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July 11, 2012

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CaneRock

If that isn't lack of institutuional control over athletics, the NCAA should throw that term out.

Posted by: j.w. | July 12, 2012 at 02:16 PM

Yup.

CaneRock

And they never did say what happened to the kid that Sandusky got caught in the shower with. Interesting that that's the only charge He got acquitted on.

CaneRock

Can the DOE shut down an athletic program?

The What

So PSU protecting a pedophile to save their football program and legacy is not an NCAA violation? So if this was a teacher and not a coach would paterno have acted and contacted te police. I say yes cause it wouldn't have affected his football team. NCAA needs to at minimum investigate.

Ohio_Cane

Papa Cane - South Florida High School Sports Feature on 2014 WR Ermon Lane: http://ow.ly/ccuzJ I've been told Miami is #1 on his list.

Ohio_Cane

Also, Rueben Foster to Auburn.

Ohio_Cane

Papa Cane - Profile On 2014 WR Ermon Lane: 6'4'' and 180 lbs. Close friend of UM WR Herb Waters. Arguably the best player in the State today. Gifted.

LB

"VA Cane, Paterno = lifelong Republican. Not to make this a political affiliation thing, as political stripe had an ancillary at best consideration to do with it IMO, this was putting football above the law plain and simple."

+5,000. You nailed it.

orange 'n green in the vein

If you actually get out the NCAA bylaw manual, and don't break your wrist picking it up by one hand, you can open it and find in the first three rules that ethical conduct by presidents is expressly named. If the president of the university behaves unethically in regards to their athletic department, that' a violation right there. Does a president talking to a football coach and being convinced by that talk not to turn in a pederast to the police count as unethical actions . . . only a nittany lion would say no at this point.

UpNorthCane27

The loss of Reuben Foster to Auburn means that Nick Satan will be coming hard for Matthew THomas....Al Golden put your gloves on my man your in for a fight with a dirtbag!!!!

Ohio_Cane

This pic says it ALL!!!

http://pic.twitter.com/L0viXVJt

Felipe

"VA Cane, Paterno = lifelong Republican. Not to make this a political affiliation thing, as political stripe had an ancillary at best consideration to do with it IMO, this was putting football above the law plain and simple."

Word. Pure, plain and simple. OGV for the win. He even refused to meet Hillary Clinton, he was quite the ardent Republican. lulz at liberalism being to blame.

Ohio_Cane

Bobby Bowden just said on ESPN Radio 1450 show that Paterno's statue should be removed.

Wow... I'm surprised he said that.

j.w.

Canerock: The DOE can revoke all financial aid to a school. They have never done that, though. There's always a first, and if this isn't a candidate, there's no point in having the law.

Ohio_Cane

"This is one chapter in a very, very big life," Jay Paterno on calls to remove Joe's statue.

So Dan Walken responds on twitter: My only problem with Jay Paterno is him saying this is a "small part" of Joe's life. Same is true of many historically disgraced figures. "Watergate was only a small part of Nixon's life." and "Double-murder was only a small part of O.J.'s life."

Felipe

Yup. Well said Ohio Cane. I must be part of that conversation on twitter or something. Someone responded to me, "The problem is that it *was* a small part of his life, so small he didn't even care about those kids. At all."

+1

CGNC

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | July 12, 2012 at 02:29 PM

+10

CGNC

Jay Paterno needs to STFU and find a place for that statue that's about to come down.

j.w. - LOL those clowns lied and then lied about the lies. Makes me wonder what other stuff was "handled" by that crew. You know there was more, had to be.

orange 'n green in the vein

O_C, once the Paterno family comes out with a statement of apology for the fraud in the big chair diverting gay child rape allegations twice in three years away from the authorities then they should have a talk about keeping the statue if they so desire (why would you? It's going to have to be put behind a Maginot Line of defense to keep the Pinocchio noses being put on the face of the thing for all eternity by those who want to keep the focus on where it should be in regards to his legacy) but until somebody says that they're sorry for what was done, then I doubt they really are and he shouldn't be memorialized as a leader.

Ohio_Cane

OGV, completely agree. It needs removed, and IMO, will be. The only way it won't be vandalized is if it's surrounded by a cage of PSU memorabilia.

I also agree completely with the analogy Dan Walken gave relating it to Nixon and Watergate.

j.w.

j.w. - LOL those clowns lied and then lied about the lies. Makes me wonder what other stuff was "handled" by that crew. You know there was more, had to be.

Posted by: CGNC | July 12, 2012 at 04:40 PM

I was thinking that as well, CGNC. So true, these guys got away with whatever they wanted for years.

LB

"Bobby Bowden just said on ESPN Radio 1450 show that Paterno's statue should be removed.

Wow... I'm surprised he said that."

He has to. He's still a public figure, regardless. I just hope he believes it, despite his former collegiate affiliation.

Even if the NCAA doesn't have jurisdiction, they need to address it in some fashion. It sends a message to other schools and sets precedent.

And I DARE anyone to try to compare this to UM's investigation. DARE them.

4-Real

Quay Bain names UM his leader according 2 canesport. 1/3 of my killer B's!

orange 'n green in the vein

"And I DARE anyone to try to compare this to UM's investigation. DARE them.

Posted by: LB | July 12, 2012 at 05:52 PM"

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/19570830/let-freehs-damning-report-ring-king-football-needs-to-answer-for-sins

Mr. Clean at CBS takes your dare and raises you an OSU.

86Cane

Vernon Hargreaves leader right now is USC.

Posted by: SlingBlade | July 12, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Sling...check your email while I LOL!

86Cane

Back in the CC after three days on the road.

86Cane

Sling...can't find your email. U know what to do.

Old Skool

Looks like Joe was an enabler to pedophelia. A man complicit in Sandusky's crimes

Apparently Joe was involved in the 2001 decision not to report Sandusky to child-welfare authorities.

As a result, another 7 children were raped in the interim.

It's not just time to remove his name from the campus library but remove Joe's statue. Melt it down and use it to make sewer pipe better yet, have a fundraiser, let people to pay 5 bucks a shot to flatten it with a sledgehammer and give the money to the victims ... then melt it down and use it to make ....

Old Skool

There's mass murder. How about mass rape?
How many constitutes 'mass' and within what time frame?

If Louis Freeh's report is accurate, Joe's complicit in at least 7 rapes over 10 years.

Old Skool

From Wikepedia ...

Crimes against humanity, as defined by the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court Explanatory Memorandum, "are particularly odious offenses in that they constitute a serious attack on human dignity or grave humiliation or a degradation of one or more human beings. They are not isolated or sporadic events, but are part either of a government policy or of a wide practice of atrocities tolerated or condoned by a government or a de facto authority (A university president and a football coach?)

Murder; extermination; torture; rape; political, racial, or religious persecution and other inhumane acts reach the threshold of crimes against humanity only if they are part of a widespread or systematic practice.

Is 45 times widespread?

Crime against humanity may be a little extreme, but it's not out of the question.


4-Real

F*@k Penn St!! Enuff about Crimetime ( PSU ) now back 2 Primetime!! ( the U )

SlingBlade

Sling...can't find your email. U know what to do.

Posted by: 86Cane | July 12, 2012 at 07:19 PM

texted you my email...

TonyCane

I've said this before, but since it appears that Penn State deliberately allowed this to tanspire to protect the football program, the football program should go.

- The Big 10 should eject Penn State from football.

- The school shut down the football program, forever.

- The current athletes should have their tuitions paid, be allowed to transfer, and be given a financial settlement by the school for their trouble.

- The stadium at Happy Valley should be razed.

LB

I don't think you all are overreacting at all. It's about time someone got emotional for victims rather than a football team.

Felipe

I'm still pissed at the political nonsense brought up earlier. The notion that liberalism entails such a radical 'cultural' relativism as to ignore crimes as "just someone's thing" is high comedy. Liberalism is about recognizing and reconciling individual rights (see: Bill of Rights) with the interests of society. Liberals might find criminalizing certain petty drugs as a clear violation of what's in the best interest of both society and the individual, but the idea that child rape, which is what this is, falls under that to those who don't understand the history of American liberalism, speaks to the misunderstanding in itself.

If you really don't know what you're talking about when characterizing "the other side," then why open your mouth and insert foot at all? It wasn't even political, my god.

Hope Penn State is removed from the B1G and goes the way of Texas State.

The What

Ive heard a couple media members on the radio say the death penalty is in order for PSU. Anyone keeping up with ESPN, etc to see if they are calling for the death penalty. If a booster throwing parties disgusted the media what does a pedophile allowed to rape boys for some 10 after first revealed. Now that the criminal has concluded its time for the NCAA to step in and cancel their PSUs upcoming season.
Can you imagine the football team running out on the field and playing with all the sick things that were allowed simply for that same football team to continue winning.

Death penalty to PSU football.

Montreal-Cane

If the NCAA doesnt kill the PSU football program for protecting a child molester for the sake of the football program then the NCAA is a bigger joke than everyone already knows it is. This was all about football in terms of hiding it. Kill the program as a lesson to all universities and college football programs in the country that people's lives and specifically children's lives will not be forsaken for the sake of football.

Posted by: The What | July 12, 2012 at 10:28 AM

If that isn't lack of institutuional control over athletics, the NCAA should throw that term out.

Posted by: j.w. | July 12, 2012 at 02:16 PM

Best posts of this month so far.

Ohio_Cane

First game of NCAA 13 and Tracy Howard gets 2 INT's with 1 TD!!

HEISMAN!!

TonyCane

PSU should kill it's own program.

I remember when I was at Miami back in the 90s, I heard that there was a certain fraternity at FSU who had a member that committed a rape on the front lawn of the frat house, while no one did anything. That fraternity was banned from FSU. Not just for a year, or 10 years. Or 100 years. Forever.

That should be the model here. PSU should permanently end its program, and if they don't then the Pennsylvania legislature should step in and force it to happen.

And if they refuse, every team on their schedule should refuse to play them.

Ohio_Cane

I have one problem with this game so far... When U start out in recruiting, one of the pitches are "Pro Potential". Miami has a B grade? Gimme a friggin break. EA Sports blew that one...

Ohio_Cane

Ps - Sling's post about best roster is right so far. "mtemple93" is it. Except u have to create Tracy Howard. He missed that one. Some numbers are wrong, but everything else looks good

CaneRock

I'll tell ya' what, PSU players are gonna catch hell on the field this season. My buddy's son plays on a certain team on their schedule, and you'd be shocked at some of the trash talk their preparing to unleash on PSU players.

LB

I have one problem with this game so far... When U start out in recruiting, one of the pitches are "Pro Potential". Miami has a B grade? Gimme a friggin break. EA Sports blew that one...

I guess the last 20 years of NFLU were simply a mirage?

raizecane


I'll tell ya' what, PSU players are gonna catch hell on the field this season. My buddy's son plays on a certain team on their schedule, and you'd be shocked at some of the trash talk their preparing to unleash on PSU players.

Posted by: CaneRock | July 13, 2012 at 12:09 AM

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The kids on the current roster had nothing to do with what happened and taking it out on them is wrong...of course this is the nature of the beast.

canesteeler

The statue of Joe Pa needs to come down. To protect a vile human being who preyed on vulnerable children from single parent, economically challenged families, makes me want to throw up. I don't think the NCAA has the balls to step in and sanction PSU, however the football program will start to look like Temple of the 80's because kids are not going to go there and talk about negative recruiting tatics. Every coach in America will be in kids livingrooms asking them do you want to play for a school that protects pedophiles? Also think about the financial hit that is coming as a result of lawsuits and the fact that the money generated by the football program funds damn near every other sport at the school. Happy Valley is no longer happy!

herbieibis

Rb/Db Chris Carson to decide between Miami & Auburn this Sunday, Supposedly!

Old Skool

When you sacrifice innocent children to protect a football program from bad publicity, there must be atonement. I don't think cutting checks will redeem the crime or the sin.

Ohio_Cane

I guess the last 20 years of NFLU were simply a mirage?

Posted by: LB | July 13, 2012 at 07:27 AM
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Exactly. I about fell outta my chair when I saw a B grade. Not even a B+??

canesteeler

Old Skool nothing can redeem what thet allowed to happened.

Willie Will in Nashville

Ohio,

Is the NCAA 13 better than last year? And didn't we have at least a A for pro potential last year?

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