-Jr.

K: Jake Wiecalw, Sr. | Matt Goudis, So.
P: Dalton Botts, Jr.
KR: Phillip Dorsett, So. | Davon Johnson, Sr.
PR: Phillip Dorsett, So. | Kendall Thompkins, Sr

Read more: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2011/12/what-does-canes-2012-depth-chart-look-like-heres-my-best-guess.html#ixzz1gTR9LG84

Susan Miller Degnan

Hey Hassan! Don't give up. No. 3 question: 3. Do the future canes create a culture that they do not want to jump early unless they are a sure sire top pick, I think this is key, you get a 5 star player and he is now a 3 year starter what how many stars would he be worth? 7-8?

You can not replace an 8 star RB, Miller and a 6 star WR easily. Our Juniors leaving early hurts us and we need to create an environment where that happens rarely and is not the norm. Of course it helps if you do not take an entire H.S MNW in one class where they are so close they will be with he same agent same everything.

I don't know if a culture can create that kind of mindset, but it's a cool thought. I think what creates that more than anything is the program getting so strong and the team winning so much that the players want to stay as long as they can. Otherwise, these days you almost have to assume that guys are going to jump ship early.

It's sad, I think, not to have that feeling of the team being so close knit and so special as a unit that guys don't want to leave. But I certainly can't blame guys for making their decisions. After all, it's within the rules, and so many of these guys' families don't have much and could use the money.

I just think that some of them could make a lot more if they'd stay.


Man WR doesn't look to good!

Susan Miller Degnan

I am so sorry I showed up late, then left early. I'll try to do better next time. Everyone have a safe night and get some sleep!! Thanks 86Cane. :)


Take care Susan AND thanks for your time.






Whoo hoo got one 86. 1%er here i come.

We are not going to be very good next year, let's face it. we will not go 0-12 but we will fight for bowl eligibility late in the season. However getting stronger and our depth at all positions and tons of SFLA talent on our roster we can start to look pretty mean in 2013. A lot of guys can be beast that are only 3 stars in HS so i am not daunted I just know you can not win many games in CFB with a QB who can not read defenses and 33 freshman and about 10-12 of them on your 2 deep.


Missed it again- how's the saying go- when your kids act their worst, they need you the most? Learning that firsthand with an otherwise sweet little 5-year old.


Sorry for my late arrival. I am here


Chris...look up the blog for the LIVE chat questions. Just pick and choose, we had a SLOW night! LOL


Chris...Lots of UM underclassmen running for the NFLU. Let us examine:

Forston? 3rd round?

Streeter? 3rd round?

Miller? 2nd round?

Ray Ray is coming back and I expect Vernon and BWash to do the same.


Hey sorry I'm late!


Sorry for my late arrival. I am here

Posted by: ChrisWittyngham | December 13, 2011 at 10:44 PM

Listen I have two words that will make U cringe: Miami Dolphins.

I know U hate the Dolphins ownership for keeping Sparano around as long as they did just to lose the "Suck For Luck" sweepstakes.

Who do U want as coach for the Fins?


Seeing a lot of over reaction by fans and the media about some underclassmen leaving. Fact is Miller should surprise nobody. Streeter is disappointing but Rosenhaus is probably telling him there isnt much difference between late second and third round money. Forston has been a disappointment all around and the only way he gets drafted is if his knees are 100% cleared at the combine. Any sniff of a physical issue and he'll be lucky to go 7th round IMO.


Strauzer...late is NOT a good excuse.

Give us the goods! What do U know?


Yeah Chris Answer mine


Hassan, I did, not sure if it got posted.


1. Smith could have definitely used more time to grow and get into shape to play full games.

2. It seems clear to me that they need as many linemen as possible

3. The only culture that can be created is a winning one so teams know they can comeback to something that could help their draft stock. The guys leaving know that even if they have success they could not play in a bowl.

4. Golden has talked about height and weight requirements. However, Sean Spence was undersized, so it's not a end all be all

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