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July 25, 2012

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UMike

### The NCAA has renewed efforts to try to get former UM players to corroborate Nevin Shapiro’s claims and has asked UM for help in contacting them.

Quick..someone kidnap Tyrone Moss lol

TonyCane

LB...the goal should always be the National Championship, no matter the perceived talent level. You should go into every game fighting to win, and if you can accomplish that goal each week, then the ultimate goal is accomplished as well.

Myndraize, I suspect that however many bowl bans we self-impose, the NCAA will add at least one more year.

TonyCane

Myndraize, if the NCAA can prove half of what Shapiro alleged, we'll get what Penn State got less the $60M fine.

pbcfrcane13

Of course those three didnt help....one Im sure the NCAA told them speak up or we will after you and two if you dont speak up you will never coach again. WTH does Hurtt HIll and stoutland care about UM anymore and further more there schools benefit if UM gets hit hard with scholarships lost more players for there teams that recruit like crazy down here. NCAA is so dumb.....even if that stuff the Rat said isnt true those three coaches benefit by just agreeing with it. NCAA is not going to punish them if they tell the truth....the NCAA is gutless and only goes after schools not the people who caused the issues.

orange 'n green in the vein

Hill is from SoFla, Stoutland doesn't care anymore now that he moved up to 'Bama, but Hurtt should have known better than to try and deep six his alma matter. Of course, "knowing better," and Clint Hurtt haven't gone hand in hand at anytime his age would have suggested they should, so why start now, right? Probably pissed he sucked at college football and never made the NFL.

LB

"LB...the goal should always be the National Championship, no matter the perceived talent level. You should go into every game fighting to win, and if you can accomplish that goal each week, then the ultimate goal is accomplished as well."

That's more than obvious. It's inferred by everyone associated with the program. But it's not happening this year, for reasons public and private. I've already went into great detail about the deficiencies of this team. Since I'm not going to rehash negative crap, I'll leave it.

This is a team on the rise. This is a better team than last year, and I'm completely happy with that. I'm a realist, and common sense says that Golden's Canes will be there sooner rather than later.

Being honest also dictates for you to compare the depth charts of 2000-2003 to 2009-2012. I have them on hand. It's not close.

We have an excellent coaching staff. Some of my concerns have been addressed privately, and it makes me very happy. I absolutely believe that the 2012 team is going to shock people with the number of wins. I also believe that this the most defensively talented team since at least 2005, even with the loss of Armstrong. These are really good things.

But don't be that person. Don't be that fan who predicts 12-0 every year when a quick glance at the schedule shall tell you otherwise.

Leave that to West Virginia fans.

roachcane77

"The NCAA has renewed efforts to try to get former UM players to corroborate Nevin Shapiro’s claims and has asked UM for help in contacting them."

I'm seriously concerned about this thing now... for months I thought we'd get some leniency for our cooperation, and we'd get through this mess with serious, but not "program busting" sanctions.

Most recently though, I feel like the NCAA is positioning themselves to splat us with a HUGE sledgehammer... making us the "example" of their new tough stance... piggybacking on the PSU punishments.

The NCAA is giving WAY too much credence to slimeballs like Robinson, Hill, Hurtt, & especially Shapiro. The fact that they are STILL rehashing the same material and now trying to get further corroboration from former players and coaches only adds to my feelings of impending doom.

Not good... not good at all... Al Golden is the MAN for this job, bit even HE won't be able to overcome anything even approaching PSU levels of sanctions.

UpNorthCane27

I predict a win against FSWHOO..... i dont believe they're better then us and i dont believe they have a better coach then us.....

Canes all day is not 12-0 then we will go 11-1 :-)

UpNorthCane27

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HawaiiCane

LB...

why the hell do you keep choosing attack my alma mater!

Not once has West Virginia been important to any of the above listed conversations and I now feel as though these are just personal attacks.

I have bled orange and green since my first game on Sept 15, 1981. Probably before you were ever a fan. I have been to everything from 3 National Championships to walking out of Doak Campbell dejected after a 47-0 loss.

I'm sorry to everyone else for this, but simply put...

LB, you are acting like an a-hole!

The What

What I don't get is, the NCAA is talking to the perpetrators. Hill , hurtt and stoutland committed the "crimes" they're investigating. It's like investigating a murder and interviewing the murderer and asking him about the bystander that may have witnessed the murder. Oh wait this is the NCAA so no on is ever guilty except for the students. A coach can literally hand a kid thousands of dollars and provide them "campus escorts" (whores) and no one is guilty but that 18 year old kid.

F#%# you NCAA.

LB

"LB...

why the hell do you keep choosing attack my alma mater!

Not once has West Virginia been important to any of the above listed conversations and I now feel as though these are just personal attacks.

I have bled orange and green since my first game on Sept 15, 1981. Probably before you were ever a fan. I have been to everything from 3 National Championships to walking out of Doak Campbell dejected after a 47-0 loss.

I'm sorry to everyone else for this, but simply put...

LB, you are acting like an a-hole!"

Nothing personal about it. I live in WV, and interact with the fanbase everyday. It's friendly, mostly. I call them overrated & delusional, they call me a lover of thugs and a traitor. It's a cyclical love/hate relationship. I judge schools greatly on how their fans react.

Keep in mind that WVU is nowhere near the evil that FSU embodies.

Weird, I never liked WVU in the first place... so how am I a traitor?

True to your date being a fan. I was a wee, wee little thing on that date, and hadn't yet seen Sebastian in all his glory.

True again to me being an a-hole, and you shouldn't have to apologize to anyone for being honest... just like I'm an honest a-hole.

Don't be sorry for telling the truth. I am an a-hole. I don't mind. Truthtellers are often ridiculed, though this isn't even close to ridicule.

But I deal with tangible things. It wasn't an attack. It's fact. And it wasn't directed at your university (which have excellent schools of sociology & dentistry), it is the fanbase.

We lay into FSU, Florida, Notre Dame, and every other university which isn't the U here. USC, Ohio State, LSU, Alabama, and the FSU stooges are subject to venom at any time. Those are the rules.

A wise man once said that UM's dominance came from its enormous chip on its shoulder and its loathing of all programs.

I'm certain Ohio Cane gets his share of flack from the loonies near him. No big whup.

Thus, HawaiiCane (I love your state, by the way), I proudly concede all of your points save two.

1. It's not personal. It's fact.

2. I'm not acting like an a-hole. I am one.

LB

"Canes all day is not 12-0 then we will go 11-1 :-)"

I told my wife in 2009 that if we go 1-11 and the 1 is vs. FSU... it's a good year.

If we beat FSU, I'll be the happiest mamma jamma on the Space. I'll sing it.

3G Cane

Email to claim your prize at: canespace86@aol.com

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The What

I still don't think we are gonna get hammered though. Another bowl ban and 7 lost scholarships per year for 3 years. 5 year probation and probably have to have some monitor to ensure we are doing things the right way. NCAA doesnt want an appeal that goes to the courts. They already killed one program and will punish us as well but nothing close to penn state. That program will be dead for the next 10 years.

Ohio_Cane

I like LB more and more with every post. Lol

HawaiiCane

Glad to know your an a-hole! Thanks for clearing that up.

You are right about many things, however the only time you ever mention WVU is taking a pot-shot at them. so that may say something about you as well.

Miami also only took on their challenges head-to-head. Alonzo Highsmith got in someone's face just like 4-Real does. Not a little extra sentence tag on.

3G Cane

What I don't get is, the NCAA is talking to the perpetrators. Hill , hurtt and stoutland committed the "crimes" they're investigating. It's like investigating a murder and interviewing the murderer and asking him about the bystander that may have witnessed the murder.
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THIS! I hope those scumbags arent being given immunity when they were the ones directly involved with the rat and responsible for the the infractions! That would make no sense and would mean the only thing the NCAA cares about is taking us down. If you take into account the fact they are trying to get more cooperation from former players it must mean that much of what Chuckles Robinson vommited out last year is very hard to prove. Hopefully there arent anymore T Moss's out there.

Ohio_Cane

Hawaii, no offense, but I see what LB is saying.

I don't like any opponent of Miami, and for a long time, that was WVU. I don't like WVU.

I live about an hour from there, been there a bunch of times due to close friends going to school there. Actually had some great weekends there partying, and hell, that's where my wife got her master's degree. So my dislike for them has nothing to do with it being a good school, etc. It's just how I feel.

3G Cane

Wasnt Alonzo looking into bringing a lawsuit against the NCAA if they try to hammer us? I wonder if his recent comments have to do with that.

LB

"You are right about many things, however the only time you ever mention WVU is taking a pot-shot at them. so that may say something about you as well."

I like Geno Smith (Miramar). I like the fact that they're not playing Rutgers and UConn anymore, and upgraded to Oklahoma and Texas. Psychoanalyze me as you wish. That's your call. Again, I'm not taking it personally. I'm a big boy.

Separate the school from the fans. The football team beat Sam Bradford. As for the fans, I present Exhibits A: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP0Xod-L1Yw

B: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkSpigeBZu8

C: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CDNqRm3zbo

LB

Robinson is a joke of a journalist. Scatterbrained structure, lack of context, wrong dates, sullied phantom sources, and a mountain of outright incorrect facts. A mess.

Immunity for information, I suppose. It bites.

The What

Wasnt Alonzo looking into bringing a lawsuit against the NCAA if they try to hammer us? I wonder if his recent comments have to do with that.

Posted by: 3G Cane | July 26, 2012 at 10:59 AM

I think after seeing what happened to penn state and the tough talk by Emmett everyone got or is getting a little nervous. Had they waited on the PSU punishment I would have felt better cause that would have been the last word on punishments. The fact that we are up next makes me a little nervous cause you can't follow up the PSU punishment and the tough talk with a slap on the wrist. And thats what worries me about the potential punishment.

LB

"Separate the school from the fans. The football team beat Sam Bradford. As for the fans, I present Exhibits A: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP0Xod-L1Yw

B: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkSpigeBZu8

C: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CDNqRm3zbo"

And my personal favorite, D. Watch as a coach stops the game and relays elementary school level behavior. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKWb3qDWUlA

"I don't like any opponent of Miami, and for a long time, that was WVU."

WVU fans think the same way. I guess those five titles sting.

Honestly, Hawaii... the primary reason I can't stand the WVU fans is the language.
The racial slurs are offensive even for Klan levels. It's awful, extreme, and it is continual. It's also uncomfortably paradoxical since most of the players are African-American.

That's what I get emotional about. People who have problems with skin color make me hostile. It's one of the first two of three statements from WVU fans about Miami, and it's wrong. I'm not dignifying that crap by repeating it.

Anyone who stepped through the state knows exactly what I'm talking about.

UpNorthCane27

This is how i feel....

F*** the NCAA and w.e penalties they give us

F*** Hurtt, Stoutland, Shapiro, and Robinson

F*** FSWHOO, UF, and everyone but our U

F*** whoever wants to see our U fail....


Sorry soup for all the F*** im just sick abotu all this i just want the boys to go out their and kill it on the football field, starting with the BC eagles.


j.w.

I can just hear LB singing that Dennis Leary song in his car on the way to work. :)

Ohio_Cane

S Jamal Carter makes his decision in 2 1/2 hours. Expect Canes.

raizecane

Canes all day is not 12-0 then we will go 11-1 :-)

Posted by: UpNorthCane | July 26, 2012 at 10:06 AM

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UP - I love your enthusiasm but if I were your employer, I would seriously have you tested for drugs…..LOL. :-)

raizecane

Wasn't it WVU fans that tried to overturn an ambulance when one of our players got hurt and couldn't leave right away a few years back??

raizecane

UW offers a scholly to a 14 year old -

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8200394/quarterback-tate-martell-14-commits-washington-huskies

Ohio_Cane

For those who care: Canes were ranked #35 for recruiting on Rivals before 4* Artie Burns committed. Right now? We're #35.

LOL

Let's see if we move up after Jamal Carter commits. That'll be 2 4-stars in 1 week.

Ohio_Cane

FYI - Twitter is down.

Were the Mayans right?!?! LOL

LB

"Wasn't it WVU fans that tried to overturn an ambulance when one of our players got hurt and couldn't leave right away a few years back??"

That was one reported incident, yes. There are more. Many, many more.

" I can just hear LB singing that Dennis Leary song in his car on the way to work. :)"

I'll sing all week! How about this...

...if we beat FSU, I'll sing a vulgar, anti-Nole song and send the MP3 to the CEO. I'll even sing it in a serious voice. Just remind me, and I'll happily do it.

Oh, and if anyone has any FSU toilet paper, email me.

LB

"F*** Hurtt, Stoutland, Shapiro, and Robinson

F*** FSWHOO, UF, and everyone but our U

F*** whoever wants to see our U fail...."


YES! YES! YES! Someone who understands. The U transcends all.

Hail the Tie!

Old Skool

Oh What a tangled web they've weaved...

Penn State's legal battles continued Wednesday with the university's primary general liability insurer filing a motion claiming coverage should be denied because the administration failed to disclose what it knew about former coach Jerry Sandusky's behavior, according to legal document

elliott

People on here need to chill duke....

UM wont get hit with anything serious maybe another bowl ban and a couple of schollies but nothing that would set up back several years. In fact we will still be very good in the upcoming years and we will be able to play for a NC. As long as no one in the NFL rats....(former players) then we should be straight. No offense but Hurtt was a piss poor coach......

herbieibis

Fellas Fellas relax, We all know the NCAA hates us. We won't get the sledge hammer, just the ball-peen kind. 5 ships lost per year for 3 years, five that we should go ahead and cough up this year, plus maybe one more year of a bowl ban. We would of been good but these latest allegations, will probably get us another year. What stinks though, lets just say we crawl to 6-6 and we are bowl eligible? What do we do? I defenitely don't want to be hit with another bowl ban in 2013, when we should be pretty loaded. What really stinks, is those Azz holes won't probably rule on us until February. I hope we have some inside info, that will help us make a decision sooner rather than later. The ACC is so mediocre, aside from a few teams, we could back in to 5 wins in this conference

Ohio_Cane

Herbie, a couple things:

1 - I agree with your guess of what our sanctions will be.

2 - I'm almost positive Golden and staff already know what the sanctions will be.

3 - Yes, it would be best if the sanctions would come out sooner rather than later. Once they're out, other schools will stop using it as a scare tactic to recruits.

4 - As for the bowl ban if sanctions aren't out by then? I say self-impose again. Even if they weren't going to give us another bowl ban (2 years), maybe that would help with reducing another part of the sanctions (probation years, schollies lost, etc)?

Ohio_Cane

Randy Shannon officially hired at TCU to coach LB's

herbieibis

Ohio,
I just hope we get to that magical 6 win plateau and then everything should fall into place.

UpNorthCane27

guys abotu 15 minutes left until jamal carter chooses the U!!!

Ohio_Cane

guys abotu 15 minutes left until jamal carter chooses the U!!!

Posted by: UpNorthCane | July 26, 2012 at 02:43 PM
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Hopefully.

I'm very optimistic, but always a chance he commits elsewhere. 90% Canes

LB

"Hopefully.

I'm very optimistic, but always a chance he commits elsewhere. 90% Canes"

Always a chance. If he commits, good luck throwing vs. UM in 2014.

Ohio_Cane

Before Carter's announcement, Duke Johnson just tweeted "Welcome to the []_[]...."

Jamal Carter is a Cane.

UpNorthCane27

Yesssirrrrrrr.... Like i said earlier theres a bunch of Hurricanes coming so the ACC and the whole NCAA better be ready....

Ohio_Cane

Now it's official. Jamal Carter picks UM!

pbcfrcane13

WOW this D backfield is going to be NASTY!!!

LB

Ruh roh. QB's beware.

Bush, Davis, Finnie, Hope, Howard, Jenkins, Burns, Carter...

...and perhaps another.

UpNorthCane27

If Al GOLDEN was a baseball player he would be a CLOSER................

Ohio_Cane

If Al GOLDEN was a baseball player he would be a CLOSER................

Posted by: UpNorthCane | July 26, 2012 at 03:13 PM
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Just call him Mariano Rivera!

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