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July 25, 2012

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86Cane

NEW BLOG IS UP!

solarcane

Six ,this


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ70LbuKcVM&feature=related

WindyCane-Forecast1

Rivals - 10 commits, with avg. star 3.6 - only 4 teams on rivals top 25 have a higher average star rating.

Espn - 10 commits, with avg. 3.7 stars. The 5 ESPN 150 and another in ESPN 300 is among the tops.

Scout, avg. 3.5, rank 21

The quality is there, its just the numbers are small.

solarcane

NCAA13 weird science,

desmond literally runs through a ref and some other nifty but sketchy graphics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=66VZ7acPAuY

86Cane

WURD ON DA SKREETZ IZ:

Of the ballahs that have made the public commit to Miami I would say Collins wouldnt be part of ink day down here. Boi done been messin around with Al and Fisch to da&@ much. They got backup plans they could lock up in a sec. Aint no f n beauty queen divas slidin to the Gables anymore.

LB

Applause.

86Cane

Vernon Hargreaves‏@VHargreaves24

I can officially say I am committed to THE University of Florida ! #GoGators CHOMP CHOMP

Posted by: j.w. | July 26, 2012 at 06:13 PM

All I'm gonna say is this: ;-)

TonyCane

Herbeibis, don't worry. This should be the last year in Al Golden's tenure that you see an ACC list like that. He just laid the cement foundation for the program this year and part of the frame. Next year the rest of the frame goes up. 2014 is the roof and interior fittings.

TonyCane

JW...I hope you're right. I go back and forth on this. I want to be optimistic and believe the 5 scholie, 2 year bowl ban.

One thing that got me worried was reading about SMU's situation in the 1980s. When the final set of allegations broke, they were very proactive in cooperating with the NCAA. Some in the NCAA were recommending an extension of the existing sanctions, but they were overruled and all the cooperation got SMU was a 1-year shutdown instead of a 2-year ban. I just hope that our cooperation with the NCAA yields real benefits, and not just a tiny reduction in a ridiculous sanction.

That said, no more posting my worries about what could or could not happen. Not productive. I'd prefer to concentrate on each upcoming game and hoping that UM wins them all.

Seeing Miami at 6-6 is like seeing the United States as a second-rate power.

The What

I have the same feeling. I think he kept it low key with the opportunity to decommit. If golden wants him and fights for him I like our chances.

Six

It's not over yet

Also no denying that the Crocs D is not bad at all, that's one thing Muschamp knows how to do, esp. with the type of kids the Crocs can get

8th in the nation last year in Total Defense

j.w.

Vernon Hargreaves‏@VHargreaves24

I can officially say I am committed to THE University of Florida ! #GoGators CHOMP CHOMP

Something tells me this isn't the last word we hear on young Mr. Hargreaves

herbieibis

I'd say there's always time, especially 6 months away from signing day.
I hope I never see another preseason all-ACC team, with nothing but a punter listed! That's pitiful! I know what we lost some talent and it's still pitiful!

myndraize

Does anyone know if Rashard Robinson is a lock for lsu or is there time for the coaches to bring him in?

myndraize


Manny - UM commitment Jamal Carter spent the summer training with former Canes asst. Don Soldinger. Carter is now 6-3, 215 lbs

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | July 26, 2012 at 03:32 PM

Damn! that's a "BIG BOI" for a high school safety

herbieibis

Our defensive backfield is going to be tight, after adding, Burns & Carter, not lets finish it off with either Hargreaves or Robinson. The lb's would be great if we can flip Thomas's mind, get Kearse back in the fold and pair those 2 up with Grace. We got Bryant, although recent reports have him visiting FSHOO at least 3 times recently, add Bain & Bostwick, scoop to DE's and we would be off the charts with talent.

The What

So last year FSU gets that LB to switch on national signing day, and then one of their guys tries to scare carter into not committing to the U. I have no problems being competitive for recruits and doing your best to get the best players you want. But have some f#%}*ing class when doing it.

F FSU. In the grand scheme of things you are irrelevant. Take your 2 NCs (one of which was a gift), your sucky coach who chokes without fail back to that garbage dump. You will never be The U.

We get documentaries made about us on the world wide leader of sports. To all recruits if you wanna be immortalized you come to the U. If you want another disappointing season go to FSU.

Montreal-Cane

j.w. right on

As Robinson himself finally admitted, this is a garden-variety investigation.

j.w.

Myndraize, if the NCAA can prove half of what Shapiro alleged, we'll get what Penn State got less the $60M fine.

Posted by: TonyCane | July 26, 2012 at 09:04 AM

Tony...U are WAY off base and being completely unreasonable.

That is all.

Posted by: 86Cane | July 26, 2012 at 04:35 PM

Agree with Soup on this one, Tony- Penn State set the outer limit for punishments. And their crimes/infractions are way worse than what any team who has been investigated has done. My guess continues to be something between Ohio State and USC sanctions. But no 4 year post season bans, as Robinson himself finally admitted, this is a garden-variety investigation.

Ohio_Cane

Papa Cane - Instant Reaction To Commitment! Photo of Jamal Carter & family throwing The U (thanks Peter Ariz!): http://ow.ly/i/NHwx

My guess on Coach Golden's reaction to 4-Star Safety Jamal Carter's commitment. http://ow.ly/cwNSO

^^^ So glad he picked the Pens coach Bylsma for this! LOL

86Cane

Myndraize, if the NCAA can prove half of what Shapiro alleged, we'll get what Penn State got less the $60M fine.

Posted by: TonyCane | July 26, 2012 at 09:04 AM

Tony...U are WAY off base and being completely unreasonable.

That is all.

Ohio_Cane

Video of new #UM commitment Jamal Carter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VickBme3U6w&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Felipe

Canes moved up from #35 to #33 with Carter's commitment. Lol

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | July 26, 2012 at 03:35 PM

Lol is right. Jokes. No move with Burns, almost no move with Carter.

Ohio_Cane

Papa Cane on FSWho ppl saying Coley didn't try to scare Carter and his coach:

"Did happen. Several folks witnessed it not just me. Deal with it. "

herbieibis

The sanctions haven't seem to bother So. Cal and they still have a year to go on ship reductions. It just boils down to who's doing the recruiting, the school and how much BS they can shoot that's believable. I can think of one school I mentioned yesterday, Clemson that seems to be the best at it right now, well So. Cal too!

Ohio_Cane

@Mia_Hurricanes: "Funny side note, FSU James Coley called Carter's coach and ask him why would Carter commit to Miami with all the NCAA stuff going on, Coach Green told them they weren't worried about that!"

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | July 26, 2012 at 03:48 PM


FSWHO = SCUMBAGSSS

Posted by: UpNorthCane | July 26, 2012 at 03:53 PM
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Like I just said a little bit ago, better for the sanctions to come out now so they can't recruit against us using the unknown as a scare tactic

pbcfrcane13

Somebody has to know something about whats going to happen to us. Everytime Golden talks he says that he believes the worst is behind us....recruits and players talk as they have no worries about it. No way Golden would sit there and say this without having an idea about what we are going to get....I stick with the 2 year bowl ban 5 schollies for 3 years probation for 5 years and maybe having to pay back the bowl money from 2002-2010

UpNorthCane27

FSWHO = SCUMBAGSSS

Ohio_Cane

@Mia_Hurricanes: "Funny side note, FSU James Coley called Carter's coach and ask him why would Carter commit to Miami with all the NCAA stuff going on, Coach Green told them they weren't worried about that!"

roachcane77

I think after seeing what happened to penn state and the tough talk by Emmett everyone got or is getting a little nervous. Had they waited on the PSU punishment I would have felt better cause that would have been the last word on punishments. The fact that we are up next makes me a little nervous cause you can't follow up the PSU punishment and the tough talk with a slap on the wrist. And thats what worries me about the potential punishment.

Posted by: The What | July 26, 2012 at 11:18 AM


"...you can't follow up the PSU punishment and the tough talk with a slap on the wrist. And thats what worries me about the potential punishment."

THAT RIGHT THERE is what I'm saying too...

Nice post "What."

Glad to hear we have another commit... Golden is STILL THE MAN!

Wish we knew what these sanctions will be though...

LB

Carter has some nastiness in the return game, too.

Hopefully another speedy recruit will join the fold. My second favorite of the 2013 UM prospects, in fact (Olsen as 1).

Ohio_Cane

Holy crap carter is a big dude......

Posted by: UpNorthCane | July 26, 2012 at 03:34 PM
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He's Ray Ray's size (1 inch shorter), and hasn't started his Senior year yet. Lol

Ohio_Cane

Canes moved up from #35 to #33 with Carter's commitment. Lol

UpNorthCane27

Holy crap carter is a big dude......

Ohio_Cane

Manny - UM commitment Jamal Carter spent the summer training with former Canes asst. Don Soldinger. Carter is now 6-3, 215 lbs

Ohio_Cane

Ring a bell?

Posted by: LB | July 26, 2012 at 03:22 PM
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No. What are U trying to say??

LOL ;-)

LB

I heard something on Cowherd today.

Lane Kiffin & Nick Saban both took over programs under sanctions and infamous for their work ethic. They are also renowned recruiters.

Ring a bell?

UpNorthCane27

might have to switch from Upnorth to ALMARIANOGOLDENRIVERA loll

j.w.

Great day for us! Two 4-star DGB in the same week in July. That hasn't happened in a while. :)

UpNorthCane27


If Al GOLDEN was a baseball player he would be a CLOSER................

Posted by: UpNorthCane | July 26, 2012 at 03:13 PM
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Just call him Mariano Rivera!
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You said it best Ohio AL "Mariano" Golden "Rivera".... has a ncie Miami ring to it

Ohio_Cane

If Al GOLDEN was a baseball player he would be a CLOSER................

Posted by: UpNorthCane | July 26, 2012 at 03:13 PM
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Just call him Mariano Rivera!

UpNorthCane27

If Al GOLDEN was a baseball player he would be a CLOSER................

LB

Ruh roh. QB's beware.

Bush, Davis, Finnie, Hope, Howard, Jenkins, Burns, Carter...

...and perhaps another.

pbcfrcane13

WOW this D backfield is going to be NASTY!!!

Ohio_Cane

Now it's official. Jamal Carter picks UM!

UpNorthCane27

Yesssirrrrrrr.... Like i said earlier theres a bunch of Hurricanes coming so the ACC and the whole NCAA better be ready....

Ohio_Cane

Before Carter's announcement, Duke Johnson just tweeted "Welcome to the []_[]...."

Jamal Carter is a Cane.

LB

"Hopefully.

I'm very optimistic, but always a chance he commits elsewhere. 90% Canes"

Always a chance. If he commits, good luck throwing vs. UM in 2014.

Ohio_Cane

guys abotu 15 minutes left until jamal carter chooses the U!!!

Posted by: UpNorthCane | July 26, 2012 at 02:43 PM
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Hopefully.

I'm very optimistic, but always a chance he commits elsewhere. 90% Canes

UpNorthCane27

guys abotu 15 minutes left until jamal carter chooses the U!!!

herbieibis

Ohio,
I just hope we get to that magical 6 win plateau and then everything should fall into place.

Ohio_Cane

Randy Shannon officially hired at TCU to coach LB's

Ohio_Cane

Herbie, a couple things:

1 - I agree with your guess of what our sanctions will be.

2 - I'm almost positive Golden and staff already know what the sanctions will be.

3 - Yes, it would be best if the sanctions would come out sooner rather than later. Once they're out, other schools will stop using it as a scare tactic to recruits.

4 - As for the bowl ban if sanctions aren't out by then? I say self-impose again. Even if they weren't going to give us another bowl ban (2 years), maybe that would help with reducing another part of the sanctions (probation years, schollies lost, etc)?

herbieibis

Fellas Fellas relax, We all know the NCAA hates us. We won't get the sledge hammer, just the ball-peen kind. 5 ships lost per year for 3 years, five that we should go ahead and cough up this year, plus maybe one more year of a bowl ban. We would of been good but these latest allegations, will probably get us another year. What stinks though, lets just say we crawl to 6-6 and we are bowl eligible? What do we do? I defenitely don't want to be hit with another bowl ban in 2013, when we should be pretty loaded. What really stinks, is those Azz holes won't probably rule on us until February. I hope we have some inside info, that will help us make a decision sooner rather than later. The ACC is so mediocre, aside from a few teams, we could back in to 5 wins in this conference

elliott

People on here need to chill duke....

UM wont get hit with anything serious maybe another bowl ban and a couple of schollies but nothing that would set up back several years. In fact we will still be very good in the upcoming years and we will be able to play for a NC. As long as no one in the NFL rats....(former players) then we should be straight. No offense but Hurtt was a piss poor coach......

Old Skool

Oh What a tangled web they've weaved...

Penn State's legal battles continued Wednesday with the university's primary general liability insurer filing a motion claiming coverage should be denied because the administration failed to disclose what it knew about former coach Jerry Sandusky's behavior, according to legal document

LB

"F*** Hurtt, Stoutland, Shapiro, and Robinson

F*** FSWHOO, UF, and everyone but our U

F*** whoever wants to see our U fail...."


YES! YES! YES! Someone who understands. The U transcends all.

Hail the Tie!

LB

"Wasn't it WVU fans that tried to overturn an ambulance when one of our players got hurt and couldn't leave right away a few years back??"

That was one reported incident, yes. There are more. Many, many more.

" I can just hear LB singing that Dennis Leary song in his car on the way to work. :)"

I'll sing all week! How about this...

...if we beat FSU, I'll sing a vulgar, anti-Nole song and send the MP3 to the CEO. I'll even sing it in a serious voice. Just remind me, and I'll happily do it.

Oh, and if anyone has any FSU toilet paper, email me.

Ohio_Cane

FYI - Twitter is down.

Were the Mayans right?!?! LOL

Ohio_Cane

For those who care: Canes were ranked #35 for recruiting on Rivals before 4* Artie Burns committed. Right now? We're #35.

LOL

Let's see if we move up after Jamal Carter commits. That'll be 2 4-stars in 1 week.

raizecane

UW offers a scholly to a 14 year old -

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8200394/quarterback-tate-martell-14-commits-washington-huskies

raizecane

Wasn't it WVU fans that tried to overturn an ambulance when one of our players got hurt and couldn't leave right away a few years back??

raizecane

Canes all day is not 12-0 then we will go 11-1 :-)

Posted by: UpNorthCane | July 26, 2012 at 10:06 AM

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UP - I love your enthusiasm but if I were your employer, I would seriously have you tested for drugs…..LOL. :-)

Ohio_Cane

S Jamal Carter makes his decision in 2 1/2 hours. Expect Canes.

j.w.

I can just hear LB singing that Dennis Leary song in his car on the way to work. :)

UpNorthCane27

This is how i feel....

F*** the NCAA and w.e penalties they give us

F*** Hurtt, Stoutland, Shapiro, and Robinson

F*** FSWHOO, UF, and everyone but our U

F*** whoever wants to see our U fail....


Sorry soup for all the F*** im just sick abotu all this i just want the boys to go out their and kill it on the football field, starting with the BC eagles.


LB

"Separate the school from the fans. The football team beat Sam Bradford. As for the fans, I present Exhibits A: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP0Xod-L1Yw

B: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkSpigeBZu8

C: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CDNqRm3zbo"

And my personal favorite, D. Watch as a coach stops the game and relays elementary school level behavior. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKWb3qDWUlA

"I don't like any opponent of Miami, and for a long time, that was WVU."

WVU fans think the same way. I guess those five titles sting.

Honestly, Hawaii... the primary reason I can't stand the WVU fans is the language.
The racial slurs are offensive even for Klan levels. It's awful, extreme, and it is continual. It's also uncomfortably paradoxical since most of the players are African-American.

That's what I get emotional about. People who have problems with skin color make me hostile. It's one of the first two of three statements from WVU fans about Miami, and it's wrong. I'm not dignifying that crap by repeating it.

Anyone who stepped through the state knows exactly what I'm talking about.

The What

Wasnt Alonzo looking into bringing a lawsuit against the NCAA if they try to hammer us? I wonder if his recent comments have to do with that.

Posted by: 3G Cane | July 26, 2012 at 10:59 AM

I think after seeing what happened to penn state and the tough talk by Emmett everyone got or is getting a little nervous. Had they waited on the PSU punishment I would have felt better cause that would have been the last word on punishments. The fact that we are up next makes me a little nervous cause you can't follow up the PSU punishment and the tough talk with a slap on the wrist. And thats what worries me about the potential punishment.

LB

Robinson is a joke of a journalist. Scatterbrained structure, lack of context, wrong dates, sullied phantom sources, and a mountain of outright incorrect facts. A mess.

Immunity for information, I suppose. It bites.

LB

"You are right about many things, however the only time you ever mention WVU is taking a pot-shot at them. so that may say something about you as well."

I like Geno Smith (Miramar). I like the fact that they're not playing Rutgers and UConn anymore, and upgraded to Oklahoma and Texas. Psychoanalyze me as you wish. That's your call. Again, I'm not taking it personally. I'm a big boy.

Separate the school from the fans. The football team beat Sam Bradford. As for the fans, I present Exhibits A: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP0Xod-L1Yw

B: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkSpigeBZu8

C: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CDNqRm3zbo

3G Cane

Wasnt Alonzo looking into bringing a lawsuit against the NCAA if they try to hammer us? I wonder if his recent comments have to do with that.

Ohio_Cane

Hawaii, no offense, but I see what LB is saying.

I don't like any opponent of Miami, and for a long time, that was WVU. I don't like WVU.

I live about an hour from there, been there a bunch of times due to close friends going to school there. Actually had some great weekends there partying, and hell, that's where my wife got her master's degree. So my dislike for them has nothing to do with it being a good school, etc. It's just how I feel.

3G Cane

What I don't get is, the NCAA is talking to the perpetrators. Hill , hurtt and stoutland committed the "crimes" they're investigating. It's like investigating a murder and interviewing the murderer and asking him about the bystander that may have witnessed the murder.
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THIS! I hope those scumbags arent being given immunity when they were the ones directly involved with the rat and responsible for the the infractions! That would make no sense and would mean the only thing the NCAA cares about is taking us down. If you take into account the fact they are trying to get more cooperation from former players it must mean that much of what Chuckles Robinson vommited out last year is very hard to prove. Hopefully there arent anymore T Moss's out there.

HawaiiCane

Glad to know your an a-hole! Thanks for clearing that up.

You are right about many things, however the only time you ever mention WVU is taking a pot-shot at them. so that may say something about you as well.

Miami also only took on their challenges head-to-head. Alonzo Highsmith got in someone's face just like 4-Real does. Not a little extra sentence tag on.

Ohio_Cane

I like LB more and more with every post. Lol

The What

I still don't think we are gonna get hammered though. Another bowl ban and 7 lost scholarships per year for 3 years. 5 year probation and probably have to have some monitor to ensure we are doing things the right way. NCAA doesnt want an appeal that goes to the courts. They already killed one program and will punish us as well but nothing close to penn state. That program will be dead for the next 10 years.

3G Cane

Email to claim your prize at: canespace86@aol.com

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LB

"Canes all day is not 12-0 then we will go 11-1 :-)"

I told my wife in 2009 that if we go 1-11 and the 1 is vs. FSU... it's a good year.

If we beat FSU, I'll be the happiest mamma jamma on the Space. I'll sing it.

LB

"LB...

why the hell do you keep choosing attack my alma mater!

Not once has West Virginia been important to any of the above listed conversations and I now feel as though these are just personal attacks.

I have bled orange and green since my first game on Sept 15, 1981. Probably before you were ever a fan. I have been to everything from 3 National Championships to walking out of Doak Campbell dejected after a 47-0 loss.

I'm sorry to everyone else for this, but simply put...

LB, you are acting like an a-hole!"

Nothing personal about it. I live in WV, and interact with the fanbase everyday. It's friendly, mostly. I call them overrated & delusional, they call me a lover of thugs and a traitor. It's a cyclical love/hate relationship. I judge schools greatly on how their fans react.

Keep in mind that WVU is nowhere near the evil that FSU embodies.

Weird, I never liked WVU in the first place... so how am I a traitor?

True to your date being a fan. I was a wee, wee little thing on that date, and hadn't yet seen Sebastian in all his glory.

True again to me being an a-hole, and you shouldn't have to apologize to anyone for being honest... just like I'm an honest a-hole.

Don't be sorry for telling the truth. I am an a-hole. I don't mind. Truthtellers are often ridiculed, though this isn't even close to ridicule.

But I deal with tangible things. It wasn't an attack. It's fact. And it wasn't directed at your university (which have excellent schools of sociology & dentistry), it is the fanbase.

We lay into FSU, Florida, Notre Dame, and every other university which isn't the U here. USC, Ohio State, LSU, Alabama, and the FSU stooges are subject to venom at any time. Those are the rules.

A wise man once said that UM's dominance came from its enormous chip on its shoulder and its loathing of all programs.

I'm certain Ohio Cane gets his share of flack from the loonies near him. No big whup.

Thus, HawaiiCane (I love your state, by the way), I proudly concede all of your points save two.

1. It's not personal. It's fact.

2. I'm not acting like an a-hole. I am one.

The What

What I don't get is, the NCAA is talking to the perpetrators. Hill , hurtt and stoutland committed the "crimes" they're investigating. It's like investigating a murder and interviewing the murderer and asking him about the bystander that may have witnessed the murder. Oh wait this is the NCAA so no on is ever guilty except for the students. A coach can literally hand a kid thousands of dollars and provide them "campus escorts" (whores) and no one is guilty but that 18 year old kid.

F#%# you NCAA.

HawaiiCane

LB...

why the hell do you keep choosing attack my alma mater!

Not once has West Virginia been important to any of the above listed conversations and I now feel as though these are just personal attacks.

I have bled orange and green since my first game on Sept 15, 1981. Probably before you were ever a fan. I have been to everything from 3 National Championships to walking out of Doak Campbell dejected after a 47-0 loss.

I'm sorry to everyone else for this, but simply put...

LB, you are acting like an a-hole!

UpNorthCane27

if**

UpNorthCane27

I predict a win against FSWHOO..... i dont believe they're better then us and i dont believe they have a better coach then us.....

Canes all day is not 12-0 then we will go 11-1 :-)

roachcane77

"The NCAA has renewed efforts to try to get former UM players to corroborate Nevin Shapiro’s claims and has asked UM for help in contacting them."

I'm seriously concerned about this thing now... for months I thought we'd get some leniency for our cooperation, and we'd get through this mess with serious, but not "program busting" sanctions.

Most recently though, I feel like the NCAA is positioning themselves to splat us with a HUGE sledgehammer... making us the "example" of their new tough stance... piggybacking on the PSU punishments.

The NCAA is giving WAY too much credence to slimeballs like Robinson, Hill, Hurtt, & especially Shapiro. The fact that they are STILL rehashing the same material and now trying to get further corroboration from former players and coaches only adds to my feelings of impending doom.

Not good... not good at all... Al Golden is the MAN for this job, bit even HE won't be able to overcome anything even approaching PSU levels of sanctions.

LB

"LB...the goal should always be the National Championship, no matter the perceived talent level. You should go into every game fighting to win, and if you can accomplish that goal each week, then the ultimate goal is accomplished as well."

That's more than obvious. It's inferred by everyone associated with the program. But it's not happening this year, for reasons public and private. I've already went into great detail about the deficiencies of this team. Since I'm not going to rehash negative crap, I'll leave it.

This is a team on the rise. This is a better team than last year, and I'm completely happy with that. I'm a realist, and common sense says that Golden's Canes will be there sooner rather than later.

Being honest also dictates for you to compare the depth charts of 2000-2003 to 2009-2012. I have them on hand. It's not close.

We have an excellent coaching staff. Some of my concerns have been addressed privately, and it makes me very happy. I absolutely believe that the 2012 team is going to shock people with the number of wins. I also believe that this the most defensively talented team since at least 2005, even with the loss of Armstrong. These are really good things.

But don't be that person. Don't be that fan who predicts 12-0 every year when a quick glance at the schedule shall tell you otherwise.

Leave that to West Virginia fans.

orange 'n green in the vein

Hill is from SoFla, Stoutland doesn't care anymore now that he moved up to 'Bama, but Hurtt should have known better than to try and deep six his alma matter. Of course, "knowing better," and Clint Hurtt haven't gone hand in hand at anytime his age would have suggested they should, so why start now, right? Probably pissed he sucked at college football and never made the NFL.

pbcfrcane13

Of course those three didnt help....one Im sure the NCAA told them speak up or we will after you and two if you dont speak up you will never coach again. WTH does Hurtt HIll and stoutland care about UM anymore and further more there schools benefit if UM gets hit hard with scholarships lost more players for there teams that recruit like crazy down here. NCAA is so dumb.....even if that stuff the Rat said isnt true those three coaches benefit by just agreeing with it. NCAA is not going to punish them if they tell the truth....the NCAA is gutless and only goes after schools not the people who caused the issues.

TonyCane

Myndraize, if the NCAA can prove half of what Shapiro alleged, we'll get what Penn State got less the $60M fine.

TonyCane

LB...the goal should always be the National Championship, no matter the perceived talent level. You should go into every game fighting to win, and if you can accomplish that goal each week, then the ultimate goal is accomplished as well.

Myndraize, I suspect that however many bowl bans we self-impose, the NCAA will add at least one more year.

UMike

### The NCAA has renewed efforts to try to get former UM players to corroborate Nevin Shapiro’s claims and has asked UM for help in contacting them.

Quick..someone kidnap Tyrone Moss lol

myndraize

Should the U decide to take another self-imposed bowl ban that would be 2 straight,considering miami is a private school would they add more years to that? I can't imagine miami's punishment being worst than SC or OSU who truely had a loss of institutional control.

86Cane

FWIW: I am told that Hurtt, Hill and Stoutland did not do UM any favors.

TJL

### The NCAA has renewed efforts to try to get former UM players to corroborate Nevin Shapiro’s claims and has asked UM for help in contacting them.

And if they won't "corroborate", then what...

Posted by: CaneRock | July 25, 2012 at 11:14 PM

They have nothing in many of the allegations so they need some players to come forward and backup the rats allegations

LB

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I think the top goals for this year should be:

1. National Championship
2. If that quest fails, qualify for a bowl so that we can decline, thereby nullifying an NCAA bowl ban (hopefully).
3. Develop young talent, play freshmen, and get experience to make the big leap next year.
4. Embarass Va Tech and FSU.
5. Continue to build that wall around South Florida, and prevent Gator recruiters from trying to dig beneath it."

1. Lay off the hallucinogens.
2. 6 wins is the floor. That doesn't change. End of season schedule alone should make up for half of that.
3. It's already starting. Deon Bush!
4. I don't see us embarassing either one of those two. However, I strongly believe we can beat Tech.
5. That's already happened. See 2012 class.

canezilla

I think the top goals for this year should be:

1. National Championship

CHILD PLEASE!!!

Old Skool

Looks like there was some negotiation on the Penn State sanctions. Apparently the school was facing 4 years without football.

Montreal-Cane

In 37 days at BC

TonyCane

I think the top goals for this year should be:

1. National Championship
2. If that quest fails, qualify for a bowl so that we can decline, thereby nullifying an NCAA bowl ban (hopefully).
3. Develop young talent, play freshmen, and get experience to make the big leap next year.
4. Embarass Va Tech and FSU.
5. Continue to build that wall around South Florida, and prevent Gator recruiters from trying to dig beneath it.

The What

In two years we will be a top 10 team. The defense is going to be Great and with Olsen at qb the offense will be humming. I think by 2014 we will have a championship caliber team. Even with the sanctions we will still be on that pace. Miami is like USC, they can quickly rebuild and we have a solid coaching staff and great recruiters. Our trajectoy is rising.

TonyCane

What will it take to get back to that level?

Two - three years with Golden at the helm, mimimal to no sanctions, and no further NCAA shenanigans.

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