Friends Don't Let Friends Go To FSU

I should let you know that out of respect to country music legend Willie Nelson I was going to title this blog article: "Mommas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up To Be Seminoles".  But that would be disrespectful to Willie and so I just couldn't do it.

But seriously what you may not realize is that if a high school athlete really cared about getting a college education (some obviously don't) and if they all knew what I knew about academics and Florida State University then they would have to admit that the blog title is 100% accurate and factually true.

Friend don't let friends go to Florida State.

In fact it could be argued that the words "academics" and "Florida State University" should never appear in the same sentence unless the word "failure" comes right before or after those words.

Now, all I am asking is for if for you to just give me a few minutes to prove it. I did all the research, I crunched all of the numbers and I have to say that what I found left me a little bit shocked at the actual findings and results.

I looked at the NCAA Academic Progress Report Scores for the three major revenue producing men's college sports: football, basketball and baseball. If you are not familiar with the NCAA's APR it is an annual report that measures the year-to-year and four year aggregate academic performance of a university's athletic teams in all intercollegiate sports.

I went to the NCAA web site to research and compare FSU's APR scores in the three major sports with what are considered the four other major universities in Florida (Miami, Florida, Central Florida and South Florida) and all twelve of the Atlantic Coast Conference teams and what I found was basically this:

It was nearly impossible to find one single example in any sport that favored the Seminoles.

I guess if one thing can be said about FSU is that they are consistent. As in consistently bad. But don't take my word for it, just let the numbers and stats do the trash talking for me.

Football: The Seminoles and Dumbo, excuse me Jimbo Fisher, came in dead last in the State of Florida and 10th out of the 12 teams in the ACC.

• The ACC average APR score was 957.
• FSU missed that low water mark by 25 points with a score of 932
• That is just two points above the minimal accepted NCAA score of 930.
• Not surprisingly Duke led the conference in football with a 986 score.
• Miami came in second at 979. The 'Noles trailed Miami by 47 points.
• Even UF (976), UCF (971) and USF (952) scored higher than FSU.

Basketball: The Seminoles and former UM head coach Leonard Hamilton who apparently moved on to easier pickings should be ashamed. FSU did worse in roundball than in football in the APR rankings:

• The ACC average for basketball was 961.
• Miami came in well above that at 975.
• FSU scored a embarrassing 926,the 2nd lowest in the ACC (GT 915).
• Even UF (964), USF (937) and UCF (929) outscored the Seminoles.

Baseball:  Finally we get to the Seminoles pride and their celebrated head coach Mike Martin. When you see the final results it is enough to make you choke on your mustard covered hot dog:

• The ACC average was 977.
• Miami came in third in the ACC and scored 989 (Duke 1000, UVA 992).
• FSU came in at 938 and LAST in the ACC (next lowest was MD at 949).
• UF pulled off a 981 and UCF a 980 both below Miami at 989.

These facts beg the question: Why would friends let friends go to FSU?

Comments

[LB]

Whoa, Is that a first?

[LB]

I just randomly dropped by. My first "first!"

I'd like to thank the Academy and everyone who made this possible.

[4-Real]

WHAT IS THIS NEW FOUND OBSESSION WITH FSU ALL OF A SUDDEN??!! LET IT GO!! JEEZ!!

[86Cane]

4-Real...It is officially HATE week.

U don't like it PLEASE go find another blog and do it NOW. We will NOT miss U! Good bye 4-Real...LOL

[4-Real]

OUCH!!

[86Cane]

4-Real...Here it is: I love U for your contraian position on most UM issues (especially recruiting) because it generates comments but if you have to go U have to go.

Only U can decide that. It is HATE week.

Say U HATE FSU or else...

[4-Real]

Of course I hate FSU and all that oppose the U, but as a TRUE CANES FAN I'm just used 2 us bn the NATION OF DOMINATION, not the NATION OF HATERATION :(

[Hassan]

To Dominate you have to be driven and nothing drives like HATE, I HATE FSU. True Canes have always Hated FSU. You do not hit people like Barrow did that poor guy unless you hate them. Go watch Vilma crushing RIX, that is pure hate and i love it.

[Hassan]

I am stealing this comment from another site but I think the guy nailed it

Player Development Under Al Golden Reply
I don't know if enough can be said for the job that this staff is doing in regards to player development. And I have to give kudos to Golden AND coach Swasey for what they've been able to accomplish over the last 2 years in terms of physical development of these players.
When Golden came in he saw that players weren't finishing and that their guys were getting pushed around. So he crafted and then executed a plan with coach Swasey to remedy those issue.s

Year 1 - The focus was clearly on conditioning and being able to finish plays and games. That was mission accomplished. Miami was hanging in every game last year and a result of that is because they had the energy at the end of the game to still be competing. They didn't always win, but it wasn't because they weren't in great shape.

Year 2 - The focus has clearly been on strength training. 'This team, the 2012 team, needs to get stronger'. Judging by the offseason weight and strength training gains all signs point to this being a massive success as well. Just watching the spring game you can tell we're going to have a much more physical, punishing defense.

These are two of the biggest issues that Golden saw with this team when he arrived and they are well on their way to being fixed. And that's within 2 offseasons!

Imagine what these guys are going to look like after spending 4 years in Golden's offseason programs? The guy was turning 1 star kids into monsters at Temple. Imagine what these 3 and 4 star kids who are naturally gifted are going to look like after developing for 4 years under him? It's going to be a team full of monsters.

I love what I'm seeing terms of player development under coach Golden.

[Swami for CEO]

Bring it Hassan, BRING THE HATE!

[4-Real]

Hassan, anyone familiar with the U ( the CEO especially ) knows that FSU never has nor probably ever will be a TRUE threat 2 the U dynasty. Now those bastards over in Gainesville on the other hand......

[Swami for CEO]

4-Real...this is HATE week. Tell us U HATE the Gators or are a UF undercover agent as suspected by many here?

[orange 'n green in the vein]

I read an article in LA four or five years ago that sums up my feelings on this exactly. It was about some hood feud with one set from some block not liking the set from the block around the way, I forget the exact players in the piece and the exact neighborhoods but they interviewed some character about his feelings for his neighbors and he said, gesturing their way while he spoke, "I feel like they're all huge cockroaches over there and I wish I was a big can of bug-spray so I could just spray all over the air over them until there were none left."

That about sums up how I feel about the village people and their fans and I hope Golden ruins their best chance since 2000 for a national title this year someway, even if he has to go Spygate on them to do so or pull Porter out of mothballs to officiate and pay back the debt he owes our football program for Fiesta '03.

[4-Real]

I MOS DEFINITELY HATE THE GAYTORS.!!!! ALMOST AS BAD AS I HATE ALABAMA, FOLLOWED BY OHIO ST!!!

[4-Real]

Does anybody know if Danny Dillard reported to school yet?

[Ohio_Cane]

Estime commits to Purdue. Lol

[4-Real]

Estime will be 20 yrs old when he enrolls @ Purdue

[Willie Will in Nashville]

Estime commits to Purdue. Lol

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | June 28, 2012 at 11:02 PM

Are you kidding me???? Lol

[4-Real]

Estime didn't get a U offer after all, thank God.

[Sota cane]

So i saw the skreets saying 75% of our incoming dbs are being looked at for wr... Vernon davis obviously being one but who else?

[Montreal-Cane]

Not too long ago some FSU students athletes
couldn't read and write. This is true and sad. Remember the FSU academic scandal...This was more serious than Shapiro's allegations...

[Sota cane]

Btw for hate week i gota say uf and osu are tops with fsu a close second. I actually want them to win most games just for the simple fact that it will look better beating a good fsu team then a slouch

[Montreal-Cane]

The FSU kickers couldn't read the play book...instead of reading between the posts,
they read wide right and wide left.

[Sota cane]

Question: am i correct our safties after this year will be highsmith, kacy rodgers, deon bush and rayshawn jenkins? If thats the case there is no way we better let jamal carter go anywhere else or hargreaves!

[Montreal-Cane]

Florida State running back James Wilder Jr. admitted to violating the terms of his probation during a plea hearing Thursday and agreed to serve three additional days in jail to complete his sentence...

[TheWhat]

FSU is doodoo.

[Montreal-Cane]

June 28th 2012

SOUTH BEND, Ind. -- Former Notre Dame assistant football coach Corwin Brown 42 on Thursday pleaded guilty but mentally ill to charges that he struck his wife and held her hostage with a handgun in a seven-hour. standoff with police.

[nemo2002]

Interesting!

I wonder how FIU compares to FSU and UM? (Sometimes I think that FIU wants to be the FSU of South Florida . . . F Sweetwater U . . ?)

I would also be interested in the average "announced attendance" for home games in each of the "big three" men's sports (especially football) at each of the four major universities in Florida (plus the one local pretender) and also the ACC.

[LB]

Even dirty crotches smell better than Florida State.

"WHAT IS THIS NEW FOUND OBSESSION WITH FSU ALL OF A SUDDEN??!! LET IT GO!! JEEZ!!"

As for newfound obsessions, it's nothing new. They were pillaging dreams and ruining lives as early as time. Who do you think chuckled when Satan gave Eve the apple? Doesn't Bobby Bowden look suspiciously like Robert E. Lee with bad makeup? And who do you think created the foul beast which is Justin Beiber?

The loathing is not unfounded.

[LB]

Nurse Ratched got her degree from FSU, the bastion of cruelty and malevolence.

[Ohio_Cane]

Are you kidding me???? Lol

Posted by: Willie Will in Nashville | June 28, 2012 at 11:15 PM

No, I'm not kidding.

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Estime didn't get a U offer after all, thank God.

Posted by: 4-Real | June 28, 2012 at 11:28 PM

The only question now is, does that hurt our chances with Keith Bryant?

[Ohio_Cane]

Jon Bastian - Louisiana 2013 DE Tim Williams said Miami is his dream school. He will be visiting at the end of this month and in August.

[UpNorthCane27]

I cnt tell you guys how much i hate FSWHOO!!!!I literally looked through the dictionary trying to find the perfect word that sums up the hatred i have for FSWHOO, GAYTORS, and OHIO ST and all the words fell short of what i was looking for..... But yea i hate them , i hate their fans, and i hate all their players who go there and think they are gonna start a dynasty like UM..... get the f*** outta here UM above all!!!

[LB]

Every bad idea ever conceived is scientifically proven to be from Florida State.

"Stealing candy from a baby" is a concept created by the Seminole football team as an educational tool for interpersonal relations.

[LB]

Whenever Florida State scores, God cries.

[LB]

Whenever Michael Bolton asked the infamous question "Can I Touch You There?," the Florida State football players immediately answered yes. How terrible!

Despite popular belief, Santa Claus exists. He has been kidnapped by the Seminole football team. Locked in their most horrible dungeon, his eyelids have been taped open and he is being forced to watch "From Justin To Kelly."

The words "Florida State Seminoles" actually derive from an ancient Sumerian phrase. The English translation? "Unmercifully obnoxious assholes."

[LB]

It's always a good idea to lock up your daughters, mothers, babies, wives, grandmothers, parents, animals, neighbors, Snicker bars, Doritos, Justin Bieber albums, car keys, feminine hygiene products, doggie treats, and trash can lids when the Seminoles come to town.

New classes appearing in FSU football player schedules. Satanism 305: Why God Sucks. Child Abuse 101: Because the Little Pricks Deserve It. History 212: The History of Dirty Underwear and its Importance In American Society. Sociology 097: Civil Disobedience Is Cool. Zoology 303: Fundamentals of Animal Cruelty.

The seven deadly sins of the Florida State football team. 1. Happiness. 2. Charity. 3. Love. 4. Friendship. 5. Laughter. 6. Other Stuff. 7. The U.

Today is the anniversary of the “Ballroom Dancing Disaster of 2005.” During a waltz lesson at a retirement community, the ‘Noles invaded and attacked the residents. Walkers went missing, seniors were beaten, and inappropriate photographs were taken. The only evidence linked to the crime was the abundance of empty Dorito bags on the premises.

[LB]

Florida State. Satan’s team.

Just remember kids, every werewolf has its silver bullet. Unfortunately for FSU, their Kryptonite is colored ORANGE and GREEN.

[Ohio_Cane]

Even though he's from FSU, serving in the military through 3 tours of duty over the last 6 years trumps the hate I have for him because of the school he went to.

This was an awesome moment for FSU Center, Bernard James:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90mW37yZHyY&feature=player_embedded

[Ohio_Cane]

In other news: UGA running back Isaiah Crowell arrested and charged with 2 felonies. Weapons related.

[pre83]

Hassan, anyone familiar with the U ( the CEO especially ) knows that FSU never has nor probably ever will be a TRUE threat 2 the U dynasty. Now those bastards over in Gainesville on the other hand......

Posted by: 4-Real | June 28, 2012 at 10:18 PM

4-Real - I'm not sure when you were born, but one of the most anticipated games of every CFB season was born due to the sheer talent and high level of play both the U and FSU brought to the field on an Oct afternoon. The rivalry intensity went stratospheric after the U's first NC and for the next decade or more, the game was more or less THE game each season as the level of success by BOTH teams was incredible.

Now, go look at UF and try to find where they were at that time. The point is that no team stays at the top forever and that the three teams have each been at the top at some point. Simply because FSU and the U have been down with UF being up in recent yrs doesn't mean the tide is not going to turn. FSU was, is and will be a threat and do not mistake them for being down in perpetuity.

I HATE both teams and to me, there is only ONE team that matters, in FL or anywhere!

[herbieibis]

Speaking of Morris, how many ships have we won with a first year starting QB?
If we are going to climb into the Nat'l spot light again it would seem next year would be the time, with most everyone back. We would only be hurting in the secondary, with Telemaque, Armstrong & McGee gone,everywhere else we should be solid.
The only thing I can say positive about FSU, is they actually recruit pretty good, that being said they have done less with more than any team in college football. It couldn't happen to a better team. They have a schedule made from heaven this year and if they were to ever have a chance at being relevent again this should be their year but being that they are choke city USA they're will no nat'l title aspirations for those bums with a 10-2 or 9-3 record. Personally I don't care what they do as long as we thump those snot noses and they don't play for no ships.

[Swami for CEO]

So i saw the skreets saying 75% of our incoming dbs are being looked at for wr... Vernon davis obviously being one but who else?

Posted by: Sota cane | June 28, 2012 at 11:48 PM

Correct Vernon Davis as a WR and as a returner also. I'm not sure who else, let me ask and get back to you.

[LB]

"In other news: UGA running back Isaiah Crowell arrested and charged with 2 felonies. Weapons related."

As I said before: big stars, big baggage.

[Swami for CEO]

4-Real...I hope U know I was just messing with you right? Your cool even though we disagree on just about everything. But that's what blogs are for.

[Hassan]

Can Skreetz talk about this rumor floating around and Ray Ray and Trel. I am going to say this smells like complete BS but the rumor has legs all over and I am not sure anyways the rumor is Ray Ray and Trel have cleaned out there lockers and are gone this summer and not with the team. Sounds like BS to me considering both have been talked about recently by coaches and players in interviews but for some reason this rumor is buzzing around on the other sites.

[herbieibis]

One thing that I wished these high schoolers wouldn't say, "This is my dream school, I grew up rooting for them". The next line out of their mouth we they get offered by that school is "I love the school and have been waitng for this day but I'm keeping my options open and see where the best fit for me is". If a school is your dream school and you get offered by them, what the F is the hold up? You can commit and still take visits. I believe Dee Webb, who went to Florida, said his whole room was done in Miami colors and all he wore was Miami stuff, had a "U" offer. I' rather they just leave the b.s. dream school stuff out.

[Ohio_Cane]

Hassan, I'm checking.

[Swami for CEO]

So far cannot confirm or deny the rumor.

[UpNorthCane27]

I doubt it i hope not Ray Ray is my boy and seemed prime to take over.....And Trell i had a feeling was going to shine this year..

I say bogus, but ive been wrong before.