National Signing Day (NSD) 2012 is now in the books as high school recruits all across the Country have signed, sealed and delivered their National Letters of Intent to their respective schools.
At the University of Miami NSD was celebrated in style as Hurricane coaches, administrators and fans all gathered to rejoice in the day's events at the BankUnited Center on campus.
Over 1,500 fans, including the infamous CaneFreak and Canespace blogger 3G, were on hand to hear about the "mother lode" of talent that the UM coaches had managed to gather in Coral Gables during the 2012 recruiting cycle.
With 33 players added to the roster this year the Hurricanes coaching staff has recruited 50 players to UM over the last two years. That alone is a major accomplishment in and of itself.
Head Coach Al Golden held an official press conference earlier in the day so his opening address to the warm and welcoming crowd was brief. He first gave credit and thanks to the UM administration, coaches and boosters for their support during the recruiting process before turning the event over to his assistant coaches.
Each coordinator and position coach took turns introducing the 2012 recruits via video tape highlights. The coaches gave a brief summary of each player's abilities during the video segments that showed each player's strengths.
Assistant coaches Barrow, Kehoe, Taylor and Richardson were particularly excited and outspoken about the players they landed in the 2012 class.
But it was my post-event casual discussion with Defensive Coordinator Mark D'Onofrio that proved to be the highlight of the event. Several fans had gathered around Coach D to chat about the Hurricanes defensive challenges in 2011 and to try to get a feel for what Miami would do on defense in 2012.
D'Onofrio talked candidly about the talent and toughness deficiencies on defense in 2011. He said: "Not going to a bowl this year was exactly what this team needed. We needed to get stronger, bigger, faster and mentally tougher. All of the players have been in the strength and conditioning program since the first week of December."
Coach D turned the tables and then began asking us questions: "Have you seen Olsen Pierre lately? He added about 25 pounds of muscle and looks great at around 265. Jalen Grimble is another player who has taken off in the weight room. He's up to about 290 and looks solid; he basically changed his body shape. Have you seen Gionni Paul ? That kid is huge; there is a guy who looks like a football player."
Then when the talk turned to scheme and the soft DB coverage at Miami he said: "It all comes down to points allowed. We try to avoid turning the game into one-on-one match-ups, not give up the big play or easy score. We make the other team earn their points and give up fewer scores that way."
Then Coach D turned questioner again: "Did you see Alabama play in the National Championship game?" We all nodded yes. "OK, then tell me: What defense did they run?"
Then he answered his own question: "They were in a basic cover two almost the entire game. Why? Because they had the talent up front to win the battle. Their front seven took care business at the line of scrimmage so they didn't have to run any fancy schemes, or stunts or blitzes. Those guys are big and strong. We are not there yet. But we will get there, I promise you that."
That is when Cutler Ridge Laz and I got excited and decided to throw up the U in celebration!
Then D'Onofrio stated: "That is why this off season and this recruiting class was so important. Getting bigger and stronger was our priority. We were not a physical team last year. And we are recruiting a different type of player. I am not trying to be critical of anyone, I'm just saying we have a different philosophy. We want big, strong guys that are physical at the point of attack."
Everything was going along just fine until I mentioned Canespace blogger Orange and Green in the Vein's (OGV) constant criticism of his defensive scheme and even his coaching skills. The UM DC, who apparently is an avid reader of Canespace, went into a serious rant about what he claimed was an unfair and unbalanced critique of his defensive strategy and his players.
In fact, he simply would not stop defending his defense and was still ranting when we took this picture.
At the end of our conversation I shook his hand, wished him well in 2012 and tried to walk away and go to the UM vs MD basketball game.
But Coach D would have none of that. He gripped my hand tightly, pulled me close, looked me in the eye and said in a low voice: "Tell OGV I would like to have a word with him. In private. And soon."
OK, he didn't really say that last quote, but to be honest, I felt as though maybe he should have.
I think with Duke, Deon and Tracy staying home, and saying it so publicly, it will encourage other local kids to stay home. Especially if Golden gets them on a visit to Coral Gables which Howard said "was like another world", they can be away from home, but at home at the same time.
Posted by: UMike | February 03, 2012 at 10:54 AM
great work SOUP
Posted by: UMike | February 03, 2012 at 10:55 AM
3rd
Posted by: Hassan | February 03, 2012 at 11:01 AM
2013 Michael Deeb American Heritage HS. This kid is a beast, He is white and NO I will not compare him to Dan Freakin Morgan. Ok now that that is done the kid is 6'3 and 238 lbs. I know the herald has him at 6'2 220 but I spoke to him myself yesterday (networking already) and this kid will be the #1 rated MLB in Fl. We can not let this kid get out of Miami.
Posted by: Hassan | February 03, 2012 at 11:03 AM
UMike...from my experience it is at events like this where you always get the BEST information. That is why I drove 6 hours round trip just to go there from Central FL.
Posted by: SOUP | February 03, 2012 at 11:04 AM
Soup as always man great article, your a beast bro.............
Hassan you hit it on the nail bro, IF D'No wants big and strong players like Bama then he better sign that boy up now. I seen his film kid is a beast.
Posted by: UpNorthCane27 | February 03, 2012 at 11:19 AM
Memorize these names on these two list
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/hssports/
Space name your 2 "Must get" guys from this list for 2013
For me
1. Joey Bosa (Str8 Beast,Better then Jelani IMO)
2. Michael Deeb (Lil Urlacher)
1. Joey Bosa, DE, 6-5, 260, St. Thomas Aquinas: Easily one of the nation’s top prospects, combining size, strength and knowledge of the game. Father, John, was a standout at Boston College and a first round Miami Dolphins selection.
2. Stacey Coley, WR, 6-1, 175, Northeast: One of the most talented prospects in the state of Florida, who has speed, outstanding route-running abilities and leaping ability. A big play receiver. Also had a stellar youth football career.
3. Jordan Cunningham, WR, 6-3, 175, University School: From an all-around aspect, this may be Florida’s top player. Super three year starter on the football field who has dominated some quality defensive backs. Is also one of the top students in the classroom. This is a tremendous talent.
4. Alex Collins, RB, 5-11, 195, South Plantation: Yet another football talent who started on the competitive youth football field across South Florida and translated top the high school level, where this University of Miami commitment led Broward County in rushing. Will be nationally-rated.
5. Monty Nelson, DT, 6-3, 285, Plantation: While most have never watched him play, they are missing a player who has all the tools to play on Sundays. Every college coach we spoke with admits that this could be the next Warren Sapp. Athletic, quick and loves to play the game.
6. Alex Montgomery, WR, 6-2, 200, Cypress Bay: Talk about one of the players who continues to turn heads, here is a big time prospect who offers size, speed, athletic ability and plenty of experience, making huge catches. Colleges and fellow high school coaches are bowled over by his future.
7. Alvonte Bell, DE, 6-5, 220, Everglades: The most important thing when it comes to recruiting is to watch every team play, and most who evaluate, simply miss out on the programs who are not in the playoff mix. This is an athlete who should be on every list in the nation. But unfortunately, people are missing out!
8. Maquedius Bain, DT, 6-4, 265, University School: What more can be said about a player who spent most of his time on the basketball court before last spring, and by watching his first season on the football field, this FSU commit will be something special.
9. Lance Virgil, LB, 6-2, 210, St. Thomas Aquinas: Elevated himself into a BCS prospect with an impressive junior season that saw this gifted athlete lead the Raiders in tackles. Tremendous size and athletic ability. Huge early sleeper in this class!
10. Jermaine Grace, LB, 6-2, 205, Miramar: This football prospect has been the star attraction for two years now. There is no hiding the fact that this is a play maker, who has size, quickness and the ability to lead by example. Could emerge into one of Florida’s top linebacking prospects.
11. Sandley Jean Felix, OL, 6-5, 300, Boyd Anderson: Size, strength, quickness and the ability to pass and run block with the best. This is a football player who continues to get rave reviews from college coaches and many of the teams the Cobras played against.
12. Fred Coppet, RB, 5-9, 180, St. Thomas Aquinas: After a brilliant sophomore year, playing backup to some quality football players, this past season was the perfect time for this speedy, athletic football player to showcase his running and blocking skills, which everyone fell in love with.
13. Michael Deeb, LB, 6-2, 238, American Heritage: As a sophomore, this was a player every coach talked about, leading Archbishop McCarthy in tackles. This past year, he made that huge move as colleges began to take notice of a very special football prospect who dominate – against top competition.
14. Sojourn Shelton, DB, 5-9, 175, Plantation: This early FSU commitment showed how impressive he was during his junior year. A very physical corner who not only makes life tough on receivers, but has shown that he will be a major force as a run stopper as well.
15. Skai Moore, OLB, 6-3, 200, University School: Leave it to South Florida to continue coming up with prospects that get very little publicity. On a talented team last year, there was little doubt that this was the player everyone talked about. Has the size and athletic ability to play four different positions. Keep your eye on him.
16. Walter Tucker, LB/RB, 5-11, 200, American Heritage: This one-time St. Thomas standout was the ultimate team player as a junior with the Patriots, and while his numbers weren’t what many expected, he remains one of the most athletic and quickest prospects in the state.
17. Myles Graham, RB, 6-0, 190, Chaminade-Madonna: If it weren’t for a late season injury, this one-time youth all-star would have put up much better numbers. But if you watch him play – when he is healthy – this is a BCS back who continues to get better. Big time pass catcher out of the backfield as well.’
18. Justin Porter, S, 5-9, 180, Chaminade-Madonna: One of two BCS prospects the Lions have in the secondary, this is a real talent who patrols the secondary, knocking down passes as well as making life tough on runners. Very physical football player.
19. Griffin Goins, OLB/FB, 6-2, 225, Hollywood Hills: How recruiters and services continue to miss out on this quality prospect – once again – this past season – is mind boggling. He has speed, size, runs the ball out of the backfield as well as playing the linebacker position as well as any. Has been around the sport all of his life.
20. Matthew Dayes, RB, 5-9, 200, Cypress Bay: The only thing that separated this impressive talent from being in the upper tier of players in this class – nationally – was an injury that slowed him much of the year. This is a prospect who had dominated at every level. There is no reason to believe he won’t continue making an impact.
21. Nick Internicola, DE, 6-3, 220, University: From the start of his career at West Broward, this is another of those hidden gems that all he does is make plays and continues to be the difference. Used as a defensive end/outside linebacker by the Suns, he is also a very impressive pass catcher as a tight end. Will be a major force for a very good team.
22. Jason Rae, OL, 6-1, 295, Cypress Bay: When it comes to this position, there may not be a more physical, better coached and all-around talented prospect than this. Over the past two years, he has more than proven that he can make life tough on the opposition. His older brother went on to star at UCF. He has that same potential!
23. Adrian Baker, DB, 6-1, 175, Chaminade-Madonna: Yet another of those well coached, skilled secondary performers who will be a big time player. His 4.4 speed (40) and tremendous range give him a major advantage. Will continue to get bigger and stronger in the off season.
24. Michael Miranda, OL, 6-3, 270, Miramar: With so many seniors on the No. 1 rated unit in the state this past season, here is a prospect who certainly made a huge impact. Not only a superb run-blocker, but also a player helped the Patriots’ run toward an 8A state title with his pass blocking. Solid and well coached player.
25. Jaranta Lewis, QB, 6-1, 180, Cypress Bay: Ever since his youth football days, this is what they call a chain mover. Add in the fact that he has one of the top lines around, a superb running game, and plenty of people to throw the ball to, and it all adds up to this being one of the more dangerous signal callers in 2012!
Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/hssports/#storylink=cpy
1. Matthew Thomas, OLB, 6-4, 210, Miami Booker T. Washington: No brainer, here. This gifted prospect may be one of the best in the country. He can play defensive end, linebacker and strong safety and never skips a talent beat. Overwhelms any offensive lineman or tight end he goes against. Will only get better, and that is scary!
2. Jamal Carter, S, 6-1, 190, Southridge: While injuries have cut into this major splash at the high school level, this was a prospect who was going to be a star long before he ever got to high school. This is the year the nation understands why they have been waiting for this gifted football prospect to mature and stay healthy. That time has arrived.
3. Daryl Chestnut, RB, 5-10, 180, Christopher Columbus: Here is the “Cadillac” of running backs in this state. A football player who can take it the distance against anyone – and he will never be caught. Combines blazing speed with a knack of hitting the holes. Will be used much more this year.
4. Denver Kirkland, OL, 6-4, 300, Booker T. Washington: This three-year starter has everything you look for in a line prospect who will compete at the BCS level – and beyond. Great footwork, athleticism and the ability to open holes and keep them that way. Big, big time player.
5. Stacy Thomas, DE, 6-2, 225, Gulliver Prep: How does a football prospect with so much size, athletic ability and game-changing talent get lost in any shuffle? Ask any player or coach who went against him last season, and all are upset that he has one more year left. Will be heavily recruited for his ability to blow up plays – often.
6. George Williams, LB, 6-1, 220, Hialeah: Easily one of the most physical and gifted prospects in South Florida, this three-year starter can cover sideline-to-sideline and continues to drop in pass coverage with the best. Will be an every down player at the next level, which is great news for college coaches. Play maker!
7. Gerald Wright, OL, 6-4, 270, Northwestern: It can already be said that if everyone returns for the Bulls, they will have the No. 1 offensive line in the state, and certainly at the center of that group is this amazing prospect who has tremendous feet and drive blocks with the best. BCS for sure. After that, it’s up to how hard he works.
8. Lorenzo Woodley, RB, 6-0, 200, Christopher Columbus: From his freshman days at rival Belen Jesuit to where he has come know, this is one of those big backs who has frame to carry 225 pounds and beat people up. Also amazing quickness, but his major positive is his durability, which has everyone watching - especially FSU, which he committed to.
9. Xavier Hines, DB, 6-0, 190, Belen Jesuit: When all is said and done, this could be one of the state’s premier secondary performers. He is not just lightning quick, but has football instincts that traces back several years. This is the kind of player who changes outcomes of games, and the Wolverines are overjoyed.
10. Charles Williams, QB, 6-2, 180, Champagnat Catholic: Another athlete that college coaches and opposing high school coaches have been raving about. Is one of those big time athletes who has speed, football smarts and can move the chains with his arm or legs. A true difference maker.
11. Leroy Clark, DB, 5-11, 180, Miami Archbishop Carroll: In any other part of the state, when a prospect had the year that this quality athlete did, which included 13 interceptions and several huge plays, there would be no questioning his ability. Welcome to South Florida, where there are several big time prospects. But fair warning, this is a big, big time football talent – at any level!
12. Jesus Wilson, WR, 5-10, 165, Christopher Columbus: Another exceptional talent, who has speed, athletic ability and the talent to break games open with catches or on special teams. This one-time youth football standout has brought his game to the next level – in a huge way.
13. Treyvon Williams, OLB, 6-1, 220, Norland: With all the talent the Vikings have had over the past few years, it’s easy to see why a prospect like this could be overlooked. But go back and watch the success this team had and you will see this quality football talent making plays, all over the field.
14. Terrance Alls, WR, 6-0, 175, Dade Christian: When college coaches came to the school last year to watch D1 prospects Ryan Janvion (Wake Forest) and Bilal Marshall (Purdue), they were also treated to one of the best players this program has ever had. Speed, athletic ability and enough talent to dictate play on offense, defense and on special teams. Tremendously talented.
15. Paul James, DE, 6-3, 235, Dr. Krop: Just think, this could have been yet another piece to Norland’s championship puzzle, but he opted to head to nearby Dr. Krop as a sophomore. Despite numerous injures, this is a player that every college coach simply loves. Has unlimited potential.
16. Anthony Walker, OLB/S, 6-1, 200, Monsignor Pace: How many prospect, like this, have to impress enough high school and college coaches to be considered one of the best in the state? Yet, here is a prospect that doesn’t get the publicity he deserves. He may be a safety now, but his body screams linebacker. No matter where this quick, athletic player lines up, he will bring plenty of positive along with him.
17. Artie Burns, DB, 6-1, 175, Northwestern: Here is a two-year varsity performer who is perhaps known more for what he’s been able to accomplish as a nationally-rated runner on the track, but do not sell his abilities short. This is a very aggressive and talented athlete who is picking things up all the time.
18. Troy McCullom, DB, 6-0, 180, North Miami: In a program that has struggled through the years, here is the first BCS level players the Pioneers have been able to produce in a while. He is a very quick, aggressive and athletic player who can play corner or safety.
19. Bo Ellis, RB, 5-9, 185, Gulliver Prep: In a year the Raiders lost Chestnut to Columbus, here was a player who stepped, showed that he can play this game at a high level and made life easy on this program. Hits the hole quick and get those tough yards as well as being able to hit the home run with a long play.
20. Devondre Powell, DB, 5-10, 170, Jackson: While most of the offensive players were getting the attention, and for good reason, the secondary the Generals had was not too bad, either. This is one of the most aggressive and athletic prospects in the secondary. His exposure in the off season will only elevate his many talents.
21. Wendell Dunn, LB/S, 6-0, 190, Palmetto: Ever since he came to high school, this was a player that everyone has waited to mature and live up to his potential. A quick, safety with range and the ability cover, he will have a new coaching staff for that final season, and that may add up to a lot of positives.
22. Michael Johnson, DB, 5-9, 175, Booker T. Washington: Talk to high school coaches who played against him, and all will tell you how they avoid coming into his area. Speak with college coaches who are recruiting him, and they smile. This is the next great Tornado player in the secondary.
23. Jerrol Mobley, OL, 6-4, 315, Hialeah: One of the most physical and athletic big men in a class that will produce a number of top-flight prospects. Greet feet, tremendous strength and the skill level to play a number of positions up front. One of the big time recruits to keep an eye on.
24. Troy Cook, QB, 6-2, 200, Palmetto: While his stats may not bear it out, this is the most technically sound and experienced quarterbacks in South Florida. His work in the off season has more than paved the way for the success he has achieved. New coach and more of a chance to spotlight his many, many skills.
25. Isaac McDonald, DE/OLB, 6-6, 200, Champagnat Catholic: Over the past two years, there has been much written and said about this big time football talent who has coaches watching his every move. An outside linebacker who will more than likely get the chance to play defensive end at the next level. An extremely athletic and quick football player who will get it done at any level.
Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/hssports/#storylink=cpy
Posted by: Hassan | February 03, 2012 at 11:20 AM
Well Hassan ill go with the early big names....
Give me these guys and sprinkle other guys and im all set...
Cunningham #1 priority (crazy skills)
Deeb
Leroy Clark
Matthew Thomas
Jamal Carter
Denver Kirkland
Joey Bosa
Posted by: UpNorthCane27 | February 03, 2012 at 11:28 AM
that joey bosa kid hassan just watched some fill......... crazy good reminds me of that kid from the texans who was beasting in the playoffs out of wisconsin
Posted by: UpNorthCane27 | February 03, 2012 at 11:32 AM
Soup, replied to your email late last night, no hurry. Thx again.
Posted by: MIA Chi 'Cane '98 | February 03, 2012 at 11:36 AM
Cunningham is VERY good but for me because Miami always seems to have these Fast Playmakers he is not as much as a MUST Get, although I want him badly too lol
But Bosa and Deeb if you watch a lot of Football Esp at the HS level they seem to be ADVANCED in both body and technique, those kids look like 3 year starters adn big time difference makers.
BTW not sure if you guys saw the quotes that Coach D said that Soup eluded to in this article but the "Derecruitment" Process already has begun. Remember big Jelani Hamilton saying we was only going to play DE?"Hamilton is up to 270 now- and that is telling me that, I don't believe the kid is going to be able to stop his growth spurts. He already has a big fram at 6'5 so, He may start out at DE but, I see him moving to the inside next year. His body is just not gonna allow him to keep his weight down like he wants. Wherever he is- he will be big for us" Coach D
Posted by: Hassan | February 03, 2012 at 11:45 AM
Hassan...when posting that much info please break it into two or four parts and post them separately. Thank U!
Posted by: SOUP | February 03, 2012 at 11:52 AM
Posted by: UMike | February 03, 2012 at 10:54 AM
U r right. But a competent coaching staff with a Plan combined with some on the field success...winning...will also work wonders in keeping kids "home"
Posted by: DallasTX Cane | February 03, 2012 at 11:52 AM
I love the fact that the coaches are looking for specifics in the players they recruit. I cant wait to see a more physical, faster, smarter and hard working team. I know its early, but when you take into consideration how Jacory, Streeter and some of the others played last year, you have to be confident about this coaching staffs ability to really get the most out of their players. I don't think anyone would doubt that Coach G,D,F,K,B and others got the most out of last years team. The evidence is in the last game of the season. I think after being pushed so hard all season, the players just relaxed and gave up kind of like the last week of a semester when you know its all coming to an end and just lose interest. Up until then though they were playing hard. If they can get those guys to play all out, I say look out for next season. No I do not believe we will win the ACC, still not enough depth and too young. But I think we will be where Virgina was in 2011, They were 1 game away from playing in the ACCCG. I think we will be that team going into 2013 with a lot of momentum. I believe a 7 maybe 8 win season. That doesnt sound great, but this class was the first time the program has had stability in over a year. There is still one more obstacle (NCAA investigation), but we are turning the corner, getting our bearings and moving forward. Once the NCAA hands down their punishment (hopefully soon), look out cause we will be full speed ahead.
Go Canes!
Posted by: TheWhat | February 03, 2012 at 11:56 AM
Oh and one more thing. Thank you to everyone here for the great signing day coverage and for the great commentary by the visitors. It really keeps the convo going and makes it enjoyable to stop by every day.
Posted by: TheWhat | February 03, 2012 at 11:57 AM
Matthew Thomas, George Williams and Michael Deeb are must have LB's in the '13 cycle. We get those three and our LB corps will be right where it should be.
Posted by: 3G Cane | February 03, 2012 at 12:05 PM
86 - this was article was some of your best work. Felt like I was there. It was nice that the coaches were out and about speaking with people.
Posted by: CGNC | February 03, 2012 at 12:07 PM
Posted by: Hassan | February 03, 2012 at 11:45 AM
If we base out of a 3-4, Jelani would essentially be playing inside as a 4 or 5 technique DE...
Posted by: CaneRock | February 03, 2012 at 12:25 PM
SOUP Laz's family and mine take up the entire 4th row in section 432. He really gets wild during the games.
Posted by: SlingBlade | February 03, 2012 at 12:34 PM
CBS Sports Miami - The ACC, taking into account the pending addition of Syracuse and Pittsburgh, announced future regular-season scheduling formats Friday. Miami will stay in the Coastal division. Syracuse will join the Atlantic division, Pittsburgh will enter the Coastal division. Miami and Florida State will remain “crossover partners.”
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | February 03, 2012 at 12:39 PM
Soup, great blog!
Posted by: j.w. | February 03, 2012 at 12:40 PM
Wish they would trade Ga. Tech and UVA to the Atlantic and send Syr. and B.C. to the Atlantic. Would be nice to get all of our former Big East brethren back together again.
Posted by: j.w. | February 03, 2012 at 12:49 PM
The big thing we need to do with scheduling is to try and get VT and FSU, one home and one away. As it stands we have FSU, VT and UNC, home OR away together.
Posted by: Jiggafras | February 03, 2012 at 01:04 PM
Thank you to everyone here for the great signing day coverage and for the great commentary by the visitors. It really keeps the convo going and makes it enjoyable to stop by every day.
Posted by: TheWhat | February 03, 2012 at 11:57 AM
The pleasure is all on this side of the blog! LOL
We do what we can, when we can, with what we have. It ain't much but it is enough most of the time. Thanks for stopping by and being part of The Space.
Posted by: SOUP | February 03, 2012 at 01:05 PM
SOUP Laz's family and mine take up the entire 4th row in section 432. He really gets wild during the games.
Posted by: SlingBlade | February 03, 2012 at 12:34 PM
NICE! I'll have to come visit U guys during games this season. He was PSYCHED at the NSD event. I can only imagine what he is like at games!
Posted by: SOUP | February 03, 2012 at 01:07 PM
Hassan...when posting that much info please break it into two or four parts and post them separately. Thank U!
Posted by: SOUP | February 03, 2012 at 11:52 AM
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Roger that Sir!!
I might email you some articles I am going to want to write.
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If we base out of a 3-4, Jelani would essentially be playing inside as a 4 or 5 technique DE...
Posted by: CaneRock | February 03, 2012 at 12:25 PM
Yeah Looks Like we are moving in that direction or at least PT. But eitehr way we are definately moving towards the bigger stronger kids, we will still take a smaller guy but he has to be SPECIAL.
IMO on Bosa he is like Grimble who was a high 4 star kid but Bosa seems to be more advanced I have been high on this kid for awhile.
Deeb is huge 238 already and can run, I think we need BIG MLB that can really fill the gaps.
Posted by: Hassan | February 03, 2012 at 01:27 PM
Soup good article,
In mentioning Alabama, he forgot to mention talent. You can have big strong stiffs up front but they have to have some talent and top that off with 6'3 245 or bigger LBs, there De-Line could block out the sun. You should see 3 of the LBs they brouht in this year, they're already in the 230 range. We need one more good recruiting class, which again should be heavy on the defensive side of the ball, especially the front 7. We are still not where we need to be at Lb as far as numbers. If we can hit the mother load recruiting next year that should get us back on the highway and get us off these country roads we've been traveling.
Posted by: herbieibis | February 03, 2012 at 01:32 PM
Herbie...gotta win more game this season than last to show the next class we are on the way. That is going to be tough with how young the team is but remeber:
NO EXCUSES!
Posted by: SOUP | February 03, 2012 at 02:24 PM
It used to be there was very little news in public on the recruiting and signing of players. This has become a big business. Unless of course you were on the inside. By the time we saw the kid he was a red shirt sophomore actually on the field.
That was the time after we saw the kid playing we would say. .damn where this kid come from? He gonna be a beast...i remember when Gore came in for the first time and i think it was on his first series he busted through the middle of the field and outran everyone to the endzone. We knew rite then this guy had special speed. If only he hand not injured his knee he would not have been set back in his development. But thats the only time you really know.
Posted by: mi@mic@ne | February 03, 2012 at 02:35 PM
Golden made an interesting comment in his press conference on signing day...he said something to the effect that "we will be lucky to be at 80 players next year"...I assume that he means there will be more attrition...or some will not qualify...?
Thoughts on what he meant, anybody?
Posted by: Texascane | February 03, 2012 at 03:22 PM
I was curious about that too, Texas. My guess is that he's sending a message to some of our guys that they have one more semester to figure things out, or it's time to hit the pavement. Some of the "clock punchers" that he was referring to at the end of last season?
Posted by: j.w. | February 03, 2012 at 03:29 PM
Texas and JW, he meant because of the amount of graduating players and players leaving early, coupled with the limit on scholarships to give out this year, it will put us around 80 players total.
He said it would take a year or 2 to get that back to 85.
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | February 03, 2012 at 03:34 PM
This is probably a 6 or 7 win team. But remember, the QB changes everything.
Ryan Williams!
Posted by: LB | February 03, 2012 at 03:38 PM
Texas,
We brought in 33 guys. You can bring in only 25 a year. If you have early entries, like we did this year, those count against last years, which we have 9, I believe EE's.
We had about 5 or 6 guys transfer last year, we also had 2 guys that never made it in, that verballed with us last year, Grooms & Kinard. We added or 7 guys last Spring. An OL, Junior Alexis, Mike Williams, Corey King, Williams at QB, & Blake Ayles. Top that off with the number of graduates and Early entries to the draft, we probably are off 5. We might have one ship left and we'll probably pick up somebody later in the Spring. I'm sure those numbers are skewed due to the fact, Golden knows who won't be back after the Spring Semester. Look for us to pick up a tranfers or 2, later on. If we don't get to hard by sanctions, we should be back up to snuff next year and who's to say, they maynot have rendered a decision by then and we can load up again.
Posted by: herbieibis | February 03, 2012 at 03:46 PM
Soup,
Right on brotha about the W' & L's. The team next year, especially the depth chart, will be green as peas. I'm looking for a record similar to this years, although for the life of me, I can't see how any of those other ACC teams, aside from Fla. ST, Va Tech & maybe Clemson, should be on the same field as us, even in our greenest years.
Posted by: herbieibis | February 03, 2012 at 03:51 PM
I think this 2012 team is gonna surprise some of U. I think they'll better than last year's 6-6 team.
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | February 03, 2012 at 03:56 PM
No SOUP, seriously, how much of that last third of this article is truth and how much of it is rhetorical device?
Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | February 03, 2012 at 04:02 PM
Ohio..I agree. All the games we lost were close, and this team will be physically and mentally stronger and we should have less distractions also, I think that accounts for a couple wins .. imo
Posted by: UMike | February 03, 2012 at 04:18 PM
Thanks, Ohio.
Posted by: j.w. | February 03, 2012 at 04:38 PM
To my understanding we still have one available scholarship. Stefon Diggs is still unsigned. Every article I ever read about the kid he mentioned THE U and every picture I ever saw of him he was either throwing up THE U or was wearing a UM t-shirt or hat. Whatever happened with him. Could that be the "SURPRISE" that I'm still waiting for from NSD ?
Posted by: The Wizard | February 03, 2012 at 04:48 PM
Golden made an interesting comment in his press conference on signing day...he said something to the effect that "we will be lucky to be at 80 players next year"...I assume that he means there will be more attrition...or some will not qualify...?
Thoughts on what he meant, anybody?
Posted by: Texascane | February 03, 2012 at 03:22 PM
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That is exactly what I was thinking about earlier today, I did nto want to post on it because I just can not wrap my head around it yet, there are too many variables that we are not privy to I guess. One would think you look at the roster adn additions and subtractions it would be easy to figure out but there is always more to it. What that said this PROVES that ITU does not know JACK BEANS about what goes on inside the Hecht. That article I discussed here where they reported that there would be mass 'Cuts" turns out to not be true at all, maybe one or two guys goes but for right now we can not even fill out the roster let alone need to cut people. Not to mention Thompson has a 75% chance to be Drafted in the top 5 making him and instant millionaire and the Next A-Rod Westminster Qb Cane commit to turn Pro Baseball, maybe he can donate 4 million and sit on our board soon like A Rod?
Posted by: Hassan | February 03, 2012 at 04:49 PM
The Wizard, I'm pretty sure he's deciding between Ohio State, Floriduh, and Auburn. Not us.
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | February 03, 2012 at 04:49 PM
Hassan, I posted on that earlier. It's the simple fact of more players leaving (graduation/early NFL) than we're allowed to bring in.
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | February 03, 2012 at 04:51 PM
Ohio, what happened ? He seemed like a lock to come here.
Posted by: The Wizard | February 03, 2012 at 04:52 PM
Didn't he also have a highly touted teammate that also wanted to come here ?
Posted by: The Wizard | February 03, 2012 at 04:53 PM
I have no idea what happened with Diggs. Hadn't heard anything on him to The U in a long time now.
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | February 03, 2012 at 04:55 PM
I thought Diggs was high on Maryland to..or was that another top guy?
Posted by: UMike | February 03, 2012 at 05:41 PM
UMike, MD is in his top 5, but I thought I read those are the 3 he's picking from. I could be wrong
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | February 03, 2012 at 06:05 PM
Da Skreetz said 5-7 guys MAY transfer but AFTER the Winter break and the Spring practices.
1. IF the current players did not meet their off-season requirements of 14 workouts and reading the TWO books then it COULD be adios amigo. No clock punchers need apply.
2. In Spring when ALL the NEW guys (33) come in and the OLD guys realize they have been passed by and will not play at UM then SOME may transfer. Get better or get gone.
3. Then there are the other issues that we will leave alone.
Be easy, go slow, be deliberate and keep your computer tuned into Canespace...
Posted by: SOUP | February 03, 2012 at 06:40 PM
I don't think that last spot is filled by any big surprises..maybe a late addition to help fill an area of need.
Posted by: UMike | February 03, 2012 at 06:42 PM