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July 14, 2012

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MassivCane

First!

TJL

second!!!

Hassan

Anyone who abuses kids is not a man to me

CaneRock

We just have to make sure that we do a better job of watching, and empowering our kids. I have two boys of my own, and while at a football camp one time, a friend of the family was telling me about my boys joining the chorus that His boys were in. He said that the chorus director saw a picture of my boys on the football camp website, and said, "Them some good lookin' boys, they wanna be in the chorus"...HUH!!! So He wants my boys to be in the chorus, based off of a picture on a website? Suffice it to say that my boys won't be on American Idol soon. Who knows, the chorus director may have had good intentions, but as a parent, you have to go with your gut, that just didn't sound right, not right at all.

86Cane

Hassan...those comments are on the last blog. If U want to comment then go there but do not bring that stuff forward. It has nothing to do with UM or sports in general or the purpose behind Canespace.

BTW...I tried to see who posted that comment but it was not a common IP Address or email so they remain anonymous for now.

The What

The statistics on child abuse is very saddening. I wonder how fast paterno would have reacted if it was his grandchild that was the victim. They need to tear down that statue along with the facade that was joe paterno and the "right way" he so deceitfully preached.

The What

By the way soup I really enjoyed this blog entry. Great stuff as usual

WindyCane-Forecast1

I think we will know a lot more about Golden after this season. With the development of the upperclassmen and the new freshmen, we will see where this program is headed.

I actually think the Canes will surprise a lot of people this year. The spring game showed me that the Canes are solid and getting stronger, and I think Steven Morris, Ray Ray, Linder, Seantrel, Perrymen and a few others will be All ACC. I expect Duke, Howard and several other freshmen will be big playmakers.

Golden will have them ready to play in every game, and they will make us proud by the way they play the game.

86Cane

By the way soup I really enjoyed this blog entry. Great stuff as usual

Posted by: The What | July 14, 2012 at 01:24 PM

Thanks! At least I know somebody appreciates it. I try to put in the time do the research so the articles have a little more depth than just: PSU should get the Death Penalty.

The What

Soup - you also bring up a good point. I think all of us on this blog can admit we love the monstrosity that is college football and as you said we area fans are part of the problem. My question is, can you seperate football from the universities and create an nfl minor league that works pretty much the same way college football works today with elimination of the universities. There would be a Miami hurricanes team but it would not be affiliated with the university of Miami in anyway. Is that something feasible and something that people would care to watch? You would lose a lot of the traditions etc. but let's be honest with ourselves. College football and to a lesser degree college basketball has tainted our universities. When kids that go to a university graduate barely capable of reading, writing, or earn a degree that's not worth the paper it's printed on. Then we have to ask ourself if major athletics should be seperated from the universities. Are we the only country in the whole world that has intermingled big time sports and higher education?
With a playoff system coming college football is going to be even bigger in every aspect. At what point does it become "the crimson tide football program, and oh yeah there is a university associated with it as well" or are we already there?

The What

*It should be we as the fans not we area fans*

Ohio_Cane

Nice article, 86!

NCAA 13 update: After 3 games and beating the #11 team in the nation, while the defense is #1 in the country only allowing 3 total points, Mike James is in 2nd for the Heisman, and Tracy Howard is 4th. Lol

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming...

LB

Thank you, CEO.

Once again, you’ve outdone yourself and I cheerfully tip my hat to you. I am proud to be associated with the intelligent, sympathetic, and warm human beings at Canespace. It’s an honor to post beside you, and I appreciate it.

Flash the U and fight injustice, baby.

86Cane

Flash the U and fight injustice, baby.

Posted by: LB | July 14, 2012 at 02:31 PM

There IT is right there.

Sinistercane


Nice article, 86!

NCAA 13 update: After 3 games and beating the #11 team in the nation, while the defense is #1 in the country only allowing 3 total points, Mike James is in 2nd for the Heisman, and Tracy Howard is 4th. Lol

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming...

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | July 14, 2012 at 02:24 PM
I benched Smiley for Johnson, running game is muched improved

LB

"Nice article, 86!

NCAA 13 update: After 3 games and beating the #11 team in the nation, while the defense is #1 in the country only allowing 3 total points, Mike James is in 2nd for the Heisman, and Tracy Howard is 4th. Lol

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming...

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | July 14, 2012 at 02:24 PM
I benched Smiley for Johnson, running game is muched improved"

I'm notorious for redshirting. The ratings improve so much. I keep them in the system as long as possible.

Montreal-Cane

Good article SOUP you should send it to the NCAA President Mark Emmert.

memmert@ncaa.org

SlingBlade

yes i got the emails...thx for the info...now dont lose my email again

Montreal-Cane

CORAL GABLES, Fla. -- The University of Miami announced the official hiring of Chris Yandle to the position of Director of Communications.

Chris Yandle is widely regarded as one of the best young communications professionals in college athletics, said Chris Freet, associate AD for communications & marketing. After watching his work from afar, I was even more impressed with his skills, philosophy and vision as we went through the search process. I am confident our fans will enjoy interacting with Chris, that our media will respect and appreciate his approach and that he will help our staff grow and expand their abilities.

Yandle, who comes to Miami after working for four years at Baylor, will serve as the Hurricanes’ primary football contact and will also oversee day-to-day operations in the athletics communications office.

"My family and I are extremely excited to join the University of Miami family, said Yandle. I strongly believe in Shawn Eichorst's vision for Miami athletics and I am proud to be part of one of the nation's most iconic athletics brands, The U."

CaneRock

Posted by: The What | July 14, 2012 at 02:20 PM

A minor league system such as you suggest won't work, I sure the hell wouldn't watch it. Face it, cheating goes on at every level, that's just a fact that we're going to have to live with. The world ain't perfect, and neither is CFB.

Old Skool

Nice job, Soup, CEO, 86

CaneRock

And I've watched, and been to a few arena games to make up for my offseason fix of waiting for the NFL and CFB start. And despite all the scoring that goes on, it's still boring. I would rather go to a lake and watch two people fish than watch that mess.

orange 'n green in the vein

86, I'm not sure what it says in a big picture type of point of view, but your best stuff here always comes from the sobering topics like this one and the Seau suicide one IMO, they always teach me something and give me something to think about, which I'm always appreciative of. Who'd have thought that would be the case when you started this whole enterprise up all those years ago?

Of course what I was thinking of yesterday before going to sleep was if the name Gray Crow came up north of Tampa between you and your dinner guests a few days ago, and if so what was said? I would have sent over another round of drinks on me if I could have hid in plain site to get the first hand scoop from the next table over! LOL!

CoCane

If u aint cheatin, u aint trying...

86Cane

OGV...I'll take that as a compliment. As U know I work indirectly with social service agencies so these type of topics are near and dear to my heart. I write best when I feel something strongly.

The name "Crow" did NOT come up during our recent pleasurable dinner conversation in North Tampa. I let it ride as I was afraid to rupture Six's cranium as I had no real idea what might spill out.

That man is a lot like U: he has LOTS of facts, stats, knowledge and other stuff running around up there that may never see the light of day.

And I'm not sure that is a good or bad thing? LOL

Ohio_Cane

I benched Smiley for Johnson, running game is muched improved

Posted by: Sinistercane | July 14, 2012 at 02:59 PM
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Like LB, I redshirt a good amount every year. They improve a lot. Usually redshirt anyone 3r string or lower if they're eligible and not a senior. Duke was one of those for this year behind Smiley and Eduardo.

Old Skool

Analysis by the NYTimes on how the NCAA may deal with PSU

http://tiny.cc/efighw

Perhaps the situation that most closely resembles the Penn State case is that of the Baylor men’s basketball team. In 2005, the N.C.A.A. barred Baylor from playing nonconference games for a season after violations that were uncovered in an investigation begun after the murder of a player by his former teammate.

“The N.C.A.A. didn’t punish Baylor because of the criminal violations,” said Michael Buckner, a lawyer who has extensive experience with N.C.A.A. infractions cases. “The N.C.A.A. punished Baylor because of the underlying N.C.A.A. rules violations that were also involved in those activities.” The Sandusky case does not appear to involve any specific N.C.A.A. rule violations. Criminal violations are not necessarily N.C.A.A. violations.

86Cane

Skool..dig deeper, do MORE research on NCAA rules related to the administration's institutional control responsibilities and/or misleading investigators.

roachcane77

Soup,

Nice work for the blog. Those stats on child abuse are scary, but I'll bet you those figures are LOW if anything.

Because of fear of reprisals, many kids won't report abuse, and keep it as a secret.

As a high school teacher for 33 years, (in a fairly decent area), I would estimate students who are "neglected" to be closer to 75%... The stories I hear from kids whose parents are basically "nonexistent" in their lives are too numerous to believe.

The nation was "shocked" when they saw that "bus ride" footage of the middle schoolers harassing the older bus monitor woman...

I was not surprised at all, I see that type of behavior every school day...

Those kids are getting ZERO guidance or moral upbringing at home. They are left on their own, in their rooms with their video games, Facebook, and tweets. Their role models come from "Jersey Shore." They have no moral compass.

Until parents step up and teach their children boundaries, and respect, the "inmates will run the asylum."

It's getting WORSE every year too.

Felipe

Great entry SOUP.

Felipe

It's not a matter of the NCAA lacking jurisdiction or ability to enforce rules regarding lack of administrative or institutional control, Old Skool. There are several pages of statues that deal with such I believe.

It's a matter of the NCAA actually *enforcing* such, which has no precedent to date. Basically, they either toss out the institutional control stuff from the rule book if they do nothing here, or enforce it by making an example of PSU football. Emmert can do either or.

It seems editorial pressure is nearly unanimous in stating that if PSU doesn't itself shut down their football program, then the NCAA should. And I agree.

Nittany Lion hardliners say that's punishing the wrong people, the innocent. What "wrong people"? Some of us want to punish YOU, the mindless Penn State fans who gave these people the power over your entire university and encourage a culture of unquestioning idolatry. You represent the culture of it, and the culture needs to change from what currently serves to protect the university, football program, and monied interests to one concerned with actual human lives.

CaneRock

The NCAA system is OUTDATED,BROKEN, and ASS-BACKWARDS.

Jack

The statue and the building were the rapes took place should be torn down immediately!

Penn State is still paying two of the Administrators who covered this shit up! F%#k penn state! I HATE PENN STATE!!

86Cane

You (PSU fans) represent the culture of it, and the culture needs to change from what currently serves to protect the university, football program, and monied interests to one concerned with actual human lives.

Posted by: Felipe | July 14, 2012 at 06:43 PM

There it is right there.

Ohio_Cane

Papa Cane - FSU DB Tyler Hunter tweets about wanting to kill cops after getting pulled over. Another Nole in the news. Non stop. http://t.co/bgc4u5kk

HILARIOUS!!

86Cane

Ohio...that FSU situation is NOT hilarious, it is SAD.

Very SAD and a statement of our society today.

CaneRock

Papa Cane - FSU DB Tyler Hunter tweets about wanting to kill cops after getting pulled over. Another Nole in the news. Non stop. http://t.co/bgc4u5kk

HILARIOUS!!

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | July 14, 2012 at 10:19 PM

Not surprised, He's just another DUMASS from Valdosta:

Tyler Hunter
(Lowndes HS)
Valdosta, GA

Greg Reid
(Lowndes HS)
Valdosta, GA

CaneRock

And the DUMASS says He's in a "White Charger". Hmmmm, I'd like to know who co-signed for that.

j.w.

Another well-written article, CEO. By the way, check your in-box for some mail.

Felipe

And so PSU sources leak the decision not to take the statue down, on a day when players were what, practicing according to the B1G blog?

Thing is, the school being this cavalier, showing this much bravado in how they just wish to move forward and rebuild a football brand rather than take time, introspect, and change, opens the door for Emmert even more. The precedent to gut a school athletically from a Penn State to a Texas State is there for the taking. And justly, I hope they sieze the day. For the kids' sake.

The hell with Joe Pa. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, no more evident than the guy who most radically betrayed the Penn State motto "may no act of ours bring shame." Inaction counts too, you sick SOB.

orange 'n green in the vein

Note to 18-23 year old student athletes (even ones at glorified community colleges like F$U); never use social media to threaten the life of an officer of the law, it's admissible in court.

Apparently Reid went to the same pot-in-the-car-denial school as Watkins and failed to graduate from there as well. What ever happened to using your rights to deny a consent to a search and seizure so your lawyer can have the evidence thrown out unless the arresting officer gets a warrant?

Felipe

Also, if this article doesn't change someone's mind who currently thinks the death penalty is too strong, then nothing will.

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/53097/psu-fans-staying-loyal-to-joe-paterno

Felipe

"It's unbelievable to think that kind of corruption came right from the top of the power structure. The NCAA did what it had to do" in canceling SMU's 1988 football season.

-Joe Paterno, May 1987.

CaneRock

Khan lost to Garcia last night, another phony one bites the dust.

CGNC

"How could a legitimate, respected and prestigious institution of higher learning become so blinded by winning that it would lose sight of its ethical, professional and legal responsibilities?"


Money, money and more money. Oh and the statue man they all worshiped\were scared of

Nice article 86. Nothing gets my blood boiling more than abused kids and animals as both are truly defenseless

CGNC

You know it would be in the best interest for them to shut down the football program for awhile. Think of how the fans of other teams at games will be with their fans, let alone the players.

RCCF

It would be UnFair to shutdown PSU football those kids had nothing to do with Sandusky's decisions and as fans of a team in trouble U would think we undstnd best but hey I guess not bt hey GlassHouses .. Pots n Kettles remember how U felt whn ppl were calln for U to shutdown the program..


RCCF12%

LB

Does Miami have a statue of someone?

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Perhaps it's because individuals comform to the Ibis, instead of the Ibis conforming to the individual.

Chew on it a bit.

pre83

Posted by: The What | July 14, 2012 at 02:20 PM

The What - I am with you on this topic. I still have a difficult time with the word "athletic scholarship"

Of course, when it is and has been such a large part of our culture as a whole and large part of the university experience, it would be an almost impossible task to change the way "amateur" athletics is run for the sports of football and basketball in particular.

My next door neighbor is from and has lived in Canada until about ten years ago when he and his family moved to the US. Canada's "National" sport of ice hockey is not tied to the country's university system and the way in which major sports have evolved into more than just extra curricular activities within university life simply does not make any sense to keep them linked they way they are. There are far more conflicts than symmetries with the way the two are now intertwined.

I wont' lie, however, I absolutely love CFB, but I also believe it is time to call a spade a spade.

BTW - Fantastic work, TP!!

CGNC

Posted by: RCCF | July 15, 2012 at 09:29 AM

If the punishment fits the crime. Taking money from boosters, getting tats or cheating on a test is NOTHING compared to allowing a known pedophile to roam around your campus raping kids. Those players can go play somewhere else or the school can honor their scholarships and let them go to school, whichever. The love of the football program and the money that went with it is why this happened in the first place. Let them be the academic institution and all that it implies, just no football for awhile

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